# tblYgr_LSDJ

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LOL ;-)
<br\>Nope.
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<br\>Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:58 PM
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RE: [LSDj!] Re: Flash 2 Advanced experience

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> Subject: Re: [LSDj!] Re: Flash 2 Advanced experience
<br\>
<br\>Has anyone tried GBonGBA? (http://mapage.noos.fr/gbongba/)
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Hi
<br\>
<br\>A gameboy article, with some of the list members, on MSNBC;
<br\>
<br\>http://www.msnbc.com/news/972272.asp?cp1=1
<br\>
<br\>/F
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I have attempted GBonGBA to see if this is a route to avoid GB
<br\>bridge. The speed is not there yet on this program. timing music is
<br\>out of the question so far.
<br\>
<br\>Also, there is another emulator called PocketGBtoGBA (PocketGB),
<br\>this one does have the speed & timing, but takes a huge amount of
<br\>tweeking to get it. I found that running LSDj caused alot of garbage
<br\>readouts on various screens. I don't feel this is a solution yet
<br\>either, but it may be in the near future. I hope JustBurn keeps
<br\>working on this program.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "David Goth" <xaos@k...> wrote:
<br\>> > Subject: Re: [LSDj!] Re: Flash 2 Advanced experience
<br\>>
<br\>> Has anyone tried GBonGBA? (http://mapage.noos.fr/gbongba/)
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<br\>
I'd like to hear more about this process as I'm considering
<br\>purchasing the GBbridge for this. Do you need to use the bridge both
<br\>while writin to the cart, and playing the cart?
<br\>
<br\>Does the multi-menu work this way? or are you limited to one GB
<br\>program on each GBA flash cart?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I'm using flash extreme with other GBA homebrew, and would like to
<br\>eventually use this cart for LSDj.
<br\>
<br\>-William
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "toemmes76" <firestarter@s...> wrote:
<br\>> Hey Guys,
<br\>>
<br\>> just got a GBA very cheap so i could test the Flash 2 Advanced Card
<br\>a
<br\>> bit more. ( With the 64M cardridge ( F2A USB )
<br\>> In general i have to say that it's not working well with a Gameboy
<br\>> Color or Classic and the (needed) Gameboy Bridge. Every Rom ( Games
<br\>> or LSDJ ) is buggy with it. They got wrong sprites and crashes
<br\>> completely! But with a GBA they work all well including LSDJ. The
<br\>> write save and Backup save thing is a bit weird and might not work
<br\>> well. It is no Problem at all to write a .sav file into the
<br\>Cardridge
<br\>> and then it is also working well!! But when i backup a sav from the
<br\>> cardridge, it seem not to work/ the sav file seem to be unusable.
<br\>> So, with only the F2A and GBA you can put LSDJ in it, load it with
<br\>> sav and play. But not backup. ( Maybe i did just something wrong )
<br\>> But i used the F2A cardrdge with the megamemorycard to try out the
<br\>> whole backup thing. And this is working very well!! You can load
<br\>and
<br\>> save from it without a probem! ( Also with the Gameboy Color for
<br\>some
<br\>> reason ). So with some tricks you can make it work with the GBA
<br\>with
<br\>> all features.
<br\>> The drivers for the USB are also somehow buggy. I always have to
<br\>> reload the drivers before it works. But if once reloaded it's
<br\>working
<br\>> very well!
<br\>> Something more i have to say. There is a fix for the F2A 64m
<br\>> cardridge to make it also work with the GB Color etc. But with my
<br\>> Card it is not working. I got a little different Layout on the
<br\>> Printed Circuit Board. If i compare the resistors and chips, the
<br\>fix
<br\>> seem to be done already. Or at least the same components are used
<br\>in
<br\>> it. We tested another 64m card which is compatible to the GB Bridge
<br\>> and the F2A USB-Flasher. And with this it's working well on a GB
<br\>> Color and Classic. So i guess they made a buggy 1st revision of the
<br\>> F2A and we just got one of them. So it might be possible that it
<br\>> works with newer versions of the F2A.
<br\>> In general:
<br\>> All GBA stuff / Games / LSDJ is working well.
<br\>> Everything crashes on a GBC.
<br\>>
<br\>> Does somebody got more or a different experience?
<br\>> lemme know
<br\>>
<br\>> btw. The Midi-Cable is completed. I fixed some bugs and the
<br\>betatest
<br\>> is running. I am building some hand made cables right now. If the
<br\>> test is going well, i will start to produce them!
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.firestarter-music.de
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> greetz from the firestARTer :-)
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Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] Play that funky music Gameboy

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> A gameboy article, with some of the list members, on MSNBC;
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.msnbc.com/news/972272.asp?cp1=1
<br\>
<br\>This article is even funnier and better written:
<br\>
<br\>  http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0336/sotc.php
<br\>
<br\>I wonder what makes Malcolm like it... Probably the form rather than the
<br\>content? But then, what is really the form and what is the content? Maybe in
<br\>this case, the form will turn out to be the actual product?
<br\>
<br\>Another thought: what are we really doing that no one has done before, that
<br\>makes this appear new and fresh?
<br\>
<br\>My answer to all this: it's not all really new and fresh. We are reusing DIY
<br\>ideals used in punk rock, et.c., Malcolm recognizes the form instantly and
<br\>appreciates it.
<br\>
<br\>The new thing is possibly to put consumer electronics in this context.
<br\>
<br\>Also the movement is a bit different, in combining with the practises of the
<br\>European demo scene. The inherent encouragment of cooperation, building local
<br\>groups working for a common goal, sharing efforts and information,
<br\>communications over national and political borders, etc etc... Basically these
<br\>values are the same as for punk/independent pop, but here it's a bit more
<br\>outspoken, especially the search for knowledge.
<br\>(see: the beauty of the baud, et.c.)
<br\>
<br\>Sometimes I think it's awkward merging this with the traditional music scene,
<br\>since the business is usually run very hierarchical, top-down, national rather
<br\>than local/global, not to mention focused on appearance and style over values.
<br\>
<br\>Then, of course we get a lot of style points for "fashionable 80s retro". But
<br\>who knows what happens when the style wears away? I still hope there is enough
<br\>content in this to allow some people make a living from this kind of music in a
<br\>longer run. I'd really love to see that happen. But what's just as interesting
<br\>for me is the possibility to help people have a meaningful life, building
<br\>networks and cooperate for something greater than the individual, may it be
<br\>music or whatever.
<br\>
<br\>I hope that we will see a lot of good cheap technology in the future that will
<br\>help people get more creative. The cell phone industry has a lot of potential
<br\>here, but unfortunately (and in some sense understandably) hasn't lifted a
<br\>finger to help the consumer to move out of her consumer position. So I guess
<br\>it's the same business as usual - what we want must be achieved by our own
<br\>effort...
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>PS hooray for coetzee!
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hey i'm new in the group and was wondering if anyone has an extra
<br\>LSDJ cart they want to sell i'd be more than happy to buy it from
<br\>you, thank you. email me at edixon@... if you have one.
<br\>thanks
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Does anyone know a good adress to order gb(a) backupcards?
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Hi crew..
<br\>I'm a nanoloop user that now likes to join in the LSDJ community, now.. i'm
<br\>a bit confused by all the "backup" tools around and browsing around i found
<br\>this "MPXchanger" but i can't understand if it will suit my needs or not.
<br\>Easily, i have a pair of old grey original GB's and i'd like to run LSDJ on
<br\>one...
<br\>Of course i'm talking about paying for the web rom access and get a "backup"
<br\>system...
<br\>but all it's really unclear to me, sorry.. i know, i'm a newbie here.
<br\>Can anyone explain me what i should get and how it will work?
<br\>BTW: a friend of mine is going for some days in Tokyo, if anyone have a tip
<br\>about where to send him to buy me the backup gear i'd need, it would be
<br\>extremely cool :)
<br\>Thank you all...
<br\>
<br\>.kruz
<br\>


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<br\>
Hi
<br\>
<br\>Check the "BackupGear" section at the LSDJ wiki:
<br\>
<br\>http://wiki.littlesounddj.com/
<br\>
<br\>Some info might be a bit outdated though. Nintendo, Micro$oft and $ony are
<br\>working really hard to bring the backup-business to an end, and so far they have
<br\>made pretty good progress. So, the hardest thing is to figure out what system
<br\>and reseller to choose...
<br\>
<br\>/F
<br\>
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: kruz@...
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 4:30 PM
<br\>   Subject: [LSDj!] MPXchanger ??
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Hi crew..
<br\>   I'm a nanoloop user that now likes to join in the LSDJ community, now.. i'm
<br\>   a bit confused by all the "backup" tools around and browsing around i found
<br\>   this "MPXchanger" but i can't understand if it will suit my needs or not.
<br\>   Easily, i have a pair of old grey original GB's and i'd like to run LSDJ on
<br\>   one...
<br\>   Of course i'm talking about paying for the web rom access and get a "backup"
<br\>   system...
<br\>   but all it's really unclear to me, sorry.. i know, i'm a newbie here.
<br\>   Can anyone explain me what i should get and how it will work?
<br\>   BTW: a friend of mine is going for some days in Tokyo, if anyone have a tip
<br\>   about where to send him to buy me the backup gear i'd need, it would be
<br\>   extremely cool :)
<br\>   Thank you all...
<br\>
<br\>   .kruz
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I have a spare MPXchanger, but not the appropriate cartridge for it -
<br\>does that help?  I am in the US.
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
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>
<br\>> The new thing is possibly to put consumer electronics in this
<br\>
<br\>yeah, it's a noticable thing, gameboys are fetishized, everyone wants
<br\>to know how it's done and everything. it's novel and fun, but it's a
<br\>really good idea. when punk was new it shocked, now it's a fortified
<br\>genre. DIY/single system/portable electronic music is already beyond
<br\>it's infancy, there's enough interest in this stuff and people are
<br\>only getting better at doing it . ...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Sometimes I think it's awkward merging this with the traditional
<br\>>music scene, since the business is usually run very hierarchical,
<br\>
<br\>i think it's strange being an electronic musician, period. there are
<br\>a few settings electronic musicians seem to belong ... like DJs have
<br\>a proper place in the music world, and acedemic electronic music ...
<br\>but it's kind of strange having a night were some guys bang on drum
<br\>machines and gameboys before 3 guitar/bass/drum/singer bands.
<br\>
<br\>on the other hand, things are changing, and button pushers are
<br\>getting shows and touring.
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Then, of course we get a lot of style points for "fashionable 80s
<br\>>retro". But who knows what happens when the style wears away? I
<br\>>still hope there is enough content in this to allow some people make
<br\>
<br\>hehe, everything that can be writen off as a gimmik has it's quick
<br\>little boom of interest where it's novel ... after a while people
<br\>aren't so interested and only people who really care are still doing
<br\>it ...
<br\>
<br\>i think the demo scene is headed twords better days as far as who
<br\>will be paying attention to the work. scene.org was at ars technica
<br\>(did i spell that right?), and micromusic stuff on msnbc. this list
<br\>saw a few members from that i'm sure ;D welcome!!! and please read
<br\>the wiki pages ;D
<br\>
<br\>> I hope that we will see a lot of good cheap technology in the
<br\>>future that will help people get more creative. The cell phone
<br\>>industry has a lot of potential here, but unfortunately (and in some
<br\>
<br\>again, yes, i'm sure it will be up to passionate musicians and
<br\>hackers to create tools to use these cheep technologys ... we're not
<br\>exactly a large target market ...
<br\>
<br\>the real question seems to be how willing the big companies are going
<br\>to be to let regular people develop for their platforms.
<br\>
<br\>hmm, the future ...
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yes,
<br\>I had already checked the wiki backup gear section..
<br\>but still it's all a lot unclear to me..
<br\>You said right that i'd need to choose what system to use.. right here i'm
<br\>confused! :(
<br\>What shoudl i choose? any reccomendation for the actual backup gear
<br\>situation?
<br\>Thank you again...
<br\>
<br\>.kruz
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "Fredrik Stolpe" <fredrik@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:58 PM
<br\>Subject: Re: [LSDj!] MPXchanger ??
<br\>
<br\>> Check the "BackupGear" section at the LSDJ wiki:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://wiki.littlesounddj.com/
<br\>>
<br\>> Some info might be a bit outdated though. Nintendo, Micro$oft and $ony are
<br\>working really hard to bring the backup-business to an end, and so far they
<br\>have made pretty good progress. So, the hardest thing is to figure out what
<br\>system and reseller to choose...
<br\>>
<br\>> /F
<br\>>
<br\>>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>>   From: kruz@...
<br\>>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>   Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 4:30 PM
<br\>>   Subject: [LSDj!] MPXchanger ??
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   Hi crew..
<br\>>   I'm a nanoloop user that now likes to join in the LSDJ community, now..
<br\>i'm
<br\>>   a bit confused by all the "backup" tools around and browsing around i
<br\>found
<br\>>   this "MPXchanger" but i can't understand if it will suit my needs or
<br\>not.
<br\>>   Easily, i have a pair of old grey original GB's and i'd like to run LSDJ
<br\>on
<br\>>   one...
<br\>>   Of course i'm talking about paying for the web rom access and get a
<br\>"backup"
<br\>>   system...
<br\>>   but all it's really unclear to me, sorry.. i know, i'm a newbie here.
<br\>>   Can anyone explain me what i should get and how it will work?
<br\>>   BTW: a friend of mine is going for some days in Tokyo, if anyone have a
<br\>tip
<br\>>   about where to send him to buy me the backup gear i'd need, it would be
<br\>>   extremely cool :)
<br\>>   Thank you all...
<br\>>
<br\>>   .kruz
<br\>>
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>     I have a spare MPXchanger, but not the appropriate cartridge for it -
<br\>>does that help?  I am in the US.
<br\>
<br\>Blahut - does the MPXchanger read save files off of a GB camera so you can
<br\>trun them into jpgs? I have tried the link port to parallel port and have
<br\>had no success.
<br\>
<br\>thanks and all that jazz.
<br\>
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> What shoudl i choose? any reccomendation for the
<br\>> actual backup gear
<br\>> situation?
<br\>
<br\>i don't think you want the MPXchanger. it looks like
<br\>it's just for sav files. but i don't know, i havn't
<br\>used it.
<br\>
<br\>i use the GB TRANSFERER. it looks like this product is
<br\>still in stock at:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.lan-kwei.com/gbcE/
<br\>
<br\>the GAMEJACK system looks promising but i've never
<br\>actually used it. availible:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.success-hk.com/
<br\>
<br\>i just looked at the wiki backup gear page and it
<br\>seems straight forward. maybe because i wrote too much
<br\>of it. but it makes me feel bad responding to this
<br\>type of post when the information _is_ on the wiki.
<br\>maybe you can tell us what the problem is kruz, that
<br\>kept you from being able to figure backupgear out
<br\>without making a redundent list post.
<br\>
<br\>someone doens't like hebegb either hmm.
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>
<br\>> Thank you again...
<br\>>
<br\>> .kruz
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>
> >     I have a spare MPXchanger, but not the appropriate cartridge for
<br\>it -
<br\>> >does that help?  I am in the US.
<br\>>
<br\>> Blahut - does the MPXchanger read save files off of a GB camera so you can
<br\>> trun them into jpgs? I have tried the link port to parallel port and have
<br\>> had no success.
<br\>
<br\>     I haven't tried it myself, but since it is for pulling off gamesave
<br\>files, it seems like it would work.  I have the Transferer system and that
<br\>works the same way.  You pull off the SAV file from the camera, then run it
<br\>through a program called GhostGB (or some similar name) and that turns the
<br\>picture files into GIFs - even generates an HTML picture gallery
<br\>automatically.  So perhaps the MPX is what you're looking for?
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> i just looked at the wiki backup gear page and it
<br\>> seems straight forward. maybe because i wrote too much
<br\>> of it. but it makes me feel bad responding to this
<br\>> type of post when the information _is_ on the wiki.
<br\>> maybe you can tell us what the problem is kruz, that
<br\>> kept you from being able to figure backupgear out
<br\>> without making a redundent list post.
<br\>
<br\>Hi j.ordan
<br\>i'm sorry but, yes..all is written at wiki but i miss some basics about
<br\>backup gear and gameboys, especially about the GBA vs GB cart types,
<br\>adapters, etc.. so, it was hard to figure all out just reading the kiwi
<br\>pages.. for example, i was confused when reading about the "flash two
<br\>advance" cause i now know that this is just for GBA and not for the old GB
<br\>and if the sold GB cart are no more avaiable, how could i use the flash two
<br\>advance with the GBCBridge to program my own lsdj cart to be used on my old
<br\>grey GB? this was the most confusing part... i now start to understand,
<br\>well, that's the fault of any newbie, sorry :)
<br\>
<br\>.kruz
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Guys Guys.....
<br\>I just finished a tap timer you can use to set the
<br\>tempo in the song setup screen.......JK
<br\>
<br\>Jon
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hey how about a chord command next??? JK
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>;D
<br\>
<br\>wait JK is the same as johan's initials
<br\>
<br\>or is that why it's funny?
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Grindstaff <greenfork@y...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> Guys Guys.....
<br\>> I just finished a tap timer you can use to set the
<br\>> tempo in the song setup screen.......JK
<br\>>
<br\>> Jon
<br\>


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<br\>
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<br\>meet a guy for nothing but a good time in the bedroom - no strings attached.
<br\>
<br\>come and leave me a message at my homepage if your interested, because that's
<br\>where i check all my email.
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey, i'll be having another big orgy party in about 3 weeks, and wanted to send
<br\>out another invitation to see who wants to come to this one.
<br\>
<br\>if you were at the last one, you already know how awesome it was, and you're
<br\>invited again.  it's at the same place, and there will be even more single girls
<br\>there this time! just remember...clothing isn't even an option!  ;-)
<br\>
<br\>come and RSVP at this link,
<br\>
<br\>http://www.SeductiveSingles.net/landing.asp?AFL=AYHO
<br\>
<br\>just leave me a message on my profile if you want to come, and i'll do the rest.
<br\>
<br\>See ya there!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi everyone
<br\>
<br\>colon pipe has been very busy pushing buttons on gameboys for the
<br\>entertainment of many minneapolis audiences.
<br\>
<br\>evidence of this truth is at http://gorehole.org/
<br\>
<br\>of particular note is our second loudest show +_ever_+ which was
<br\>sponsered by the state university of minnesota. there was a gameboy
<br\>camera set up projected. we played for 5 hours, everyone did great
<br\>sets, including our fledgling piper. look!
<br\>
<br\>http://gorehole.org/mpls/2003-10-10_arts_quarter/
<br\>
<br\>then today we played for the people who gave grant money, lots of
<br\>oldsters. when i was actually making music, they were aprehensive,
<br\>and no one would play with the camera projection. but when i put a
<br\>lock on and left it alone, even the oldest people interacted with the
<br\>camera/projection a bit. it was fun comming back to the set up to see
<br\>40 somethin dancing in front of the camera to the whak beat ;D no pix
<br\>yet, still on gbcam, sorry!
<br\>
<br\>that's all!
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>
<br\>OH WAIT PS! i'm visiting chicago around thanksgiving. would anyone in
<br\>that area like to 1) hang 2) set up a performance somewhere 3) play
<br\>downtown in the fucking cold?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
That makes two of us... anyone have any extra carts or know anything
<br\>about future manufacturing?
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "likeallthelights"
<br\><iloverorygilmore@h...> wrote:
<br\>> hey i'm new in the group and was wondering if anyone has an extra
<br\>> LSDJ cart they want to sell i'd be more than happy to buy it from
<br\>> you, thank you. email me at edixon@c... if you have one.
<br\>> thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hello
<br\>this show must have been a lot of fun!!!
<br\>but how the hell could you put the suff from your
<br\>gameboy camera on a projector?
<br\>please tell me how it works
<br\>thanks vil
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- starpawz612 <starpawz612@...> wrote:
<br\>> hi everyone
<br\>>
<br\>> colon pipe has been very busy pushing buttons on
<br\>> gameboys for the
<br\>> entertainment of many minneapolis audiences.
<br\>>
<br\>> evidence of this truth is at http://gorehole.org/
<br\>>
<br\>> of particular note is our second loudest show
<br\>> +_ever_+ which was
<br\>> sponsered by the state university of minnesota.
<br\>> there was a gameboy
<br\>> camera set up projected. we played for 5 hours,
<br\>> everyone did great
<br\>> sets, including our fledgling piper. look!
<br\>>
<br\>> http://gorehole.org/mpls/2003-10-10_arts_quarter/
<br\>>
<br\>> then today we played for the people who gave grant
<br\>> money, lots of
<br\>> oldsters. when i was actually making music, they
<br\>> were aprehensive,
<br\>> and no one would play with the camera projection.
<br\>> but when i put a
<br\>> lock on and left it alone, even the oldest people
<br\>> interacted with the
<br\>> camera/projection a bit. it was fun comming back to
<br\>> the set up to see
<br\>> 40 somethin dancing in front of the camera to the
<br\>> whak beat ;D no pix
<br\>> yet, still on gbcam, sorry!
<br\>>
<br\>> that's all!
<br\>>
<br\>> j.ordan
<br\>>
<br\>> OH WAIT PS! i'm visiting chicago around
<br\>> thanksgiving. would anyone in
<br\>> that area like to 1) hang 2) set up a performance
<br\>> somewhere 3) play
<br\>> downtown in the fucking cold?
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
> but how the hell could you put the suff from your
<br\>> gameboy camera on a projector?
<br\>> please tell me how it works
<br\>
<br\>Easy. SNES + Super Gameboy + gameboy camera + projector.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
actually, it was a gambeoy acvance witha  tv out adapter thingy on it,
<br\>i.e. with three rca cables for th video/audio outs.
<br\>
<br\>and i was a super fun show.
<br\>or at least loud
<br\>
<br\>>OVERTHTSRUTER
<br\>
<br\>David Goth <xaos@...> wrote:
<br\>> but how the hell could you put the suff from your
<br\>> gameboy camera on a projector?
<br\>> please tell me how it works
<br\>
<br\>Easy. SNES + Super Gameboy + gameboy camera + projector.
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>
hello there,
<br\>  i'm new in the group and was wondering if anyone has an extra
<br\>lsdj cart they want to sell.
<br\>  I'd appreciate it,
<br\>  dd
<br\>


Subject:
"8-bit Punk" Article in "Wired" this month....

SubjectSrt:
"8-bit Punk" Article in "Wired" this month....

Message:
<br\>
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.11/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Great... It looks like the 8bit gameboy scene is trying to get
<br\>hijacked by Malcom Mclaren....
<br\>
<br\>I hope most the musicians out there won't get suckered into working
<br\>with this culture vampire...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>what a freakin stroke.
<br\>
<br\>PSwimm
<br\>


Subject:
RE: [LSDj!] "8-bit Punk" Article in "Wired" this month....

Message:
<br\>
I don't know, I don't think the Game Boy scene is trying to get hijacked by
<br\>Malcolm McLaren.  Whether or not Malcolm McLaren is trying to hijack the
<br\>scene may be another issue, but so far his interest has been harmless.  He
<br\>came to the Game Boy show at The Tank with his article already underway, and
<br\>he wrote a piece that ended up being reverent and more or less on the mark.
<br\>So far his only transgression, if you can call it that, is that he portrays
<br\>the scene a little overdramatically.  I thought it was a fun piece.
<br\>
<br\>That said, beyond the basic facts of his involvement with the Sex Pistols
<br\>and Bow Wow Wow and whatnot, I don't know much about the guy.  Is he a
<br\>dangerous character?  What's the story?
<br\>
<br\>Josh
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> -----Original Message-----
<br\>> From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm [mailto:kradlabs@...]
<br\>> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:24 AM
<br\>> To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> Subject: [LSDj!] "8-bit Punk" Article in "Wired" this month....
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.11/
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Great... It looks like the 8bit gameboy scene is trying to get
<br\>> hijacked by Malcom Mclaren....
<br\>>
<br\>> I hope most the musicians out there won't get suckered into working
<br\>> with this culture vampire...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> what a freakin stroke.
<br\>>
<br\>> PSwimm
<br\>
<br\>
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Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] "8-bit Punk" Article in "Wired" this month....

Message:
<br\>
wow that really sucks
<br\>
<br\>Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm <kradlabs@...>
<br\>wrote:http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.11/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Great... It looks like the 8bit gameboy scene is trying to get
<br\>hijacked by Malcom Mclaren....
<br\>
<br\>I hope most the musicians out there won't get suckered into working
<br\>with this culture vampire...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>what a freakin stroke.
<br\>
<br\>PSwimm
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<br\>
> That said, beyond the basic facts of his involvement with the Sex Pistols
<br\>> and Bow Wow Wow and whatnot, I don't know much about the guy.  Is he a
<br\>> dangerous character?  What's the story?
<br\>
<br\>I guess he is "dangerous" in the sense that he has a lot of power that comes
<br\>from his authority and media handling skills. Also he's historically known for
<br\>taking subversive movements and turning them into mainstream pop products.
<br\>
<br\>But, judging from the article, I doubt that he sees any mainstream potential
<br\>here. If so, I would seriously think he lost ground contact.
<br\>
<br\>A little bit surprising for me is how much some people like to make this
<br\>business look much more exciting by throwing around words like "hacker" and
<br\>"reverse engineering." From my point of view, it's just normal engineering
<br\>work... Also I would like to have someone explain the term "technically" illegal
<br\>for me, and why it applies to my software, as opposed to "actually" illegal....
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>A little bit surprising for me is how much some people like to make this
<br\>>business look much more exciting by throwing around words like "hacker"
<br\>>and "reverse engineering."
<br\>
<br\>Yeah.. really lame, and the soundchip docs are all out there.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> From my point of view, it's just normal engineering work... Also I would
<br\>> like to have someone explain the term "technically" illegal for me, and
<br\>> why it applies to my software, as opposed to "actually" illegal....
<br\>
<br\>I guess "actually" illegal would mean something like you getting busted, or
<br\>sued, or something?
<br\>
<br\>(I guess "technically" might correspond to the swedish word "egentligen",
<br\>in malcoms sense, maybe?)
<br\>
<br\>/Mats
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hello... the full wired article doesnt seem to be up yet? it says 'coming soon'.
<br\>
<br\>johan: hmm the distinction between 'actually' and 'technically' is a fine one...
<br\>but lets not get too worried about that yet!
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I still have my old gameboy and have sampled it already, but I'm
<br\>anxious to get LSDJ.  The "littlesounddj" site was out of stock and
<br\>will be for months.  I put my name at the end of a long waiting
<br\>list.  Is there any other way for me to get LSDJ (now), and if not,
<br\>is there another viable way to sequence with my gameboy?
<br\>         pardon my ignorance.
<br\>                     darren king
<br\>


Subject:
Re: "8-bit Punk" Article in "Wired" this month....

Message:
<br\>
>
<br\>>
<br\>>johan: hmm the distinction between 'actually' and 'technically' is a
<br\>>fine one... but lets not get too worried about that yet!
<br\>
<br\>yeah no reason to get worried. is an anglicanism, it is meant to read
<br\>like this:
<br\>
<br\>"technically" you're breaching some laws
<br\>but
<br\>"actually" none is going to prosecute you for that...
<br\>where 'actually' stays for 'in actual facts'
<br\>
<br\>you know, laws are not really that precise, they're open to wide
<br\>interpretations which are often based on precedents.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>as for malcom mclaren...it has been decades since he did anything
<br\>remotely relevant...he's out
<br\>
<br\>v++
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ha ha, malcom mclaren? what's that old fart got to do with any of this, look out
<br\>johan he could try and turn you into the next adam ant, you technically illegal
<br\>reverse engineering hacker.
<br\>
<br\>spoony
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Johan Kotlinski
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:14 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [LSDj!] "8-bit Punk" Article in "Wired" this month....
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   > That said, beyond the basic facts of his involvement with the Sex Pistols
<br\>   > and Bow Wow Wow and whatnot, I don't know much about the guy.  Is he a
<br\>   > dangerous character?  What's the story?
<br\>
<br\>   I guess he is "dangerous" in the sense that he has a lot of power that comes
<br\>from his authority and media handling skills. Also he's historically known for
<br\>taking subversive movements and turning them into mainstream pop products.
<br\>
<br\>   But, judging from the article, I doubt that he sees any mainstream potential
<br\>here. If so, I would seriously think he lost ground contact.
<br\>
<br\>   A little bit surprising for me is how much some people like to make this
<br\>business look much more exciting by throwing around words like "hacker" and
<br\>"reverse engineering." From my point of view, it's just normal engineering
<br\>work... Also I would like to have someone explain the term "technically" illegal
<br\>for me, and why it applies to my software, as opposed to "actually" illegal....
<br\>
<br\>   Johan
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Message:
<br\>
Hi
<br\>
<br\>Buy the ROM image instead and get yourself some backup gear to transfer the ROM
<br\>to the gameboy.
<br\>
<br\>Read more about backup gear on the LSDJ wiki;
<br\>
<br\>http://wiki.littlesounddj.com
<br\>
<br\>It can be troublesome to get hold on the backup gear nowadays though... Read
<br\>older posts about this.
<br\>
<br\>/F
<br\>
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: darrensuit
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 7:05 AM
<br\>   Subject: [LSDj!] how can i get lsdj?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>     I still have my old gameboy and have sampled it already, but I'm
<br\>   anxious to get LSDJ.  The "littlesounddj" site was out of stock and
<br\>   will be for months.  I put my name at the end of a long waiting
<br\>   list.  Is there any other way for me to get LSDJ (now), and if not,
<br\>   is there another viable way to sequence with my gameboy?
<br\>           pardon my ignorance.
<br\>                       darren king
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
hi i have nanoloop 1.2 (original cardrige)
<br\>...and i want to trade it for lsdj!
<br\>
<br\>anyone interested?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>bye merijn
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Hey,
<br\>
<br\>I was wondering if anyone on this list wanted to sell their LSDJ
<br\>cartridge? E-mail me off the list if you do, and we can work
<br\>something out! Thanks a lot!
<br\>-chris
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ha ha
<br\>thats a good one.
<br\>
<br\>merijn - siebrecht <merijn-s@...> wrote:hi i have nanoloop 1.2
<br\>(original cardrige)
<br\>...and i want to trade it for lsdj!
<br\>
<br\>anyone interested?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>bye merijn
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
>A little bit surprising for me is how much some people like to make this
<br\>>business look much more exciting by throwing around words like "hacker" and
<br\>>"reverse engineering." From my point of view, it's just normal engineering
<br\>>work... Also I would like to have someone explain the term "technically"
<br\>>illegal for me, and why it applies to my software, as opposed to "actually"
<br\>>illegal....
<br\>
<br\>The word "illegal" makes things sound more underground, more rebellic, and
<br\>thus more exciting. The term "illegal" in this case probably corresponds to
<br\>"unauthorized" because Nint***o hasn't put their "Seal of Quality" on it.
<br\>But it is in no way "illegal" in the context "unlawful", because Johan isn't
<br\>selling somebody else's copyrighted software.
<br\>
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Subject:
Hey, it would be great if you can answer to my questions...

SubjectSrt:
Hey, it would be great if you can answer to my questions...

Message:
<br\>
Hello everybody,
<br\>
<br\>I'm FullFace; new in the LSDJ community. I'm still newbie so I need
<br\>your help!
<br\>
<br\>Since I can't have the LSDJ cardridge, can someone say me how to
<br\>have LSDJ on my PC(I still have the demo but I can't save!)!
<br\>
<br\>Can someone do a little newbie guide to discover all the functions
<br\>of the LSDJ progz because I don't understand anything!!!
<br\>
<br\>Thanks to everybody!!!
<br\>
<br\>   FullFace
<br\>


Subject:
Another important question (help me please)!

SubjectSrt:
Another important question (help me please)!

Message:
<br\>
Hey,
<br\>
<br\>I have another question: for the moment, I'm using LSDJ demo on PC
<br\>but I didn't find which key on the keyboard (PC) correspond with the
<br\>keys A, B, up, down, right, left, start, select of the Game Boy!
<br\>
<br\>Help me please
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>FullFace
<br\>


Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] Another important question (help me please)!

Message:
<br\>
Read the manual that came with your emulator :)
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "fullface02" <adrienguionie@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:23 PM
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] Another important question (help me please)!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Hey,
<br\>>
<br\>> I have another question: for the moment, I'm using LSDJ demo on PC
<br\>> but I didn't find which key on the keyboard (PC) correspond with the
<br\>> keys A, B, up, down, right, left, start, select of the Game Boy!
<br\>>
<br\>> Help me please
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> FullFace
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] Hey, it would be great if you can answer to my questions...

Message:
<br\>
>I'm FullFace; new in the LSDJ community. I'm still newbie so I need
<br\>>your help!
<br\>Welcome!
<br\>
<br\>>Since I can't have the LSDJ cardridge, can someone say me how to
<br\>>have LSDJ on my PC(I still have the demo but I can't save!)!
<br\>You're doing nothing wrong. That's a demo version limitation, to encourage
<br\>you to buy the full thing. (Even though Johan, creator of LSDj, is out of
<br\>cartridges, you can buy access to the fullversion ROM image)
<br\>
<br\>>Can someone do a little newbie guide to discover all the functions
<br\>>of the LSDJ progz because I don't understand anything!!!
<br\>Íf you're no familiar with old-skool trackers, you're kinda out of luck. You
<br\>can always try the wiki, it contains some useful info:
<br\>http://wiki.littlesounddj.com/ .A guy called nullsleep has made a tutorial
<br\>too. Check it out here:
<br\>http://www.8bitpeoples.com/nullsleep/treasure/lsdj_tutorial/
<br\>
<br\>Good luck!
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
I'll sell my LSDJ for 200 USD!
<br\>and firmly so
<br\>:P
<br\>i'm serious ... if you really dont wanna go thru the exchanger stuff
<br\>... then let me do it!
<br\>     and give me money
<br\>i think its worth it, HOINK
<br\>LOVE, JERMY JOHNSON
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Another important question (help me please)!

Message:
<br\>
You'll probably need to set them yourself
<br\>its usually plainly marked in the options menu of your emulator
<br\>(input, controller ... etc.)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "fullface02" <adrienguionie@a...> wrote:
<br\>> Hey,
<br\>>
<br\>> I have another question: for the moment, I'm using LSDJ demo on PC
<br\>> but I didn't find which key on the keyboard (PC) correspond with
<br\>the
<br\>> keys A, B, up, down, right, left, start, select of the Game Boy!
<br\>>
<br\>> Help me please
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> FullFace
<br\>


Subject:
Anyone know where I can procure an LSDJ cartridge? (or a nanoloop)

SubjectSrt:
Anyone know where I can procure an LSDJ cartridge? (or a nanoloop)

Message:
<br\>
I have been looking for about a week desperately for a way to buy
<br\>LSDJ (or, if i must, nanoloop).  They are nowhere on eBay, and though
<br\>I signed up for the new version on the LSDJ website, I have no idea
<br\>when that might be done.  If anyone knows where I can find one, (or
<br\>anyone on this board would like to sell one) please reply or contact
<br\>me directly at comfortablemonkeys@...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
how about 100-150?
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Undisclosed / Jermy Johnson"
<br\><Robo_velvet@h...> wrote:
<br\>> I'll sell my LSDJ for 200 USD!
<br\>> and firmly so
<br\>> :P
<br\>> i'm serious ... if you really dont wanna go thru the exchanger stuff
<br\>> ... then let me do it!
<br\>>     and give me money
<br\>> i think its worth it, HOINK
<br\>> LOVE, JERMY JOHNSON
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
just push every button onn the keyborad duh
<br\>
<br\>fullface02 <adrienguionie@...> wrote:Hey,
<br\>
<br\>I have another question: for the moment, I'm using LSDJ demo on PC
<br\>but I didn't find which key on the keyboard (PC) correspond with the
<br\>keys A, B, up, down, right, left, start, select of the Game Boy!
<br\>
<br\>Help me please
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>FullFace
<br\>
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OK OK OK....
<br\>i have an idea. why doesnt everyone just get a gameboy emulator on their
<br\>computer and register the lsdj rom.?
<br\>i mean, duh!
<br\>dont you look smarter with a laptop anyways? ;)
<br\>
<br\>ComfortableMonkeys <comfortablemonkeys@...> wrote:
<br\>how about 100-150?
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Undisclosed / Jermy Johnson"
<br\><Robo_velvet@h...> wrote:
<br\>> I'll sell my LSDJ for 200 USD!
<br\>> and firmly so
<br\>> :P
<br\>> i'm serious ... if you really dont wanna go thru the exchanger stuff
<br\>> ... then let me do it!
<br\>>     and give me money
<br\>> i think its worth it, HOINK
<br\>> LOVE, JERMY JOHNSON
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> i have an idea. why doesnt everyone just get a gameboy emulator on
<br\>> their computer and register the lsdj rom.?
<br\>
<br\>0_0
<br\>
<br\>Blasphemy
<br\>
<br\>:D
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<br\>
Dear Ovr Thrustr,
<br\>
<br\>          Great idea.  But who makes a PC emulator for Gameboy?  Thanks in
<br\>advance.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>M.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
<br\>lsdj group:
<br\>
<br\>In case Malcolm pops into the group...
<br\>Who do you think would make the best
<br\>Adam Ant of the 21st century?
<br\>
<br\>   o Covox
<br\>   o Bud Melvin
<br\>   o Nullsleep
<br\>   o Bitshifter
<br\>   o Spoonbender
<br\>   o Lo-Bat
<br\>   o Tobias in Puss
<br\>   o Role Model
<br\>   o Printed Circuit
<br\>   o Goto80
<br\>   o Handheld
<br\>   o Mark DeNardo
<br\>   o Malcolm McLaren
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>To vote, please visit the following web page:
<br\>
<br\>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lsdj/surveys?id=1148274
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello there,
<br\>I'm ready to pay $150-200 for lsdj.
<br\>Ciao,
<br\>dc
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
It better be me, that's all I can say.  I'm working on getting that "tribal
<br\>drums" sound in LSDj and my karaoke rendition of "Goody Two Shoes" is
<br\>unmatched.  I will say I don't look so good in Native American outfits
<br\>though.
<br\>
<br\>Josh / BS»
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>on 10/22/03 9:11 PM, lsdj@yahoogroups.com at lsdj@yahoogroups.com wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
<br\>> lsdj group:
<br\>>
<br\>> In case Malcolm pops into the group...
<br\>> Who do you think would make the best
<br\>> Adam Ant of the 21st century?
<br\>>
<br\>> o Covox
<br\>> o Bud Melvin
<br\>> o Nullsleep
<br\>> o Bitshifter
<br\>> o Spoonbender
<br\>> o Lo-Bat
<br\>> o Tobias in Puss
<br\>> o Role Model
<br\>> o Printed Circuit
<br\>> o Goto80
<br\>> o Handheld
<br\>> o Mark DeNardo
<br\>> o Malcolm McLaren
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> To vote, please visit the following web page:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lsdj/surveys?id=1148274
<br\>>
<br\>> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
<br\>> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
<br\>> web site listed above.
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks!
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
> Hello there,
<br\>> I'm ready to pay $150-200 for lsdj.
<br\>
<br\>Buy the rom from Johan, and I'll burn it to a card for you for....$100?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>    From: "Bit Shifter >>"
<br\>> Subject: Re: New poll for lsdj
<br\>>
<br\>> It better be me, that's all I can say.  I'm working
<br\>> on getting that "tribal
<br\>
<br\>hey man at least you made the list ;D
<br\>
<br\>why don't people read? there's a link to the pc gb emu
<br\>no$gb right on the http://www.littlesounddj.com/ site.
<br\>whaaat? anyway, here's a link to ...
<br\>http://www.work.de/nocash/gmb.htm  ... another thing,
<br\>did you try googleing "gameboy emulator"??? huuu.
<br\>
<br\>show update:
<br\>
<br\>the night before last colon pipe played a very noisey
<br\>set opening up for the french pervert/performer
<br\>costes. nothing as impressive as his show, but we were
<br\>loud ... and after rocking some hard CHORdage jonkie
<br\>smashed his gb keyboard all over me and ovrthrsr ...
<br\>and we brawled ... 500 internal and beet pooper were
<br\>on the noize mizkurz/setup.
<br\>
<br\>pix:
<br\>
<br\>http://gorehole.org/mpls/2003-10-21_costes/
<br\>
<br\>off topic:
<br\>
<br\>but really, if http://www.costes.org/ is in your town,
<br\>his show is super smart and i think the best thing
<br\>i've ever seen live. he is on a world tour so check
<br\>his troup's tour dates!
<br\>
<br\>ok!
<br\>j.0rdan
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<br\>
Are you guys crazy ?
<br\>
<br\>The Lsdj community is not meant as a money-making-system.
<br\>
<br\>For what do you take $100 ?
<br\>For 10 minutes using a gb-transferer and then making a pirate copy ?
<br\>
<br\>@dc:
<br\>Buy the ROM and a cartrigde and I'll burn it for you for free.
<br\>this would also be an illegal copy, but i own lsdj already.
<br\>
<br\>.milez
<br\>
<br\>Thursday, October 23, 2003, 3:27:49 PM, you wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>> Hello there,
<br\>>> I'm ready to pay $150-200 for lsdj.
<br\>
<br\>DG> Buy the rom from Johan, and I'll burn it to a card for you for....$100?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
wots so illegal if they pay for the rom???
<br\>besides, blank cartridges are not cheap, neither are
<br\>transferers... yr offer isnt really much different
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- mileZ hh <48milz@...> wrote:
<br\>> Are you guys crazy ?
<br\>>
<br\>> The Lsdj community is not meant as a
<br\>> money-making-system.
<br\>>
<br\>> For what do you take $100 ?
<br\>> For 10 minutes using a gb-transferer and then making
<br\>> a pirate copy ?
<br\>>
<br\>> @dc:
<br\>> Buy the ROM and a cartrigde and I'll burn it for you
<br\>> for free.
<br\>> this would also be an illegal copy, but i own lsdj
<br\>> already.
<br\>>
<br\>> .milez
<br\>>
<br\>> Thursday, October 23, 2003, 3:27:49 PM, you wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >> Hello there,
<br\>> >> I'm ready to pay $150-200 for lsdj.
<br\>>
<br\>> DG> Buy the rom from Johan, and I'll burn it to a
<br\>> card for you for....$100?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> DG> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
<br\>> to:
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<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>> 76670433
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
either way...
<br\>my paypal address is: Robo_Velvet@...
<br\>the first pal to throw 200 usd my way, gets a working clear blue
<br\>lsdj cartridge with a custom pink lsdj label, and the printed purple
<br\>manual.
<br\>i paid about 90 something total for it a while back
<br\>and i'm ready to move onto the xchanger methods.
<br\>if youre new to lsdj ... just buy it from me
<br\>i'm not trying to get crazy profit from this ... i just wanna make
<br\>sure its worth it for me to sell it ... seeing as how i'll have
<br\>plenty of working/hunting to do when i get started
<br\>
<br\>its all ready to go
<br\>in fact i'll even tutor you when you get it
<br\>LOVE,JERMY
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i cant believe what this list is turning into, for
<br\>awhile now its been nothing but "im a newibie, i NEED
<br\>an lsdj cart" now its ppl tryin to make $$$$$. look,
<br\>sure theres demand for it, and if johan doesnt feel
<br\>like pumping out another batch of carts, fine. its
<br\>cool that other ppl are willing to order carts, burn
<br\>em, and send em out, just as long as johan gets what
<br\>he deserves. i think everybody whose been up on this
<br\>shit for awhile knows all that hes put into this and
<br\>what an incredible program it is. so for fucks sake,
<br\>if yr gonna make deals on his list, at least include a
<br\>prerequisite of rom ownership. thats all i gotta say
<br\>about that.
<br\>-who am i?
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<br\>
since when is selling something secondhand wrong?  it would be the
<br\>equivalent of selling lsdj at a garage sale.  except here, he knows
<br\>that people actually want what hes trying to sell.  so he wants a
<br\>200% profit.  maybe its wrong to pricegouge, but its supply and
<br\>demand.  personally, i think his is a good idea, and while i hate
<br\>that i dont have the money to burn on it, i dont see anything wrong
<br\>with it.  why should buying the rom be a prerequisite?  buying a use
<br\>video game from funco land shouldnt imply that i have to send money
<br\>to nintendo or whomever.  the fact of the matter is that johan
<br\>already got the profit from the cart when it was bought the first
<br\>time.
<br\>
<br\>so yeah, my two cents.
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "joshypants<who am i?>" <orange4d@y...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> i cant believe what this list is turning into,
<br\>
<br\>[snip]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
<doriantw@...> wrote:
<br\>> since when is selling something secondhand wrong?
<br\>
<br\>i was under the impression that it was a burned cart
<br\>for sale... however, if hes just gonna sell it and
<br\>burn another for himself (once an exchanger is
<br\>aquired), then whats the difference? if he is really
<br\>selling what he bought (the original cart AND
<br\>rom=rights2program) it would be different. but he is
<br\>keeping the subscription to himself... does this make
<br\>sense to anybody?
<br\>...also, this list used to be more of a bunch of
<br\>enthusiatic ppl coming together with ideas to advance
<br\>or better utilise the program. i would love to see
<br\>more of that again!
<br\>-who am  i?
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<br\>
> Buy the rom from Johan, and I'll burn it to a card for you
<br\>> for....$100?
<br\>
<br\>I was being faceteous when I wrote this this morning, but didn't get a
<br\>chance until now to give my clarification... (Note that I'm not the one that
<br\>was just going to sell a cart with the rom uploaded).
<br\>
<br\>But seriously, look at the options:
<br\>http://tinyurl.com/s4qb
<br\>This is the gamejack, and in stock at my favorite gameboy backup store,
<br\>success-hk.com. That's $60, plus shipping! But it's a 64M card, so you
<br\>should be able to get multiple roms on it, as well as whatever else you want
<br\>to throw on. I've read somewhere about problems with it, and there was a big
<br\>page somewhere with someone's solutions to the annoying problems. Oh yeah,
<br\>and it's got a rumble feature. Whee.
<br\>
<br\>And here's the other option:
<br\>http://tinyurl.com/s4ql
<br\>This is a flash2advance 64M bundle including the USB linker and the GB
<br\>Bridge. (Check the archives for people's experiences/problems with the GB
<br\>Bridge option). Again, $75, plus shipping from HK.
<br\>
<br\>Personally, I have a PC Linker with 16M flash card that I'd be willing to
<br\>part with for $100 easily! But they're out of stock, and I suspect that they
<br\>are forever. (Try finding it or the x-changer at just about any online
<br\>retailer). It's nice. It works, and you can keep 4 copies of LSDJ on it. (I
<br\>think it uses the same save memory space, so I think doing that would be
<br\>problematic in that changing one copy will cause the other copies to
<br\>change).
<br\>http://tinyurl.com/s4r0
<br\>
<br\>So, the $100 isn't that unreasonable, considering the work involved (hooking
<br\>it up to the parallel port, loading the software, making it work again with
<br\>XP, etc), and that I probably wouldn't need to charge for shipping.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey, thanks for calling that guy on trying to totally screw someone
<br\>over by charging them $200 for an LSDJ. If you ask me, this is about
<br\>music, not money.... I was going to ask though, if I can get the ROM
<br\>and the cartridge, would you be able to make me a copy... I don't just
<br\>ask this for nothing either... I would love to trade for the service. I
<br\>don't know exactly what your needs are, but if you are a fan of
<br\>Nintendo at all, (old school nes) I silkscreen a lot of images from
<br\>nintendo games onto T-Shirts, and sell them online. Maybe I could trade
<br\>a couple shirts... If that's not an interest of yours, let me know what
<br\>is, and I'll see if I can come up with something.
<br\>
<br\>On the other hand, if you don't want to do it, I understand as I am a
<br\>total stranger and all... But if you are willing, please point me in
<br\>the right direction for getting the cartridge and the rom... (though I
<br\>could probably find them, I would like to know what the best places to
<br\>look are if you know them).
<br\>
<br\>Either way, thanks for sticking up to the guy trying to abuse his
<br\>capabilities and charge so much! At least offer it for what you bought
<br\>it for I would think!
<br\>
<br\>Let me know if you ARE interested in the shirts, and I'll send you a
<br\>catalog by email.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks again,
<br\>Armand
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 09:21  AM, mileZ hh wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Are you guys crazy ?
<br\>>
<br\>> The Lsdj community is not meant as a money-making-system.
<br\>>
<br\>> For what do you take $100 ?
<br\>> For 10 minutes using a gb-transferer and then making a pirate copy ?
<br\>>
<br\>> @dc:
<br\>> Buy the ROM and a cartrigde and I'll burn it for you for free.
<br\>> this would also be an illegal copy, but i own lsdj already.
<br\>>
<br\>> .milez
<br\>>
<br\>> Thursday, October 23, 2003, 3:27:49 PM, you wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>>> Hello there,
<br\>>>> I'm ready to pay $150-200 for lsdj.
<br\>>
<br\>> DG> Buy the rom from Johan, and I'll burn it to a card for you
<br\>> for....$100?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> DG> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>
Well, this was supposed to be a person letter, but I messed that up...
<br\>woops
<br\>On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 06:33  PM, Rami Kossayan wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Hey, thanks for calling that guy on trying to totally screw someone
<br\>> over by charging them $200 for an LSDJ. If you ask me, this is about
<br\>> music, not money.... I was going to ask though, if I can get the ROM
<br\>> and the cartridge, would you be able to make me a copy... I don't just
<br\>> ask this for nothing either... I would love to trade for the service. I
<br\>> don't know exactly what your needs are, but if you are a fan of
<br\>> Nintendo at all, (old school nes) I silkscreen a lot of images from
<br\>> nintendo games onto T-Shirts, and sell them online. Maybe I could trade
<br\>> a couple shirts... If that's not an interest of yours, let me know what
<br\>> is, and I'll see if I can come up with something.
<br\>>
<br\>> On the other hand, if you don't want to do it, I understand as I am a
<br\>> total stranger and all... But if you are willing, please point me in
<br\>> the right direction for getting the cartridge and the rom... (though I
<br\>> could probably find them, I would like to know what the best places to
<br\>> look are if you know them).
<br\>>
<br\>> Either way, thanks for sticking up to the guy trying to abuse his
<br\>> capabilities and charge so much! At least offer it for what you bought
<br\>> it for I would think!
<br\>>
<br\>> Let me know if you ARE interested in the shirts, and I'll send you a
<br\>> catalog by email.
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks again,
<br\>> Armand
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 09:21  AM, mileZ hh wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>> Are you guys crazy ?
<br\>>>
<br\>>> The Lsdj community is not meant as a money-making-system.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> For what do you take $100 ?
<br\>>> For 10 minutes using a gb-transferer and then making a pirate copy ?
<br\>>>
<br\>>> @dc:
<br\>>> Buy the ROM and a cartrigde and I'll burn it for you for free.
<br\>>> this would also be an illegal copy, but i own lsdj already.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> .milez
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Thursday, October 23, 2003, 3:27:49 PM, you wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>>>> Hello there,
<br\>>>>> I'm ready to pay $150-200 for lsdj.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> DG> Buy the rom from Johan, and I'll burn it to a card for you
<br\>>> for....$100?
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>> DG> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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<br\>>>
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<br\>>>
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Message:
<br\>
this is absurd and also predictable . . . i'm sure it won't be long
<br\>before someone who doesn't care about our little community here buys
<br\>the rom and is distributes it freely.
<br\>
<br\>which wouldn't be much worse than people looking to make money by
<br\>selling copies of the ROM for big prices.
<br\>
<br\>both actions are skrewing johan out of money he could be making on
<br\>the ROM image.
<br\>
<br\>the idea of selling a cart to someone who has registered the ROM is a
<br\>good idea, but there isn't a way for anyone but johan to check who
<br\>has registered the ROM.
<br\>
<br\>perhaps all of this new interest in LSDj will be enough to prompt
<br\>johan to start production again, as there is obviously some money to
<br\>be made. even more so when firestarter's synch cable comes out (soon
<br\>please!!! ;) ... and i know i'm really streching the dream here, but
<br\>maybe this new interest will inspire some updates, like bringing the
<br\>difficult-to-implement chord command back (i know, my anoying begging
<br\>about that one has only gone on a month or two right?? ;)
<br\>
<br\>NOW!!! FOR THOSE OF YOU INTERESTED IN GETTING LSDJ ON A ROM:
<br\>
<br\>first, realize that everything you need to get LSDj on a cart is
<br\>avalible to you for under 100$, if you're willing to read.
<br\>
<br\>then, try it out the demo version. it's free so you can figure out if
<br\>you really want to put money down. it's fully functional besides a
<br\>nag screen and not letting you save. you can get it at:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/demo_version/
<br\>
<br\>if you're using no$gb emulator ( http://www.work.de/nocash/gmb.htm )
<br\>on your pc, you can get around not being able to save your work by
<br\>doing a File->Write Snapshot (CTRL W).
<br\>
<br\>if you get that far, i'm doing a tutorial for the 8bp r+d dept . . .
<br\>take a peek at the quickstart guide i have so far and let me know
<br\>what you think, if it's useful, etc (i want to make it better).
<br\>
<br\>http://gorehole.org/tute/
<br\>
<br\>the manual ( http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/documentation/ )
<br\>offers a bunch more than my hacked up guide, as does nullsleep's
<br\>current guide (
<br\>http://www.8bitpeoples.com/nullsleep/treasure/lsdj_tutorial/ ).
<br\>
<br\>another _great_ resource for LSDj is the wiki. don't be afraid of the
<br\>plan text, JUST READ IT!!! ... http://wiki.littlesounddj.com/ ...
<br\>especially if you want to get a cart writer working with your pc, it
<br\>has all the info you need.
<br\>
<br\>i'd offer up my old tutorials, but they're on paper from when i was
<br\>doing LSDj school and my scanner is broken. expect more peeks at my
<br\>tutorials in progress and final versions on the 8bp site.
<br\>
<br\>ok!
<br\>j.ordan /
<br\>starPause /
<br\>reconstructing richard
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, Rami Kossayan <bluebogle@e...> wrote:
<br\>> Well, this was supposed to be a person letter, but I messed that
<br\>up...
<br\>> woops
<br\>> On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 06:33  PM, Rami Kossayan wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > Hey, thanks for calling that guy on trying to totally screw
<br\>someone
<br\>> > over by charging them $200 for an LSDJ. If you ask me, this is
<br\>about
<br\>> > music, not money.... I was going to ask though, if I can get the
<br\>ROM
<br\>> > and the cartridge, would you be able to make me a copy... I don't
<br\>just
<br\>> > ask this for nothing either... I would love to trade for the
<br\>service. I
<br\>> > don't know exactly what your needs are, but if you are a fan of
<br\>> > Nintendo at all, (old school nes) I silkscreen a lot of images
<br\>from
<br\>> > nintendo games onto T-Shirts, and sell them online. Maybe I could
<br\>trade
<br\>> > a couple shirts... If that's not an interest of yours, let me
<br\>know what
<br\>> > is, and I'll see if I can come up with something.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I agree with you. But the only problem is. It seems that these
<br\>gamebiy carts/flashers are really getting hard to come by. Almost
<br\>impossible. I htink this is the same reason that nanoloop and lsdj
<br\>arent easy to buy anymore.
<br\>
<br\>So this takes care of rom sharing as well. Theres those gb advance
<br\>flashers, but man the advance sound sucks.
<br\>
<br\>rivot
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
man, i really don't know what you're talking about. maybe it is
<br\>impossible for johan to get a big batch of gameboy carts to put lsdj
<br\>on, but that's not what i heard exactly.
<br\>
<br\>true, the market for old GB flash writers and so on is dwindling as
<br\>the new, gba market takes over, but your argument is seriously flawed
<br\>by the many resalers still stocking the GAMEJACK flasher, the PC
<br\>LINKER, and even the GB TRANSFERER.
<br\>
<br\>it's never been _easy_ getting ahold of this shit because it's
<br\>manufactured in hong kong. but it is possible, through the
<br\>distributers listed on this mailing lists link page and other places.
<br\>
<br\>BESIDES THAT, this guy has instructions on how to make your own
<br\>writable cart: http://www.reinerziegler.de/ ... johan has
<br\>intentionaly kept the size of LSDj below the 4MB mark so that LSDj
<br\>could be writen to home brew carts and even the oldest manufactured
<br\>GB carts.
<br\>
<br\>On top of it all, the issue here isn't if we REALLY can or can't
<br\>pirate LSDj. it's about supporting the author who created the awesome
<br\>program you want your paws all over.
<br\>
<br\>Now, as far as gameboy advance goes, it is true that there are some
<br\>complications with GBA carts and LSDj. And the GBA's layout is ass-
<br\>backwards for getting anything done in LSDj.
<br\>
<br\>However, the sound and key layout on the gameboy SP is really good.
<br\>In fact, since my gameboy light myseriously died (ok, i got it
<br\>wet ... but ... i thought gameboys were durable ;), i've been
<br\>composing on my GBA SP using LSDj. The KITS are noisy, so i don't use
<br\>them without the odd ball "hidden" distortion settings. the soft
<br\>synthesis sounds +perfect+ ... so between that and distorted kits,
<br\>it's still possible to get some good sound out of the WAV channel.
<br\>all other channels work perfect.
<br\>
<br\>anyway, regardless, pirating and money grubbing will only kill this
<br\>scene ... which, right now, is getting a surge of new interest and
<br\>could really blossom into something bigger than most ever thought it
<br\>would be. and not only because of the recent 8bp media exposure ... i
<br\>know i've already posted this link, but take a look at the scene.org
<br\>report of how they represented at the famos ars electronica event:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.scene.org/misc/arselectronica.php
<br\>
<br\>if you're honestly worried about tracking disapearing from handheld
<br\>consoles, i would suggest getting serious about coding for the GBA or
<br\>GP32. the guys who programed the pc tracker http://www.renoise.com/
<br\>didn't know how to code before they started, and they had a working
<br\>product within two years. the only way the scene will die is if
<br\>greedy, self interested people kill it.
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan /
<br\>starPause
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "rivotk2003" <rivotk2003@y...> wrote:
<br\>> I agree with you. But the only problem is. It seems that these
<br\>> gamebiy carts/flashers are really getting hard to come by. Almost
<br\>> impossible. I htink this is the same reason that nanoloop and lsdj
<br\>> arent easy to buy anymore.
<br\>>
<br\>> So this takes care of rom sharing as well. Theres those gb advance
<br\>> flashers, but man the advance sound sucks.
<br\>>
<br\>> rivot
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
, so i don't use >
<br\>> them without the odd ball "hidden" distortion settings.
<br\>
<br\>Can u Xplain what u mean here ?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yeah ... go to a KIT instrument, down to the DIST setting.
<br\>
<br\>hold A ... tap in any direction about three billion times (ok not
<br\>that many, but just keep tapping) ...
<br\>
<br\>then the DIST type should change to a ?XXXX value ... you can change
<br\>the value around ...
<br\>
<br\>interesting sounds ;D
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "M-.-n" <nostromo@a...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> , so i don't use >
<br\>> > them without the odd ball "hidden" distortion settings.
<br\>>
<br\>> Can u Xplain what u mean here ?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>   Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:33:30 -0000
<br\>>    From: "rivotk2003" <rivotk2003@...>
<br\>>Subject: Re: Lsdj
<br\>>
<br\>>I agree with you. But the only problem is. It seems that these
<br\>>gamebiy carts/flashers are really getting hard to come by. Almost
<br\>>impossible. I htink this is the same reason that nanoloop and lsdj
<br\>>arent easy to buy anymore.
<br\>
<br\>I managed to find one here in france (xchanger) at an online auction site,
<br\>but it was the only one I saw since at least one year ago. So they *can* be
<br\>found but you've got to be lucky.
<br\>
<br\>I bought the xchanger to make nanoloop backups (a really needed things
<br\>after a few years of use) but I'll certainly buy lsdj soon as I've got the
<br\>needed hardware now. Mmm, I'll need a second gameboy then, and another pair
<br\>of arms to be able to play both live :)
<br\>
<br\>While I'm here, what are the exact limitations of the demo ?
<br\>Is it just that saving is not enabled or are there other things that I
<br\>should know before I spend a few hours trying everything ?
<br\>
<br\></daviD>
<br\>
<br\>"Simulating the true styles and making carefully !
<br\>   Many colours a lot, selected freely by you !"
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> So this takes care of rom sharing as well. Theres those gb advance
<br\>> flashers, but man the advance sound sucks.
<br\>
<br\>Once you've got the rom flashed on the flash2advance with a gb bridge, you
<br\>can use that in a regular gameboy. (The old grey may need some modification
<br\>to the switch though, I can't remember if it interferes).
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Wow, what a discussion...
<br\>
<br\>My two cents... I don't mind if anyone shares the ROM image with a personal
<br\>friend. It's only healthy and natural activity... If anyone makes $$$ burning
<br\>and selling cartridges to strangers and newcomers it's a little different, but
<br\>honestly I only got myself to blame for not producing cartridges myself anymore.
<br\>If there is the rare case that anyone charges more than he feels is "honest" for
<br\>the actual amount of work involved, I would suggest to send the surplus to
<br\>Médecins Sans Frontières, www.msf.org
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey folks,
<br\>
<br\>The golden era of gameboy music will be soon over before it even
<br\>began.  Just as people were finding out about LSDJ and nanoloop
<br\>software, all production began moving to the GBA platform - even
<br\>hobbiest coders are focusing on that now.
<br\>
<br\>Add on top of that Nintendo's lawsuits against backup gear - why
<br\>bother to take risks with old backup gear when so few people care
<br\>about old GB anymore?  And from all accounts, the GB-bridge for GBA
<br\>is buggy and I see little motivation for the company to get that
<br\>working in the manner we've been used to with the XChanger and
<br\>others.
<br\>
<br\>Those of us who got things in time are truly lucky.  Eventually all
<br\>that will be left for people is to use LSDJ in gb emulators on PC or
<br\>even gb emulators on GBA or GP32.  Or it will go back to the truly
<br\>hardcore to hack their own gb carts and transferrers as displayed at
<br\>zieglers site as j.ordan mentioned earlier.
<br\>
<br\>For people who actually bought a real cartridge from Johan, there is
<br\>absolutely nothing wrong with selling it secondhand.  And if someone
<br\>truly wants to pay a lot of money for it, let them.  If I wanted to
<br\>sell my original 1.2 cart, I could charge $1000 for it and
<br\>eventually someone who had money to burn would want it that bad.
<br\>
<br\>For people selling the ROM, well eventually anything popular will be
<br\>bootlegged, but this is especially wrong to do to the small guy.  On
<br\>the other hand, if someone pays Johan for ROM access and someone
<br\>else for creating the cart, that seems like a legitamte business
<br\>transaction.
<br\>
<br\>Malcom McClaren is definitely barking up the wrong tree.  However,
<br\>if I win in the poll (I couldn't help but notice I was in the lead -
<br\>and I didn't vote for myself) I do have some big plans for my new
<br\>music career.
<br\>
<br\>1. Sell my song to a car commercial
<br\>2. Big advance from the record label
<br\>3. Fashion makeover
<br\>4. Expensive drug habit
<br\>5. Acting like an asshole to everyone on this list who helped me get
<br\>going in this music
<br\>6. Near bankrupcy from drug addiction and debt back to record label
<br\>7. Becoming a washed-up has-been trying to get media attention
<br\>8. Write the story of my life and appear on bad talk shows
<br\>
<br\>I expect steps 1-8 should take about 9 months to a year.
<br\>
<br\>Sorry for the long post.
<br\>
<br\>Peace and love,
<br\>
<br\>Bud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
OK!
<br\>this is WHAT i think!
<br\>why the fuck do all of you want LSDJ?
<br\>if you cant figure out how to even use a gameboy emulator, what are you doing
<br\>trying to buy an LSDJ cart for 200 usd when you wouldnt be able to figure it out
<br\>anyway?
<br\>i think its all just a bunch of "malcolm mclarens" trying to be
<br\>"underground" or whatever because of this big new stupid 4-bit 8-bit whatever
<br\>fashoinable to be crappy and wierd with a gameboy.
<br\>every electronix show flyer is all "4-bitted" out and every other show i go to,
<br\>somebody has nanoloop or some circuit bent piece of crap toy.
<br\>i dont use LSDJ because its "cool" to play a gameboy, i use it because its
<br\>simply one of the best designed programs out there, and i can make ANY music i
<br\>think of in my head on it!
<br\>i mean, look at how much other music programs that dont even have the
<br\>flexibility of composition cost! fruityloops, maxmsp, logic, whatever!
<br\>that crap is all $300 buks! or MORE!
<br\>i think the little sound dj is definitely worth $200 just because it is such a
<br\>powerful tool!
<br\>and i think we dont need (now this may seem a little mean-spirited) every other
<br\>trance-making 17-yr old eurotrash(or usatrash) gel haired electronix dork with a
<br\>copy of lsdj collecting dust in their gameboys! or just pumping out random crap
<br\>noise because they cant even figure out how to use the bloody program!
<br\>i think everyone should try the demo first in an emulator, because it seems
<br\>quite obvious to me that just about NO ONE that is sitting there saying they
<br\>will pay $200 buks for a cart has even USED THE PROGRAM!
<br\>and everyone that cant even figure that out, JUST SHUT UP!
<br\>
<br\>thanksfor yr time, sorryfor the rant, whatever
<br\>
<br\>OVERTHRUSTR
<br\>
<br\>starpawz612 <starpawz612@...> wrote:
<br\>man, i really don't know what you're talking about. maybe it is
<br\>impossible for johan to get a big batch of gameboy carts to put lsdj
<br\>on, but that's not what i heard exactly.
<br\>
<br\>true, the market for old GB flash writers and so on is dwindling as
<br\>the new, gba market takes over, but your argument is seriously flawed
<br\>by the many resalers still stocking the GAMEJACK flasher, the PC
<br\>LINKER, and even the GB TRANSFERER.
<br\>
<br\>it's never been _easy_ getting ahold of this shit because it's
<br\>manufactured in hong kong. but it is possible, through the
<br\>distributers listed on this mailing lists link page and other places.
<br\>
<br\>BESIDES THAT, this guy has instructions on how to make your own
<br\>writable cart: http://www.reinerziegler.de/ ... johan has
<br\>intentionaly kept the size of LSDj below the 4MB mark so that LSDj
<br\>could be writen to home brew carts and even the oldest manufactured
<br\>GB carts.
<br\>
<br\>On top of it all, the issue here isn't if we REALLY can or can't
<br\>pirate LSDj. it's about supporting the author who created the awesome
<br\>program you want your paws all over.
<br\>
<br\>Now, as far as gameboy advance goes, it is true that there are some
<br\>complications with GBA carts and LSDj. And the GBA's layout is ass-
<br\>backwards for getting anything done in LSDj.
<br\>
<br\>However, the sound and key layout on the gameboy SP is really good.
<br\>In fact, since my gameboy light myseriously died (ok, i got it
<br\>wet ... but ... i thought gameboys were durable ;), i've been
<br\>composing on my GBA SP using LSDj. The KITS are noisy, so i don't use
<br\>them without the odd ball "hidden" distortion settings. the soft
<br\>synthesis sounds +perfect+ ... so between that and distorted kits,
<br\>it's still possible to get some good sound out of the WAV channel.
<br\>all other channels work perfect.
<br\>
<br\>anyway, regardless, pirating and money grubbing will only kill this
<br\>scene ... which, right now, is getting a surge of new interest and
<br\>could really blossom into something bigger than most ever thought it
<br\>would be. and not only because of the recent 8bp media exposure ... i
<br\>know i've already posted this link, but take a look at the scene.org
<br\>report of how they represented at the famos ars electronica event:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.scene.org/misc/arselectronica.php
<br\>
<br\>if you're honestly worried about tracking disapearing from handheld
<br\>consoles, i would suggest getting serious about coding for the GBA or
<br\>GP32. the guys who programed the pc tracker http://www.renoise.com/
<br\>didn't know how to code before they started, and they had a working
<br\>product within two years. the only way the scene will die is if
<br\>greedy, self interested people kill it.
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan /
<br\>starPause
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "rivotk2003" <rivotk2003@y...> wrote:
<br\>> I agree with you. But the only problem is. It seems that these
<br\>> gamebiy carts/flashers are really getting hard to come by. Almost
<br\>> impossible. I htink this is the same reason that nanoloop and lsdj
<br\>> arent easy to buy anymore.
<br\>>
<br\>> So this takes care of rom sharing as well. Theres those gb advance
<br\>> flashers, but man the advance sound sucks.
<br\>>
<br\>> rivot
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
hey
<br\>
<br\>bud melvin, handheld, who else is in the windy city? ... i'll be
<br\>visiting over the thanksgiving holiday time (i'll be around the
<br\>nights of the 27, 28, and 29).
<br\>
<br\>anyone want to meet up? pump some jams? any parties/cool
<br\>places/things going on? i'd love to play a set or freeze my fingers
<br\>off busking . ...
<br\>
<br\>hit me up!!!
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan /
<br\>starPause
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> OK!
<br\>> this is WHAT i think!
<br\>> why the fuck do all of you want LSDJ?
<br\>
<br\>On the other hand you might say it is cool that other people knows about
<br\>LSDJ, even if it is because of a trendy thing... I know that if I didn't
<br\>know about it and read about it, I would want one, for the same reason that
<br\>I'm happy to have one now.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yes it is sad that johan isn't at all interested in picking up cart
<br\>produciton or updates, but i suppose that is just the cycle of
<br\>things. we are all very lucky to have LSDj, and i'm glad to have been
<br\>introduced to the modular tracker paradigm . . .
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "budmelvin" <budmelvin@h...> wrote:
<br\>> Hey folks,
<br\>>
<br\>> The golden era of gameboy music will be soon over before it even
<br\>> began.  Just as people were finding out about LSDJ and nanoloop
<br\>> software, all production began moving to the GBA platform - even
<br\>> hobbiest coders are focusing on that now.
<br\>
<br\>i don't think this is a bad thing ... it just means a new generation.
<br\>and with interest sparked in the scene, i think some really great
<br\>things could happen.
<br\>
<br\>somehow pocket music for gba got licenced and produced. it's painful
<br\>to actually use, but it is a cart for making music only. i don't
<br\>think it would be too crazy for something useable like a tracker to
<br\>be manufactured someday. more likely, i think another "underground"
<br\>tracker for gp32 or gba will happen.
<br\>
<br\>even if nothing does, well ... it's been great ;D
<br\>
<br\>and even if LSDj winds up being the only protable production studio
<br\>ever created, it's a super useful tool. i guess i'll feel like a cool
<br\>old man when a copy of LSDj and a midi synch cable are being coveted
<br\>like the tb303 or 909 and bleepstreet's chip house is banging in
<br\>every other club. i hope those see through japanese skirts go
<br\>international by then too.
<br\>
<br\>> and I didn't vote for myself) I do have some big plans for my new
<br\>> music career.
<br\>
<br\>this is going to be awesome bud ;D i just hope you can keep making
<br\>rad tunes through the fame binge!
<br\>
<br\>ok ...
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yeah ... i remember being so disapointed with a yamaha qy-10 when i
<br\>got one ... it was so shitty ... thank god i was able to sell it and
<br\>found out about LSDj ... i remember sitting with my gf then and us
<br\>going through the manual ....  ... oooooooooh hahahaha
<br\>
<br\>and ... if trashy kids are playing with LSDj, they'll have a much
<br\>greater apreciation for the music everyone is already making. i think
<br\>chip composition has always kind of been an inside scene, where it's
<br\>most fun for those who can imagine how it's made, etc ... so the more
<br\>the merrier i say! ... maybe those trashy kids are cute too ;D
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "M-.-n" <nostromo@a...> wrote:
<br\>> > OK!
<br\>> > this is WHAT i think!
<br\>> > why the fuck do all of you want LSDJ?
<br\>>
<br\>> On the other hand you might say it is cool that other people knows
<br\>about
<br\>> LSDJ, even if it is because of a trendy thing... I know that if I
<br\>didn't
<br\>> know about it and read about it, I would want one, for the same
<br\>reason that
<br\>> I'm happy to have one now.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I'm here too.  That weekend there is an...um... Doctor Who convention
<br\>that... um... I'm going to be working at.  OH GOD I can't believe I admitted
<br\>that...
<br\>
<br\>     But I'd love to hook up with you guys too.  I'll even try hard not to
<br\>bring my remote control Dalek.  :)
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "starpawz612" <starpawz612@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 1:47 PM
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] CHICAGO? nov. 27, 28, 29
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> hey
<br\>>
<br\>> bud melvin, handheld, who else is in the windy city? ... i'll be
<br\>> visiting over the thanksgiving holiday time (i'll be around the
<br\>> nights of the 27, 28, and 29).
<br\>>
<br\>> anyone want to meet up? pump some jams? any parties/cool
<br\>> places/things going on? i'd love to play a set or freeze my fingers
<br\>> off busking . ...
<br\>>
<br\>> hit me up!!!
<br\>>
<br\>> j.ordan /
<br\>> starPause
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
>     I'm here too.  That weekend there is an...um... Doctor
<br\>> Who convention that... um... I'm going to be working at.  OH
<br\>> GOD I can't believe I admitted that...
<br\>
<br\>d00d, I wanna hear the Doctor Who theme music recreated on LSDJ. Kinda like
<br\>the depeche mode megamix. But damn, that sounded like a lot of work. Plus,
<br\>Orbital can't have ALL the fun...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i totally agree
<br\>i cant imagine anything cool coming out of one of those goons
<br\>  anyway... i am looking to sell my lsdj cart to someone who knows
<br\>the value of it .. and wants to learn to use it for good music ...
<br\>not just geek chic.
<br\>and really ... try and track down backup gear and info...
<br\>its not too easy ... and i can easily imagine someone not as savvy
<br\>as we, just not being into it ... i mean ... thats why people bought
<br\>the carts in the first place.
<br\>so i think i'll just put it on ebay
<br\>stay tuned for the link gentlemen
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, ovr thrustr <peukjunkr@y...> wrote:
<br\>> OK!
<br\>> this is WHAT i think!
<br\>> why the fuck do all of you want LSDJ?
<br\>> if you cant figure out how to even use a gameboy emulator, what
<br\>are you doing trying to buy an LSDJ cart for 200 usd when you
<br\>wouldnt be able to figure it out anyway?
<br\>> i think its all just a bunch of "malcolm mclarens" trying to be
<br\>> "underground" or whatever because of this big new stupid 4-bit 8-
<br\>bit whatever fashoinable to be crappy and wierd with a gameboy.
<br\>> every electronix show flyer is all "4-bitted" out and every other
<br\>show i go to, somebody has nanoloop or some circuit bent piece of
<br\>crap toy.
<br\>> i dont use LSDJ because its "cool" to play a gameboy, i use it
<br\>because its simply one of the best designed programs out there, and
<br\>i can make ANY music i think of in my head on it!
<br\>> i mean, look at how much other music programs that dont even have
<br\>the flexibility of composition cost! fruityloops, maxmsp, logic,
<br\>whatever!
<br\>> that crap is all $300 buks! or MORE!
<br\>> i think the little sound dj is definitely worth $200 just because
<br\>it is such a powerful tool!
<br\>> and i think we dont need (now this may seem a little mean-
<br\>spirited) every other trance-making 17-yr old eurotrash(or usatrash)
<br\>gel haired electronix dork with a copy of lsdj collecting dust in
<br\>their gameboys! or just pumping out random crap noise because they
<br\>cant even figure out how to use the bloody program!
<br\>> i think everyone should try the demo first in an emulator, because
<br\>it seems quite obvious to me that just about NO ONE that is sitting
<br\>there saying they will pay $200 buks for a cart has even USED THE
<br\>PROGRAM!
<br\>> and everyone that cant even figure that out, JUST SHUT UP!
<br\>>
<br\>> thanksfor yr time, sorryfor the rant, whatever
<br\>>
<br\>> OVERTHRUSTR
<br\>>
<br\>> starpawz612 <starpawz612@y...> wrote:
<br\>> man, i really don't know what you're talking about. maybe it is
<br\>> impossible for johan to get a big batch of gameboy carts to put
<br\>lsdj
<br\>> on, but that's not what i heard exactly.
<br\>>
<br\>> true, the market for old GB flash writers and so on is dwindling
<br\>as
<br\>> the new, gba market takes over, but your argument is seriously
<br\>flawed
<br\>> by the many resalers still stocking the GAMEJACK flasher, the PC
<br\>> LINKER, and even the GB TRANSFERER.
<br\>>
<br\>> it's never been _easy_ getting ahold of this shit because it's
<br\>> manufactured in hong kong. but it is possible, through the
<br\>> distributers listed on this mailing lists link page and other
<br\>places.
<br\>>
<br\>> BESIDES THAT, this guy has instructions on how to make your own
<br\>> writable cart: http://www.reinerziegler.de/ ... johan has
<br\>> intentionaly kept the size of LSDj below the 4MB mark so that LSDj
<br\>> could be writen to home brew carts and even the oldest
<br\>manufactured
<br\>> GB carts.
<br\>>
<br\>> On top of it all, the issue here isn't if we REALLY can or can't
<br\>> pirate LSDj. it's about supporting the author who created the
<br\>awesome
<br\>> program you want your paws all over.
<br\>>
<br\>> Now, as far as gameboy advance goes, it is true that there are
<br\>some
<br\>> complications with GBA carts and LSDj. And the GBA's layout is ass-
<br\>> backwards for getting anything done in LSDj.
<br\>>
<br\>> However, the sound and key layout on the gameboy SP is really
<br\>good.
<br\>> In fact, since my gameboy light myseriously died (ok, i got it
<br\>> wet ... but ... i thought gameboys were durable ;), i've been
<br\>> composing on my GBA SP using LSDj. The KITS are noisy, so i don't
<br\>use
<br\>> them without the odd ball "hidden" distortion settings. the soft
<br\>> synthesis sounds +perfect+ ... so between that and distorted kits,
<br\>> it's still possible to get some good sound out of the WAV channel.
<br\>> all other channels work perfect.
<br\>>
<br\>> anyway, regardless, pirating and money grubbing will only kill
<br\>this
<br\>> scene ... which, right now, is getting a surge of new interest and
<br\>> could really blossom into something bigger than most ever thought
<br\>it
<br\>> would be. and not only because of the recent 8bp media
<br\>exposure ... i
<br\>> know i've already posted this link, but take a look at the
<br\>scene.org
<br\>> report of how they represented at the famos ars electronica event:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.scene.org/misc/arselectronica.php
<br\>>
<br\>> if you're honestly worried about tracking disapearing from
<br\>handheld
<br\>> consoles, i would suggest getting serious about coding for the GBA
<br\>or
<br\>> GP32. the guys who programed the pc tracker
<br\>http://www.renoise.com/
<br\>> didn't know how to code before they started, and they had a
<br\>working
<br\>> product within two years. the only way the scene will die is if
<br\>> greedy, self interested people kill it.
<br\>>
<br\>> j.ordan /
<br\>> starPause
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "rivotk2003" <rivotk2003@y...> wrote:
<br\>> > I agree with you. But the only problem is. It seems that these
<br\>> > gamebiy carts/flashers are really getting hard to come by.
<br\>Almost
<br\>> > impossible. I htink this is the same reason that nanoloop and
<br\>lsdj
<br\>> > arent easy to buy anymore.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > So this takes care of rom sharing as well. Theres those gb
<br\>advance
<br\>> > flashers, but man the advance sound sucks.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > rivot
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
> VGM MIX TAPE #8
<br\>> Compilation CD ? Various Artists
<br\>> NS 08
<br\>> Street Date: November 11th, 2003
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> 2600 (New York, USA), HANDHELD (Illinois, USA), ICON/PRIX (Illinois, USA),
<br\>> KOMPUTERGURL (Ontario, CANADA), MMFAN316 (Fukuoka, JAPAN),
<br\>> FUTURE EATER (Melbourne, AUSTRALIA), HI-SCORE (Texas, USA), 4096
<br\>> (Ontario, CANADA), PANICSVILLE (Illinois, USA), AONAMI (Tokyo, JAPAN),
<br\>> NULLSLEEP (New York, USA),
<br\>> JEROEN TEL/MANIACS OF NOISE (Noord-Brabant, THE NETHERLANDS),
<br\>> GOTO80 (Goteborg, SWEDEN), TOM 7 ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM (Pennsylvania, USA),
<br\>> SPLASH FAKTOR 3 ARCADE SESSIONS (North Carolina, USA),
<br\>> KONG KARL LAND (Brugge, BELGIUM), EIGHT BT (Motala, SWEDEN),
<br\>> ROLE MODEL (Stockholm, SWEDEN), MAKUNOUCHI BENTO (Timisoara, ROMANIA),
<br\>> ROYAL SPACE FORCE (Illinois, USA), PRODUKT (Haninge, SWEDEN), COIN
<br\>> (Arizona, USA), YONNE VALTONEN (Turku, FINLAND), MODE 7 (Georgia,
<br\>> USA), MARK 4 (Illinois, USA),
<br\>> MULTI-MODAL (Illinois, USA), THE MINIBOSSES (Arizona, USA)
<br\>>
<br\>> SAVIORS OF THE VIDEO GAME MUSIC!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Welcome to the world of a genre of music that you might not realize
<br\>> exists. Featured on this compilation are 27 of today?s
<br\>> top-of-the-minute artists who utilize, in one way or another, a wide
<br\>> variety of video game systems and computers to create everything from
<br\>> slammin? electro-pop to spooky experimental pieces to all-out
<br\>> gabber-techno chaos. Even a 3-piece rock band appears on this disc,
<br\>> recreating compositions of one of the greatest and most influential
<br\>> video games of all time! You might not notice, but by the time this
<br\>> epic CD is finished, you?ve basically heard the musical history and
<br\>> evolution of the home video game console. Sources range from the Atari
<br\>> 2600 to the Turbograffix 16 to the Commodore 64 to the many music
<br\>> programs of the Game Boy, and even to the Speak & Spell!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Choosing to avoid the cheesy ?orchestral soundtracks? that accompany
<br\>> the home video games of the 21st  century and instead to emphasize the
<br\>> nostalgia of the 80?s and early 90?s styles of rocking, beat-oriented
<br\>> ?muzaks? that almost everybody involved with this project has grown up
<br\>> with, the VGM MIX TAPE #8 CD has been tightly crafted into a highly
<br\>> accessable and immensely exciting compilation that will engage the
<br\>> interests of both electronic and rock music fans AND video game
<br\>> enthusiasts alike.
<br\>>
<br\>> $10 post-paid in the U.S. Canadaian residents add $3. Europe and
<br\>> beyond add $5.
<br\>>
<br\>> Album cover will be in the "photos" section of this newsgroup. A track
<br\>> or 2 will be in the "files" section of this newsgroup.
<br\>>
<br\>> >>Check out an interview with No Sides Records CEO Billy Sides and Joe
<br\>> Majalca of ROYAL SPACE FORCE about the CD at the Game Zone Online
<br\>> Emporium. http://www.gamezone.com
<br\>>
<br\>> >>Check out a mini-article on THE MINIBOSSES in the newest issue of
<br\>> Stuff Gamer magazine, released earlier this month!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> No Sides Records
<br\>> P.O. Box 257491
<br\>> Chicago, IL 60625  USA
<br\>> http://www.nosides.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
LOL :)
<br\>
<br\>That was one of the better Off-Topic posts this list has seen in the
<br\>past months..apart from the sex-spam of course ;)
<br\>
<br\>tobe =^o^=
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>ps: i use my LSDj purely for myself and friends, and i'm still happy
<br\>with it, regardless of whether others get famous using it, or just join
<br\>the media-induced hype surrounding 8bit noise...i just couldn't care
<br\>less really. The gameboy still is a single-player device in my
<br\>eyes...if the hype lasts, we could ask johan to look into sega genesis
<br\>sound programing..the ym synth sounds pretty weird, too. not as
<br\>portable,tho
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
With this money, you can buy an Emerger, to upload you catridges etc.
<br\>And you can buy the rom for LSDJ.
<br\>
<br\>Greets,
<br\>
<br\>Kris
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "DC" <dcla2002@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:34 AM
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] Lsdj
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Hello there,
<br\>> I'm ready to pay $150-200 for lsdj.
<br\>> Ciao,
<br\>> dc
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
> less really. The gameboy still is a single-player device in my
<br\>> eyes...if the hype lasts, we could ask johan to look into sega
<br\>>genesis
<br\>> sound programing..the ym synth sounds pretty weird, too. not as
<br\>> portable,tho
<br\>
<br\>LSDj is for more than one person, get two copies and synchronize via
<br\>a standard link cable. It's a lot of fun to do live mode jams this
<br\>way. You can even go beyond that with a four player adapter, but it's
<br\>easy for the result to be some heavy pattern smashing ;D
<br\>
<br\>besides that, i don't think music applications for consoles are as
<br\>much fun. if you're going to make music at home anyway, sit down at
<br\>your computer or some synths. i've played LSDj on the t.v. with super
<br\>gameboy ... it's useful mostly for showing people how to do stuff ...
<br\>but if me and some friends are hanging out, it's usually more fun to
<br\>play tetris attacks or bomberman.
<br\>
<br\>also, it seems like johan is done programing music programs for video
<br\>game systems. but if you are excited enough about programing for the
<br\>sega genesis, you could make a tracker for it!
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan /
<br\>starPause
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello,
<br\>
<br\>I've updated my LSDj tutorials, a work in progress sanctioned by
<br\>famos 8bp r+d . . .
<br\>
<br\>http://gorehole.org/tute/
<br\>
<br\>besides the quickstart guide for getting entirely inexperienced
<br\>people making beats, i've added a lesson covering the basics of LSDj
<br\>and how to make a loop using all four sound channels. the information
<br\>covered is pretty much the same as what i did for my LSDj school
<br\>fliers, with updated graphics.
<br\>
<br\>like i said, these are still being refined, so let me know what you
<br\>find useful, confusing, mistakes, etc . . .
<br\>
<br\>thanks
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan /
<br\>starPause
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
so positive!
<br\>thank you  :)
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
> >     I'm here too.  That weekend there is an...um... Doctor
<br\>> > Who convention that... um... I'm going to be working at.  OH
<br\>> > GOD I can't believe I admitted that...
<br\>>
<br\>> d00d, I wanna hear the Doctor Who theme music recreated on LSDJ. Kinda
<br\>like
<br\>> the depeche mode megamix. But damn, that sounded like a lot of work. Plus,
<br\>> Orbital can't have ALL the fun...
<br\>
<br\>     That's been what I've wanted to do on the GB from the beginning... but
<br\>the time... the time...
<br\>
<br\>     I'm one of the people who could best benefit from having a TARDIS.  not
<br\>just because of the kicky time travel abilities, but of the infinite space
<br\>to store my junk.
<br\>
<br\>     Actually the BBC is supposed to be releasing an album in the next month
<br\>or so with various interpretations of the theme by different modern artists.
<br\>I'll bet Orbital's version is on there somewhere.
<br\>
<br\>     I remember finding some version of the theme done by "Celtic voices" or
<br\>something similar sounding, but never got to download it.  Anyone else eve
<br\>heard any other versions of the theme?
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Quite amazingly cool stuff I have to admit... I read some messages
<br\>first before diving in. So, since the carts are sold out, and there
<br\>is a long list of waiters, people have startedn burning off thir
<br\>carts to send to people, without nods to the original creator... Is
<br\>(Johan) going to create any more? It seems like it's a no, but I'm
<br\>not sure... I downloaded the demo rom, and of course want the full
<br\>version, in a portable gameboy pak... Like we all do... Just
<br\>wondered...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>     I remember finding some version of the theme done by "Celtic
<br\>voices" or
<br\>> something similar sounding, but never got to download it.  Anyone
<br\>else eve
<br\>> heard any other versions of the theme?
<br\>>
<br\>> - Bohus Blahut
<br\>>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>   modern filmmaker
<br\>
<br\>i've been working on a surf guitar arrangement of it. man...or
<br\>astroman? style, kinda. if only my band was a cohesive unit.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>   Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:36:05 -0000
<br\>>    From: "Kyle" <ropetechie@...>
<br\>>Subject: Another newbie intrusion...
<br\>>
<br\>>Quite amazingly cool stuff I have to admit... I read some messages
<br\>>first before diving in. So, since the carts are sold out, and there
<br\>>is a long list of waiters, people have startedn burning off thir
<br\>>carts to send to people, without nods to the original creator...
<br\>
<br\>Er, no.
<br\>Johan still sells the ROM, i.e. the software part only.
<br\>You've got to find your own backup gear then and you've got everything you
<br\>need.
<br\>
<br\>But I don't think anybody is selling the carts themselves.
<br\>First of all because in small communities like this one people usually
<br\>respect other people's work, especially when it's the work of the person
<br\>who created the musical intrument you use. I'm new to lsdj but I've been
<br\>using nanoloop for 2 or 3 years and I convinced a few people to buy it,
<br\>even when some of them just wanted to copy my cart. Pirating software by
<br\>microsoft or adobe is different than pirating software made by a small
<br\>independant developer (for various reasons and I won't start a discussion
<br\>about this, it's just a constatation, I'm not advocating the first option
<br\>btw).
<br\>
<br\>And anyway blank carts are the most difficult and expensive thing to find
<br\>(blank in the sense that they can be used with the backup gear whenever you
<br\>want, more like a disquette than a CD). The writers are cheap, the carts
<br\>are expensive.
<br\>
<br\>So, no, people don't burn and sell carts, though they sometimes sell the
<br\>one they bought (at least that's what I understood).
<br\>
<br\>>Is
<br\>>(Johan) going to create any more? It seems like it's a no, but I'm
<br\>>not sure... I downloaded the demo rom, and of course want the full
<br\>>version, in a portable gameboy pak... Like we all do... Just
<br\>>wondered...
<br\>
<br\>Buying a cart burner is the best option, that's what I did.
<br\>I'm going to get the software version soon, total cost for me : about 70
<br\>euros (and the cart writer will be sued for nanoloop too if I can manage to
<br\>make backups).
<br\>
<br\></daviD>
<br\>
<br\>"Simulating the true styles and making carefully !
<br\>   Many colours a lot, selected freely by you !"
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Where do you think the best place for an american is to buy a cart burner
<br\>(online or offline)?
<br\>
<br\>daviD <waveform@...> wrote:
<br\>>   Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:36:05 -0000
<br\>>    From: "Kyle" <ropetechie@...>
<br\>>Subject: Another newbie intrusion...
<br\>>
<br\>>Quite amazingly cool stuff I have to admit... I read some messages
<br\>>first before diving in. So, since the carts are sold out, and there
<br\>>is a long list of waiters, people have startedn burning off thir
<br\>>carts to send to people, without nods to the original creator...
<br\>
<br\>Er, no.
<br\>Johan still sells the ROM, i.e. the software part only.
<br\>You've got to find your own backup gear then and you've got everything you
<br\>need.
<br\>
<br\>But I don't think anybody is selling the carts themselves.
<br\>First of all because in small communities like this one people usually
<br\>respect other people's work, especially when it's the work of the person
<br\>who created the musical intrument you use. I'm new to lsdj but I've been
<br\>using nanoloop for 2 or 3 years and I convinced a few people to buy it,
<br\>even when some of them just wanted to copy my cart. Pirating software by
<br\>microsoft or adobe is different than pirating software made by a small
<br\>independant developer (for various reasons and I won't start a discussion
<br\>about this, it's just a constatation, I'm not advocating the first option
<br\>btw).
<br\>
<br\>And anyway blank carts are the most difficult and expensive thing to find
<br\>(blank in the sense that they can be used with the backup gear whenever you
<br\>want, more like a disquette than a CD). The writers are cheap, the carts
<br\>are expensive.
<br\>
<br\>So, no, people don't burn and sell carts, though they sometimes sell the
<br\>one they bought (at least that's what I understood).
<br\>
<br\>>Is
<br\>>(Johan) going to create any more? It seems like it's a no, but I'm
<br\>>not sure... I downloaded the demo rom, and of course want the full
<br\>>version, in a portable gameboy pak... Like we all do... Just
<br\>>wondered...
<br\>
<br\>Buying a cart burner is the best option, that's what I did.
<br\>I'm going to get the software version soon, total cost for me : about 70
<br\>euros (and the cart writer will be sued for nanoloop too if I can manage to
<br\>make backups).
<br\>
<br\></daviD>
<br\>
<br\>"Simulating the true styles and making carefully !
<br\>   Many colours a lot, selected freely by you !"
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
2003-10-26: v2.2.5
<br\>
<br\>  * improved support for firestarters upcoming MIDI device (latency reduced etc)
<br\>  * + some minor fixes
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I have been off the developing for a while, and has been sloppy on noting
<br\>people's requests meanwhile... I'd be happy to hear if there's anything you
<br\>would want to be fixed, except chord command support... (which I really hope to
<br\>implement some day)
<br\>
<br\>I'm also working on updating the documentation, something that has been way too
<br\>long overdue, hopefully there should be a new version here tonight:
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/documentation/
<br\>
<br\>Regards,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> Where do you think the best place for an american is to buy a
<br\>> cart burner (online or offline)?
<br\>
<br\>If they were in stock, http://success-hk.com. I've purchased from them two
<br\>or three times and loved it, but they're out of stock (essentially everyone
<br\>is currently) of the regular gb cart writers. I have no experience with the
<br\>gamejack, but that IS in stock.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
<br\>lsdj group:
<br\>
<br\>What version are you using?
<br\>
<br\>   o 1.0.x
<br\>   o 1.1.x
<br\>   o 1.2.x
<br\>   o 1.3.x
<br\>   o 1.4.x
<br\>   o 1.5.x
<br\>   o 2.0.x
<br\>   o 2.1.x
<br\>   o 2.2.x
<br\>   o not using the program/other
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>To vote, please visit the following web page:
<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Now that I've gotten that far on questions, has anyone here used
<br\>gamejack? Just wondered if it was reliable...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> we could ask johan to look into sega genesis
<br\>> sound programing..the ym synth sounds pretty weird, too. not as
<br\>> portable,tho
<br\>
<br\>Why not? There's always the SEGA Genesis Nomad :D
<br\>Just listen to Streets of Rage 2 for some mad sounding muzak.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>____ :: a k i r a _ K
<br\>/// k i k e n . c o r p o r a t i o n
<br\>______>>> <http://www.kikencorp.com> \\\\
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi, I want to start using LSDJ and have an original game boy.  All
<br\>of the LSDJ carts are sold out.  What should i do to get my hands on
<br\>one?  Does anyone want to sell me one?  Is it still possible to get
<br\>a writeable cartridge for the cart image on the website?
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Hi,
<br\>
<br\>this place might be an option for backup hardware: http://mynewdata.tripod.com/
<br\>
<br\>Regards,
<br\>Johan
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i have three carts, one has the newest version, and i have another one with the
<br\>chord command (i love it!)
<br\>and i forget the other one..
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I did some more research and found no$gmp which is an gb emulator
<br\>that most of you are probably familiar with.  no$gmb has an option
<br\>to write to a bung flash card.   I think some sort of a cart writer
<br\>is nesscary for me to use lsdj but the bung flash card isnt made
<br\>anymore.  What did you guys do to use lsdj?
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<br\>
> if the hype lasts, we could ask johan to look into sega genesis
<br\>> sound programing..the ym synth sounds pretty weird, too. not as
<br\>> portable,tho
<br\>
<br\>     The Sega was available in a portable version called the Nomad.  It is
<br\>highly rad.  It has a color backlit screen and plays full size Genesis
<br\>carts.  (I believe that it also works with the quizzical 32x Sega expansion,
<br\>though I've never tried it).  It would make a tremendous music making
<br\>platform, though I don't know of any way to dump your data from a Genesis
<br\>cart onto a PC or vice versa.  Also Nomad's are pretty rare and therefor
<br\>quite expensive.  I found mine at a thrift store for $10, but the screen is
<br\>cracked and doesn't work.
<br\>
<br\>     The main processor is a 68000 chip like in an Amiga.  I wonder if there
<br\>would be any benefit derived from using code from an Amiga tracker...
<br\>Probably none as they're... um... totally different machines...  :)
<br\>
<br\>     Still, I love the idea of busting out a Nomad to do some dope tunes.  I
<br\>don't think that there are any Genesis music programs.  there is a sort of
<br\>music sequencer in an SNES game.  Have we talked about that here?  It's
<br\>called Mario Paint.  There was even an album put out a few years back of
<br\>guys who did stuff only using Mario Paint.  It's really limited... It only
<br\>plays regular notes - no sharps or flats - has only a few instrument
<br\>choices, some of which are pigs and cows and stuff.  Still, pretty fun.
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
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<br\>
Well, in reality it may not be as portable but it sure is a whole lot more
<br\>portable than a lot of analog synths... Especially my Emax... I think having
<br\>small tv screen(s) connected to system(s), would actually be really cool, and
<br\>quite an odd setup... I think it would be awesome. Odd question to pose here as
<br\>I don't know what sort of response I'll get from the user group, but does anyone
<br\>know about KMFDM's Sidstation, the commodore 64 sound chip setup...?
<br\>
<br\>Bohus Blahut <bohus@...> wrote:
<br\>> if the hype lasts, we could ask johan to look into sega genesis
<br\>> sound programing..the ym synth sounds pretty weird, too. not as
<br\>> portable,tho
<br\>
<br\>     The Sega was available in a portable version called the Nomad.  It is
<br\>highly rad.  It has a color backlit screen and plays full size Genesis
<br\>carts.  (I believe that it also works with the quizzical 32x Sega expansion,
<br\>though I've never tried it).  It would make a tremendous music making
<br\>platform, though I don't know of any way to dump your data from a Genesis
<br\>cart onto a PC or vice versa.  Also Nomad's are pretty rare and therefor
<br\>quite expensive.  I found mine at a thrift store for $10, but the screen is
<br\>cracked and doesn't work.
<br\>
<br\>     The main processor is a 68000 chip like in an Amiga.  I wonder if there
<br\>would be any benefit derived from using code from an Amiga tracker...
<br\>Probably none as they're... um... totally different machines...  :)
<br\>
<br\>     Still, I love the idea of busting out a Nomad to do some dope tunes.  I
<br\>don't think that there are any Genesis music programs.  there is a sort of
<br\>music sequencer in an SNES game.  Have we talked about that here?  It's
<br\>called Mario Paint.  There was even an album put out a few years back of
<br\>guys who did stuff only using Mario Paint.  It's really limited... It only
<br\>plays regular notes - no sharps or flats - has only a few instrument
<br\>choices, some of which are pigs and cows and stuff.  Still, pretty fun.
<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>
You are probably reffering to this :)
<br\>
<br\>www.sidstation.com
<br\>
<br\>Elektron is discontinuing them (apparently due to shortage of SID chips) so
<br\>you better hurry if u really want one. Be aware that they've raised the
<br\>price for the last units. Look also for second hand material if available:
<br\>
<br\>>I'll get from the user group, but does anyone know about KMFDM's
<br\>> Sidstation, the commodore 64 sound chip setup...?
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I'm doing my last college year, and I'm supposed to do a project. I chose to
<br\>make a Gameboy(8-bit) game. Now I need people for testing and criticism, and
<br\>perhaps if someone could lend me a hand with graphics. Please note that I'm
<br\>not looking for newbies who think it sounds funny.
<br\>To avoid series of OT posts here, I've started a new yahoo mailing list
<br\>called gb_sp, join it if you're interested.
<br\>I'm looking for people who can give me honest criticism. I've already
<br\>invited j.0rdAn(Who seemed interested when I asked him some time ago), Bud
<br\>Melvin and over thrustr to the group.
<br\>For those of you who want to have a look, here's the first alpha version
<br\>(basically a moving sprite and a background) of the binary:
<br\>http://www2.hemsida.net/dtd/gbsp/
<br\>
<br\>Just think about it, this may be one the last 8-bit Gameboy programming
<br\>pojects ever...
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For what it's worth,
<br\>
<br\>I have the Gamejack, X-changer, and Transferer and by far the
<br\>Gamejack is my least favorite.  It will work but it temperamental
<br\>and can be very difficult to use if you are transferring larger
<br\>files.
<br\>Thankfully, the LSDJ file is small enough to rarely have problems.
<br\>The biggest issue I have with the Gamejack is the software
<br\>interface. It is absolutely awful and works off a dos platform.
<br\>If there is a better program available I'd love to hear about it.  I
<br\>still use the software it shipped with and I've had mine for about 3
<br\>years.
<br\>The Transferer works great, as does the X-changer. I've downloaded
<br\>3rd party software for both which make the interface much friendlier.
<br\>
<br\>I remember when I first got my Gamejack it took me a couple of days
<br\>to finally get it to work and it was an epiphany when it did.
<br\>
<br\>Good luck,
<br\>
<br\>morplett
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<br\>
Thanks for the tips.  All i want is the ability to use lsdj, because it sounds
<br\>sweet so i dont care to much about what transferer is used.  The only problem is
<br\>that I cant find any of the hardware on the net, its all out of stock.  Since
<br\>you seem to not like it, would you consider selling me your gamejack?  Is the
<br\>gamejack sufficient for the use of lsdj?  Also, What kind of cartridge do you
<br\>use/ recomend?
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Glen Guzik
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: morplett
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:59 AM
<br\>   Subject: [LSDj!] Re: Gamejack
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   For what it's worth,
<br\>
<br\>   I have the Gamejack, X-changer, and Transferer and by far the
<br\>   Gamejack is my least favorite.  It will work but it temperamental
<br\>   and can be very difficult to use if you are transferring larger
<br\>   files.
<br\>   Thankfully, the LSDJ file is small enough to rarely have problems.
<br\>   The biggest issue I have with the Gamejack is the software
<br\>   interface. It is absolutely awful and works off a dos platform.
<br\>   If there is a better program available I'd love to hear about it.  I
<br\>   still use the software it shipped with and I've had mine for about 3
<br\>   years.
<br\>   The Transferer works great, as does the X-changer. I've downloaded
<br\>   3rd party software for both which make the interface much friendlier.
<br\>
<br\>   I remember when I first got my Gamejack it took me a couple of days
<br\>   to finally get it to work and it was an epiphany when it did.
<br\>
<br\>   Good luck,
<br\>
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KMFDM? aaaarrrrgghh!
<br\>i think the sidstation is an elektron product
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Kyle Kelley <ropetechie@...> wrote:
<br\>Well, in reality it may not be as portable but it sure is a whole lot more
<br\>portable than a lot of analog synths... Especially my Emax... I think having
<br\>small tv screen(s) connected to system(s), would actually be really cool, and
<br\>quite an odd setup... I think it would be awesome. Odd question to pose here as
<br\>I don't know what sort of response I'll get from the user group, but does anyone
<br\>know about KMFDM's Sidstation, the commodore 64 sound chip setup...?
<br\>
<br\>Bohus Blahut <bohus@...> wrote:
<br\>> if the hype lasts, we could ask johan to look into sega genesis
<br\>> sound programing..the ym synth sounds pretty weird, too. not as
<br\>> portable,tho
<br\>
<br\>     The Sega was available in a portable version called the Nomad.  It is
<br\>highly rad.  It has a color backlit screen and plays full size Genesis
<br\>carts.  (I believe that it also works with the quizzical 32x Sega expansion,
<br\>though I've never tried it).  It would make a tremendous music making
<br\>platform, though I don't know of any way to dump your data from a Genesis
<br\>cart onto a PC or vice versa.  Also Nomad's are pretty rare and therefor
<br\>quite expensive.  I found mine at a thrift store for $10, but the screen is
<br\>cracked and doesn't work.
<br\>
<br\>     The main processor is a 68000 chip like in an Amiga.  I wonder if there
<br\>would be any benefit derived from using code from an Amiga tracker...
<br\>Probably none as they're... um... totally different machines...  :)
<br\>
<br\>     Still, I love the idea of busting out a Nomad to do some dope tunes.  I
<br\>don't think that there are any Genesis music programs.  there is a sort of
<br\>music sequencer in an SNES game.  Have we talked about that here?  It's
<br\>called Mario Paint.  There was even an album put out a few years back of
<br\>guys who did stuff only using Mario Paint.  It's really limited... It only
<br\>plays regular notes - no sharps or flats - has only a few instrument
<br\>choices, some of which are pigs and cows and stuff.  Still, pretty fun.
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
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>  * improved support for firestarters upcoming MIDI device (latency
<br\>>  * + some minor fixes
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>wow, whatever johan did to midi synch has made it work ROCK SOLID
<br\>with my old noisetrafic cable. i had ver2.2.5 on a gb color synched
<br\>to my ER-1 ... was throwing the tempo from 20 to 300 and back as
<br\>quickly as i could and LSDj followed perfectly. i used to also have
<br\>problems with LSDj loosing the synch when i soloed or muted parts ...
<br\>that doesn't seem to be a problem now either.
<br\>
<br\>so yeah thanks a lot johan ;D
<br\>
<br\>>anything you would want to be fixed, except chord command support...
<br\>>(which I really hope to implement some day)
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>yeah sorry for not shutting up about t hat
<br\>
<br\>j.0rdan /
<br\>starPause
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<br\>
hey,
<br\>
<br\>just thought i'd let some of you know what i've come up with so far, and
<br\>some of the options those who want to punch out the tunes on-the-go have.
<br\>http://www.lan-kwei.com/gbcE/ was posted a few weeks ago, and i've since
<br\>e-mailed them and they said "I am sorry to tell you that this item is out of
<br\>production, and sold out until further notice." The items i asked about were
<br\>GB transferer and GB 16m smart card.  Maybe a few of you got in on the
<br\>ground floor a week or two ago and bought them out - regardless I've since
<br\>then emailed http://mynewdata.tripod.com/ and have yet to hear from them. I
<br\>dont know if i'd buy from them anyway, their site looks a bit tricky my own
<br\>personal opinion though.
<br\>
<br\>SO, you could always go to http://www.success-sk.com and buy a GB bridge and
<br\>a flash-linker card, I dont own this type of setup so i'm not going to talk
<br\>about the pros and cons of it, however it is do able.
<br\>
<br\>AND, you could always buy a Plcc programmer and program your own chips then
<br\>solder them on to a super mario bros. 2 game. This is one of the options
<br\>i've looked deep into, and for the life of me i cannot find programmer that
<br\>would program the plccs for less than 200 bucks. http://www.batronix.com
<br\>sells a good usb programmer that would do the job with an adaptor, and a
<br\>less expensive model (around 80$ USD) the "homemade" Eprom Programmer  that
<br\>can only READ the 29F040 plcc but not PROGRAM it because of a hardware
<br\>algorithm. I bought the cheaper of the two, and found out too late. BUT,
<br\>some, and I repet some motherboards can probably flash this type of plcc,
<br\>I'm not going to get into that because there are so many different types of
<br\>mother boards, but the easyist way to find out if you have one is open up
<br\>your case and have a look. If you need more help then that you probably
<br\>don't need to look any deeper into that option. One more thing about the
<br\>motherboard option, i dont think there are any motherboards that can program
<br\>the 4mb you would need for LSDJ, but i could be wong. Anyone know?
<br\>
<br\>So you are all out of options, other than adding your name to the holly
<br\>grail of waiting lists, or buying the rom and emulating it. Did i just say
<br\>emulate? WHY that opens all sorts of possibilities.
<br\>http://www.dcemulation.com has a bunch of emulators that run off your
<br\>favorite hack-able consol DREAMCAST! DCgunboy is almost perfect, but it
<br\>cannot emulate the wave channel! However, their webpage:
<br\>http://gnuboy.unix-fu.org/ has the source code begging to be finished. I can
<br\>see unlimited possibilities here. #1 DC has a keyboard! #2 DC has a huge
<br\>memory card! it is possible to make several copies of lsdj on one cd and the
<br\>memory card will save each one as a different save file. There are also
<br\>nexus memory cards that can hook up to your computer extending your file
<br\>space. #3 The DC has a serial cable that would allow, with the proper
<br\>programming, two copies to link with each other, just like two gameboys.
<br\>Now the DC has its draw backs, it is not exactly portable, but i think its a
<br\>good option for people looking to get that gameboy-feel for LSDJ. Xbox also
<br\>has a GB emulator, but i dont own a xbox so i dont know what the project
<br\>development is like. Here is a home page of one:
<br\>http://xport.xbox-scene.com/ its called XBoyAdvance. With the xbox though
<br\>you are looking at another plcc programming job for a modchip to get it to
<br\>work.
<br\>
<br\>I own a pc-linker and a 16mb card. So, like most of you I'm looking to
<br\>better my self off with better hardware. I think MY best bet for live shows
<br\>is either buying a better plcc programmer and making my own carts, or
<br\>learning C++ and how to use KOS for the DC. Being an American i'll probably
<br\>just throw money at my problem and opt for a better plcc programmer.
<br\>
<br\>Anyway i hope this helps some of you looking for solutions to this gbackup
<br\>cart jeremiadh and gives new ideas to those looking to be a bit more
<br\>unique......
<br\>
<br\>Neil
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@...>
<br\>>Reply-To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>>Subject: [LSDj!] backup carts
<br\>>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:47:17 +0100
<br\>>
<br\>>Hi,
<br\>>
<br\>>this place might be an option for backup hardware:
<br\>>http://mynewdata.tripod.com/
<br\>>
<br\>>Regards,
<br\>>Johan
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ha ha, i think that i should be the next adam ant, i have the pirate costume
<br\>already. We are putting on a small micromusic party here in newcastle upon tyne
<br\>in the uk on 13 nov. I invited malcom just out of badness.
<br\>
<br\>talking about were the developers are going i would actually reccomend the gp32,
<br\>i have written a really shit mod player following some pseudocode i got and it
<br\>wasn't too hard I recon the next step would be a a working tracker, i recon goat
<br\>tracker would probably port ok ish or even brian's sound mon. But i cant see
<br\>myself ever having the time to be honest. But the thing that the gp has going
<br\>for it is 4 channels of 44.1 wav! a usb link and smartmedia memory, oh and it
<br\>has a genesis emu btw
<br\>
<br\>i still use my gb for lsdj because thats what it is for though.
<br\>
<br\>spoonbender
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: budmelvin
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:04 PM
<br\>   Subject: [LSDj!] R0MZ
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Hey folks,
<br\>
<br\>   The golden era of gameboy music will be soon over before it even
<br\>   began.  Just as people were finding out about LSDJ and nanoloop
<br\>   software, all production began moving to the GBA platform - even
<br\>   hobbiest coders are focusing on that now.
<br\>
<br\>   Add on top of that Nintendo's lawsuits against backup gear - why
<br\>   bother to take risks with old backup gear when so few people care
<br\>   about old GB anymore?  And from all accounts, the GB-bridge for GBA
<br\>   is buggy and I see little motivation for the company to get that
<br\>   working in the manner we've been used to with the XChanger and
<br\>   others.
<br\>
<br\>   Those of us who got things in time are truly lucky.  Eventually all
<br\>   that will be left for people is to use LSDJ in gb emulators on PC or
<br\>   even gb emulators on GBA or GP32.  Or it will go back to the truly
<br\>   hardcore to hack their own gb carts and transferrers as displayed at
<br\>   zieglers site as j.ordan mentioned earlier.
<br\>
<br\>   For people who actually bought a real cartridge from Johan, there is
<br\>   absolutely nothing wrong with selling it secondhand.  And if someone
<br\>   truly wants to pay a lot of money for it, let them.  If I wanted to
<br\>   sell my original 1.2 cart, I could charge $1000 for it and
<br\>   eventually someone who had money to burn would want it that bad.
<br\>
<br\>   For people selling the ROM, well eventually anything popular will be
<br\>   bootlegged, but this is especially wrong to do to the small guy.  On
<br\>   the other hand, if someone pays Johan for ROM access and someone
<br\>   else for creating the cart, that seems like a legitamte business
<br\>   transaction.
<br\>
<br\>   Malcom McClaren is definitely barking up the wrong tree.  However,
<br\>   if I win in the poll (I couldn't help but notice I was in the lead -
<br\>   and I didn't vote for myself) I do have some big plans for my new
<br\>   music career.
<br\>
<br\>   1. Sell my song to a car commercial
<br\>   2. Big advance from the record label
<br\>   3. Fashion makeover
<br\>   4. Expensive drug habit
<br\>   5. Acting like an asshole to everyone on this list who helped me get
<br\>   going in this music
<br\>   6. Near bankrupcy from drug addiction and debt back to record label
<br\>   7. Becoming a washed-up has-been trying to get media attention
<br\>   8. Write the story of my life and appear on bad talk shows
<br\>
<br\>   I expect steps 1-8 should take about 9 months to a year.
<br\>
<br\>   Sorry for the long post.
<br\>
<br\>   Peace and love,
<br\>
<br\>   Bud
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> talking about were the developers are going i would actually reccomend the
<br\>gp32, i have written a really shit mod player following some pseudocode i got
<br\>and it wasn't too hard I recon the next step would be a a working tracker, i
<br\>recon goat tracker would
<br\>
<br\>It definitely sounds nice.... I think the GBA isn't really cool when it comes to
<br\>sound for various reasons. I think it's really boring to have to write the
<br\>soundmixer yourself and especially to do a sound quality/CPU usage tradeoff...
<br\>It's just not that hot. I'm sure the GP32 is a lot better, but it sucks that not
<br\>very many people have it, the market is quite limited... Maybe the upcoming
<br\>portable Playstation would be a better choice...
<br\>
<br\>What would be relatively easy though would be to do a port of LSDJ, that just
<br\>implements all the features of the GB version flawlessly... But then it wouldn't
<br\>be that much of a gain. It's of course better to be able to run it on the old
<br\>boys, since they are so cheap. It would be nicer if I could find some factory
<br\>that could produce custom Gameboy cartridges for me, I think I might try to look
<br\>into that next year.
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> What would be relatively easy though would be to do a port of LSDJ, that
<br\>just implements all the features of the GB version flawlessly... But then it
<br\>wouldn't be that much of a gain. It's of
<br\>
<br\>I mean, port to GBA... duh.
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
You mean port LSDj to GBA ?? I would love soooo much to be able to run it on
<br\>my SP..;
<br\>Go johan go !!!!! we love you :)
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:09 PM
<br\>Subject: Re: [LSDj!] R0MZ
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> > What would be relatively easy though would be to do a port of LSDJ, that
<br\>> just implements all the features of the GB version flawlessly... But then
<br\>it
<br\>> wouldn't be that much of a gain. It's of
<br\>>
<br\>> I mean, port to GBA... duh.
<br\>>
<br\>> Johan
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
Aye,
<br\>
<br\>Agreed with j.ordan here, this backup shit has been always hard to come
<br\>by but NOT impossible. I was lucky enough to buy a pretty damn good
<br\>unit and now I want an extra cartridge but I'm stumped, I can't find
<br\>one, and I don't know if my flasher will write to other carts, because
<br\>these carts are special (the multirom menu selection thingy lies in a
<br\>ROM in the cart so I have the whole 64Mbit for myself). And buying the
<br\>LSDj ROM  was the best investment I have ever done in my bloody life. I
<br\>have NEVER gave any of the images to anyone, it just doesn't feel
<br\>right. I want to support Johan with this great program. I use LSDj
<br\>a-plenty but I'm still far from mastering it, I'm learning new things
<br\>everyday, it's brilliant.
<br\>
<br\>I really hope the ROM doesn't get spread mindlessly through millions of
<br\>romkiddies who don't give a fuck about Johan's work or what the program
<br\>is about (and just nab it to add to their massive "collection" of rom
<br\>shite) I thought this list was for LSDj owners only? (since I was
<br\>invited after I bought me ROM).
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>
<br\>____ :: a k i r a _ K
<br\>/// k i k e n . c o r p o r a t i o n
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> i have three carts, one has the newest version, and i have another one
<br\>> with the chord command (i love it!)
<br\>> and i forget the other one..
<br\>
<br\>Which version has the Chord command? Im using 3 instances of 2.1.5
<br\>
<br\>Cheers!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>____ :: a k i r a _ K
<br\>/// k i k e n . c o r p o r a t i o n
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<br\>


Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] My two pence on GB backup units, with links for purchase.

SubjectSrt:
My two pence on GB backup units, with links for purchase.

Message:
<br\>
I have seen many units but this little beaut works treats. I use an
<br\>e-merger GB Backup unit. I have a 64Mb cart (there is a 16Mb version
<br\>too), it has Real Time Clock (only cart with this shite for Pokemon
<br\>games) and a RoM in it that selects the software you run, thus leaving
<br\>you with the full 64Mbit for yourself. I have used this baby with LSDJ
<br\>and it works perfectly, I have stored 3 instances of LSDJ in one cart,
<br\>I think it can hodl up to 4 with 4 saves.
<br\>
<br\>Googleing for it came up with these shops:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.gocybershop.ca/product_details.asp?ID=182
<br\>http://www.mod-chip.net/accessories/nintendo_prod5.html
<br\>http://www.save2much.com/category/Gameboy
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Seems like they are stocking it ! I recommend the purchase of this unit
<br\>very much. And the PC-less COPY feature is nice, just put your original
<br\>cart in one slot and back it up to the flash cart without using the PC.
<br\>It wont overwrite the Flash cart, it will add it to the other software
<br\>in the list if there's enough space. Neat for those with original
<br\>LSDJs! And the price is tops. I bought mine for the same cash off
<br\>lik-Sang when they stored it.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Everyone, even those that do have a unit, should get this one, because
<br\>it's quite useful. I'm gonna get an extra card for my second gameboy.
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>/// k i k e n . c o r p o r a t i o n
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
A review for the unit, there should be more on google (newbies: use it
<br\>goddarnit!)
<br\>http://n64.icequake.net/mirror/64scener.parodius.com/gbaemger.htm
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Sorry about that... I just heard about it. I went to
<br\>the website and checked it out. I just didn;t know
<br\>anything about it. Now it's all cleared up. lol...
<br\>
<br\>--- ovr thrustr <peukjunkr@...> wrote:
<br\>> KMFDM? aaaarrrrgghh!
<br\>> i think the sidstation is an elektron product
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Kyle Kelley <ropetechie@...> wrote:
<br\>> Well, in reality it may not be as portable but it
<br\>> sure is a whole lot more portable than a lot of
<br\>> analog synths... Especially my Emax... I think
<br\>> having small tv screen(s) connected to system(s),
<br\>> would actually be really cool, and quite an odd
<br\>> setup... I think it would be awesome. Odd question
<br\>> to pose here as I don't know what sort of response
<br\>> I'll get from the user group, but does anyone know
<br\>> about KMFDM's Sidstation, the commodore 64 sound
<br\>> chip setup...?
<br\>>
<br\>> Bohus Blahut <bohus@...> wrote:
<br\>> > if the hype lasts, we could ask johan to look into
<br\>> sega genesis
<br\>> > sound programing..the ym synth sounds pretty
<br\>> weird, too. not as
<br\>> > portable,tho
<br\>>
<br\>>     The Sega was available in a portable version
<br\>> called the Nomad.  It is
<br\>> highly rad.  It has a color backlit screen and plays
<br\>> full size Genesis
<br\>> carts.  (I believe that it also works with the
<br\>> quizzical 32x Sega expansion,
<br\>> though I've never tried it).  It would make a
<br\>> tremendous music making
<br\>> platform, though I don't know of any way to dump
<br\>> your data from a Genesis
<br\>> cart onto a PC or vice versa.  Also Nomad's are
<br\>> pretty rare and therefor
<br\>> quite expensive.  I found mine at a thrift store for
<br\>> $10, but the screen is
<br\>> cracked and doesn't work.
<br\>>
<br\>>     The main processor is a 68000 chip like in an
<br\>> Amiga.  I wonder if there
<br\>> would be any benefit derived from using code from an
<br\>> Amiga tracker...
<br\>> Probably none as they're... um... totally different
<br\>> machines...  :)
<br\>>
<br\>>     Still, I love the idea of busting out a Nomad to
<br\>> do some dope tunes.  I
<br\>> don't think that there are any Genesis music
<br\>> programs.  there is a sort of
<br\>> music sequencer in an SNES game.  Have we talked
<br\>> about that here?  It's
<br\>> called Mario Paint.  There was even an album put out
<br\>> a few years back of
<br\>> guys who did stuff only using Mario Paint.  It's
<br\>> really limited... It only
<br\>> plays regular notes - no sharps or flats - has only
<br\>> a few instrument
<br\>> choices, some of which are pigs and cows and stuff.
<br\>> Still, pretty fun.
<br\>>
<br\>> - Bohus Blahut
<br\>>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
Does anyone know which version of the wiki engine is being used by
<br\>the lsdj wiki and where i can get it?  I would like to set up a wiki
<br\>on my school server.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> You mean port LSDj to GBA ?? I would love soooo much to be able to run it on
<br\>> my SP..;
<br\>> Go johan go !!!!! we love you :)
<br\>
<br\>Hm, but I think it's cooler to run it on the old Gameboy than the new ones, for
<br\>sure... and it's cheaper.
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey Johan,
<br\>
<br\>          When will you issue another batch of LSDj carts?  I would like to buy
<br\>a street leagal copy and not hack a copy as that would be rude.  Also this
<br\>will help you with your next project.  It is all a matter of respect and
<br\>supporting your genius.  Thanks in advance.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Sincerely,
<br\>Michael Mantra
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Keep on Keeping and Never Give Up
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi all,
<br\>
<br\>i've been following the discussion for a while and always thought -
<br\>hey, can't be that difficult.
<br\>
<br\>but today i checked the references - it's more serious than i thought:
<br\>lik-sang doesn't sell any backup-gear anymore, success-hk is out of
<br\>stock and ems seems to have stopped the production of transferer
<br\>products. ebay doesnt't tolerate beackup-gear so there is very few
<br\>chances to get some used.
<br\>
<br\>but hey! there is still the possibilities to get another product than
<br\>transferer or xchanger or to buy the ems-stuff at lan-kwei
<br\>(http://www.lan-kwei.com/gbcD/) expensive, but they have some in
<br\>stock.
<br\>
<br\>for all who want to test lsdj in an emulator: you can save songs by
<br\>making snapshots.
<br\>
<br\>good luck,
<br\>
<br\>berko
<br\>
<br\>who's looking forward to more instruments, more tables, the midi-
<br\>interface and [don't talk about ;)].
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>          When will you issue another batch of LSDj carts?  I would like to buy
<br\>> a street leagal copy and not hack a copy as that would be rude.  Also this
<br\>> will help you with your next project.  It is all a matter of respect and
<br\>> supporting your genius.  Thanks in advance.
<br\>
<br\>If you want to support the business, buy the ROM image and use it either with an
<br\>emulator or a backup device.
<br\>
<br\>If and when I have definite plans for making new cartridges, I promise I will
<br\>announce it on the list, on the web site, and to everyone on the waiting list.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks for asking,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks for the suggestion Johan.  So when are you issuing more carts?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>M.M.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Keep on Keeping and Never Give Up
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
2003-10-28: v2.2.6
<br\>
<br\>  * fixed bug that made it impossible to cut non-kit phrase notes to clipboard
<br\>properly.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I agree with that and I have no intention to trash mine... but sometime it
<br\>would be more practical/handy to use the SP. The ideal being the ability to
<br\>switch cart from one to the other.. maybe their timbre would also be nice if
<br\>u combine the two synched... I have'nt got a line out yet so I can't tell
<br\>really how the SP sounds (apart from the drum/wave problem).
<br\>
<br\>> Hm, but I think it's cooler to run it on the old Gameboy than the new
<br\>ones, for sure... and it's cheaper.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> or to buy the ems-stuff at lan-kwei
<br\>> (http://www.lan-kwei.com/gbcD/) expensive, but they have some in
<br\>> stock.
<br\>
<br\>Well.. i've asked few days ago about the ems stuff at lan-kwei but
<br\>unfortunately it's not avaiable.. that site is not updated at all, sucks...
<br\>i've browsed their site and compile a list of thing i wanted to buy but when
<br\>i've asked them, the only thing in stock was a parallel pc cable :(
<br\>i've just ordered the gamejack from success-hk
<br\>i hope to be able to work it out :)
<br\>i'll keep you all informed...
<br\>
<br\>.kruz  (ex-newbie)
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> 2003-10-28: v2.2.6
<br\>>
<br\>>  * fixed bug that made it impossible to cut non-kit phrase
<br\>> notes to clipboard properly.
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version
<br\>
<br\>I think you also neglected to mention that you've updated the documentation!
<br\>Yay!
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/documentation/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> just ordered the gamejack from success-hk i hope to be able
<br\>> to work it out :) i'll keep you all informed...
<br\>
<br\>That would rock. I hope that you're as happy with the service from success
<br\>as I have been in the past. Their EMS shipping really is quick! Much faster
<br\>than I'd ever expect something coming from HK to the US.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yo guys,
<br\>
<br\>as Johan released his update, which includes the new Midi-Functions, i
<br\>made a little Time-Board now, where you can see the Interface building
<br\>progress. Some changes happened in the last days, so it'll be a bit
<br\>delayed. Check the timetable at http://www.firestarter-music.de in the
<br\>Hardware section. I will also add a full feature list there very soon.
<br\>For those, who own a 'old' cardridge, which she/he can't update to a
<br\>new LSDJ-Version: There will be a compatible Mode, where you can also
<br\>use all functions as with versions later than v2.2.5. Only a bit less
<br\>comfortable.
<br\>
<br\>greets
<br\>
<br\>firestARTer ( who is also searching for one more cardridge, which i
<br\>can flash with the bung Xchanger )
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@l...> wrote:
<br\>> 2003-10-28: v2.2.6
<br\>>
<br\>>  * fixed bug that made it impossible to cut non-kit phrase notes to
<br\>clipboard properly.
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hello,
<br\>one of the resistors on my lsdj cart popped off the circuit board/  the
<br\>resistor was labeled 473 under the first resister in upper left hand corner.
<br\>   you should be able to see it through the plastic.  does anyone know what
<br\>might be the best way to go about repairing this? as of right now the cart
<br\>is dead.  i was thinking of just resodering it but i wasnt sure if i should
<br\>because the components are so small and i didnt want to damage it even
<br\>further.
<br\>
<br\>programnames
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
yeah gamepark are shit at promoting their gear. Also it is not quite the same as
<br\>the sort of culture jamming possibilities of writing a program that works on an
<br\>old grey, i.e you can pick them up for under a tenner here. The things that the
<br\>gp32 has going are the fact that it is open source, 166mhz arm processor, runs
<br\>SDL ! so no pissing about with writing your own libraries and shit. so on the
<br\>scale of it, it is better than a laptop but worse than a gameboy, I use mine to
<br\>sketch out tunes as it is so quick to transfer data and then finish them on my
<br\>GB.
<br\>
<br\>The person that is writing the tracker front end for the atari 2600 sequencer
<br\>also wrote the 2600 emu for the game park, i wounder if he could port the whole
<br\>thing over?
<br\>
<br\>Oh i got a reply from malcom, he said he wasn't going to be in newcastle at the
<br\>time of the party ;)
<br\>
<br\>Dominic
<br\>(no more gp32 stuff in this forum I promise, unless it is really usefull)
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Johan Kotlinski
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:16 AM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [LSDj!] R0MZ
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   > talking about were the developers are going i would actually reccomend the
<br\>gp32, i have written a really shit mod player following some pseudocode i got
<br\>and it wasn't too hard I recon the next step would be a a working tracker, i
<br\>recon goat tracker would
<br\>
<br\>   It definitely sounds nice.... I think the GBA isn't really cool when it comes
<br\>to sound for various reasons. I think it's really boring to have to write the
<br\>soundmixer yourself and especially to do a sound quality/CPU usage tradeoff...
<br\>It's just not that hot. I'm sure the GP32 is a lot better, but it sucks that not
<br\>very many people have it, the market is quite limited... Maybe the upcoming
<br\>portable Playstation would be a better choice...
<br\>
<br\>   What would be relatively easy though would be to do a port of LSDJ, that just
<br\>implements all the features of the GB version flawlessly... But then it wouldn't
<br\>be that much of a gain. It's of course better to be able to run it on the old
<br\>boys, since they are so cheap. It would be nicer if I could find some factory
<br\>that could produce custom Gameboy cartridges for me, I think I might try to look
<br\>into that next year.
<br\>
<br\>   Johan
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Message:
<br\>
If it got 3 pins and 473 then it should be a zener diode 4V7.
<br\>I don't got the cart in front of me at the moment, so i just can
<br\>guess. If you got no practise in SMD soldering, you should let
<br\>exchange the diode by somebody who know about it, cause once a pad is
<br\>damaged, it's getting more difficult.
<br\>
<br\>greets
<br\>
<br\>firestARTer
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "smootyboy smootyboy" <smootyboy@h...> wrote:
<br\>> hello,
<br\>> one of the resistors on my lsdj cart popped off the circuit board/  the
<br\>> resistor was labeled 473 under the first resister in upper left hand
<br\>corner.
<br\>>   you should be able to see it through the plastic.  does anyone
<br\>know what
<br\>> might be the best way to go about repairing this? as of right now
<br\>the cart
<br\>> is dead.  i was thinking of just resodering it but i wasnt sure if i
<br\>should
<br\>> because the components are so small and i didnt want to damage it even
<br\>> further.
<br\>>
<br\>> programnames
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www25.brinkster.com/digitalcloud/home.html
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, mmantra@m... wrote:
<br\>> Thanks for the suggestion Johan.  So when are you issuing more carts?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Hello?
<br\>
<br\>Are you reading??? :P
<br\>
<br\>____ :: a k i r a _ K
<br\>/// k i k e n . c o r p o r a t i o n
<br\>______>>> <http://www.kikencorp.com>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> but today i checked the references - it's more serious than i thought:
<br\>> lik-sang doesn't sell any backup-gear anymore, success-hk is out of
<br\>> stock and ems seems to have stopped the production of transferer
<br\>> products. ebay doesnt't tolerate beackup-gear so there is very few
<br\>> chances to get some used.
<br\>?
<br\>
<br\>I posted an option before, which is none of the units mentioned here, and that
<br\>works
<br\>bloody well (been using LSDj for a year or so with it), and most importantly,
<br\>seems to
<br\>be in stock in the links I have placed.
<br\>
<br\>Check back some messages. Everyone should get an emerger set! :D
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>
<br\>____ :: a k i r a _ K
<br\>/// k i k e n . c o r p o r a t i o n
<br\>______>>> <http://www.kikencorp.com>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, akira_mark2 wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> > but today i checked the references - it's more serious than i thought:
<br\>> > lik-sang doesn't sell any backup-gear anymore, success-hk is out of
<br\>> > stock and ems seems to have stopped the production of transferer
<br\>> > products. ebay doesnt't tolerate beackup-gear so there is very few
<br\>> > chances to get some used.
<br\>> ?
<br\>>
<br\>> I posted an option before, which is none of the units mentioned here,
<br\>> and that works bloody well (been using LSDj for a year or so with it),
<br\>> and most importantly, seems to be in stock in the links I have placed.
<br\>>
<br\>> Check back some messages. Everyone should get an emerger set! :D
<br\>
<br\>You can vouch for the emerger's reliability? I found one here:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.easybuy2000.com/store/nintendo%20accessories/emerger.shtml for
<br\>$109
<br\>
<br\>cheers
<br\>
<br\>w
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yea, I guess I'll have to order from them too... I was
<br\>hoping to find another route considering all the bad
<br\>reviews...
<br\>
<br\>--- kruz@... wrote:
<br\>> > or to buy the ems-stuff at lan-kwei
<br\>> > (http://www.lan-kwei.com/gbcD/) expensive, but
<br\>> they have some in
<br\>> > stock.
<br\>>
<br\>> Well.. i've asked few days ago about the ems stuff
<br\>> at lan-kwei but
<br\>> unfortunately it's not avaiable.. that site is not
<br\>> updated at all, sucks...
<br\>> i've browsed their site and compile a list of thing
<br\>> i wanted to buy but when
<br\>> i've asked them, the only thing in stock was a
<br\>> parallel pc cable :(
<br\>> i've just ordered the gamejack from success-hk
<br\>> i hope to be able to work it out :)
<br\>> i'll keep you all informed...
<br\>>
<br\>> .kruz  (ex-newbie)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
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<br\>
hey,
<br\>I have one of these, and can vouch that it works. I have been using it for
<br\>slightly over a year. There are a few niggles that I have but nothing
<br\>serious. for example it only works on one of my computers, the P133 that I
<br\>never got around to upgrading from windows 95. so I need to keep an old
<br\>ass computer around. the software is a little unintuitive but it works.
<br\>the nice thing is that the cart has a rom selector built in so you can fit
<br\>4 copys of lsdj on the 16 meg cart.
<br\>
<br\>alright. enjoy.
<br\>
<br\>jon/voltrex/.out.
<br\>
<br\>On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, wallace winfrey wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, akira_mark2 wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > > but today i checked the references - it's more serious than i thought:
<br\>> > > lik-sang doesn't sell any backup-gear anymore, success-hk is out of
<br\>> > > stock and ems seems to have stopped the production of transferer
<br\>> > > products. ebay doesnt't tolerate beackup-gear so there is very few
<br\>> > > chances to get some used.
<br\>> > ?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I posted an option before, which is none of the units mentioned here,
<br\>> > and that works bloody well (been using LSDj for a year or so with it),
<br\>> > and most importantly, seems to be in stock in the links I have placed.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Check back some messages. Everyone should get an emerger set! :D
<br\>>
<br\>> You can vouch for the emerger's reliability? I found one here:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.easybuy2000.com/store/nintendo%20accessories/emerger.shtml for
<br\>> $109
<br\>>
<br\>> cheers
<br\>>
<br\>> w
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
i feel like discussion of the gamepark is on topic enough, since people here all
<br\>seem
<br\>to be interested in either portable music or at least trackers on different
<br\>video game
<br\>consoles ...
<br\>
<br\>when you look at the price of a gameboy + cart writer you're going to spend
<br\>around
<br\>$100. a gp32 (which uses flash cards so no writer is needed) w/o backlighting
<br\>costs
<br\>about the same. the backlit version of the gb32 costs a bit more ... and can be
<br\>compared to an SP and 128 meg card (~200$)
<br\>
<br\>i agree with johan that writing a new tracker for gameboy advance just to be
<br\>able to
<br\>load in more, high quality  samples isn't very cool. especially with the midi
<br\>cable
<br\>comming out, synch LSDj to an ES-1 or something ;D ...
<br\>
<br\>however, if a port is reletivly easy, i would love to see it. i know the kit
<br\>channel is
<br\>implemented a bit differently ... and i'm sure some other things would have to
<br\>change, but being able to have multiple copies of LSDj( that saves correctly ;)
<br\>on my
<br\>gba cart would rule! aditionally, the size restrictiong on GBA carts is _huge_
<br\>compared  to the old gameboy cards ... like 4 megs is the smallest produced cart
<br\>(i
<br\>wont even mention any featuers that could be implemented with that sort of space
<br\>;)!
<br\>the standard save size is also much larger ... so it may be easy to have more
<br\>tables/
<br\>etc.
<br\>
<br\>gba carts are also easier to get. although, it would kind of just be getting one
<br\>step
<br\>ahead of the game. evntually i'm sure "the industry" will drop gba carts when
<br\>the next
<br\>thing hits. finding a factory to manufacture lsdj for the classic gameboys would
<br\>be
<br\>awesome.
<br\>
<br\>as far as features ... one thing i think LSDj could really benefit from is some
<br\>sort of
<br\>small map that indicates where in the program you are. i know there is no screen
<br\>space for it right now, but i think that sort of feedback would really help
<br\>people
<br\>navigate the program easier. even though i use the program almost every day, i
<br\>still
<br\>wind up feeling lost and mashing on SELECT+DIRECTION once in a while.
<br\>
<br\>to the guys who are running LSDj on gp32 using an emulator . . . how well does
<br\>the
<br\>button layout work for you? the gp32 looks like is suffers from the same poor
<br\>positioning of the start and select buttons. are there emulators that allow you
<br\>to map
<br\>those keys to the L+R buttons? is the sound emulation up to par? are there any
<br\>trackers for c64 that would be usable with limited keys? it seems there's a lot
<br\>that
<br\>could happen on this platform . .. ..
<br\>
<br\>anyway, /end rave
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "d hotmail" <dsmithpa@h...> wrote:
<br\>> yeah gamepark are shit at promoting their gear. Also it is not quite the same
<br\>as the
<br\>sort of culture jamming possibilities of writing a program that works on an old
<br\>grey,
<br\>i.e you can pick them up for under a tenner here. The things that the gp32 has
<br\>going
<br\>are the fact that it is open source, 166mhz arm processor, runs SDL ! so no
<br\>pissing
<br\>about with writing your own libraries and shit. so on the scale of it, it is
<br\>better than a
<br\>laptop but worse than a gameboy, I use mine to sketch out tunes as it is so
<br\>quick to
<br\>transfer data and then finish them on my GB.
<br\>>
<br\>> The person that is writing the tracker front end for the atari 2600 sequencer
<br\>also
<br\>wrote the 2600 emu for the game park, i wounder if he could port the whole thing
<br\>over?
<br\>>
<br\>> Oh i got a reply from malcom, he said he wasn't going to be in newcastle at
<br\>the
<br\>time of the party ;)
<br\>>
<br\>> Dominic
<br\>> (no more gp32 stuff in this forum I promise, unless it is really usefull)
<br\>>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>>   From: Johan Kotlinski
<br\>>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>   Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:16 AM
<br\>>   Subject: Re: [LSDj!] R0MZ
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   > talking about were the developers are going i would actually reccomend the
<br\>gp32, i have written a really shit mod player following some pseudocode i got
<br\>and it
<br\>wasn't too hard I recon the next step would be a a working tracker, i recon goat
<br\>tracker would
<br\>>
<br\>>   It definitely sounds nice.... I think the GBA isn't really cool when it
<br\>comes to sound
<br\>for various reasons. I think it's really boring to have to write the soundmixer
<br\>yourself
<br\>and especially to do a sound quality/CPU usage tradeoff... It's just not that
<br\>hot. I'm
<br\>sure the GP32 is a lot better, but it sucks that not very many people have it,
<br\>the
<br\>market is quite limited... Maybe the upcoming portable Playstation would be a
<br\>better
<br\>choice...
<br\>>
<br\>>   What would be relatively easy though would be to do a port of LSDJ, that
<br\>just
<br\>implements all the features of the GB version flawlessly... But then it wouldn't
<br\>be that
<br\>much of a gain. It's of course better to be able to run it on the old boys,
<br\>since they
<br\>are so cheap. It would be nicer if I could find some factory that could produce
<br\>custom
<br\>Gameboy cartridges for me, I think I might try to look into that next year.
<br\>>
<br\>>   Johan
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Message:
<br\>
where's jonkie when you need him?!
<br\>
<br\>i know that he just re soldered a serface mount diode on one of his carts that
<br\>got
<br\>trashed . ..
<br\>
<br\>so at least it's possible to save it ;D
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "smootyboy smootyboy" <smootyboy@h...> wrote:
<br\>> hello,
<br\>> one of the resistors on my lsdj cart popped off the circuit board/  the
<br\>> resistor was labeled 473 under the first resister in upper left hand corner.
<br\>>   you should be able to see it through the plastic.  does anyone know what
<br\>> might be the best way to go about repairing this? as of right now the cart
<br\>> is dead.  i was thinking of just resodering it but i wasnt sure if i should
<br\>> because the components are so small and i didnt want to damage it even
<br\>> further.
<br\>>
<br\>> programnames
<br\>>
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Subject:
caveats of using FA and gb bridge in old grey boys?

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caveats of using FA and gb bridge in old grey boys?

Message:
<br\>
so are there any problems encountered when using a
<br\>flash advance usb card through a gb bridge in the old
<br\>grey boys?  are saves stable?  i have a windows xp
<br\>system also, curious if the software works with xp?
<br\>
<br\>also, the gbemerge looks interesting.  again, will it
<br\>work with windows xp, and can you send games and save
<br\>data to the PC and from the PC to the card, or only
<br\>from original card to copy?
<br\>
<br\>thanks all!
<br\>sigh... if only bung were still around...
<br\>
<br\>seth
<br\>www.cyndustries.com
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Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] caveats of using FA and gb bridge in old grey boys?

Message:
<br\>
hey there.
<br\>I have not been able to get the emerger working on an xp system yet. I
<br\>think that somewhere on this list someone said something about a dll that I
<br\>needed. if that person is still around can you tell me again.
<br\>
<br\>also, didn't this list use to discourage all the questions about cart
<br\>writers>? I remember being directed to the wiki. which I have updated to
<br\>include information about the emerger. information which would have
<br\>answered all the questions asked so far about it with all the answers that
<br\>I am able to provide.
<br\>
<br\>ok.
<br\>
<br\>ALSO so that nobody has to get a separate email filling up their box. if
<br\>you are in pittsburgh, you can check out my gameboy band on two separate
<br\>occasions this weekend. email me back for locations. and check out some of
<br\>our music on www.handface.com
<br\>BYUYUYU!
<br\>
<br\>JONATHAN>BRODSKY?>VOLTRESK.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--On Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:43 PM -0800 denshi
<br\><denshiblocks@...> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> so are there any problems encountered when using a
<br\>> flash advance usb card through a gb bridge in the old
<br\>> grey boys?  are saves stable?  i have a windows xp
<br\>> system also, curious if the software works with xp?
<br\>>
<br\>> also, the gbemerge looks interesting.  again, will it
<br\>> work with windows xp, and can you send games and save
<br\>> data to the PC and from the PC to the card, or only
<br\>> from original card to copy?
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks all!
<br\>> sigh... if only bung were still around...
<br\>>
<br\>> seth
<br\>> www.cyndustries.com
<br\>>
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Subject:
RE: [LSDj!] Re: cartridge repair: help please!

Message:
<br\>
> i know that he just re soldered a serface mount diode on one
<br\>> of his carts that got
<br\>> trashed . ..
<br\>>
<br\>> so at least it's possible to save it ;D
<br\>
<br\>Yeah, if you're going to do SMD repair, first spend a few bucks and buy one
<br\>of those SMD soldering practice kits. Anyone that sells the little
<br\>electronics learning kits should have at least one.
<br\>
<br\>You'll at least learn if you're confident enough in your soldering skills to
<br\>attempt it on your LSDJ cart.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So i decided to try using the pclinker as my backup unit. cost 43
<br\>bucks total.  Now all i need is the gameboy and of course a copy of
<br\>lsdj.  Total price should be about $90.  Oh well its just money.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
you are right about the cost comparison, its not to different. plus check out
<br\>all the emulators, my fave is frodo a c64 emulator, oh and nesticle a nes emu
<br\>plus a genesis and sms emu. there is a sid player and loads of mod players, an
<br\>ogg player, a ym emu. millions of mp3 players, a divx player that is so smooth.
<br\>it even emulates the atari st! oh and ports of doom and hexen.
<br\>
<br\>a new GB emu has just come out with crystal sound, but does not play samples for
<br\>some reason, bummer, however, it is the first release and in an early beta stage
<br\>so i am sure that will be fixed soon. I would stick with the gb for now but
<br\>things are getting better.
<br\>
<br\>Just writing a tracker that uses samples would be a bit lame i think, which is
<br\>why goat tracker would be ideal or even nerdtracker.
<br\>
<br\>You can run other trackers in ither emulators, but the main problem is input.
<br\>They all have virtual keyboards but that takes forever. LSDj has the jump as it
<br\>is specifically written for use with a joypad.
<br\>
<br\>also if you port it to the gba i can't see it being that hard to port to the gp,
<br\>the dev kit for the gp is just a hack of the one for the gba! You could write
<br\>the first tracker for this community as well.
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: starpawz612
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 PM
<br\>   Subject: [LSDj!] gamepark thread
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   i feel like discussion of the gamepark is on topic enough, since people here
<br\>all seem
<br\>   to be interested in either portable music or at least trackers on different
<br\>video game
<br\>   consoles ...
<br\>
<br\>   when you look at the price of a gameboy + cart writer you're going to spend
<br\>around
<br\>   $100. a gp32 (which uses flash cards so no writer is needed) w/o backlighting
<br\>costs
<br\>   about the same. the backlit version of the gb32 costs a bit more ... and can
<br\>be
<br\>   compared to an SP and 128 meg card (~200$)
<br\>
<br\>   i agree with johan that writing a new tracker for gameboy advance just to be
<br\>able to
<br\>   load in more, high quality  samples isn't very cool. especially with the midi
<br\>cable
<br\>   comming out, synch LSDj to an ES-1 or something ;D ...
<br\>
<br\>   however, if a port is reletivly easy, i would love to see it. i know the kit
<br\>channel is
<br\>   implemented a bit differently ... and i'm sure some other things would have to
<br\>   change, but being able to have multiple copies of LSDj( that saves correctly
<br\>;) on my
<br\>   gba cart would rule! aditionally, the size restrictiong on GBA carts is _huge_
<br\>   compared  to the old gameboy cards ... like 4 megs is the smallest produced
<br\>cart (i
<br\>   wont even mention any featuers that could be implemented with that sort of
<br\>space ;)!
<br\>   the standard save size is also much larger ... so it may be easy to have more
<br\>tables/
<br\>   etc.
<br\>
<br\>   gba carts are also easier to get. although, it would kind of just be getting
<br\>one step
<br\>   ahead of the game. evntually i'm sure "the industry" will drop gba carts when
<br\>the next
<br\>   thing hits. finding a factory to manufacture lsdj for the classic gameboys
<br\>would be
<br\>   awesome.
<br\>
<br\>   as far as features ... one thing i think LSDj could really benefit from is
<br\>some sort of
<br\>   small map that indicates where in the program you are. i know there is no
<br\>screen
<br\>   space for it right now, but i think that sort of feedback would really help
<br\>people
<br\>   navigate the program easier. even though i use the program almost every day, i
<br\>still
<br\>   wind up feeling lost and mashing on SELECT+DIRECTION once in a while.
<br\>
<br\>   to the guys who are running LSDj on gp32 using an emulator . . . how well does
<br\>the
<br\>   button layout work for you? the gp32 looks like is suffers from the same poor
<br\>   positioning of the start and select buttons. are there emulators that allow
<br\>you to map
<br\>   those keys to the L+R buttons? is the sound emulation up to par? are there any
<br\>   trackers for c64 that would be usable with limited keys? it seems there's a
<br\>lot that
<br\>   could happen on this platform . .. ..
<br\>
<br\>   anyway, /end rave
<br\>   j.ordan
<br\>
<br\>   --- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "d hotmail" <dsmithpa@h...> wrote:
<br\>   > yeah gamepark are shit at promoting their gear. Also it is not quite the
<br\>same as the
<br\>   sort of culture jamming possibilities of writing a program that works on an
<br\>old grey,
<br\>   i.e you can pick them up for under a tenner here. The things that the gp32 has
<br\>going
<br\>   are the fact that it is open source, 166mhz arm processor, runs SDL ! so no
<br\>pissing
<br\>   about with writing your own libraries and shit. so on the scale of it, it is
<br\>better than a
<br\>   laptop but worse than a gameboy, I use mine to sketch out tunes as it is so
<br\>quick to
<br\>   transfer data and then finish them on my GB.
<br\>   >
<br\>   > The person that is writing the tracker front end for the atari 2600
<br\>sequencer also
<br\>   wrote the 2600 emu for the game park, i wounder if he could port the whole
<br\>thing
<br\>   over?
<br\>   >
<br\>   > Oh i got a reply from malcom, he said he wasn't going to be in newcastle at
<br\>the
<br\>   time of the party ;)
<br\>   >
<br\>   > Dominic
<br\>   > (no more gp32 stuff in this forum I promise, unless it is really usefull)
<br\>   >   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   >   From: Johan Kotlinski
<br\>   >   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   >   Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:16 AM
<br\>   >   Subject: Re: [LSDj!] R0MZ
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   > talking about were the developers are going i would actually reccomend
<br\>the
<br\>   gp32, i have written a really shit mod player following some pseudocode i got
<br\>and it
<br\>   wasn't too hard I recon the next step would be a a working tracker, i recon
<br\>goat
<br\>   tracker would
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   It definitely sounds nice.... I think the GBA isn't really cool when it
<br\>comes to sound
<br\>   for various reasons. I think it's really boring to have to write the
<br\>soundmixer yourself
<br\>   and especially to do a sound quality/CPU usage tradeoff... It's just not that
<br\>hot. I'm
<br\>   sure the GP32 is a lot better, but it sucks that not very many people have it,
<br\>the
<br\>   market is quite limited... Maybe the upcoming portable Playstation would be a
<br\>better
<br\>   choice...
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   What would be relatively easy though would be to do a port of LSDJ, that
<br\>just
<br\>   implements all the features of the GB version flawlessly... But then it
<br\>wouldn't be that
<br\>   much of a gain. It's of course better to be able to run it on the old boys,
<br\>since they
<br\>   are so cheap. It would be nicer if I could find some factory that could
<br\>produce custom
<br\>   Gameboy cartridges for me, I think I might try to look into that next year.
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   Johan
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Message:
<br\>
5:58:13 PM
<br\>Hello lsdj,
<br\>
<br\>   anybody had a positive contact to
<br\>   www.mrflash.com
<br\>   ??
<br\>
<br\>   Id love to buy a pocket voice unit, but they dont respond to my
<br\>   emails:/
<br\>
<br\>   Does anybody know where to find a pocket voice ?
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>Best regards,
<br\>  mileZ            48milz@... , 76670433
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> You can vouch for the emerger's reliability? I found one here:
<br\>
<br\>sure as hell I do, otherwise I wouldn't recommend it here. Been using it for
<br\>more than
<br\>a year, and for now, it holds 3 copies of LSDj in my 64Mb cart. I don't think I
<br\>can fit
<br\>more than 4, because of SRAM restrictions, but if it wasn't for SRAM I would
<br\>have the
<br\>whole thing filled with LSDjs :P
<br\>
<br\>The flasher unit works fine on my P3-866 running win98. The interface is a bit
<br\>cack
<br\>to get used to, but the hardware works flawlessly.
<br\>
<br\>I recommend it to everyone! Those who have the LSDj cart version will apreciate
<br\>the
<br\>PC-less backup option (fast!)
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
> I think that somewhere on this list someone
<br\>> said something about a dll that I needed.
<br\>> if that person is still around can you tell me again.
<br\>
<br\>You probably mean the GiveIO driver, which can be found here;
<br\>
<br\>http://www.bottledlight.com/tools.html
<br\>
<br\>/F
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> Just writing a tracker that uses samples would be a bit lame i
<br\>>think, which is why goat tracker would be ideal or even nerdtracker.
<br\>
<br\>i think a sample tracker would be cool. since it would be so easy to
<br\>load samples into it on the flash cards i could see a fun community
<br\>sprung up for compos and the like ...
<br\>
<br\>but true, even better would be something like a 6 channel tracker
<br\>that was sort of modular like buzz, you could run whatever you wanted
<br\>on each channel ... i'm sure some low-cpu synths would be just as
<br\>feasible to write as sample playback.
<br\>
<br\>since goat and nerd tracker are for pc and the gp32 doesn't emulate
<br\>pc, they seem like bad canidates ...
<br\>
<br\>honestly, most of this talk is just silly. as far as making music
<br\>goes, i love LSDj and don't need another hand held tracker. while i
<br\>would <3 a few new features that i've already brought up, LSDj is
<br\>already an awesome tool. the updated midi stuff has once again
<br\>sparked my interest in combining LSDj with other gear, and i think
<br\>that's going to keep me busy for a while ;D
<br\>
<br\>the only reason i've been thinking about writing another tracker is
<br\>that i'd like a fun programing project to do ... and i'd i feel like
<br\>doing something other people will find useful.
<br\>
<br\>however, when i really thought about it, i realized that really good
<br\>documentation for LSDj would help a lot more people than yet another
<br\>obscure tracker. so that's what i've been working on with my
<br\>tutorials.
<br\>
<br\>and school has provided me with enough coding projects to keep me
<br\>busy as well ... SOOOOO
<br\>
<br\>yeah.
<br\>
<br\><3 LSDj
<br\>
<br\>j.0rdan /
<br\>starPause
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> also if you port it to the gba i can't see it being that hard to
<br\>>port to the gp, the dev kit for the gp is just a hack of the one for
<br\>>the gba! You could write the first tracker for this community as
<br\>
<br\>i honestly don't see the benefit of porting LSDj to the gp32,
<br\>especially with the gb emu under way. also, getting it to midi synch
<br\>using a gp32 would be a whole new problem.
<br\>
<br\>a port to the gba could use the same midi synching, from the sounds
<br\>of it almost all the same code, and would provide an (albiet more
<br\>expensive) _avalible_, solid system for people to use LSDj on. there
<br\>may even be some other benefits like being able to have multiple
<br\>copies on one cart and more space . . . etc ... that i already said.
<br\>
<br\>also like i said, i've been using LSDj on my SP since my gameboy
<br\>light broke. for me, the trade off of not being able to use the kit
<br\>instruments is worth having a really nice lit up screen. the SP is
<br\>designed so well, it's hard to get over. i can just set it down next
<br\>to my drum machine and easily see what LSDj is playing. i can mute
<br\>and unmute without picking the gb up, with one hand (although being
<br\>able to use an external keybaord for mute/unmute would be easier, i
<br\>can't synch to a drum machine AND the keyboard haha) ... i dunno, i'm
<br\>in heaven and have been enjoying making a bunch of wanky RAVE tracks
<br\>for 2 german net labels and 1 cdr one ... hopefully out soon ;D
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan /
<br\>starPause
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I don't know much about the gp32 but I can tell you the killer app that
<br\>would make me buy one. it would be a samplebased tracker, that would be
<br\>specifically designed for the keylayout of the gp32. it would also need to
<br\>be able to sample realtime without extra hardware other than an imic or
<br\>similar usb audio interface. I don't know if that is possible or not, but
<br\>if it was I would buy that right now.
<br\>
<br\>it would be the ghettoest hiphop kit ever.
<br\>
<br\>WOOT.
<br\>
<br\>--On Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:02 PM +0000 starpawz612
<br\><starpawz612@...> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>>> Just writing a tracker that uses samples would be a bit lame i
<br\>>> think, which is why goat tracker would be ideal or even nerdtracker.
<br\>>
<br\>> i think a sample tracker would be cool. since it would be so easy to
<br\>> load samples into it on the flash cards i could see a fun community
<br\>> sprung up for compos and the like ...
<br\>>
<br\>> but true, even better would be something like a 6 channel tracker
<br\>> that was sort of modular like buzz, you could run whatever you wanted
<br\>> on each channel ... i'm sure some low-cpu synths would be just as
<br\>> feasible to write as sample playback.
<br\>>
<br\>> since goat and nerd tracker are for pc and the gp32 doesn't emulate
<br\>> pc, they seem like bad canidates ...
<br\>>
<br\>> honestly, most of this talk is just silly. as far as making music
<br\>> goes, i love LSDj and don't need another hand held tracker. while i
<br\>> would <3 a few new features that i've already brought up, LSDj is
<br\>> already an awesome tool. the updated midi stuff has once again
<br\>> sparked my interest in combining LSDj with other gear, and i think
<br\>> that's going to keep me busy for a while ;D
<br\>>
<br\>> the only reason i've been thinking about writing another tracker is
<br\>> that i'd like a fun programing project to do ... and i'd i feel like
<br\>> doing something other people will find useful.
<br\>>
<br\>> however, when i really thought about it, i realized that really good
<br\>> documentation for LSDj would help a lot more people than yet another
<br\>> obscure tracker. so that's what i've been working on with my
<br\>> tutorials.
<br\>>
<br\>> and school has provided me with enough coding projects to keep me
<br\>> busy as well ... SOOOOO
<br\>>
<br\>> yeah.
<br\>>
<br\>> <3 LSDj
<br\>>
<br\>> j.0rdan /
<br\>> starPause
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] oops more Re: gamepark thread

Message:
<br\>
dude those arent ravey you need more eight notes
<br\>constatn eight notes make it ravey
<br\>
<br\>-overthruster
<br\>
<br\>starpawz612 <starpawz612@...> wrote:
<br\>> also if you port it to the gba i can't see it being that hard to
<br\>>port to the gp, the dev kit for the gp is just a hack of the one for
<br\>>the gba! You could write the first tracker for this community as
<br\>
<br\>i honestly don't see the benefit of porting LSDj to the gp32,
<br\>especially with the gb emu under way. also, getting it to midi synch
<br\>using a gp32 would be a whole new problem.
<br\>
<br\>a port to the gba could use the same midi synching, from the sounds
<br\>of it almost all the same code, and would provide an (albiet more
<br\>expensive) _avalible_, solid system for people to use LSDj on. there
<br\>may even be some other benefits like being able to have multiple
<br\>copies on one cart and more space . . . etc ... that i already said.
<br\>
<br\>also like i said, i've been using LSDj on my SP since my gameboy
<br\>light broke. for me, the trade off of not being able to use the kit
<br\>instruments is worth having a really nice lit up screen. the SP is
<br\>designed so well, it's hard to get over. i can just set it down next
<br\>to my drum machine and easily see what LSDj is playing. i can mute
<br\>and unmute without picking the gb up, with one hand (although being
<br\>able to use an external keybaord for mute/unmute would be easier, i
<br\>can't synch to a drum machine AND the keyboard haha) ... i dunno, i'm
<br\>in heaven and have been enjoying making a bunch of wanky RAVE tracks
<br\>for 2 german net labels and 1 cdr one ... hopefully out soon ;D
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan /
<br\>starPause
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Yeah,
<br\>I think I'll be in Sheffield (South Yorshire) area
<br\>from the 17-29 of nov. Any body wanna rock out....
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Message:
<br\>
I showed up to someone's show late, and missed all the 8-bit action.
<br\>However, from a polite distance, I looked at the cart being used, and I
<br\>suspect it was nanoloop instead of LSDJ.
<br\>
<br\>But the whole point I'm trying to get to, is if you recently opened for
<br\>Broken Spindles in Kansas City, MO, I'd like to get in touch with you...
<br\>
<br\>David Goth
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
na dont get me wrong I wouldn't port it to the game park either, there is no
<br\>point, it was just worth a mention.
<br\>
<br\>I think a sample tracker would be quite easy with good effects and the like. I
<br\>just think that the first tracker to come out has to be unique, much like lsdj.
<br\>I am concerned that if there is going to be development of other handheld
<br\>trackers that they exploit the unique quality of the machine they work on, you
<br\>could get a cheep palm and run griff if you want a sample tracker type thing.
<br\>However yea maybe that should be the thing to do to get more interest.
<br\>
<br\>anyway, keep on tracking.
<br\>
<br\>oh one last thing, if anyone on the list lives in the north UK, we are having a
<br\>party on 13 Nov at the side cinema in newcastle. Email me for more info or visit
<br\>micromusic and look at the events, it should be going up today, Newbleep and
<br\>video home training are playing.
<br\>
<br\>spoony
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: starpawz612
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:11 PM
<br\>   Subject: [LSDj!] oops more Re: gamepark thread
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   > also if you port it to the gba i can't see it being that hard to
<br\>   >port to the gp, the dev kit for the gp is just a hack of the one for
<br\>   >the gba! You could write the first tracker for this community as
<br\>
<br\>   i honestly don't see the benefit of porting LSDj to the gp32,
<br\>   especially with the gb emu under way. also, getting it to midi synch
<br\>   using a gp32 would be a whole new problem.
<br\>
<br\>   a port to the gba could use the same midi synching, from the sounds
<br\>   of it almost all the same code, and would provide an (albiet more
<br\>   expensive) _avalible_, solid system for people to use LSDj on. there
<br\>   may even be some other benefits like being able to have multiple
<br\>   copies on one cart and more space . . . etc ... that i already said.
<br\>
<br\>   also like i said, i've been using LSDj on my SP since my gameboy
<br\>   light broke. for me, the trade off of not being able to use the kit
<br\>   instruments is worth having a really nice lit up screen. the SP is
<br\>   designed so well, it's hard to get over. i can just set it down next
<br\>   to my drum machine and easily see what LSDj is playing. i can mute
<br\>   and unmute without picking the gb up, with one hand (although being
<br\>   able to use an external keybaord for mute/unmute would be easier, i
<br\>   can't synch to a drum machine AND the keyboard haha) ... i dunno, i'm
<br\>   in heaven and have been enjoying making a bunch of wanky RAVE tracks
<br\>   for 2 german net labels and 1 cdr one ... hopefully out soon ;D
<br\>
<br\>   j.ordan /
<br\>   starPause
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Message:
<br\>
Hi there,
<br\>
<br\>I and some other people are currently doing a school project on
<br\>usability and interface design. The goal with our project is to
<br\>analyse and redesign LSDj, to hopefully make it a better product from
<br\>the users perspective. To be able to do the project, we need to find
<br\>some users in the Stockholm area that are interested in helping out.
<br\>What we practically want, is to do an interview and also do a session
<br\>where we observe how you use the program. Hopefully in the end this
<br\>can give new ideas to make the program a lot better.
<br\>
<br\>If you are interested in helping out, or know anyone that might be,
<br\>please send me a mail off-list (preferably ASAP as the project is to
<br\>be finished in a matter of weeks). And oh yes, we are also interested
<br\>in interviewing people that are using competiting products like
<br\>Nanoloop...
<br\>
<br\>Thankful for help,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yeah i'll never get my beat genres worked out.
<br\>
<br\>10 PRINT "SETH IS MY GOD"
<br\>11 GOTO 10
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, ovr thrustr <peukjunkr@y...> wrote:
<br\>> dude those arent ravey you need more eight notes
<br\>> constatn eight notes make it ravey
<br\>>
<br\>> -overthruster
<br\>> > able to use an external keybaord for mute/unmute would be easier,
<br\>i
<br\>> can't synch to a drum machine AND the keyboard haha) ... i dunno,
<br\>i'm
<br\>> in heaven and have been enjoying making a bunch of wanky RAVE
<br\>tracks
<br\>> for 2 german net labels and 1 cdr one ... hopefully out soon ;D
<br\>>
<br\>> j.ordan /
<br\>> starPause
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi there,
<br\>
<br\>I am considering a change in the clone functionality... The idea is, when
<br\>cloning a chain, not only clone the chain but also the phrases inside the chain.
<br\>The motivation for this would be to avoid keeping backlinks to older phrases,
<br\>and thus start modifying old stuff by accident. One drawback would be that this
<br\>is more memory hungry, and would also lead to more work in cases where you
<br\>actually want to re-use the same phrase in many chains...
<br\>
<br\>Thankful for comments and ideas for alternative approaches...
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Both ways of working make sense... as default, I would prefer the actual
<br\>implementation but maybe you can have both of 'em.
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:19 PM
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] clone chain functionality
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Hi there,
<br\>>
<br\>> I am considering a change in the clone functionality... The idea is, when
<br\>cloning a chain, not only clone the chain but also the phrases inside the
<br\>chain. The motivation for this would be to avoid keeping backlinks to older
<br\>phrases, and thus start modifying old stuff by accident. One drawback would
<br\>be that this is more memory hungry, and would also lead to more work in
<br\>cases where you actually want to re-use the same phrase in many chains...
<br\>>
<br\>> Thankful for comments and ideas for alternative approaches...
<br\>>
<br\>> Johan
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
Johan,
<br\>
<br\>Is there a technical reason for not going further down than C3 ? I just love
<br\>the raw grain it gets on very low notes but sometimes I'm stuck cos I start
<br\>on C3 and can't get further down ;)
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>M-.-n
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "M-.-n" <nostromo@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 3:13 PM
<br\>Subject: Re: [LSDj!] clone chain functionality
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Both ways of working make sense... as default, I would prefer the actual
<br\>> implementation but maybe you can have both of 'em.
<br\>>
<br\>> ----- Original Message -----
<br\>> From: "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@...>
<br\>> To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:19 PM
<br\>> Subject: [LSDj!] clone chain functionality
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > Hi there,
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I am considering a change in the clone functionality... The idea is,
<br\>when
<br\>> cloning a chain, not only clone the chain but also the phrases inside the
<br\>> chain. The motivation for this would be to avoid keeping backlinks to
<br\>older
<br\>> phrases, and thus start modifying old stuff by accident. One drawback
<br\>would
<br\>> be that this is more memory hungry, and would also lead to more work in
<br\>> cases where you actually want to re-use the same phrase in many chains...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Thankful for comments and ideas for alternative approaches...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Johan
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
<br\>> > lsdj-unsubscribe@egroups.com
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
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Message:
<br\>
Hi there,
<br\>
<br\>yes, the C3 is the lowest possible note... but maybe you can get it down a
<br\>little further with the pitch command...
<br\>
<br\>Btw, I suggest you change the name in your mail client. Your mails are filtered
<br\>away as spam here...
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ok.. thanks.. That is soo wierd for the header... you mean the M-.-n thingy
<br\>?
<br\>Let's try with another one ;)
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:39 PM
<br\>Subject: Re: [LSDj!] Lower than C3 ?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Hi there,
<br\>>
<br\>> yes, the C3 is the lowest possible note... but maybe you can get it down a
<br\>little further with the pitch command...
<br\>>
<br\>> Btw, I suggest you change the name in your mail client. Your mails are
<br\>filtered away as spam here...
<br\>>
<br\>> Cheers,
<br\>> Johan
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
AGH! I THINK
<br\>that is a great idea
<br\>
<br\>OVERTHRUSTER
<br\>
<br\>Johan Kotlinski <johan@...> wrote:
<br\>Hi there,
<br\>
<br\>I am considering a change in the clone functionality... The idea is, when
<br\>cloning a chain, not only clone the chain but also the phrases inside the chain.
<br\>The motivation for this would be to avoid keeping backlinks to older phrases,
<br\>and thus start modifying old stuff by accident. One drawback would be that this
<br\>is more memory hungry, and would also lead to more work in cases where you
<br\>actually want to re-use the same phrase in many chains...
<br\>
<br\>Thankful for comments and ideas for alternative approaches...
<br\>
<br\>Johan
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Message:
<br\>
yes, you can get it down further with pitch
<br\>and with "chords" in tables at least four notes or so
<br\>i htink
<br\>
<br\>overhrtusttrr
<br\>
<br\>n0s <nostromo@...> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>ok.. thanks.. That is soo wierd for the header... you mean the M-.-n thingy
<br\>?
<br\>Let's try with another one ;)
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:39 PM
<br\>Subject: Re: [LSDj!] Lower than C3 ?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Hi there,
<br\>>
<br\>> yes, the C3 is the lowest possible note... but maybe you can get it down a
<br\>little further with the pitch command...
<br\>>
<br\>> Btw, I suggest you change the name in your mail client. Your mails are
<br\>filtered away as spam here...
<br\>>
<br\>> Cheers,
<br\>> Johan
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
It's a very good idea, can't count the times I fucked up an old phrase because I
<br\>forgot to clone it. Of course once something's destroyed and you're obligated to
<br\>remake it it often get's better. So maybe you should make the new improvement
<br\>buggy or something .. hey why not a randomized bug-function in the project
<br\>screen????
<br\>ah anyway, just wanted to say I like the new idea :-)
<br\>
<br\>Lo-bat.
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Johan Kotlinski
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:19 PM
<br\>   Subject: [LSDj!] clone chain functionality
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Hi there,
<br\>
<br\>   I am considering a change in the clone functionality... The idea is, when
<br\>cloning a chain, not only clone the chain but also the phrases inside the chain.
<br\>The motivation for this would be to avoid keeping backlinks to older phrases,
<br\>and thus start modifying old stuff by accident. One drawback would be that this
<br\>is more memory hungry, and would also lead to more work in cases where you
<br\>actually want to re-use the same phrase in many chains...
<br\>
<br\>   Thankful for comments and ideas for alternative approaches...
<br\>
<br\>   Johan
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hi johan!
<br\>
<br\>it's great to have you making updates and thinking of new features again!
<br\>:)
<br\>
<br\>i think this "clone recursive" idea is a good one, but i'd hate to have it
<br\>replace the current functionality.  like you said, this will eat memory like
<br\>there's no tomorrow (for instance, if i have a chain that goes 00-01-01-01
<br\>and i clone it with the new idea, i'd get 02-03-04-05, right?  not
<br\>02-03-03-03?)
<br\>
<br\>all i'm trying to say is that it's really not so hard to just quickly clone
<br\>the patterns i don't want to overwrite (which isn't to say that i haven't
<br\>made the painful mistake of forgetting to do this and messing up an older
<br\>pattern later in a song!)
<br\>
<br\>a new set of keypresses for the alternative clone command would be nice, but
<br\>i can't really think of anything close to SEL+(B - A) that's not already
<br\>taken.  can you have the program detect a "double-click" on the select
<br\>button?  for instance, press select once, let it go, then press it down
<br\>again and hold for the new command?
<br\>
<br\>-simon
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@...>
<br\>>Reply-To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>>Subject: [LSDj!] clone chain functionality
<br\>>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:19:16 +0100
<br\>>
<br\>>Hi there,
<br\>>
<br\>>I am considering a change in the clone functionality... The idea is, when
<br\>>cloning a chain, not only clone the chain but also the phrases inside the
<br\>>chain. The motivation for this would be to avoid keeping backlinks to older
<br\>>phrases, and thus start modifying old stuff by accident. One drawback would
<br\>>be that this is more memory hungry, and would also lead to more work in
<br\>>cases where you actually want to re-use the same phrase in many chains...
<br\>>
<br\>>Thankful for comments and ideas for alternative approaches...
<br\>>
<br\>>Johan
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<br\>
I don't know if the memory trade off would ever be worth it either way it
<br\>worked.
<br\>I clone phrases for a completely different reason that I clone chains. If I
<br\>am cloning a chain it is because I want to have a new chord progression.
<br\>this does not require me to have new phrases in the chains. I personally
<br\>find that I am always running out of chains.
<br\>
<br\>so johan, if you do add this functionality, could you make it optional?
<br\>like something I can change in the preferences screen?
<br\>
<br\>thanks! and thanks for starting to add new functionality.
<br\>
<br\>--On Sunday, November 2, 2003 4:23 PM -0500 simon h <lo_phi@...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> hi johan!
<br\>>
<br\>> it's great to have you making updates and thinking of new features again!
<br\>>  :)
<br\>>
<br\>> i think this "clone recursive" idea is a good one, but i'd hate to have
<br\>> it  replace the current functionality.  like you said, this will eat
<br\>> memory like  there's no tomorrow (for instance, if i have a chain that
<br\>> goes 00-01-01-01  and i clone it with the new idea, i'd get 02-03-04-05,
<br\>> right?  not  02-03-03-03?)
<br\>>
<br\>> all i'm trying to say is that it's really not so hard to just quickly
<br\>> clone  the patterns i don't want to overwrite (which isn't to say that i
<br\>> haven't  made the painful mistake of forgetting to do this and messing up
<br\>> an older  pattern later in a song!)
<br\>>
<br\>> a new set of keypresses for the alternative clone command would be nice,
<br\>> but  i can't really think of anything close to SEL+(B - A) that's not
<br\>> already  taken.  can you have the program detect a "double-click" on the
<br\>> select  button?  for instance, press select once, let it go, then press
<br\>> it down  again and hold for the new command?
<br\>>
<br\>> -simon
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>> From: "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@...>
<br\>>> Reply-To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>> To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>>> Subject: [LSDj!] clone chain functionality
<br\>>> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:19:16 +0100
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Hi there,
<br\>>>
<br\>>> I am considering a change in the clone functionality... The idea is,
<br\>>> when  cloning a chain, not only clone the chain but also the phrases
<br\>>> inside the  chain. The motivation for this would be to avoid keeping
<br\>>> backlinks to older  phrases, and thus start modifying old stuff by
<br\>>> accident. One drawback would  be that this is more memory hungry, and
<br\>>> would also lead to more work in  cases where you actually want to re-use
<br\>>> the same phrase in many chains...
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Thankful for comments and ideas for alternative approaches...
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Johan
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<br\>
> i think this "clone recursive" idea is a good one, but i'd hate to
<br\>> replace the current functionality.  like you said, this will eat >
<br\>
<br\>i agree, recursive cloneing sounds nice, and at first when i used
<br\>clone i was confused as to why it wouldn't also clone the phrases in
<br\>a chain.
<br\>
<br\>however, now that i've used it a lot, i like clone as it is quite a
<br\>bit.
<br\>
<br\>>taken.  can you have the program detect a "double-click" on the
<br\>> button?  for instance, press select once, let it go, then press it
<br\>> again and hold for the new command?
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>that sounds like a great idea, and i think it should be
<br\>implementable ... like, when selecting a lot you have to keep tapping
<br\>b ...
<br\>
<br\>all in all ... if recursive clone can't be added without destroying
<br\>the old clone, i would rather have the old clone.
<br\>
<br\>i'm also very happy that johan is considering these issues and
<br\>hacking at LSDj again ;D
<br\>
<br\>ok!
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi everyone,
<br\>
<br\>the first week of this month sees two releases from members of the
<br\>colon pipe krew!
<br\>
<br\>first is material by k9d on 20kbps, a label that brings the world
<br\>many _techno_ and _concept_ releases, all in very compact file sizes
<br\>(very low quality mp3s ;)! if you do not know the wonders of this
<br\>label, prepare yourself ;D ... k9d's release, JPEG_SEKZ, is live
<br\>gameboy synchronized to live er-1. eat it up, 13 minutes in 5 megs:
<br\>
<br\>http://20kbps.sofapause.ch/index2.htm
<br\>
<br\>and while you're over there in deutschland, be sure to hit up some
<br\>classic colon traxxx on the v/a "minneapolis ep" put out by the
<br\>uran97 net label . . . but i warn you, this is mostly pc made stuff,
<br\>not any gameboy action, also watch out for all the sickly looking
<br\>girls plastered on the site!
<br\>
<br\>http://www.uran97.com/music.php
<br\>
<br\>ok, that's it ... keep hakin tracks ;D
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
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Message:
<br\>
> so johan, if you do add this functionality, could you make it optional?
<br\>> like something I can change in the preferences screen?
<br\>
<br\>Hi there! Yep, it looks like it would be best to make it optional... We can try
<br\>around with it a little, and after a while we could have a poll to decide which
<br\>makes the best default.
<br\>
<br\>> thanks! and thanks for starting to add new functionality.
<br\>
<br\>Main reason is that I started to use the program again, after a long time... :)
<br\>
<br\>Johan
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Message:
<br\>
im new to this, i dont even have the full ROM version, im wondering
<br\>if there will ever be more cartridges made, do any of you know?
<br\>and, is the site updated regularly?
<br\>well, post back,
<br\>thx,
<br\>n0x
<br\>


Subject:
new LSDj tute: editing NOISE INSTRUMENT, intro to commands in the PHRASE

SubjectSrt:
new LSDj tute: editing NOISE INSTRUMENT, intro to commands in the PHRASE

Message:
<br\>
hey all, i finished another LSDj tutorial on the subjects covered in
<br\>the subject. like i said, i'm taking these really slow as i want them
<br\>to be able to walk _anyone_ through using LSDj, maybe even kids ;D
<br\>
<br\>i'm looking for feedback, so if you're getting into LSDj, please let
<br\>me know if these make sense and what else you'd be interested in
<br\>learning about.
<br\>
<br\>if you're an old timer, i'd really apprecaite it if you would run
<br\>over what i've done. maybe you can think of a better way to explain
<br\>something, or will catch some glareing error i made ;D ... thanks 2
<br\>beetpoopr for checking my ass a few times!!!
<br\>
<br\>ok, here's the url:
<br\>
<br\>http://gorehole.org/tute/02/index.html
<br\>
<br\>thanks!
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>
<br\>also, big props to johan for updating the docs!!!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "xk_n0x" <noxb3@h...> wrote:
<br\>> im new to this, i dont even have the full ROM version, im
<br\>wondering
<br\>> if there will ever be more cartridges made, do any of you know?
<br\>> and, is the site updated regularly?
<br\>> well, post back,
<br\>> thx,
<br\>> n0x
<br\>
<br\>even though i've just been playing around with the demo until my pc-
<br\>linker gets here, so i'm still a newbie, i find this annoying. try
<br\>reading the front page:
<br\>
<br\>"This discussion place is primarily meant for Little Sound Dj
<br\>users.
<br\>
<br\>***Please, don't ask questions about when new cartridges will be
<br\>produced, as they will NOT be answered here.***
<br\>
<br\>Also, before posting questions about Game Boy backup gear, please
<br\>consider searching the message archive and reading the Wiki pages at
<br\>http://wiki.littlesounddj.com."
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>
<br\>p.s. of course i made the mistake of doing that last bit, but hey,
<br\>nobody's perfect.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey guys,
<br\>
<br\>looks like there are new Flash Cardridges in stock!!
<br\>Hong Kong Toys just have the Xchanger + 64MB Cart (60$) in their list
<br\>again and with a *new* sign. They also sell the PC-Linker
<br\>  with a 16mb cart (40$ ).
<br\>http://ps2modchip.com/
<br\>
<br\>And i might also have found some german deliverer for the 64M Mr.
<br\>Flash cart. Seems also like he still got some in stock. They are with
<br\>99 Euro a bit expensive, but it's still cheaper for me, cause i don't
<br\>have to pay the western union transfer and shipping. So it might be a
<br\>good possibillity for european people.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.shop.baumann-computer.de/
<br\>
<br\>I ordered one there. When it arrives, i will post again.
<br\>
<br\>greets
<br\>
<br\>firestARTer :-)
<br\>


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<br\>
or get a c64 midi cart off ebay, and a star commander
<br\>lead download the triad midislave prog and save it to
<br\>a c64 disc, load it in your c64 and bingo you have
<br\>midi controll of your sid chip. I have 3 :) for a lot
<br\>less than a sid station. Only problem is carrying them
<br\>to gigs ha ha, my discs got xrayed when I played in
<br\>london and most of my data got wiped AAAAGh
<br\>
<br\>BTW this method also works well for running
<br\>cybertracker on your c64, it's too cool for school.
<br\>
<br\>spoony
<br\>I promise to keep on topic in future with subjects
<br\>like, stop asking for carts and burn your own. Or how
<br\>to track 80's power ballads in LSDj :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>  --- "M-.-n" <nostromo@...> wrote: > You are
<br\>probably reffering to this :)
<br\>>
<br\>> www.sidstation.com
<br\>>
<br\>> Elektron is discontinuing them (apparently due to
<br\>> shortage of SID chips) so
<br\>> you better hurry if u really want one. Be aware that
<br\>> they've raised the
<br\>> price for the last units. Look also for second hand
<br\>> material if available:
<br\>>
<br\>> >I'll get from the user group, but does anyone know
<br\>> about KMFDM's
<br\>> > Sidstation, the commodore 64 sound chip setup...?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>
You should try out M64 for the C64 instead. A whole lot more powerful than
<br\>Midislave. It's like a script language where you can assign small scripts
<br\>to events like "note down" and use the values from
<br\>pitchbend/modulationwheel in just any way you want. ....like, steering the
<br\>filter with the modulationwheel and changing filtermode with C-1,C#1,D-1..
<br\>and that kinda thingz..
<br\>
<br\>Sorry to be off topic here...
<br\>
<br\>At 16:16 2003-11-04 +0000, you wrote:
<br\>>or get a c64 midi cart off ebay, and a star commander
<br\>>lead download the triad midislave prog and save it to
<br\>>a c64 disc, load it in your c64 and bingo you have
<br\>>midi controll of your sid chip. I have 3 :) for a lot
<br\>>less than a sid station. Only problem is carrying them
<br\>>to gigs ha ha, my discs got xrayed when I played in
<br\>>london and most of my data got wiped AAAAGh
<br\>>
<br\>>BTW this method also works well for running
<br\>>cybertracker on your c64, it's too cool for school.
<br\>>
<br\>>spoony
<br\>>I promise to keep on topic in future with subjects
<br\>>like, stop asking for carts and burn your own. Or how
<br\>>to track 80's power ballads in LSDj :)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>  --- "M-.-n" <nostromo@...> wrote: > You are
<br\>>probably reffering to this :)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > www.sidstation.com
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Elektron is discontinuing them (apparently due to
<br\>> > shortage of SID chips) so
<br\>> > you better hurry if u really want one. Be aware that
<br\>> > they've raised the
<br\>> > price for the last units. Look also for second hand
<br\>> > material if available:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >I'll get from the user group, but does anyone know
<br\>> > about KMFDM's
<br\>> > > Sidstation, the commodore 64 sound chip setup...?
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
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Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] NEW FLASH CARDS AND XCHANGER

Message:
<br\>
Hey!
<br\>this seems really great!
<br\>Has any one ordered from HKT before?
<br\>are they reliable?
<br\>does any one know what kinda shippingcosts we are talking here?
<br\>i was thinking the flashcard and the Xchanger..
<br\>they are the most compatible tools arnt they?
<br\>hmm..
<br\>well yes! i hope this will solve it for me..
<br\>thanx firestarter!
<br\>/salkin
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: "toemmes76" <firestarter@...>
<br\>>Reply-To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>Subject: [LSDj!] NEW FLASH CARDS AND XCHANGER
<br\>>Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:18:40 -0000
<br\>>
<br\>>Hey guys,
<br\>>
<br\>>looks like there are new Flash Cardridges in stock!!
<br\>>Hong Kong Toys just have the Xchanger + 64MB Cart (60$) in their list
<br\>>again and with a *new* sign. They also sell the PC-Linker
<br\>>  with a 16mb cart (40$ ).
<br\>>http://ps2modchip.com/
<br\>>
<br\>>And i might also have found some german deliverer for the 64M Mr.
<br\>>Flash cart. Seems also like he still got some in stock. They are with
<br\>>99 Euro a bit expensive, but it's still cheaper for me, cause i don't
<br\>>have to pay the western union transfer and shipping. So it might be a
<br\>>good possibillity for european people.
<br\>>
<br\>>http://www.shop.baumann-computer.de/
<br\>>
<br\>>I ordered one there. When it arrives, i will post again.
<br\>>
<br\>>greets
<br\>>
<br\>>firestARTer :-)
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>
m64? cooolio. I'm looking for it right now.
<br\>
<br\>spoony
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Mats Andrén
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:42 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [LSDj!] R0MZ <genesis>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   You should try out M64 for the C64 instead. A whole lot more powerful than
<br\>   Midislave. It's like a script language where you can assign small scripts
<br\>   to events like "note down" and use the values from
<br\>   pitchbend/modulationwheel in just any way you want. ....like, steering the
<br\>   filter with the modulationwheel and changing filtermode with C-1,C#1,D-1..
<br\>   and that kinda thingz..
<br\>
<br\>   Sorry to be off topic here...
<br\>
<br\>   At 16:16 2003-11-04 +0000, you wrote:
<br\>   >or get a c64 midi cart off ebay, and a star commander
<br\>   >lead download the triad midislave prog and save it to
<br\>   >a c64 disc, load it in your c64 and bingo you have
<br\>   >midi controll of your sid chip. I have 3 :) for a lot
<br\>   >less than a sid station. Only problem is carrying them
<br\>   >to gigs ha ha, my discs got xrayed when I played in
<br\>   >london and most of my data got wiped AAAAGh
<br\>   >
<br\>   >BTW this method also works well for running
<br\>   >cybertracker on your c64, it's too cool for school.
<br\>   >
<br\>   >spoony
<br\>   >I promise to keep on topic in future with subjects
<br\>   >like, stop asking for carts and burn your own. Or how
<br\>   >to track 80's power ballads in LSDj :)
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >  --- "M-.-n" <nostromo@...> wrote: > You are
<br\>   >probably reffering to this :)
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > > www.sidstation.com
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > > Elektron is discontinuing them (apparently due to
<br\>   > > shortage of SID chips) so
<br\>   > > you better hurry if u really want one. Be aware that
<br\>   > > they've raised the
<br\>   > > price for the last units. Look also for second hand
<br\>   > > material if available:
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > > >I'll get from the user group, but does anyone know
<br\>   > > about KMFDM's
<br\>   > > > Sidstation, the commodore 64 sound chip setup...?
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > >
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<br\>
> looks like there are new Flash Cardridges in stock!!
<br\>> Hong Kong Toys just have the Xchanger + 64MB Cart
<br\>> (60$) in their list
<br\>> again and with a *new* sign. They also sell the
<br\>
<br\>nope, they dont.  pretty much everything on their
<br\>website has a flashing "new" sign next to it.  they
<br\>dont have any xchangers in stock or carts.  booo...
<br\>
<br\>still looking....
<br\>seth
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<br\>
There are still out of stock.
<br\>Just tried to order them.
<br\>Sorry,
<br\>
<br\>I think the best way to get an exchanger is get get an emerger.
<br\>I have one but you can only use e-card with this machine. I'm still looking
<br\>for more e-card but when I know where to buy them on the net. I will tell
<br\>you. OK?
<br\>Otherwise, when I've found an new and in stock item for use as backup gear.
<br\>I will let you know.
<br\>
<br\>Krisp
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "Niklas S" <salkin_niklas@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:22 PM
<br\>Subject: Re: [LSDj!] NEW FLASH CARDS AND XCHANGER
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Hey!
<br\>> this seems really great!
<br\>> Has any one ordered from HKT before?
<br\>> are they reliable?
<br\>> does any one know what kinda shippingcosts we are talking here?
<br\>> i was thinking the flashcard and the Xchanger..
<br\>> they are the most compatible tools arnt they?
<br\>> hmm..
<br\>> well yes! i hope this will solve it for me..
<br\>> thanx firestarter!
<br\>> /salkin
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> >From: "toemmes76" <firestarter@...>
<br\>> >Reply-To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >Subject: [LSDj!] NEW FLASH CARDS AND XCHANGER
<br\>> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:18:40 -0000
<br\>> >
<br\>> >Hey guys,
<br\>> >
<br\>> >looks like there are new Flash Cardridges in stock!!
<br\>> >Hong Kong Toys just have the Xchanger + 64MB Cart (60$) in their list
<br\>> >again and with a *new* sign. They also sell the PC-Linker
<br\>> >  with a 16mb cart (40$ ).
<br\>> >http://ps2modchip.com/
<br\>> >
<br\>> >And i might also have found some german deliverer for the 64M Mr.
<br\>> >Flash cart. Seems also like he still got some in stock. They are with
<br\>> >99 Euro a bit expensive, but it's still cheaper for me, cause i don't
<br\>> >have to pay the western union transfer and shipping. So it might be a
<br\>> >good possibillity for european people.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >http://www.shop.baumann-computer.de/
<br\>> >
<br\>> >I ordered one there. When it arrives, i will post again.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >greets
<br\>> >
<br\>> >firestARTer :-)
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
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Message:
<br\>
need help
<br\>
<br\>i bought LSDJ early in the year
<br\>
<br\>and an EMS Transferer and catridge...
<br\>
<br\>the cartridge was faulty (thanks for help various folk on list)
<br\>and sent it back - this was AGES ago and haven't heard at all
<br\>from EMS. thought i would get onto it again and no reply. now the
<br\>rumours of out of production.....
<br\>
<br\>so please please if anyone has a spare Transferer cartirdge i can
<br\>finally get tracking! will pay crap money and give you crap cd's
<br\>of music but will send lots of loving vibes.ok maybe will give
<br\>you reasonable money. oh damn it, okay good money.
<br\>
<br\>tim
<br\>aka casionova
<br\>www.spatula-international.com
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: [LSDj!] NEW FLASH CARDS AND XCHANGER

Message:
<br\>
Hmm..weird..
<br\>
<br\>i ordered one, some months ago and they were out of stock, so they sent
<br\>me the F2A with the GB Bridge.
<br\>Then i saw they deleted it from their shop - list.
<br\>But now it came back, so i thought it'll be a new bunch of carts.
<br\>
<br\>Sorry for that.. :-(
<br\>
<br\>Hopefully the german distributor will send my ordered one.
<br\>
<br\>greetz firestARTer
<br\>
<br\>Kris Provoost <kris_provoost@...> schrieb am 05.11.2003,
<br\>00:19:07:
<br\>> There are still out of stock.
<br\>> Just tried to order them.
<br\>> Sorry,
<br\>>
<br\>> I think the best way to get an exchanger is get get an emerger.
<br\>> I have one but you can only use e-card with this machine. I'm still looking
<br\>> for more e-card but when I know where to buy them on the net. I will tell
<br\>> you. OK?
<br\>> Otherwise, when I've found an new and in stock item for use as backup gear.
<br\>> I will let you know.
<br\>>
<br\>> Krisp
<br\>>
<br\>> ----- Original Message -----
<br\>> From: "Niklas S"
<br\>> To:
<br\>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:22 PM
<br\>> Subject: Re: [LSDj!] NEW FLASH CARDS AND XCHANGER
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > Hey!
<br\>> > this seems really great!
<br\>> > Has any one ordered from HKT before?
<br\>> > are they reliable?
<br\>> > does any one know what kinda shippingcosts we are talking here?
<br\>> > i was thinking the flashcard and the Xchanger..
<br\>> > they are the most compatible tools arnt they?
<br\>> > hmm..
<br\>> > well yes! i hope this will solve it for me..
<br\>> > thanx firestarter!
<br\>> > /salkin
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >From: "toemmes76"
<br\>> > >Reply-To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > >To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > >Subject: [LSDj!] NEW FLASH CARDS AND XCHANGER
<br\>> > >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:18:40 -0000
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >Hey guys,
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >looks like there are new Flash Cardridges in stock!!
<br\>> > >Hong Kong Toys just have the Xchanger + 64MB Cart (60$) in their list
<br\>> > >again and with a *new* sign. They also sell the PC-Linker
<br\>> > >  with a 16mb cart (40$ ).
<br\>> > >http://ps2modchip.com/
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >And i might also have found some german deliverer for the 64M Mr.
<br\>> > >Flash cart. Seems also like he still got some in stock. They are with
<br\>> > >99 Euro a bit expensive, but it's still cheaper for me, cause i don't
<br\>> > >have to pay the western union transfer and shipping. So it might be a
<br\>> > >good possibillity for european people.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >http://www.shop.baumann-computer.de/
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >I ordered one there. When it arrives, i will post again.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >greets
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >firestARTer :-)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
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Message:
<br\>
Hello
<br\>
<br\>I also got a fa linker and a gb brigde from hkt.
<br\>It always crashes with gb games. do you have the same
<br\>problem ??
<br\>
<br\>greetings
<br\>
<br\>Andreas
<br\>
<br\>   Am 05.11.2003 07:32:01, schrieb <firestarter@...>:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>>Hmm..weird..
<br\>>
<br\>>i ordered one, some months ago and they were out of stock, so they sent
<br\>>me the F2A with the GB Bridge.
<br\>>Then i saw they deleted it from their shop - list.
<br\>>But now it came back, so i thought it'll be a new bunch of carts.
<br\>>
<br\>>Sorry for that.. :-(
<br\>>
<br\>>Hopefully the german distributor will send my ordered one.
<br\>>
<br\>>greetz firestARTer
<br\>>
<br\>>Kris Provoost <kris_provoost@...> schrieb am 05.11.2003,
<br\>>00:19:07:
<br\>>> There are still out of stock.
<br\>>> Just tried to order them.
<br\>>> Sorry,
<br\>>>
<br\>>> I think the best way to get an exchanger is get get an emerger.
<br\>>> I have one but you can only use e-card with this machine. I'm still looking
<br\>>> for more e-card but when I know where to buy them on the net. I will tell
<br\>>> you. OK?
<br\>>> Otherwise, when I've found an new and in stock item for use as backup gear.
<br\>>> I will let you know.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Krisp
<br\>>>
<br\>>> ----- Original Message -----
<br\>>> From: "Niklas S"
<br\>>> To:
<br\>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:22 PM
<br\>>> Subject: Re: [LSDj!] NEW FLASH CARDS AND XCHANGER
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>> > Hey!
<br\>>> > this seems really great!
<br\>>> > Has any one ordered from HKT before?
<br\>>> > are they reliable?
<br\>>> > does any one know what kinda shippingcosts we are talking here?
<br\>>> > i was thinking the flashcard and the Xchanger..
<br\>>> > they are the most compatible tools arnt they?
<br\>>> > hmm..
<br\>>> > well yes! i hope this will solve it for me..
<br\>>> > thanx firestarter!
<br\>>> > /salkin
<br\>>> >
<br\>>> >
<br\>>> >
<br\>>> >
<br\>>> > >From: "toemmes76"
<br\>>> > >Reply-To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>> > >To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>> > >Subject: [LSDj!] NEW FLASH CARDS AND XCHANGER
<br\>>> > >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:18:40 -0000
<br\>>> > >
<br\>>> > >Hey guys,
<br\>>> > >
<br\>>> > >looks like there are new Flash Cardridges in stock!!
<br\>>> > >Hong Kong Toys just have the Xchanger + 64MB Cart (60$) in their list
<br\>>> > >again and with a *new* sign. They also sell the PC-Linker
<br\>>> > >  with a 16mb cart (40$ ).
<br\>>> > >http://ps2modchip.com/
<br\>>> > >
<br\>>> > >And i might also have found some german deliverer for the 64M Mr.
<br\>>> > >Flash cart. Seems also like he still got some in stock. They are with
<br\>>> > >99 Euro a bit expensive, but it's still cheaper for me, cause i don't
<br\>>> > >have to pay the western union transfer and shipping. So it might be a
<br\>>> > >good possibillity for european people.
<br\>>> > >
<br\>>> > >http://www.shop.baumann-computer.de/
<br\>>> > >
<br\>>> > >I ordered one there. When it arrives, i will post again.
<br\>>> > >
<br\>>> > >greets
<br\>>> > >
<br\>>> > >firestARTer :-)
<br\>>> > >
<br\>>> > >
<br\>>> > >
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Message:
<br\>
Hey
<br\>
<br\>What size is your F2A cart? There is a knowen problem with 64M carts
<br\>not being able to run classic gameboy roms. Check the following
<br\>website for a possible fix ... down at the bottom:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.flash2advance.com/
<br\>
<br\>and pray for a gba port ;D
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, abesoitis@t... wrote:
<br\>> Hello
<br\>>
<br\>> I also got a fa linker and a gb brigde from hkt.
<br\>> It always crashes with gb games. do you have the same
<br\>> problem ??
<br\>>
<br\>> greetings
<br\>>
<br\>> Andreas
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> I think the best way to get an exchanger is get get an emerger.
<br\>> I have one but you can only use e-card with this machine. I'm still
<br\>> looking
<br\>> for more e-card but when I know where to buy them on the net. I will
<br\>> tell
<br\>> you. OK?
<br\>>
<br\>Look in the message archive, I posted some sources some days ago. I
<br\>think they had in stock both the 16Mb and 64Mb cards.
<br\>
<br\>Cheers!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>____ :: a k i r a _ K
<br\>/// k i k e n . c o r p o r a t i o n
<br\>______>>> <http://www.kikencorp.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi!
<br\>check this:
<br\>http://goomba.bornonapirateship.com/
<br\>
<br\>Goomba is a Nintendo Game Boy Emulator that will allow you to play the old
<br\>Nintendo Handheld classics on your Gameboy Advance.
<br\>
<br\>great stuff for FLASH2ADVANCE and compatibile with POGOSHELL!!!
<br\>
<br\>and....
<br\>NANOLOOP 1.2 (demo) great working on Goomba.... and emulator have option:
<br\>"save state" and "load state"!
<br\>
<br\>:-)))
<br\>
<br\>LSDJ on Goomba - uuuhhhh.... .... crashed... errors.. not compatibility
<br\>maybe in future...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> > > best!
<br\>
<br\>$ $ $ jar_OS_law kujda [ mikrokilla ]
<br\>< http://gameboyzz.terra.pl >
<br\>< http://kunstbande.terra.pl >
<br\>< http://doxapine.prv.pl >
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
well of course i had to try this with LSDj dispite your warning ...
<br\>
<br\>the graphics work fine, but there is something wrong with the memory.
<br\>even if i clear everything from the PROJECT screen crap data keeps
<br\>being writen all over the place.
<br\>
<br\>any ideas on why this would happen johan??? i emailed the author of
<br\>goomba today to see if he knew what was going on.
<br\>
<br\>heh, still ... there are some classics on gb (revenge of the gator
<br\>pinball!!!) that are nice to have on a gba cart with my nintendo
<br\>favorits ... i'll have to check out the PCE emulator that is out
<br\>(bomberman 97, here i come!!!)
<br\>
<br\>ok
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan /
<br\>starPause
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "kunstbande SLA" <kunstbande@t...> wrote:
<br\>> hi!
<br\>> check this:
<br\>> http://goomba.bornonapirateship.com/
<br\>>
<br\>> Goomba is a Nintendo Game Boy Emulator that will allow you to play
<br\>the old
<br\>> Nintendo Handheld classics on your Gameboy Advance.
<br\>>
<br\>> great stuff for FLASH2ADVANCE and compatibile with POGOSHELL!!!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> LSDJ on Goomba - uuuhhhh.... .... crashed... errors.. not
<br\>compatibility
<br\>> maybe in future...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> great stuff for FLASH2ADVANCE and compatibile with POGOSHELL!!!
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>oh, and i was going to say, if this memory problem with goomba could
<br\>be worked out it would maybe be even better than a gba port of
<br\>LSDj ... using pogoshell you can have as many copys of something as
<br\>you like, and a bunch of save states for each of them :O
<br\>
<br\>you would have to back up all your work together as the goomba save
<br\>file, but still ... that would be awesome, having the storage space
<br\>to keep a libary of everything you've worked on .. . .. . dang!
<br\>
<br\>alright enough dreaming out of me ;D
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> > great stuff for FLASH2ADVANCE and compatibile with POGOSHELL!!!
<br\>>
<br\>> oh, and i was going to say, if this memory problem with goomba could
<br\>> be worked out it would maybe be even better than a gba port of
<br\>> LSDj ... using pogoshell you can have as many copys of something as
<br\>> you like, and a bunch of save states for each of them :O
<br\>
<br\>I doubt it's really emulating the sound though... If I would write an emulator,
<br\>I would just use the existing sound registers that are the same as for the old
<br\>Gameboy (meaning the wave sound bug would still be there)...
<br\>
<br\>But I agree, it'd really be cool if it worked...
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hmmm,
<br\>it would be neat if you could switch between song mode and live
<br\>without stoping playback. although probaly troublesome (i.e.:how
<br\>to stop playing in live mode). maybe hold (b+a), push right/left
<br\>d-pad while in song mode???
<br\>just an idea...
<br\>-the joshu4
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey,
<br\>
<br\>I just bought a second hand gameboy at a video game store in my town, and i
<br\>was going to use it for my live sets, but when i turned it on the LCD had
<br\>verticle shadows that made it impossable to use. So, because I olny payed
<br\>15$ USD for the thing, i opeded it up and had a look, all i did was make
<br\>sure the connection between the two main boards was connected properly, it
<br\>wasn't, so i conneced them properly and that solved my LCD problem. Then i
<br\>started to mess around with LSDJ and i noticed that the wave channel had
<br\>lots and lots of noise over it, like using LSDJ on an advanced, or SP. I was
<br\>just wondering if any one had a solution, or experanced the same provlem
<br\>with some of the old gray gameboys? Any advice would help, and just to let
<br\>you know i only have 7 days to return it.... also, i know info about this
<br\>this in waki, but does anyone here recomend a gameboypocket for live sets?
<br\>How do they sound compaired to the orginal GB?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks in advanced!
<br\>
<br\>Neil
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Message:
<br\>
> you would have to back up all your work together as the goomba save
<br\>> file, but still ... that would be awesome, having the storage space
<br\>> to keep a libary of everything you've worked on .. . .. . dang!
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>You've worked with the sram explorer, right? _the_ save file solution for
<br\>pogoshell.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
it's true, GOOMBA author fluBBa wrote the sound "emulation" as a
<br\>wraper for the real hardware ... which means 100% authentic sound ;D
<br\>
<br\>well, except WAV chan of course, he said there could be some
<br\>weirdness on it still ...
<br\>
<br\>he also said that he is now working twords getting LSDj emulated
<br\>properly!!!         /me waits patiently
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>
<br\>p.s. david, no, i haven't messed with SRAM explorer ... have to check
<br\>that out now!
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@l...> wrote:
<br\>> > > great stuff for FLASH2ADVANCE and compatibile with POGOSHELL!!!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > oh, and i was going to say, if this memory problem with goomba
<br\>could
<br\>> > be worked out it would maybe be even better than a gba port of
<br\>> > LSDj ... using pogoshell you can have as many copys of something
<br\>as
<br\>> > you like, and a bunch of save states for each of them :O
<br\>>
<br\>> I doubt it's really emulating the sound though... If I would write
<br\>an emulator, I would just use the existing sound registers that are
<br\>the same as for the old Gameboy (meaning the wave sound bug would
<br\>still be there)...
<br\>>
<br\>> But I agree, it'd really be cool if it worked...
<br\>>
<br\>> Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> this in waki, but does anyone here recomend a gameboypocket for
<br\>live sets?
<br\>> How do they sound compaired to the orginal GB?
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>i can't say i really recoment a pocket. those AAA's freak me out.
<br\>when i was using one i felt like my "odd crashes due to power
<br\>problems" were increased. however, i do know people who use pockets,
<br\>and are content.
<br\>
<br\>if u can splurge i would really suggest a gameboy light from one of
<br\>the hk distributers. they're around 40 bux, pocket sized, AA batz,
<br\>and have a light built in!!! be warned, the light does cause some
<br\>noticable hum when it's on. still, my gameboy of choice before i
<br\>treated myself to an sp.
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>


Subject:
CHILDCORE comp out now featuring track by k9d

SubjectSrt:
CHILDCORE comp out now featuring track by k9d

Message:
<br\>
hey all, there is a cdr comp out with a LSDj track i did on it ... as
<br\>k9d ... i have too many names, that one is for
<br\>gabber/hardcore/noise/etc ... the trax by other people are janky
<br\>breakcore and humorus samples/layer themed on CHILD, fun stuff ...
<br\>especially bugbomerboy's "fox in sox is expert rapper"
<br\>
<br\>anyway, you can get the cdr from ... Hardhitter aka Pantokrator MC
<br\>aka DJ Naald 'n Draad ,, his email is
<br\>pantokratormc@...
<br\>
<br\>or if you get on slsk, talk to balthazar boma, i think it's the only
<br\>thing he's got shared.
<br\>
<br\>/update
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "d hotmail" <dsmithpa@h...> wrote:
<br\>> m64? cooolio. I'm looking for it right now.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>REAL OLD SORRY
<br\>
<br\>http://gallium.prg.dtu.dk/anyware/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
2003-09-11: v2.2.7
<br\>
<br\>  * changed functionality in song screen. chain values won't wrap around anymore,
<br\>for example when standing on a chain value 00 and pressing A+LEFT, the value
<br\>won't wrap around to FE but instead stay at value 00.
<br\>  * it's no longer possible to scroll to next or previous phrase in phrase screen
<br\>while marking a block.
<br\>  * bugfix: couldn't change several phrases in chain screen when using a block
<br\>that was marked from bottom and up.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Demo version is updated from 1.4.3 => 2.2.7!
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/demo_version/
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Subject:
Lo-bat. live@ICA released on musicsystem

SubjectSrt:
Lo-bat. live@ICA released on musicsystem

Message:
<br\>
Hey!
<br\>
<br\>Fresh Lo-bat. news :-)
<br\>The liveconcert  from 28.06.2003 boy playground world tour /ICA, London got
<br\>released on musicsystem as a realaudio stream. Quality is supersupernice and it
<br\>contains previously unreleased songs like bibibi, my little droid needs a hand
<br\>and drum&bite me.
<br\>
<br\>For the geeks, I used two gameboys + some guitareffects to spice it up somewhat
<br\>(specialy the wahwah pedal is my favorite, tribute to Hendrix ;-)
<br\>
<br\>Many thanks to Emma for organising, Wendy and the ICA for recording and Mikael
<br\>(musicsystem) for releasing!!!
<br\>
<br\>  http://superchannel.org/Home/Channels/MSYSM/lo_bat.rm/player.html
<br\>
<br\>for more livedates check my site: http://www.lo-bat.be
<br\>
<br\>Love
<br\>
<br\>Lo-bat.
<br\>
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Subject:
Gb xchanger +flash card for sale. For nanoloop or LSDJ

SubjectSrt:
Gb xchanger +flash card for sale. For nanoloop or LSDJ

Message:
<br\>
I have a Gb xchanger with a Doctor gameboy 16m flash card, the serial
<br\>cord, and a cd filled with rom utilities. I bought this in an attempt
<br\>to make some tunes with nanoloop or LSDJ but im having too much fun
<br\>with my laptop. So this lil setup has not even been utilized. And i
<br\>know someone out there could use it more.
<br\>
<br\>So if you need one of these and are looking to purchase the nanoloop
<br\>or LSDJ rom for use. I have this for sale for you.
<br\>
<br\>Just e-mail me with offer. Thanks
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
>I doubt it's really emulating the sound though... If I would write an
<br\>>emulator, I would just use the existing sound registers that are the same
<br\>>as for the old Gameboy (meaning the wave sound bug would still be there)...
<br\>>
<br\>>But I agree, it'd really be cool if it worked...
<br\>>
<br\>>Johan
<br\>
<br\>If I wrote an GB emulator for GBA, (which I might start doing during
<br\>christmas break) I'd use registers for Ch1,2,4 + Ch3 in Waveform mode, but
<br\>emulate Ch3 in Waveplay mode.
<br\>
<br\>Another thing: This weekend I built a Multiboot cable, simply by cutting a
<br\>parallel cable and a gamelink cable apart and connecting the correct wires.
<br\>While looking around in the GBATEK document by Martin Korth, I found the
<br\>following quote:
<br\>
<br\>"Transfer lengths of 8bit or 32bit may be used, the 8bit mode is the same as
<br\>for older DMG/CGB gameboys, however, the voltages for "GBA cartridges in
<br\>GBAs" are different as for "GMG/CGB cartridges in DMG/CGB/GBAs", ie. it is
<br\>not possible to communicate between DMG/CGB games and GBA games."
<br\>
<br\>In other words, it would be possible, using the correct protocol, to
<br\>communicate between a GBA in GBA mode (Goomba) and a Gameboy in old mode
<br\>(LSDj run natively) if you'd implement some sort of amplifier one way and a
<br\>resistance the other way, so that the voltages would be correct. At least in
<br\>theory, I cant see why it wouldn't work.
<br\>
<br\>Btw, does anybody know anything about how to use an LPT port (in SPP
<br\>mode)from a PC program? I've poked port $378, which is my LPT1, but I dont
<br\>know what each bit stands for...
<br\>
<br\>I'd better stop before this post´gets painfully long...
<br\>
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<br\>
>hmmm,
<br\>>it would be neat if you could switch between song mode and live
<br\>>without stoping playback. although probaly troublesome (i.e.:how
<br\>>to stop playing in live mode). maybe hold (b+a), push right/left
<br\>>d-pad while in song mode???
<br\>>just an idea...
<br\>>-the joshu4
<br\>
<br\>Anything using B+A is not an option, since B+A means delete/cut. I'd rather
<br\>go for something like: press B + left then right(or right then left) to
<br\>switch modes and stop playback, press B + left twice(or right twice) to
<br\>switch modes and keep playing... But yeah it seems as a useful feature at
<br\>times.
<br\>
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<br\>
>started to mess around with LSDJ and i noticed that the wave channel had
<br\>>lots and lots of noise over it, like using LSDJ on an advanced, or SP. I
<br\>>was
<br\>
<br\>Do you really mean that kind of noise? Or do you mean a loud background
<br\>noise of some kind? This hasn't really to do with your question, but when I
<br\>prosounded (A connection described in the wiki) my GBC, the cable was lying
<br\>near the display, giving it both a 60Hz Vblank noise, and a higher frequency
<br\>Hblank noise... Whatever...
<br\>
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<br\>
>  * changed functionality in song screen. chain values won't wrap around
<br\>>anymore, for example when standing on a chain value 00 and pressing A+LEFT,
<br\>>the value won't wrap around to FE but instead stay at value 00.
<br\>
<br\>I noticed that during the interview. That pretty much destroys my techinque
<br\>to use FE as an empty fill-out chain.
<br\>
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<br\>
Hi "Lennart!"
<br\>
<br\>> >  * changed functionality in song screen. chain values won't wrap around
<br\>> >anymore, for example when standing on a chain value 00 and pressing
<br\>A+LEFT,
<br\>> >the value won't wrap around to FE but instead stay at value 00.
<br\>>
<br\>> I noticed that during the interview. That pretty much destroys my
<br\>techinque
<br\>> to use FE as an empty fill-out chain.
<br\>
<br\>I would say on the contrary. Now you can always get to FE pretty fast by
<br\>holding A+UP... no?
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Subject:
RE: [LSDj!] Lo-bat. live@ICA released on musicsystem

Message:
<br\>
This kicks so much ass.
<br\>
<br\>- Josh / BS>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> -----Original Message-----
<br\>> From: Wauter [mailto:Wauterm@...]
<br\>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 5:05 PM
<br\>> To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> Subject: [LSDj!] Lo-bat. live@ICA released on musicsystem
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Hey!
<br\>>
<br\>> Fresh Lo-bat. news :-)
<br\>> The liveconcert  from 28.06.2003 boy playground world tour
<br\>> /ICA, London got released on musicsystem as a realaudio
<br\>> stream. Quality is supersupernice and it contains previously
<br\>> unreleased songs like bibibi, my little droid needs a hand
<br\>> and drum&bite me.
<br\>>
<br\>> For the geeks, I used two gameboys + some guitareffects to
<br\>> spice it up somewhat (specialy the wahwah pedal is my
<br\>> favorite, tribute to Hendrix ;-)
<br\>>
<br\>> Many thanks to Emma for organising, Wendy and the ICA for
<br\>> recording and Mikael (musicsystem) for releasing!!!
<br\>>
<br\>> http://superchannel.org/Home/Channels/MSYSM/lo_bat.rm/player.html
<br\>>
<br\>> for more livedates check my site: http://www.lo-bat.be
<br\>>
<br\>> Love
<br\>>
<br\>> Lo-bat.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>.: BIT SHIFTER ::.:..:::.::.. ::. .:::. ::.:..
<br\>.: http://www.bitshifter.cc/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hmm, i'm not sure what is cool about being able to swtich  between live and song
<br\>mode, or how that would even be possible ...
<br\>
<br\>oh wait, like if you had a microchain going, and you wanted to que up a song to
<br\>start
<br\>after that micro chain finished, then the song would play back correctly right
<br\>from the
<br\>start without putting effort into getting the livemode playheads in the right
<br\>place for
<br\>each channel.
<br\>
<br\>hmm, B+A is taken but what about A+B, hah. i dunno maybe i have that backwards
<br\>even.
<br\>
<br\>i dunno as far as live mode features go i still think being able  to put the
<br\>output of a
<br\>channel  to left or right (regardless of instrument or phrase settings) would be
<br\>pretty
<br\>useful for cueing stuff up ... dj dj dj heh
<br\>
<br\>alright,
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Lennart Ek" <lennartek@h...> wrote:
<br\>> >hmmm,
<br\>> >it would be neat if you could switch between song mode and live
<br\>> >without stoping playback. although probaly troublesome (i.e.:how
<br\>> >to stop playing in live mode). maybe hold (b+a), push right/left
<br\>> >d-pad while in song mode???
<br\>> >just an idea...
<br\>> >-the joshu4
<br\>>
<br\>> Anything using B+A is not an option, since B+A means delete/cut. I'd rather
<br\>> go for something like: press B + left then right(or right then left) to
<br\>> switch modes and stop playback, press B + left twice(or right twice) to
<br\>> switch modes and keep playing... But yeah it seems as a useful feature at
<br\>> times.
<br\>>
<br\>>                                                 /nitro2k01
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<br\>
> > to use FE as an empty fill-out chain.
<br\>>
<br\>>I would say on the contrary. Now you can always get to FE pretty fast by
<br\>>holding A+UP... no?
<br\>>
<br\>>Cheers,
<br\>>Johan
<br\>>
<br\>Well, yes, but I'm very used to pushing A+left on phrase 00 to create an
<br\>empty one for fillouts. Besides wrapping is good when you're at a high
<br\>phrase number like DE and want to change it to something low, like 10.
<br\>Overall I'm very used to the wrapping values. However that's not a problem
<br\>since I dont have a burner, and thus is still stuck with an old version.
<br\>
<br\>                                                      /nitro2k01
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<br\>
--- starpawz612 <starpawz612@...> wrote:
<br\>> hmm, i'm not sure what is cool about being able to
<br\>> swtich  between live and song
<br\>> mode, or how that would even be possible ...
<br\>>
<br\>> oh wait, like if you had a microchain going, and you
<br\>> wanted to que up a song to start
<br\>> after that micro chain finished, then the song would
<br\>> play back correctly right from the
<br\>> start without putting effort into getting the
<br\>> livemode playheads in the right place for
<br\>> each channel.
<br\>
<br\>actually, i usually wish i could do it when im playing
<br\>out and forget to start in live mode if i start with a
<br\>son, but then want to go into some lox shit... of
<br\>coarse if im careful when i start its not a problem...
<br\>
<br\>> i dunno as far as live mode features go i still
<br\>> think being able  to put the output of a
<br\>> channel  to left or right (regardless of instrument
<br\>> or phrase settings) would be pretty
<br\>> useful for cueing stuff up ... dj dj dj heh
<br\>
<br\>i think just setting instr and having some code in
<br\>name for l/r channel would be pretty much as well, but
<br\>you do need to plan it out a little more.
<br\>hmmmm.
<br\>also, two gameboys??? thats one sure easy way to cue
<br\>if you like to dj dj.djdjdjdjdjdjdjjdjdjdjdjjjjjjj
<br\>-the joshua
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> alright,
<br\>> j.ordan
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Lennart Ek"
<br\>> <lennartek@h...> wrote:
<br\>> > >hmmm,
<br\>> > >it would be neat if you could switch between song
<br\>> mode and live
<br\>> > >without stoping playback. although probaly
<br\>> troublesome (i.e.:how
<br\>> > >to stop playing in live mode). maybe hold (b+a),
<br\>> push right/left
<br\>> > >d-pad while in song mode???
<br\>> > >just an idea...
<br\>> > >-the joshu4
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Anything using B+A is not an option, since B+A
<br\>> means delete/cut. I'd rather
<br\>> > go for something like: press B + left then
<br\>> right(or right then left) to
<br\>> > switch modes and stop playback, press B + left
<br\>> twice(or right twice) to
<br\>> > switch modes and keep playing... But yeah it seems
<br\>> as a useful feature at
<br\>> > times.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> /nitro2k01
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
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<br\>
> > > to use FE as an empty fill-out chain.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >I would say on the contrary. Now you can always get to FE pretty fast by
<br\>> >holding A+UP... no?
<br\>>
<br\>> Well, yes, but I'm very used to pushing A+left on phrase 00 to create an
<br\>> empty one for fillouts. Besides wrapping is good when you're at a high
<br\>> phrase number like DE and want to change it to something low, like 10.
<br\>
<br\>Hmm. I'm not sure and I guess it could be done either ways. I guess the most
<br\>important thing is to be consistent somehow... Maybe I change it back for the
<br\>next version...
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>
<br\>>Hmm. I'm not sure and I guess it could be done either ways. I guess the
<br\>>most important thing is to be consistent somehow... Maybe I change it back
<br\>>for the next version...
<br\>
<br\>I dont want to keep this topic going forever, but you don't need to. Since I
<br\>dont have a flash cart writer, I wont be using the latest version anyway. So
<br\>don't change it for me, it'd be a waste of time.
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Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] change song value. wrap/stop?

Message:
<br\>
> > >  * changed functionality in song screen. chain values won't wrap around
<br\>> > >anymore, for example when standing on a chain value 00 and pressing A+LEFT,
<br\>>
<br\>> >Hmm. I'm not sure and I guess it could be done either ways. I guess the
<br\>> >most important thing is to be consistent somehow... Maybe I change it back
<br\>> >for the next version...
<br\>>
<br\>> I dont want to keep this topic going forever, but you don't need to. Since I
<br\>> dont have a flash cart writer, I wont be using the latest version anyway. So
<br\>
<br\>OK, I won't change it for you :)  But if many people use this strategy, it might
<br\>be worth keeping it, or what do you think?
<br\>
<br\>Any comments from the rest of the group or is this totally uninteresting?
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>>>* changed functionality in song screen. chain values won't wrap
<br\>>>>around anymore,
<br\>
<br\>>>That pretty much destroys my techinque
<br\>>>to use FE as an empty fill-out chain.
<br\>
<br\>>But if many people use this strategy, it might
<br\>>be worth keeping it, or what do you think?
<br\>
<br\>I use this technique as well, but I never did the reverse wrap
<br\>around much, except by accident.  I use 7F as an empty chain a lot,
<br\>too - just cause that's what I use for a blank pattern - to keep
<br\>things consistent.
<br\>
<br\>Just my feedback.
<br\>
<br\>-Bud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I also use FE for empty loops so I'm used to the fact that it wraps around.
<br\>But like you said it might be even easier to reach FE by pressing A+up, so I
<br\>guess I'm up for the changement...
<br\>
<br\>Lo-bat.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@...>
<br\>>Reply-To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>>Subject: Re: [LSDj!] change song value. wrap/stop?
<br\>>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:34:30 +0100
<br\>>
<br\>> > > >  * changed functionality in song screen. chain values won't wrap
<br\>>around
<br\>> > > >anymore, for example when standing on a chain value 00 and pressing
<br\>>A+LEFT,
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >Hmm. I'm not sure and I guess it could be done either ways. I guess the
<br\>> > >most important thing is to be consistent somehow... Maybe I change it
<br\>>back
<br\>> > >for the next version...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I dont want to keep this topic going forever, but you don't need to.
<br\>>Since I
<br\>> > dont have a flash cart writer, I wont be using the latest version
<br\>>anyway. So
<br\>>
<br\>>OK, I won't change it for you :)  But if many people use this strategy, it
<br\>>might be worth keeping it, or what do you think?
<br\>>
<br\>>Any comments from the rest of the group or is this totally uninteresting?
<br\>>
<br\>>Cheers,
<br\>>Johan
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Looks like Nintendo themselves is getting into the media download game:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3198&likref=alert
<br\>
<br\>     The ability to download software right into the unit should be really
<br\>interesting for homebrew developers, IF Nintendo will slacken their attitude
<br\>about everything being "officially" approved and licensed through them.
<br\>
<br\>     Just thought that you guys might be interested.
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I think I may have found a bug in v2.2.6+. When I'm in live mode and I'm
<br\>messing around starting stoping chains after a while [select]+[start] stops
<br\>the current chain playing BUT does not stop in sync when the next chain
<br\>starts like it does when you start one. I have a e-merger, with a 64mb card
<br\>so maybe its my hardware, I havent had access to my computer for a fewdays
<br\>so I haven't been able to change versions to see if it was my hardware or
<br\>the version.  I do have another cart that has v2.1.6 and it works
<br\>flawlessly, however it is a pc-linker card - peice of crap if you ask me...
<br\>anyway just thought i'd let you know... if no one responds and i have the
<br\>time i'll write a reply with what I come up with!
<br\>
<br\>Neil
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Message:
<br\>
> I think I may have found a bug in v2.2.6+. When I'm in live mode and I'm
<br\>> messing around starting stoping chains after a while [select]+[start] stops
<br\>> the current chain playing BUT does not stop in sync when the next chain
<br\>> starts like it does when you start one.
<br\>
<br\>Hi Neil!
<br\>
<br\>Bug confirmed!
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
No problem. Hey, I'm just glad its not my hardware ;-) I'd hate to be stuck
<br\>using an older version when the new midi comes out. Keep up the good work
<br\>Johan!
<br\>
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<br\>
> No problem. Hey, I'm just glad its not my hardware ;-) I'd hate to be stuck
<br\>> using an older version when the new midi comes out. Keep up the good work
<br\>> Johan!
<br\>
<br\>Yep... seriously it helps a lot if people report bugs, even if it's just small
<br\>annoyances... Sometimes I'm surprised how long bugs can stay unreported...
<br\>
<br\>Maybe this really is just a hint that I should do better bugtesting before
<br\>release, but I prefer to release soon and often :)
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks for the heads-up!
<br\>
<br\>So, plug that into a mini AV-ready CCD like this: (color Casio ev-
<br\>660)
<br\>
<br\>http://www.buy-cheap-electricals.co.uk/Televisions/Casio_EV-660.html
<br\>
<br\>and you've got a portable N64 with a flash card. & the press release
<br\>suggest that the new single processor system will produce less noise.
<br\>hmmmmmmmm. That's got tracker written all over it!
<br\>
<br\>-William
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Bohus Blahut" <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>     Looks like Nintendo themselves is getting into the media
<br\>download game:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3198&likref=alert
<br\>>
<br\>>     The ability to download software right into the unit should be
<br\>really
<br\>> interesting for homebrew developers, IF Nintendo will slacken their
<br\>attitude
<br\>> about everything being "officially" approved and licensed through
<br\>them.
<br\>>
<br\>>     Just thought that you guys might be interested.
<br\>>
<br\>> - Bohus Blahut
<br\>>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>   modern filmmaker
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Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] Re: OT: Nintendo''s new console

Message:
<br\>
> So, plug that into a mini AV-ready CCD like this: (color Casio ev-
<br\>> 660)
<br\>
<br\>Hmm, in my experience all the affordable CCD:s have way too low resolution for
<br\>tracking... I was going to get one like a year ago, but ended up buying this one
<br\>on Clas Ohlson (Swedens Radio Shack) instead :
<br\>http://www.clasohlson.se/images/products/S/hi/A/326897_Xw2.jpg
<br\>
<br\>Costs something like $25, it's a hit!
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
You should have written it in pure assembler. I know you told me you
<br\>couldn't have practically done it, but... Assembler coders usually write
<br\>_much_ better code since they are used to having to do things perfectly.
<br\>That's why I think no$gmb could be possibly the best emulator around (any
<br\>system).
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>/nitro2k01
<br\>
<br\>>Maybe this really is just a hint that I should do better bugtesting before
<br\>>release, but I prefer to release soon and often :)
<br\>>
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<br\>
At 13:05 2003-11-13 +0100, you wrote:
<br\>>You should have written it in pure assembler. I know you told me you
<br\>>couldn't have practically done it, but... Assembler coders usually write
<br\>>_much_ better code since they are used to having to do things perfectly.
<br\>>That's why I think no$gmb could be possibly the best emulator around (any
<br\>>system).
<br\>
<br\>No$ for sure isn't the best emulator around. When we did some demo
<br\>programming, we had several problems with No$ not behaving like the real
<br\>deal when getting into extreme timing issues with the display and graphics.
<br\>...and the sound in No$, need not say anything about that... The debugger
<br\>was very useful though, so we used it quite a bit anyway. I'd say that VICE
<br\>for c64 is better. It manages even those extreme demos of today that bring
<br\>16 (solid, real, non-flickering, yes) new colors to the c64-screen that was
<br\>unimagined until 2002 or so... I don't say that it is 100%, but it is for
<br\>sure more impressing than No$.
<br\>
<br\>Still, No$ is cool like hell..
<br\>
<br\>// Autoboy / HT
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've built a nocash parallell multiboot cable(I skipped the UART facility),
<br\>which works fine for multiboot. But since it si very much similar to a DMG
<br\>link cable i thought it could be possible to use it for external sync. So I
<br\>tried running XBOO (nocash multiboot downloader) against LSDj, and it
<br\>reacted in both slave and MIDI sync modes. But when I try writing a program
<br\>to sync with it, I just cant get it to react even a single tick.
<br\>Perhaps this is because I've somehow misunderstood the parallel port
<br\>protocol, but could you (Johan) please upload some information about at
<br\>least one of the two protocols? (slave/MIDI)
<br\>
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<br\>
> You should have written it in pure assembler. I know you told me you
<br\>> couldn't have practically done it, but... Assembler coders usually write
<br\>> _much_ better code since they are used to having to do things perfectly.
<br\>
<br\>I disagree totally. C gives much needed abstraction and overview, something
<br\>that is necessary for producing good algorithms, and generally allows me to
<br\>produce code about ten times faster than with assembler. Also most of the
<br\>bugs aren't really because of bad coding but bad thinking, and when I have
<br\>the code presented in a high-level language, it helps me to identify the
<br\>problem lines much faster.
<br\>
<br\>Typically I sketch out everything in C, and just optimize in assembler where
<br\>it really counts. This usually works out really well; after all, the golden
<br\>rule is that a program spends 90% of it's time in 10% of it's code...
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Another option for a display is the Audio&Video Displayer for GBA SP. if you
<br\>already have an SP the price is not so bad ($50 USD), plus its on a gameboy!
<br\>stay true to your roots! However I have a different type, the GBA/GBA SP AV
<br\>Adaptor from success ($21.50 USD), the resolution is not that great, but
<br\>would probably be alright for tracking, because (i know this is redundant) i
<br\>hooked my GBA Transverter into it, and i could still track with LSDJ but at
<br\>bottom of text lines it would cut a little bit off, still functional though.
<br\>
<br\>The one I have:
<br\>http://www.success-hk.com/success/images/item/GBA-0103-Xf5l9.jpg
<br\>
<br\>The one that is probably better:
<br\>http://image.lik-sang.com/images//large/gbasp-avdisplayer.jpg
<br\>
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<br\>
2003-09-14: v2.2.8
<br\>
<br\>  * rewrote soft synthesizer from scratch. it now has better sound & is roughly
<br\>twice as fast (there's still room for optimizations!)
<br\>  * removed notch filter type in softsynth, because of technical considerations.
<br\>might come again if enough people complain...
<br\>  * bugfix: select+start to stop live chain didn't work as supposed (reported by
<br\>neil larion)
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I recently built a nocash multiboot cable. (The one without the burst boot
<br\>extension) It worked fine, and I got another idea, if it could be used to
<br\>send sync signals to LSDj. So I wrote a program to convert MIDI ticks to
<br\>LSDj sync signals. According to my own tests, it works fine, at least with
<br\>both GBA and GBC.
<br\>Know I want to know what the rest of the group would think about such a
<br\>program. The cable can also be used for multiboot (Because it was meant for
<br\>it), and it is easier to build than the DIY MIDI interface (
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/awkiawki/index.cgi/DiyMidiInterface ). The con
<br\>is of course that you have to have a computer between the MIDI cable and the
<br\>Gameboy interface. It is possible that it also adds a certain latency.
<br\>
<br\>When I did some experiments, the slave and MIDI sync options seemed to be
<br\>identical? I sent $FF to the port, and the slave and MIDI appearantly
<br\>reacted in the same way. Johan could you please submit some info?
<br\>
<br\>But is anybody interested in this way of syncing LSDj to MIDI?
<br\>
<br\>                                                                 /nitro2k01
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<br\>
hi, i'm pretty new to lsdj and was wondering about all the midi
<br\>interfaces people have built. How does it work? does it work like a
<br\>rackmunted synth does? can i just turn on the gameboy set it to the
<br\>sound i want and then control the notes by playing keys on the midi
<br\>controller? does this one,http://preromanbritain.com/gwem/lsdj_midi/
<br\>work like a rackmount? if anyone could help me that would be awesome.
<br\>thank you
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Most of interfaces did focus on synchronising the GB to midi clock.
<br\>Firestarter is currently finishing one that allows to play (see
<br\>http://www.firestarter-music.de/hardware.htm ) the gameboy. LSDj is not yet
<br\>going to be as a rackmount synth but definetly a god-send improvement  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "likeallthelights" <iloverorygilmore@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:34 PM
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] midi help
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> hi, i'm pretty new to lsdj and was wondering about all the midi
<br\>> interfaces people have built. How does it work? does it work like a
<br\>> rackmunted synth does? can i just turn on the gameboy set it to the
<br\>> sound i want and then control the notes by playing keys on the midi
<br\>> controller? does this one,http://preromanbritain.com/gwem/lsdj_midi/
<br\>> work like a rackmount? if anyone could help me that would be awesome.
<br\>> thank you
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
>hi, i'm pretty new to lsdj and was wondering about all the midi
<br\>>interfaces people have built. How does it work? does it work like a
<br\>>rackmunted synth does? can i just turn on the gameboy set it to the
<br\>>sound i want and then control the notes by playing keys on the midi
<br\>>controller? does this one,http://preromanbritain.com/gwem/lsdj_midi/
<br\>>work like a rackmount? if anyone could help me that would be awesome.
<br\>>thank you
<br\>
<br\>If you're so new you missed my last post, I'll give you an update. I'm
<br\>writing a program that will allow you to use a nocash multiboot cable for
<br\>sync, via your computer. The good thing is that the cable is relatively easy
<br\>to build yourself(Basically only wire to wire connections, no need for
<br\>resistances or anything like that). Martin Korth, the inventor of the cable,
<br\>has instructions here:
<br\>http://www.work.de/nocash/gbatek.htm#auxmultibootpctogbacable
<br\>Myself, I'll upload the program when the first public beta is available.
<br\>
<br\>                                                                /nitro2k01
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<br\>
--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "nitro2k01 formerly known as Lennart Ek"
<br\><lennartek@h...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >Hmm. I'm not sure and I guess it could be done either ways. I
<br\>guess the
<br\>> >most important thing is to be consistent somehow... Maybe I change
<br\>it back
<br\>> >for the next version...
<br\>>
<br\>> I dont want to keep this topic going forever, but you don't need
<br\>to. Since I
<br\>> dont have a flash cart writer, I wont be using the latest version
<br\>anyway. So
<br\>> don't change it for me, it'd be a waste of time.
<br\>
<br\>I just upgraded my cart and the change is definatly something
<br\>diffrent, but i guess I could get use to it. The reason I like it was
<br\>for the same reasons as nitro, since it auto advances up, put things
<br\>on the other side of the wrap around made it easier to have blank
<br\>phrases. It's not a big problem though, and I can probaly learn to
<br\>live with it.
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> I just upgraded my cart and the change is definatly something
<br\>> diffrent, but i guess I could get use to it. The reason I like it was
<br\>> for the same reasons as nitro, since it auto advances up, put things
<br\>> on the other side of the wrap around made it easier to have blank
<br\>> phrases. It's not a big problem though, and I can probaly learn to
<br\>> live with it.
<br\>
<br\>Hmm, I can see your reasoning... Somehow it makes more sense to scroll
<br\>down... So you grow the song upwards, and keep the empty phrase below the
<br\>wraparound because it feels like a safe & protected area...
<br\>
<br\>I can see some areas for compromise:
<br\>
<br\>  * Keeping the stop, but make it possible to "nag" your way over the
<br\>wraparound (like with the crazy dist setting in kit instruments)
<br\>  * Adding a shortcut like (A,B) for inserting FE. I don't know if this is
<br\>making it unnecessarily complicated though.
<br\>
<br\>Or I could skip the stop as well - but I think it's cool for people who
<br\>like to organize their chains so that the chains on pulse 1 start with 0,
<br\>pulse 2 start with 1, wave with 2, noise with 3. Then it's kind of cool to
<br\>be able to go to 00 quickly and then press A+UP,UP,.. to reach 10, 20, 30,
<br\>...
<br\>
<br\>Personally I don't think about it at all, I just hammer away with A,A
<br\>without any thought of structure or whatever :)
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello nitro2k01,
<br\>
<br\>im very interested in your programm, because it would be a fast and
<br\>easy way to synchronize ..
<br\>
<br\>But what do you mean by its necessary to have an extra computer
<br\>between midi cable and gameboy ?
<br\>a midi signal from my midikeyboard through an interface into my
<br\>computer into your programm and out to the gameboy
<br\>is they way i imagine signal flow.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>greetz,
<br\>milez
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Friday, November 14, 2003, 11:48:21 AM, you wrote:
<br\>
<br\>nfkaLE> I recently built a nocash multiboot cable. (The one without the burst
<br\>boot
<br\>nfkaLE> extension) It worked fine, and I got another idea, if it could be used
<br\>to
<br\>nfkaLE> send sync signals to LSDj. So I wrote a program to convert MIDI ticks to
<br\>nfkaLE> LSDj sync signals. According to my own tests, it works fine, at least
<br\>with
<br\>nfkaLE> both GBA and GBC.
<br\>nfkaLE> Know I want to know what the rest of the group would think about such a
<br\>nfkaLE> program. The cable can also be used for multiboot (Because it was meant
<br\>for
<br\>nfkaLE> it), and it is easier to build than the DIY MIDI interface (
<br\>nfkaLE> http://www.littlesounddj.com/awkiawki/index.cgi/DiyMidiInterface ). The
<br\>con
<br\>nfkaLE> is of course that you have to have a computer between the MIDI cable and
<br\>the
<br\>nfkaLE> Gameboy interface. It is possible that it also adds a certain latency.
<br\>
<br\>nfkaLE> When I did some experiments, the slave and MIDI sync options seemed to
<br\>be
<br\>nfkaLE> identical? I sent $FF to the port, and the slave and MIDI appearantly
<br\>nfkaLE> reacted in the same way. Johan could you please submit some info?
<br\>
<br\>nfkaLE> But is anybody interested in this way of syncing LSDj to MIDI?
<br\>
<br\>nfkaLE>                                                                
<br\>/nitro2k01
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Hi everyone..
<br\>
<br\>I'm new here and new to LSDJ. After reading about it in Wired and listening
<br\>to a buncha tracks online, I have become intrigued. I wanna try it out.
<br\>
<br\>I downloaded the demo cart and fired it up in an emulator (on osX), but when
<br\>I try to play the track, all I get is staticy noise. Is there something that
<br\>I am doing wrong? I have used KiGB and Virtual Gameboy with similar results.
<br\>
<br\>Also, how would one go about acquiring LSDJ on a real GB cart? Is there a
<br\>backup system for osX or os9 where I could by the ROM and burn a cart?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks in advance..
<br\>
<br\>-brian
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i am interested in this method of midi sync.
<br\>
<br\>you mentioned that it works with GBC, but the page you linked to with info
<br\>about the multiboot cable only talks about GBA.  i have no GBA and don't
<br\>plan on buying one, but if it works with GBC i'm all for it.
<br\>
<br\>the need for the computer to be in the mix is no problem for me, since my
<br\>computer is usually my midi sync master anyway.
<br\>
<br\>i'm wondering if this same method could be used to gain remote control over
<br\>note ons and instrument selection, like firestarter's mythical midi
<br\>interface.  is the protocol for this type of control publicly available
<br\>somewhere?  or was it something firestarter reverse-engineered somehow?
<br\>johan, any hints?  :)
<br\>
<br\>-simon
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: "nitro2k01 formerly known as Lennart Ek" <lennartek@...>
<br\>>Reply-To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>Subject: [LSDj!] Alternative MIDI sync
<br\>>Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:48:21 +0100
<br\>>
<br\>>I recently built a nocash multiboot cable. (The one without the burst boot
<br\>>extension) It worked fine, and I got another idea, if it could be used to
<br\>>send sync signals to LSDj. So I wrote a program to convert MIDI ticks to
<br\>>LSDj sync signals. According to my own tests, it works fine, at least with
<br\>>both GBA and GBC.
<br\>>Know I want to know what the rest of the group would think about such a
<br\>>program. The cable can also be used for multiboot (Because it was meant for
<br\>>it), and it is easier to build than the DIY MIDI interface (
<br\>>http://www.littlesounddj.com/awkiawki/index.cgi/DiyMidiInterface ). The con
<br\>>is of course that you have to have a computer between the MIDI cable and
<br\>>the
<br\>>Gameboy interface. It is possible that it also adds a certain latency.
<br\>>
<br\>>When I did some experiments, the slave and MIDI sync options seemed to be
<br\>>identical? I sent $FF to the port, and the slave and MIDI appearantly
<br\>>reacted in the same way. Johan could you please submit some info?
<br\>>
<br\>>But is anybody interested in this way of syncing LSDj to MIDI?
<br\>>
<br\>>                                                                 /nitro2k01
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<br\>
> i'm wondering if this same method could be used to gain remote control over
<br\>> note ons and instrument selection, like firestarter's mythical midi
<br\>> interface.  is the protocol for this type of control publicly available
<br\>> somewhere?  or was it something firestarter reverse-engineered somehow?
<br\>> johan, any hints?  :)
<br\>
<br\>Hehh... FirestArter is a technically illegal reverse-engineering hacker for sure
<br\>;)
<br\>
<br\>Honestly just ask me about anything and I'm sure we can work it out...
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
2003-11-15: v2.3.0
<br\>
<br\>  * soft synthesizer is now faux real time! change any value in BANK screen, and
<br\>the soft synthesizer will start to generate wave frames in the background
<br\>automagically.
<br\>  * changed back input behavior in SONG and CHAIN screen. chain and phrase values
<br\>now wrap around again.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>
<br\>Regards,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>
<br\>> Hmm, I can see your reasoning... Somehow it makes more sense to
<br\>scroll
<br\>> down... So you grow the song upwards, and keep the empty phrase
<br\>below the
<br\>> wraparound because it feels like a safe & protected area...
<br\>
<br\>Exactly! I've messed up alot of cool songs in my learning process,
<br\>and to have something in a safe area is defiantly cool...
<br\>
<br\>Maybe a phrase or chain lock feature instead? Lots of hardware synths
<br\>have this feature..
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> I can see some areas for compromise:
<br\>>
<br\>>  * Keeping the stop, but make it possible to "nag" your way over the
<br\>> wraparound (like with the crazy dist setting in kit instruments)
<br\>>  * Adding a shortcut like (A,B) for inserting FE. I don't know if
<br\>this is
<br\>> making it unnecessarily complicated though.
<br\>
<br\>How about a place to set the preference in the global menu instead?
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Or I could skip the stop as well - but I think it's cool for people
<br\>who
<br\>> like to organize their chains so that the chains on pulse 1 start
<br\>with 0,
<br\>> pulse 2 start with 1, wave with 2, noise with 3. Then it's kind of
<br\>cool to
<br\>> be able to go to 00 quickly and then press A+UP,UP,.. to reach 10,
<br\>20, 30,
<br\>> ...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I like that as well
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Personally I don't think about it at all, I just hammer away with
<br\>A,A
<br\>> without any thought of structure or whatever :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Its defiantly helped my learning curve to have some form of order...
<br\>
<br\>but yea my phrases are all jacked anways too :)
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi Brian,
<br\>
<br\>And welcome to this crazy place!
<br\>
<br\>> I downloaded the demo cart and fired it up in an emulator (on osX), but when
<br\>> I try to play the track, all I get is staticy noise. Is there something that
<br\>> I am doing wrong? I have used KiGB and Virtual Gameboy with similar results.
<br\>
<br\>I just got the rom image a couple of days ago and I'm running it on OSX.
<br\>Cant remember what Emu I'm using, I'll check it out after work but it was
<br\>from Richard Bannisters site -
<br\>
<br\>http://www.bannister.org/software/emu.htm
<br\>
<br\>> Also, how would one go about acquiring LSDJ on a real GB cart? Is there a
<br\>> backup system for osX or os9 where I could by the ROM and burn a cart?
<br\>
<br\>I've been toying with the idea of getting some back-up gear and using
<br\>Virtual PC but lots of people seem to be having trouble with a real PC so I
<br\>dunno yet... There was mention of a USB back-up kit but you'd need some OS X
<br\>guru to throw together the software ...
<br\>
<br\>HTH
<br\>
<br\>Dave
<br\>


Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] 2.3.0 - HOT softsynth update

Message:
<br\>
>  * changed back input behavior in SONG and CHAIN screen. chain and phrase
<br\>>values now wrap around again.
<br\>
<br\>Stupid idea... Why dont you add an option for wrap?
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Message:
<br\>
The first beta version of the program is out.
<br\>I tried to run it on a school computer, and it failed. Most probably this
<br\>because of the fact that the school computer is totally missing out a MIDI
<br\>port. Howeever bear in mind that this version MAY CONTAIN A BUG THAT MAKES
<br\>IT FAIL TO RUN!!
<br\>
<br\>Download page: http://www2.hemsida.net/dtd/software/lsdjmidi.html
<br\>
<br\>As for the question if an extra computer is needed: No. What I meant was
<br\>that you'll need a computer, in contrast to the other alternative where you
<br\>just need a special cable between the MIDI sync source and the Gameboy.
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Message:
<br\>
2003-11-17: v2.3.1
<br\>
<br\>  * updated song screen. now has a scrolling window so you can always see the
<br\>chains around the cursor. (original idea by starpaws for 1.000.000 years ago (i
<br\>think))
<br\>  * changed back behavior in SONG and CHAIN screen. won't wrap from FE->00 when
<br\>pressing A+UP. and now i'll leave it like this for a while...
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
has anyone ordered from this site?
<br\>
<br\>http://www.modchipamerica.com/
<br\>
<br\>they say they have pc-linkers. i ordered one at the end of october
<br\>and they haven't sent me a tracking number or in any way let me know
<br\>if it has shipped. it's like, if it's on back order, tell me. don't
<br\>take money out of my account and then not follow up on my questions.
<br\>all of the other sites will tell you if they are out of stock on an
<br\>item before you actually make an order.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi, might be some kind of problem with the song screen in 2.3.1:
<br\>When I turn on lsdj with an empty memory, the song screen looks normal
<br\>(empty). I take the curser down a few rows, then back up; when I get
<br\>to the second row, the screen fills up with empty patterns. weird
<br\>Did anybody else notice this?
<br\>
<br\>Loïc
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Hi, might be some kind of problem with the song screen in 2.3.1:
<br\>When I turn on lsdj with an empty memory, the song screen looks normal
<br\>(empty). I take the curser down a few rows, then back up; when I get
<br\>to the second row, the screen fills up with empty patterns. weird
<br\>
<br\>OK, so I checked all cases except the most general ;/
<br\>
<br\>Expect an update soon...
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
2003-11-18: v2.3.2
<br\>
<br\>  * song screen bugfixed. (reported by loïc)
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi,
<br\>
<br\>i've tested out lsdj on an emulator, and it's pretty fresh, so i want
<br\>to get started using
<br\>lsdj on my classic gameboy (no colour, advance, etc).
<br\>
<br\>it looks like i'll have to use a backup system. from searching
<br\>through the archives a
<br\>bit, i've found 3 sites that seem like they're still shipping gear:
<br\>
<br\>the e-merger from:
<br\>http://www.gocybershop.ca/product_details.asp?ID=182 or
<br\>http://www.mod-chip.net/accessories/nintendo_prod5.html
<br\>
<br\>and the transferer & flash memory from:
<br\>http://www.lan-kwei.com/gbcE/
<br\>
<br\>my question is, are there any other places which seem to be reliably
<br\>shipping backup
<br\>gear?
<br\>
<br\>if not it looks like i'll get the transferer + a 16m flash card,
<br\>because i'm cheap, and it
<br\>looks like i can save 4 copies of lsdj on the 16m flash card, which
<br\>is all i'm looking
<br\>for. is there some reason this wouldn't work for my setup?
<br\>
<br\>does anyone have experience with these products or stores, or other
<br\>stores which are
<br\>currently shipping backup gear that can be used with a classic gb?
<br\>sorry for the
<br\>newbish question. i did read the wiki, but the practical purchasing
<br\>info seems to be
<br\>out of date, which is understandable.
<br\>
<br\>thanks for the help
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
this is so funny.
<br\>you can make these cartoon people do whatever.
<br\>its free to try!check it out
<br\>
<br\>http://www.hotpersonalad.com/landing.asp?afl=MYHO
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>the e-merger from:
<br\>>http://www.gocybershop.ca/product_details.asp?ID=182 or
<br\>>http://www.mod-chip.net/accessories/nintendo_prod5.html
<br\>
<br\>Never orderd from the cybershop, but i do have a pc-linker and it sucks, i
<br\>could never get it to work under winxp even with giveio so i dont recomend
<br\>it. If i were you I'd buy a e-merger from mod-chip.net which is just a part
<br\>of an affiliate program of http://www.easybuy2000.com/ They are the ones you
<br\>are really dealing with. I've ordered from them and had no problems.
<br\>
<br\>>and the transferer & flash memory from:
<br\>>http://www.lan-kwei.com/gbcE/
<br\>
<br\>Although lan-kwei says that they have it in stock, last time i checked
<br\>(about three weeks ago) they didn't, and didn't plan on getting any new
<br\>ones. But you could e-mail them and find out.
<br\>
<br\>>if not it looks like i'll get the transferer + a 16m flash card,
<br\>>because i'm cheap, and it
<br\>>looks like i can save 4 copies of lsdj on the 16m flash card, which
<br\>>is all i'm looking
<br\>>for. is there some reason this wouldn't work for my setup?
<br\>
<br\>Since you cannot buy the transferer from lan-kwei anymore, and you say that
<br\>you'd like to save 4 copies of lsdj on a card, go for the gusto and spend
<br\>the 109 bucks for the e-merger from http://www.easybuy2000.com/ this will do
<br\>exactly what you want, and will work under XP.
<br\>
<br\>Neil
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<br\>
>
<br\>>this is so funny.
<br\>>you can make these cartoon people do whatever.
<br\>>its free to try!check it out
<br\>
<br\>NURSE, get this ass banned!!
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Message:
<br\>
hi, i'm sorry if this is against the rules of the group or if this
<br\>has been answered before, but does anyone know is this exchanger,
<br\>http://ps2modchip.com/search.php?page=pclinker will let me put lsdj
<br\>on a cart and use the save function, or should i get this one,
<br\>http://ps2modchip.com/search.php?page=xchanger or does anyone know a
<br\>better one that will let me use the save function and put multiple
<br\>roms on one cart. thank you very much
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
The wiki ( http://wiki.littlesounddj.com ) covers a lot. Look at this
<br\>particular one for example
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/awkiawki/index.cgi/BungXchanger
<br\>>
<br\>>hi, i'm sorry if this is against the rules of the group or if this
<br\>>has been answered before, but does anyone know is this exchanger,
<br\>>http://ps2modchip.com/search.php?page=pclinker will let me put lsdj
<br\>>on a cart and use the save function, or should i get this one,
<br\>>http://ps2modchip.com/search.php?page=xchanger or does anyone know a
<br\>>better one that will let me use the save function and put multiple
<br\>>roms on one cart. thank you very much
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
aah, rad!
<br\>
<br\>yeah, at the time it sounded like scrolling would be impossible, but
<br\>it's cool to see ... just an aesthetic thing really but nice and
<br\>slick ;D
<br\>
<br\>the old non-scrolling gave a little restraint to how i set up my live
<br\>chains ... it'll be interesting to see if things change now heh.
<br\>
<br\>thanks for all the recent updates johan!
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@l...> wrote:
<br\>> 2003-11-17: v2.3.1
<br\>>
<br\>>  * updated song screen. now has a scrolling window so you can
<br\>always see the chains around the cursor. (original idea by starpaws
<br\>for 1.000.000 years ago (i think))
<br\>>  * changed back behavior in SONG and CHAIN screen. won't wrap from
<br\>FE->00 when pressing A+UP. and now i'll leave it like this for a
<br\>while...
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>I happen to have both an X-changer and the PC-linker and both work
<br\>great with LSDJ.  Frankly I find the PC-linker to be seamless to use
<br\>with one caveat, I run it under Win98.  I have heard many people
<br\>complaining of problems with WinXP and I haven't tried that yet, but
<br\>it wouldn't surprise me.
<br\>
<br\>I just got my Linker a few days ago, dropped the CD-ROM in, it
<br\>booted up the transfer software automatically, I set up the romz I
<br\>wanted to flash, hit the write button, turned on the Gameboy and
<br\>within 5 minutes had 2 copies of LSDJ, 1 copy of Pocket Music, and
<br\>Kirby's Pinball all ready to go. Couldn't have been easier.
<br\>
<br\>X-changer isn't bad either, though I've had a harder time with it
<br\>doing multicarts and it's more expensive.
<br\>
<br\>Good luck,
<br\>
<br\>morplett
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
At 15:34 2003-11-18 +0000, you wrote:
<br\>>aah, rad!
<br\>>
<br\>>yeah, at the time it sounded like scrolling would be impossible, but
<br\>>it's cool to see ... just an aesthetic thing really but nice and
<br\>>slick ;D
<br\>
<br\>I'd say that it is functional too.
<br\>
<br\>/Autoboy
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
For those of you in or near NYC, I'm performing this Thursday at an event
<br\>here in the East Village.  It's looking to be pretty cool, sort of a
<br\>celebration of video game culture, called Gamers' Nite Groove.  It's taking
<br\>place at a video game lounge called Game Time Nation, I'm told they have a
<br\>bunch of large-screen TVs with XBox and PS2 consoles, and Namco will be
<br\>there with some of their new games and with some pre-release versions of
<br\>upcoming games.  I'm playing two sets (don't have specific times yet), and
<br\>there'll be a DJ spinning as well (DJ Prozac).  There'll be a bunch of other
<br\>goodies too.  Come out if you can -- this'll be my first show in a while so
<br\>I'm a little nervous.  Come watch me fuck up.
<br\>
<br\>    ::  BIT SHIFTER @ GAMERS NITE GROOVE @ GAME TIME NATION 11 20 2003
<br\>    .:  Thursday, 11 20 2003 : 8:00 PM
<br\>    .:  Game Time Nation
<br\>    .:  111 East 12th St. New York NY 10003
<br\>    .:  (212) 228-4260
<br\>    .:  $ 7.00 in advance
<br\>    .:  $10.00 at door
<br\>
<br\>    .:  http://www.bitshifter.cc/events.php
<br\>    .:  http://game.newyork-tokyo.com/
<br\>    .:  http://www.gametimenation.com/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>- Josh / BS >
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>.: BIT SHIFTER ::.:..:::.::.. ::. .:::. ::.:..
<br\>.: http://www.bitshifter.cc/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> great with LSDJ.  Frankly I find the PC-linker to be seamless to use
<br\>> with one caveat, I run it under Win98.  I have heard many people
<br\>> complaining of problems with WinXP and I haven't tried that yet, but
<br\>> it wouldn't surprise me.
<br\>
<br\>Using giveio with winxp has worked perfectly for me with all the parallel
<br\>port linkers. Yeah, it took some work and research to figure it out, but it
<br\>eventually did.
<br\>
<br\>Morplett, have you tried using multiple copies of lsdj on the pc-linker? I
<br\>seemed to always be using the same 'save space' (for lack of a better term),
<br\>so changes in one copy were reflected in another copy. I always had better
<br\>options, so I never continued my investigation of multiple copies on the
<br\>pc-linker.
<br\>


Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] Bit Shifter >> live show 2003 11 20

Message:
<br\>
sounds cool i will try attend :)
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "Bit Shifter >>" <bitshifter@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 3:08 PM
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] Bit Shifter >> live show 2003 11 20
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> For those of you in or near NYC, I'm performing this Thursday at an event
<br\>> here in the East Village.  It's looking to be pretty cool, sort of a
<br\>> celebration of video game culture, called Gamers' Nite Groove.  It's
<br\>taking
<br\>> place at a video game lounge called Game Time Nation, I'm told they have a
<br\>> bunch of large-screen TVs with XBox and PS2 consoles, and Namco will be
<br\>> there with some of their new games and with some pre-release versions of
<br\>> upcoming games.  I'm playing two sets (don't have specific times yet), and
<br\>> there'll be a DJ spinning as well (DJ Prozac).  There'll be a bunch of
<br\>other
<br\>> goodies too.  Come out if you can -- this'll be my first show in a while
<br\>so
<br\>> I'm a little nervous.  Come watch me fuck up.
<br\>>
<br\>>    ::  BIT SHIFTER @ GAMERS NITE GROOVE @ GAME TIME NATION 11 20 2003
<br\>>    .:  Thursday, 11 20 2003 : 8:00 PM
<br\>>    .:  Game Time Nation
<br\>>    .:  111 East 12th St. New York NY 10003
<br\>>    .:  (212) 228-4260
<br\>>    .:  $ 7.00 in advance
<br\>>    .:  $10.00 at door
<br\>>
<br\>>    .:  http://www.bitshifter.cc/events.php
<br\>>    .:  http://game.newyork-tokyo.com/
<br\>>    .:  http://www.gametimenation.com/
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> - Josh / BS >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> .: BIT SHIFTER ::.:..:::.::.. ::. .:::. ::.:..
<br\>> .: http://www.bitshifter.cc/
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
thanks for all the help, but will the pc linker let you put as many
<br\>copies of ldsj on the same cart? and does it have all the saving
<br\>space that the real lsdj carts have? because what i really want to do
<br\>is get two carts both with two copies of nanoloop and two copies of
<br\>lsdj on both. if anyone can help that would be great, thank you
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Using giveio with winxp has worked perfectly for me with all the parallel
<br\>>port linkers.
<br\>
<br\>David, what did you have to set your parallel port to in BIOS (e.g.
<br\>SPP/ECP/EPP) to get giveio to work with  a PC-linker?
<br\>
<br\>Just wondering...
<br\>
<br\>Neil
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
2003-11-20: v2.3.3
<br\>
<br\>  * implemented separate numbering for different channels.
<br\>  * possibly fixed a bug in phrase screen. sometimes it was impossible to insert
<br\>new instruments.
<br\>  * fixed a bug that sometimes caused a scary "purge sequencer" report.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> David, what did you have to set your parallel port to in BIOS (e.g.
<br\>> SPP/ECP/EPP) to get giveio to work with  a PC-linker?
<br\>
<br\>I recall trying two different settings, now, to get it to work. Don't
<br\>remember which, but I think it was the second most 'advanced' of the three.
<br\>
<br\>I suggest trying each one once until it works (starting with whichever one
<br\>is the most 'sophisticated' or whatever).
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@l...> wrote:
<br\>> 2003-11-20: v2.3.3
<br\>>
<br\>>  * implemented separate numbering for different channels.
<br\>
<br\>ok i don't want to sound like a bitch, i'm always grateful for
<br\>updates (and so many recently ;), so first off, thanks again johan!
<br\>
<br\>but then, i don't dig this separate numbering convention ...
<br\>
<br\>not that i ever really use any convention when i am working, but this
<br\>convention seems weird ... and makes it harder for me to have a gut
<br\>feeling about how many chains i have free.
<br\>
<br\>for newbies, it's yet another mysterious quirk ... yes A+A still
<br\>gives a new chain, but the numbers jump all over!
<br\>
<br\>also, i keep track of what channel my chains belong on by keeping
<br\>them there. from an interface design point of view, i don't think
<br\>it's necessary to have any additional reminders about this ...
<br\>
<br\>on the other hand, this convention would have been helpful when i had
<br\>a crash and all my chains were still in tact but just randomly placed
<br\>all over the song screen.
<br\>
<br\>maybe this is a step twords being able to set left and right globaly
<br\>for a channel while in live mode ;D ok i know i'm bad. but to address
<br\>the comment that you can get around needing this feature by planning
<br\>ahead wisely, i just don't think that's true.
<br\>
<br\>i play a lot of odd shows where i don't know what i'll be going
<br\>into ... mono amp, full fledged mixer, if the channels will be split
<br\>to mix seperetly, etc ... having stuff set up ahead of time for
<br\>oprotunities where two channels are seperatly controlable is cool,
<br\>but then you've got to ruin all your stereo seperation to play a gig.
<br\>not the end of the world, but still a big enough pain that i'd like
<br\>to avoid it ;D
<br\>
<br\>and yeah, if you want to be a "DJ for real" u can use 2 gameboys, but
<br\>honestly i like being a fake dj, and i don't like playing more than
<br\>one gameboy at once. it's so fun to be able to sit and hack at just
<br\>one thing and control all that sound!
<br\>
<br\>sure, what i'm doing now works ... i just kind of play "memory" when
<br\>i'm bringing patterns in, i guess at what will sound right and then i
<br\>get all touchy-feely with the muting, bringing the new channel in for
<br\>a second once in a while ... when i think it won't ruin the whole mix
<br\>if it's got a different groove than the rest of what's playing.
<br\>
<br\>if a 2nd mixer channel or something was set up for monitoring, then i
<br\>wouldn't have to play memory so much as i could hear different
<br\>patterns, but maybe my mixes would evolve more slowly because i'd be
<br\>sifting through shit looking for something just right instead of
<br\>challenging myself by dealing with what i've got. maybe my head is
<br\>just warped from playing too much tetris attacks.
<br\>
<br\>alright i'm sure this is long enough
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi
<br\>
<br\>i havn't said much about this wrapping issue, because i'm fine with
<br\>it either way really, but in the user interface and design course i'm
<br\>in right now one of the things we look for when evaluating is
<br\>consistancy.
<br\>
<br\>if the values for chains don't wrap, why do the values for phrases in
<br\>the chains? and then why do notes wrap?
<br\>
<br\>honestly i'd really like it if notes remained wrapping, taping
<br\>up/down is a _little_ faster than holding up/down to go between low
<br\>and high octive values for percussive instruments on PU1 and NOI
<br\>channels.
<br\>
<br\>another interface issue i think i mentioned is some sort of map to
<br\>let users know where they are in the world of LSDj. i think some
<br\>compact grid/map with a position indicator would be a much more
<br\>valuble use of screen space than the current SS and CP position
<br\>indicators.
<br\>
<br\>the information provided by SS and CP is fairly evident from cursor
<br\>position. it is literally already visible in the CHAIN screen and can
<br\>be easily guessed in the SONG screen.
<br\>
<br\>also, the place SS and CP is visible in every screen (including
<br\>frame). on top of that, CP is useful only in the PHRASE screen where
<br\>you may forget what chain possition you're editing, whereas a global
<br\>map would be useful in all screens.
<br\>
<br\>i suppose you could agruee once a user knows the program, navigation
<br\>is easy ... but i still wind up mashing SELECT+DIRECTIONALPAD once in
<br\>a while, and a position indicator would be good feedback from the
<br\>program to the user . . .
<br\>
<br\>sorry if this is too much interface discussion. my class gets me into
<br\>the mindset and then getting to apply it all to something i care
<br\>about is fun.
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> >  * implemented separate numbering for different channels.
<br\>>
<br\>> not that i ever really use any convention when i am working, but this
<br\>> convention seems weird ... and makes it harder for me to have a gut
<br\>> feeling about how many chains i have free.
<br\>>
<br\>> for newbies, it's yet another mysterious quirk ... yes A+A still
<br\>> gives a new chain, but the numbers jump all over!
<br\>
<br\>I'd say it could be helpful for newbies. It makes it easier to understand that
<br\>chains and phrases aren't really interchangable between channels... I think that
<br\>is one of the hardest things to get in the beginning.
<br\>
<br\>I think we can run with this for a while, it's hard to evaluate without actually
<br\>using and getting used to it. Sure, now it feels weird, but maybe you will start
<br\>to like it later. It definitely makes things more structured and it doesn't
<br\>really hurt anyone.
<br\>
<br\>> on the other hand, this convention would have been helpful when i had
<br\>> a crash and all my chains were still in tact but just randomly placed
<br\>> all over the song screen.
<br\>
<br\>Exactly. It happened to me more than once that I deleted or changed the number
<br\>of a chain or phrase by mistake, and then had to try go dig it up. Then it would
<br\>be nice to know that all wave phrases start with 2 or 5... (for example)
<br\>
<br\>> maybe this is a step twords being able to set left and right globaly
<br\>> for a channel while in live mode ;D ok i know i'm bad.
<br\>
<br\>It's on my "to do" list...
<br\>
<br\>Thanks for the feedback!
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> if the values for chains don't wrap, why do the values for phrases in
<br\>> the chains? and then why do notes wrap?
<br\>
<br\>Why phrases wrap in chain screen: This is probably a CVS screwup with the latest
<br\>update. It's not supposed to be like that... I'll fix...
<br\>
<br\>Why notes wrap: I see note data as relative, not absolute. If marking a block of
<br\>notes and doing SELECT+DOWN, the notes in the block are supposed to keep their
<br\>internal relations no matter what. I.e. it should be possible to change back to
<br\>how it was before with just doing SELECT+UP.
<br\>
<br\>> i suppose you could agruee once a user knows the program, navigation
<br\>> is easy ... but i still wind up mashing SELECT+DIRECTIONALPAD once in
<br\>> a while, and a position indicator would be good feedback from the
<br\>> program to the user . . .
<br\>
<br\>We are working on this in our interface design class ;)  Expect radical
<br\>changes...
<br\>
<br\>I guess the SS/CP marker could be combined to one row, as the SS info is only
<br\>interesting in the song screen, and the CP marker is only interesting in the
<br\>chain and phrase screen...
<br\>
<br\>I guess tempo information might be redundant aswell, since it's easy to hear how
<br\>fast the song is...
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> not that i ever really use any convention when i am working, but this
<br\>> convention seems weird ... and makes it harder for me to have a gut
<br\>
<br\>Hmm... I have been sitting a bit more with it now... I think it feels weird
<br\>because it's obvious the system kind of takes over and tries to decide what's
<br\>best for you. This goes pretty much against the style of the rest of the
<br\>program. Also it's a bit harder to predict what digit will pop up.
<br\>
<br\>One of the reasons I put it in, is that in other programs (read: Musicline) I
<br\>Always organize it like this. Different numbering for different channels... and
<br\>when I got the ability to choose it myself, somehow it makes perfect sense,
<br\>because it keeps similar parts grouped together...
<br\>
<br\>Maybe another way to use this idea of separate numbering, would be to do
<br\>something like this... If you want the numbering for a channel to start at 20,
<br\>you can scroll up with A+UP and leave it at 20. And from then on, double-tap on
<br\>that channel will allocate new chains from 20 and upwards...
<br\>
<br\>I'll leave the current behavior for evaluation for a while, then we can decide
<br\>if it's good, bad or should be left as an option...
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I need to check out this new stuff.
<br\>I'm not sure I understand exactly how seperate numbering works - but
<br\>I'll find out soon.
<br\>I did want to mention I try to normally keep seperate numbering
<br\>anyway, but you can put a pulse chain in a wave chain, or a noise
<br\>chain in a pulse chain and get cool results, even though you're not
<br\>really supposed to do things like that...
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@l...> wrote:
<br\>> 2003-11-20: v2.3.3
<br\>>
<br\>>  * implemented separate numbering for different channels.
<br\>>  * possibly fixed a bug in phrase screen. sometimes it was
<br\>impossible to insert new instruments.
<br\>>  * fixed a bug that sometimes caused a scary "purge sequencer"
<br\>report.
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I helped organize this gameboy music contest on SpikeTV.com. I'm trying
<br\>to spread the word fast because they got started very late and left
<br\>very little time for people to enter the thing. The deadline is Monday.
<br\>Please feel free to post this yourselves elsewhere. There is very
<br\>little time to get the word out so the more the better.
<br\>
<br\>Here's the link:
<br\>http://www.spiketv.com
<br\>(click "Vote Now" and then click "Contest" at top right.)
<br\>
<br\>The deadline is Monday, so go enter now if you are interested.
<br\>
<br\>Here's a the info (briefly)
<br\>Spike TV, an American cable network, is covering the Videogame Awards
<br\>on December 2 in Las Vegas. They decided it would be interesting to run
<br\>a contest for the best gameboy music on their site as a promo for the
<br\>TV coverage. They are also running a best "machinima" animation contest
<br\>concurrently (for more on that, see the site or www.illclan.com). One
<br\>gameboy music winner will get US $500 as will the machinima winner.
<br\>I wanted to get this going earlier so that more of us could enter, but
<br\>they were swamped with work on other parts of the site. I'm very sorry
<br\>for the late notice.
<br\>Basically you just go to the site, read the entry rules and fill out
<br\>the form with a link to a song. I worked to get the entry rules
<br\>somewhat loose so that it would encompass more styles. Good luck.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>/chris
<br\>
<br\>glomag
<br\>music from laptop and gameboys
<br\>http://www.bongdern.com/glomag
<br\>


Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] gameboy music contest on Spiketv.com

Message:
<br\>
I entered...
<br\>Good luck kidz!
<br\>
<br\>-naughtyboy
<br\>
<br\>-----Original Message-----
<br\>From: chris burke <cburke@...>
<br\>Sent: Nov 20, 2003 12:22 PM
<br\>To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] gameboy music contest on Spiketv.com
<br\>
<br\>I helped organize this gameboy music contest on SpikeTV.com. I'm trying
<br\>to spread the word fast because they got started very late and left
<br\>very little time for people to enter the thing. The deadline is Monday.
<br\>Please feel free to post this yourselves elsewhere. There is very
<br\>little time to get the word out so the more the better.
<br\>
<br\>Here's the link:
<br\>http://www.spiketv.com
<br\>(click "Vote Now" and then click "Contest" at top right.)
<br\>
<br\>The deadline is Monday, so go enter now if you are interested.
<br\>
<br\>Here's a the info (briefly)
<br\>Spike TV, an American cable network, is covering the Videogame Awards
<br\>on December 2 in Las Vegas. They decided it would be interesting to run
<br\>a contest for the best gameboy music on their site as a promo for the
<br\>TV coverage. They are also running a best "machinima" animation contest
<br\>concurrently (for more on that, see the site or www.illclan.com). One
<br\>gameboy music winner will get US $500 as will the machinima winner.
<br\>I wanted to get this going earlier so that more of us could enter, but
<br\>they were swamped with work on other parts of the site. I'm very sorry
<br\>for the late notice.
<br\>Basically you just go to the site, read the entry rules and fill out
<br\>the form with a link to a song. I worked to get the entry rules
<br\>somewhat loose so that it would encompass more styles. Good luck.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>/chris
<br\>
<br\>glomag
<br\>music from laptop and gameboys
<br\>http://www.bongdern.com/glomag
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
2003-11-21: v2.3.4
<br\>
<br\>  * reworked chain+phrase allocation routines. pressing A, A in song or chain
<br\>screens
<br\>    will now insert the first free chain or phrase with a number higher than the
<br\>one
<br\>    that was last inserted in the active channel. this makes it easier to use
<br\>separate
<br\>    numbering for different channels. (use A+UP to set a new "lowest chain" for a
<br\>    channel)
<br\>  * phrase values in chain screen won't wrap anymore. (thanks to starpaws)
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>


Subject:
v2.3.3 bug report + scrolling + midi-interface new

SubjectSrt:
v2.3.3 bug report + scrolling + midi-interface new

Message:
<br\>
Bug report V2.3.3
<br\>
<br\>When i worked in the phrase screen ( actually i worked with a drum
<br\>kit ) and then go back to the song screen, i couldn't scroll right
<br\>anymore ---> i didn't saw the cursor. I just could guess where it is.
<br\>All functions worked normal then, i could start a song etc. And i
<br\>could still work in Chain and phrase mode with cursor. But by going
<br\>back to song screen, cursor was gone. I had it more than once, but
<br\>not always.
<br\>
<br\>Song scrolling.
<br\>
<br\>Well, i am not sure if it's a good add on or not. I worked a bit in
<br\>live mode yesterday and i wasn't sure, where i am sometimes. Normally
<br\>i know by chain numbers, but it was still somehow weird. Maybe i
<br\>should just get more used to it. Maybe you could add a function in
<br\>the project screen like 'song scrolling'on/off?
<br\>
<br\>For the 'mystical' Midi-Interface:
<br\>
<br\>The new version is theoretical done. I wrote the new Software and had
<br\>a minute to test it yesterday on my new hardware that i also
<br\>finished. But it made still some weird things. So i have to find out
<br\>if it's a software thing or hardware now. I made big changes, so both
<br\>could be possible. I will know next week and get it to work aswell.
<br\>News all the time here: http://www.firestarter-music.de/hardware.htm
<br\>
<br\>greets
<br\>
<br\>firestARTer
<br\>


Subject:
Re: v2.3.3 bug report + scrolling + midi-interface new

Message:
<br\>
> The new version is theoretical done. I wrote the new Software and
<br\>had
<br\>> a minute to test it yesterday on my new hardware that i also
<br\>> finished. But it made still some weird things. So i have to find
<br\>out
<br\>> if it's a software thing or hardware now. I made big changes, so
<br\>both
<br\>> could be possible. I will know next week and get it to work aswell.
<br\>> News all the time here: http://www.firestarter-music.de/hardware.htm
<br\>
<br\>http://www.firestarter-music.de/lsdj/DSCF0002.JPG
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I have never seen a cooler looking midi device in all of my life
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>amen
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
2003-11-21: v2.3.5
<br\>
<br\>  * bugfix in song screen: sometimes cursor could jump outside song screen window
<br\>by
<br\>    switching channels in chain or phrase screens.
<br\>  * scrolling in songs creen made looser. now it will only scroll when the cursor
<br\>is
<br\>    right at the screen border.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Did something change that I don't realize?
<br\>I d/l version 2.3.3 last night and I'm unable to move the cursor
<br\>below the first row with the down arrow anymore.
<br\>
<br\>I did rename the header and put it on a multicart, so tonight I'll
<br\>try 2.3.5 by itself w/o touching anything.
<br\>
<br\>Peace,
<br\>
<br\>Bud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i got the e-merger. it's pretty good.
<br\>I got it the day after the recieved my money.
<br\>Very fast!!!!
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "paelon" <paelon@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:51 AM
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] available backup gear
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> hi,
<br\>>
<br\>> i've tested out lsdj on an emulator, and it's pretty fresh, so i want
<br\>> to get started using
<br\>> lsdj on my classic gameboy (no colour, advance, etc).
<br\>>
<br\>> it looks like i'll have to use a backup system. from searching
<br\>> through the archives a
<br\>> bit, i've found 3 sites that seem like they're still shipping gear:
<br\>>
<br\>> the e-merger from:
<br\>> http://www.gocybershop.ca/product_details.asp?ID=182 or
<br\>> http://www.mod-chip.net/accessories/nintendo_prod5.html
<br\>>
<br\>> and the transferer & flash memory from:
<br\>> http://www.lan-kwei.com/gbcE/
<br\>>
<br\>> my question is, are there any other places which seem to be reliably
<br\>> shipping backup
<br\>> gear?
<br\>>
<br\>> if not it looks like i'll get the transferer + a 16m flash card,
<br\>> because i'm cheap, and it
<br\>> looks like i can save 4 copies of lsdj on the 16m flash card, which
<br\>> is all i'm looking
<br\>> for. is there some reason this wouldn't work for my setup?
<br\>>
<br\>> does anyone have experience with these products or stores, or other
<br\>> stores which are
<br\>> currently shipping backup gear that can be used with a classic gb?
<br\>> sorry for the
<br\>> newbish question. i did read the wiki, but the practical purchasing
<br\>> info seems to be
<br\>> out of date, which is understandable.
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks for the help
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
2003-11-21: v2.3.6
<br\>
<br\>  * when allocating a new instrument in phrase screen by pressing A,A in the
<br\>instrument
<br\>    column, the instrument type will be pre-selected after which channel you are
<br\>using.
<br\>    (PU1,PU2=>PULSE; WAV=>WAVE; NOI=>NOISE)
<br\>  * bugfix: problems with speech instrument (since 2.1.9) was fixed. (thanks to
<br\>covox for
<br\>    reporting)
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So, I ordered an e-merger off of www.easybuy2000.com, which came with
<br\>one flash cartridge. It works great, and I got it started within 45 seconds. I
<br\>want some more cartridges, but I don't know where to go next. Well, I at least
<br\>found one workable burner.
<br\>
<br\>Kyle
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Yeah, I'm looking for some more cards also. I have emailed Easybuy2000 but
<br\>didn't get any answer. First they said they don't sell the carts alone but
<br\>there is an internetadres where you can.
<br\>http://www.mod-chip.net/accessories/nintendo_prod5.html I don't know why
<br\>didn't respond on this email. Maybe you can try?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "Kyle Kelley" <ropetechie@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 5:29 AM
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] E-merger works...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>         So, I ordered an e-merger off of www.easybuy2000.com, which came
<br\>with one flash cartridge. It works great, and I got it started within 45
<br\>seconds. I want some more cartridges, but I don't know where to go next.
<br\>Well, I at least found one workable burner.
<br\>>
<br\>> Kyle
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
>Did something change that I don't realize?
<br\>>I d/l version 2.3.3 last night and I'm unable to move the cursor
<br\>>below the first row with the down arrow anymore.
<br\>
<br\>Actually not! Scrolling in song screen is now "line by line" instead of
<br\>"screen by screen". When you move beyond 0F, the screen will scroll only one
<br\>row. If you place a chain anywhere it will become very obvious.
<br\>
<br\>                                                     /nitro2k01
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Message:
<br\>
Glad to see more happy eMerger users. My unit hasn't failed me since I bought
<br\>it, and
<br\>I use it a damn lot!
<br\>
<br\>> Yeah, I'm looking for some more cards also.
<br\>
<br\>Me too. If anyone finds a source, please post, because I need a new cart so I
<br\>can buy
<br\>an extra white brick and link'em together.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
does anyone know if the gameboy lights sound as good as the old big
<br\>ones? because having the backlit screen would be awesome for the
<br\>stage.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
They don't.  Kind of thin-sounding.  Maybe with the ProSound mod it would
<br\>sound better, anyone tried this?  I haven't, I know I would totally fuck it
<br\>up.
<br\>
<br\>- Josh
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>on 11/24/03 10:10 AM, likeallthelights at iloverorygilmore@...
<br\>wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> does anyone know if the gameboy lights sound as good as the old big
<br\>> ones? because having the backlit screen would be awesome for the
<br\>> stage.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>.: BIT SHIFTER ::.:..:::.::.. ::. .:::. ::.:..
<br\>.: http://www.bitshifter.cc/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi boys,
<br\>
<br\>gwEm just finished a design for an analog LSDj Pitch Controller :)  This one
<br\>looks really easy to build aswell! Great for making it run in pace with your
<br\>other stuff... For exampe 7" vynils...
<br\>
<br\>http://www.preromanbritain.com/gwem/lsdj_pitch/
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
bud, if you're not talking about the new scrolling feature and by
<br\>first row you mean the top row in the song screen (durr), you may
<br\>have a problem i've experienced ...
<br\>
<br\>just check and make sure the SUBSONG number is set correctly, i've
<br\>had 0 or other strange values in there that had me stuck in the 1st
<br\>row ...
<br\>
<br\>hope you're free again soon ;D
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "nitro2k01 formerly known as Lennart Ek"
<br\><lennartek@h...> wrote:
<br\>> >Did something change that I don't realize?
<br\>> >I d/l version 2.3.3 last night and I'm unable to move the cursor
<br\>> >below the first row with the down arrow anymore.
<br\>>
<br\>> Actually not! Scrolling in song screen is now "line by line"
<br\>instead of
<br\>> "screen by screen". When you move beyond 0F, the screen will scroll
<br\>only one
<br\>> row. If you place a chain anywhere it will become very obvious.
<br\>>
<br\>>                                                     /nitro2k01
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Message:
<br\>
i didn't prosound my gameboy light before it died, but i also played
<br\>a bunch of shows with it and it sounded fine for what i do.
<br\>
<br\>also, having the screen light on always added a highpitched whine
<br\>into the mix when i was using that thing. i don't think a prosound
<br\>mod would avoid that, unless it involved some extra shielding ...
<br\>
<br\>honestly, if you're looking for a +hhott+ accessory, pick up a
<br\>gameboy sp!!! it's backlit, u can flipit, add a dongle @ 3$ and
<br\>you'll be set. wh0rd HAHAhaaha
<br\>
<br\>uh but for real, the SP sounds great ... different than a gray, but
<br\>great.
<br\>
<br\>RECONSTRUCTING RICAHRD
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Bit Shifter >>" <bitshifter@a...> wrote:
<br\>> They don't.  Kind of thin-sounding.  Maybe with the ProSound mod it
<br\>would
<br\>> sound better, anyone tried this?  I haven't, I know I would totally
<br\>fuck it
<br\>> up.
<br\>>
<br\>> - Josh
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> on 11/24/03 10:10 AM, likeallthelights at iloverorygilmore@h...
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > does anyone know if the gameboy lights sound as good as the old
<br\>big
<br\>> > ones? because having the backlit screen would be awesome for the
<br\>> > stage.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> .: BIT SHIFTER ::.:..:::.::.. ::. .:::. ::.:..
<br\>> .: http://www.bitshifter.cc/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I heard a rumor that some pirated "50-in-1" GBC carts may be writable. I
<br\>even heard that some of them provide some sort of multiboot like interface
<br\>allowing you to burn data with your gameboy and a multiboot cable....
<br\>Is any of this true? Anybody have information?
<br\>
<br\>                                                       /nitro2k01
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Message:
<br\>
Hi there,
<br\>
<br\>I'm in the process of rewriting the interface.
<br\>
<br\>Here's an early screenshot:
<br\>
<br\>http://darkface.pp.se/~spleen/tmp/lsdj-neue.gif
<br\>
<br\>Screen map is in lower right, a new info/help row is in the bottom (thx to
<br\>nitro2k1 for the suggestion)...
<br\>
<br\>Comments are welcome... Negative as positive...
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
If you entered the gameboy contest on Spiketv.com and you DIDN'T SEE A
<br\>CONFIRMATION page after filling out the form please read below and
<br\>re-enter the contest.
<br\>
<br\>please go back and re-enter your track in the contest. I just found out
<br\>that there is a stupid glitch in the entry form. If you don't fill out
<br\>EVERY BOX in the form, it doesn't process the entry. There are 2 boxes
<br\>that say "Machinima" only. You have to fill those out (with "NA" or
<br\>"--" or something) or it doesn't process your entry. When you get it
<br\>right it will give you a page that confirms you entry. If you get it
<br\>wrong it displays the blank entry form again with a sentence in red
<br\>that says "Response required". It is very easy to miss this part so
<br\>please be sure you get the confirmation page.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks. Sorry for the hassle.
<br\>/chris
<br\>
<br\>IF YOU DON"T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT:
<br\>
<br\>Subject: gameboy music contest on Spiketv.com
<br\>
<br\>I helped organize this gameboy music contest on SpikeTV.com. I'm trying
<br\>to spread the word fast because they got started very late and left
<br\>very little time for people to enter the thing. The deadline is Monday.
<br\>Please feel free to post this yourselves elsewhere. There is very
<br\>little time to get the word out so the more the better.
<br\>
<br\>Here's the link:
<br\>http://www.spiketv.com
<br\>(click "Vote Now" and then click "Contest" at top right.)
<br\>
<br\>The deadline is Monday, so go enter now if you are interested.
<br\>
<br\>Here's a the info (briefly)
<br\>Spike TV, an American cable network, is covering the Videogame Awards
<br\>on December 2 in Las Vegas. They decided it would be interesting to run
<br\>a contest for the best gameboy music on their site as a promo for the
<br\>TV coverage. They are also running a best "machinima" animation contest
<br\>concurrently (for more on that, see the site or www.illclan.com). One
<br\>gameboy music winner will get US $500 as will the machinima winner.
<br\>I wanted to get this going earlier so that more of us could enter, but
<br\>they were swamped with work on other parts of the site. I'm very sorry
<br\>for the late notice.
<br\>Basically you just go to the site, read the entry rules and fill out
<br\>the form with a link to a song. I worked to get the entry rules
<br\>somewhat loose so that it would encompass more styles. Good luck.
<br\>
<br\>ADDITIONAL IMPORTANT INFO:
<br\>As stated at the top of this email, I just found out that there is a
<br\>stupid glitch in the entry form. If you don't fill out EVERY BOX in the
<br\>form, it doesn't process the entry. There are 2 boxes that say
<br\>"Machinima" only. You have to fill those out (with "NA" or "--" or
<br\>something) or it doesn't process your entry. When you get it right it
<br\>will give you a page that confirms you entry. If you get it wrong it
<br\>displays the blank entry form again with a sentence in red that says
<br\>"Response required". It is very easy to miss this part so please be
<br\>sure you get the confirmation page.
<br\>
<br\>/chris
<br\>
<br\>glomag
<br\>music from laptop and gameboys
<br\>http://www.bongdern.com/glomag
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>honestly, if you're looking for a +hhott+ accessory, pick up a
<br\>>gameboy sp!!! it's backlit, u can flipit, add a dongle @ 3$ and
<br\>>you'll be set. wh0rd HAHAhaaha
<br\>Different, huh? From what I heard it still has the "Advance Disted F***ed-up
<br\>Drum Kits (tm)" that effectively takes out any bass in a bass drum. But yeah
<br\>the screen IS great and backlit, and the battery is rechargeable (I already
<br\>use rechargeable batteries though) so there are benefits.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>/nitro2k01
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Message:
<br\>
>Screen map is in lower right, a new info/help row is in the bottom (thx to
<br\>>nitro2k1 for the suggestion)...
<br\>
<br\>First of all, that's nitro2k01, with a zero between k and 1. Dont feel any
<br\>guilt, most people dont get it right anyway, I'm just glad you used my
<br\>suggestion :)
<br\>However, what is that SS0 in the upper right corner?
<br\>
<br\>                                                           /nitro2k01
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Message:
<br\>
oh yeah for sure sample playback is FAAKED AS HEEEEL but like i said
<br\>before, it's still possible to milk some sick sounds out of a kits
<br\>using those hidden distortions. sick bassy sounds mind you.
<br\>
<br\>> Different, huh? From what I heard it still has the "Advance Disted
<br\>F***ed-up
<br\>> Drum Kits (tm)" that effectively takes out any bass in a bass drum.
<br\>But yeah
<br\>> the screen IS great and backlit, and the battery is rechargeable (I
<br\>already
<br\>> use rechargeable batteries though) so there are benefits.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>> /nitro2k01
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Message:
<br\>
looks nice ...
<br\>
<br\>i don't dj so i'm not sure if it would be cool or not, but i thought
<br\>it would be rad if this thing let you push or pull the play arrow
<br\>forward or back too ... for lineing things up .  . .
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@l...> wrote:
<br\>> Hi boys,
<br\>>
<br\>> gwEm just finished a design for an analog LSDj Pitch Controller :)
<br\>This one
<br\>> looks really easy to build aswell! Great for making it run in pace
<br\>with your
<br\>> other stuff... For exampe 7" vynils...
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.preromanbritain.com/gwem/lsdj_pitch/
<br\>>
<br\>> Cheers,
<br\>> Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yeah that luxerious long scroller looks delish ...
<br\>
<br\>the map looks awesome as well, except it doesn't look like it has the
<br\>same structure as previous versions? is that changing as well?
<br\>
<br\>having the letters in the map is a bit strange, since it's hard to
<br\>tell what each means w/o knowing the map, but maybe a good reminder
<br\>anyway (could be better than something less informative as long as
<br\>it's not confusing).
<br\>
<br\>just asthetics. .. i could see this new look  being called cramped
<br\>compared to the old one (less white space seperating things), but i
<br\>think maybe tight or solid would be way better adjetives ;D
<br\>
<br\>very cool, i want it now!!! hheh
<br\>
<br\>j.ordan
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Johan Kotlinski" <johan@l...> wrote:
<br\>> Hi there,
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm in the process of rewriting the interface.
<br\>>
<br\>> Here's an early screenshot:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://darkface.pp.se/~spleen/tmp/lsdj-neue.gif
<br\>>
<br\>> Screen map is in lower right, a new info/help row is in the bottom
<br\>(thx to nitro2k1 for the suggestion)...
<br\>>
<br\>> Comments are welcome... Negative as positive...
<br\>>
<br\>> Cheers,
<br\>> Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi
<br\>
<br\>I recently purchased a gamejack and I cant get it to work.  I don't know if it
<br\>is my cable, the hardware itselfm, or that i'm using windows xp.  when i set
<br\>everything up it just doesn't work.  I've ben able to get the lights to flash
<br\>like its doing something but nothing happens.  Also when i put my 64mb rumble
<br\>catr in my gameboy and boot up with it set to MCB1 i get ROM and SRAM errors. 
<br\>If anyone can help me i would very much apreciate it.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Devon
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
there was already a lot of talking about the gamejack in this group, check the
<br\>archive and search for 'gamejack' :) I have one and I got it to work after a lot
<br\>of trying.
<br\>
<br\>Wauter
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Devon Beckett
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:16 PM
<br\>   Subject: [LSDj!] gamejack
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Hi
<br\>
<br\>   I recently purchased a gamejack and I cant get it to work.  I don't know if it
<br\>is my cable, the hardware itselfm, or that i'm using windows xp.  when i set
<br\>everything up it just doesn't work.  I've ben able to get the lights to flash
<br\>like its doing something but nothing happens.  Also when i put my 64mb rumble
<br\>catr in my gameboy and boot up with it set to MCB1 i get ROM and SRAM errors. 
<br\>If anyone can help me i would very much apreciate it.
<br\>
<br\>   Thanks,
<br\>   Devon
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Due to the quirks on the entry form at SpikeTV.com, they have extended
<br\>the contest submission deadline. If anyone is not sure that the entry
<br\>form worked correctly (didn't get a confirmation page) please REPLY TO
<br\>THIS EMAIL with:
<br\>
<br\>name
<br\>phone number
<br\>link to track
<br\>
<br\>I will be glad to make sure that everyone who wants to enter the
<br\>contest will get in.
<br\>
<br\>And once again sorry for all the emails.
<br\>
<br\>/chris
<br\>(glomag)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>(background info)
<br\>Subject: gameboy music contest on Spiketv.com
<br\>
<br\>Spike TV, an American cable network, is covering the Videogame Awards
<br\>on December 2 in Las Vegas. They decided it would be interesting to run
<br\>a contest for the best gameboy music on their site as a promo for the
<br\>TV coverage. They are also running a best "machinima" animation contest
<br\>concurrently (for more on that, see the site or www.illclan.com). One
<br\>gameboy music winner will get US $500 as will the machinima winner.
<br\>I wanted to get this going earlier so that more of us could enter, but
<br\>they were swamped with work on other parts of the site. I'm very sorry
<br\>for the late notice.
<br\>Basically you just go to the site, read the entry rules and fill out
<br\>the form with a link to a song. I worked to get the entry rules
<br\>somewhat loose so that it would encompass more styles. Good luck.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>glomag
<br\>music from laptop and gameboys
<br\>http://www.bongdern.com/glomag
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi there,
<br\>
<br\>i am not really sure, if my Track is submitted well. So here are my
<br\>informations:
<br\>
<br\>Thomas Margolf
<br\>Germany
<br\>Phone +49 172 5735955
<br\>Track:
<br\>http://firestarter.my-vserver.de/spiketv/cuteinvasion_by_firestARTer.mp3
<br\>nothing else than Gameboy used for this track!
<br\>email: firestarter@...
<br\>
<br\>thank you and greets from germany
<br\>
<br\>Thomas  firestARTer :-)
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "chris burke" <cburke@...>
<br\>To: <info@...>
<br\>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:08 PM
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] Gameboy contest extension
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Due to the quirks on the entry form at SpikeTV.com, they have extended
<br\>> the contest submission deadline. If anyone is not sure that the entry
<br\>> form worked correctly (didn't get a confirmation page) please REPLY TO
<br\>> THIS EMAIL with:
<br\>>
<br\>> name
<br\>> phone number
<br\>> link to track
<br\>>
<br\>> I will be glad to make sure that everyone who wants to enter the
<br\>> contest will get in.
<br\>>
<br\>> And once again sorry for all the emails.
<br\>>
<br\>> /chris
<br\>> (glomag)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> (background info)
<br\>> Subject: gameboy music contest on Spiketv.com
<br\>>
<br\>> Spike TV, an American cable network, is covering the Videogame Awards
<br\>> on December 2 in Las Vegas. They decided it would be interesting to run
<br\>> a contest for the best gameboy music on their site as a promo for the
<br\>> TV coverage. They are also running a best "machinima" animation contest
<br\>> concurrently (for more on that, see the site or www.illclan.com). One
<br\>> gameboy music winner will get US $500 as will the machinima winner.
<br\>> I wanted to get this going earlier so that more of us could enter, but
<br\>> they were swamped with work on other parts of the site. I'm very sorry
<br\>> for the late notice.
<br\>> Basically you just go to the site, read the entry rules and fill out
<br\>> the form with a link to a song. I worked to get the entry rules
<br\>> somewhat loose so that it would encompass more styles. Good luck.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> glomag
<br\>> music from laptop and gameboys
<br\>> http://www.bongdern.com/glomag
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
Haha....
<br\>
<br\>and now everybody call me please!!!!!
<br\>Yeah!!
<br\>Silly firestARTer, hehe
<br\>
<br\>:-)
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> the map looks awesome as well, except it doesn't look like it has the
<br\>> same structure as previous versions? is that changing as well?
<br\>
<br\>It's changing... It's more like a 5x3 structure. The most used screens are layed
<br\>out in one row (song, chain, phrase, instr, table).
<br\>
<br\>> having the letters in the map is a bit strange, since it's hard to
<br\>> tell what each means w/o knowing the map, but maybe a good reminder
<br\>> anyway (could be better than something less informative as long as
<br\>> it's not confusing).
<br\>
<br\>I think it will help orientation, especially as the shape of the map will change
<br\>as you move around. You'll see later!
<br\>
<br\>> just asthetics. .. i could see this new look  being called cramped
<br\>> compared to the old one (less white space seperating things), but i
<br\>> think maybe tight or solid would be way better adjetives ;D
<br\>
<br\>Yep, it's not as clean and airy as before. But for a good cause... And on CGB it
<br\>can still look pretty clean, depending on how you set the colors.
<br\>
<br\>I'll release the next version within a few days...
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
does anyone have a cart of pushpin?? i really want to make a rom of
<br\>it and build a cable for it, if anyone has anything that could help i
<br\>would really appreciate it, i'm sorry that this is off topic but it's
<br\>sort of close to lsdj....right? thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
What is pushpin??
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "likeallthelights" <iloverorygilmore@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:56 PM
<br\>Subject: [LSDj!] pushpin anyone?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> does anyone have a cart of pushpin?? i really want to make a rom of
<br\>> it and build a cable for it, if anyone has anything that could help i
<br\>> would really appreciate it, i'm sorry that this is off topic but it's
<br\>> sort of close to lsdj....right? thanks
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
It's vaporware, as far as I know.  Some info exists online, courtesy of the
<br\>developers (http://www.dsperado.com/pushpin.shtml), but I never got a
<br\>response to any of my e-mails to them inquiring about it.  I asked around
<br\>the GB community briefly and the impression I got was that this was a
<br\>stalled project that never got off the ground.  I'd be happy to be wrong,
<br\>though, 'cause it sounds kind of cool -- anybody else know anything about
<br\>it?
<br\>
<br\>- Josh
<br\>
<br\>> -----Original Message-----
<br\>> From: firestARTer [mailto:firestarter@...]
<br\>>
<br\>> What is pushpin??
<br\>>
<br\>> ----- Original Message -----
<br\>> From: "likeallthelights" <iloverorygilmore@...>
<br\>>
<br\>> > does anyone have a cart of pushpin?? i really want to make a rom of
<br\>> > it and build a cable for it, if anyone has anything that
<br\>> could help i
<br\>> > would really appreciate it, i'm sorry that this is off
<br\>> topic but it's
<br\>> > sort of close to lsdj....right? thanks
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>.: BIT SHIFTER ::.:..:::.::.. ::. .:::. ::.:..
<br\>.: http://www.bitshifter.cc/
<br\>


Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] VERY IMPORTANT- RE: GAMEBOY CONTEST

Message:
<br\>
Hi:
<br\>I sent the form again and this time it showed the
<br\>confirmation screen after the entry.
<br\>I Hope this time be OK :)
<br\>Thanks a lot and I hope the jury like my music.
<br\>My best Regards. Ignacio
<br\>
<br\>  --- chris burke <cburke@...> escribió: > If
<br\>you entered the gameboy contest on Spiketv.com
<br\>> and you DIDN'T SEE A
<br\>> CONFIRMATION page after filling out the form please
<br\>> read below and
<br\>> re-enter the contest.
<br\>>
<br\>> please go back and re-enter your track in the
<br\>> contest. I just found out
<br\>> that there is a stupid glitch in the entry form. If
<br\>> you don't fill out
<br\>> EVERY BOX in the form, it doesn't process the entry.
<br\>> There are 2 boxes
<br\>> that say "Machinima" only. You have to fill those
<br\>> out (with "NA" or
<br\>> "--" or something) or it doesn't process your entry.
<br\>> When you get it
<br\>> right it will give you a page that confirms you
<br\>> entry. If you get it
<br\>> wrong it displays the blank entry form again with a
<br\>> sentence in red
<br\>> that says "Response required". It is very easy to
<br\>> miss this part so
<br\>> please be sure you get the confirmation page.
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks. Sorry for the hassle.
<br\>> /chris
<br\>>
<br\>> IF YOU DON"T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT:
<br\>>
<br\>> Subject: gameboy music contest on Spiketv.com
<br\>>
<br\>> I helped organize this gameboy music contest on
<br\>> SpikeTV.com. I'm trying
<br\>> to spread the word fast because they got started
<br\>> very late and left
<br\>> very little time for people to enter the thing. The
<br\>> deadline is Monday.
<br\>> Please feel free to post this yourselves elsewhere.
<br\>> There is very
<br\>> little time to get the word out so the more the
<br\>> better.
<br\>>
<br\>> Here's the link:
<br\>> http://www.spiketv.com
<br\>> (click "Vote Now" and then click "Contest" at top
<br\>> right.)
<br\>>
<br\>> The deadline is Monday, so go enter now if you are
<br\>> interested.
<br\>>
<br\>> Here's a the info (briefly)
<br\>> Spike TV, an American cable network, is covering the
<br\>> Videogame Awards
<br\>> on December 2 in Las Vegas. They decided it would be
<br\>> interesting to run
<br\>> a contest for the best gameboy music on their site
<br\>> as a promo for the
<br\>> TV coverage. They are also running a best
<br\>> "machinima" animation contest
<br\>> concurrently (for more on that, see the site or
<br\>> www.illclan.com). One
<br\>> gameboy music winner will get US $500 as will the
<br\>> machinima winner.
<br\>> I wanted to get this going earlier so that more of
<br\>> us could enter, but
<br\>> they were swamped with work on other parts of the
<br\>> site. I'm very sorry
<br\>> for the late notice.
<br\>> Basically you just go to the site, read the entry
<br\>> rules and fill out
<br\>> the form with a link to a song. I worked to get the
<br\>> entry rules
<br\>> somewhat loose so that it would encompass more
<br\>> styles. Good luck.
<br\>>
<br\>> ADDITIONAL IMPORTANT INFO:
<br\>> As stated at the top of this email, I just found out
<br\>> that there is a
<br\>> stupid glitch in the entry form. If you don't fill
<br\>> out EVERY BOX in the
<br\>> form, it doesn't process the entry. There are 2
<br\>> boxes that say
<br\>> "Machinima" only. You have to fill those out (with
<br\>> "NA" or "--" or
<br\>> something) or it doesn't process your entry. When
<br\>> you get it right it
<br\>> will give you a page that confirms you entry. If you
<br\>> get it wrong it
<br\>> displays the blank entry form again with a sentence
<br\>> in red that says
<br\>> "Response required". It is very easy to miss this
<br\>> part so please be
<br\>> sure you get the confirmation page.
<br\>>
<br\>> /chris
<br\>>
<br\>> glomag
<br\>> music from laptop and gameboys
<br\>> http://www.bongdern.com/glomag
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
It may exist after all.  Came across this -- kind of interesting.
<br\>http://www.gweep.net/~shifty/portfolio/pushpin/
<br\>
<br\>- Josh
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> -----Original Message-----
<br\>> From: firestARTer [mailto:firestarter@...]
<br\>>
<br\>> What is pushpin??
<br\>>
<br\>> ----- Original Message -----
<br\>> From: "likeallthelights" <iloverorygilmore@...>
<br\>>
<br\>> > does anyone have a cart of pushpin?? i really want to make a rom of
<br\>> > it and build a cable for it, if anyone has anything that
<br\>> could help i
<br\>> > would really appreciate it, i'm sorry that this is off
<br\>> topic but it's
<br\>> > sort of close to lsdj....right? thanks
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>.: BIT SHIFTER ::.:..:::.::.. ::. .:::. ::.:..
<br\>.: http://www.bitshifter.cc/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> I did want to mention I try to normally keep seperate numbering
<br\>> anyway, but you can put a pulse chain in a wave chain, or a noise
<br\>> chain in a pulse chain and get cool results, even though you're not
<br\>> really supposed to do things like that...
<br\>>
<br\>; > I ALWAYS do things like that, amazing stuff can be pulled!
<br\>
<br\>I will check out this new version as soon as I get some workload off my
<br\>back ;P
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>____ :: a k i r a _ K
<br\>/// k i k e n . c o r p o r a t i o n
<br\>______>>> <http://www.kikencorp.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
* added screen map in lower right of screen.
<br\>  * new screen layout, new row for scrolling help text.
<br\>  * changed default palette (on CGB) to "CUTE".
<br\>  * some small changes on the Y2K font, to increase legibility.
<br\>  * new screen organization:
<br\>  _______________________________________
<br\>|                       | PROJ/ |       |
<br\>|        PROJECT        | WAVE  |PROJECT|
<br\>|_______________________|_______|_______|
<br\>|       |       |       |       |       |
<br\>| SONG  | CHAIN | PHRASE| INSTR | TABLE |  <-- main row
<br\>|_______|_______|_______|_______|_______|
<br\>|                       |GROOVE/|       |
<br\>|        GROOVE         |SYNTH/ |GROOVE |
<br\>|_______________________|WORD___|_______|
<br\>
<br\>screens above and below instrument screen will change depending on the type of
<br\>the instrument being viewed.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I swear I'll only give that phone# to marketing people.
<br\>Good luck with the tune, I like the minimal intro, & the mario ode.
<br\>Good choice for a gaming awards show
<br\>-William
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "firestARTer" <firestarter@s...> wrote:
<br\>> Haha....
<br\>>
<br\>> and now everybody call me please!!!!!
<br\>> Yeah!!
<br\>> Silly firestARTer, hehe
<br\>>
<br\>> :-)
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I looked down this road before, I think they made a few units, quite
<br\>some time ago. Not vapour-ware; but not around. Brian Whitman (now at
<br\>MIT?) was the programmer. I suspect he'd be a good soource for info,
<br\>if anyone knows him.
<br\>
<br\>I played with this idea when I built my little VST, and it looks like
<br\>they addressed the port speed problem, however; the samples they have
<br\>on line implied a stripping of the midi signal either pre-serial or
<br\>during bit-read timing off of the link port. Not the worst idea!
<br\>
<br\>This makes me want to look back at that again.
<br\>Thanks for the link Josh.
<br\>
<br\>How did your show at Game Time Nation go? I'm sorry I'm not in the
<br\>city.
<br\>
<br\>-William
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Bit Shifter >>" <bitshifter@a...> wrote:
<br\>> It may exist after all.  Came across this -- kind of interesting.
<br\>> http://www.gweep.net/~shifty/portfolio/pushpin/
<br\>>
<br\>> - Josh
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > -----Original Message-----
<br\>> > From: firestARTer [mailto:firestarter@s...]
<br\>> >
<br\>> > What is pushpin??
<br\>> >
<br\>> > ----- Original Message -----
<br\>> > From: "likeallthelights" <iloverorygilmore@h...>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > does anyone have a cart of pushpin?? i really want to make a
<br\>rom of
<br\>> > > it and build a cable for it, if anyone has anything that
<br\>> > could help i
<br\>> > > would really appreciate it, i'm sorry that this is off
<br\>> > topic but it's
<br\>> > > sort of close to lsdj....right? thanks
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> .: BIT SHIFTER ::.:..:::.::.. ::. .:::. ::.:..
<br\>> .: http://www.bitshifter.cc/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I'm just hearing about this spike business
<br\>and i cant help but feel a bit funny... and maybe a bit annoyed
<br\>i read the rules... and they seem a little inconsistant.
<br\>here's a couple of cheap rants.
<br\>
<br\>- no emulators? wtf? how would those yuppies know if its an emu or
<br\>not ... maybe the "creative use of effects" (that are allowed) could
<br\>help cover it up.
<br\>or perhaps the vocals (also allowed) would drown it out. does that
<br\>sound crusty to anyone else?
<br\>
<br\>- hmmmm $500 .... that sounds like a fine price to pay for an upstart
<br\>network to jump on the bandwagon of the "new underground" and make
<br\>efforts to use, dare i say exploit, this material to hopefully
<br\>attract some of the money that might better be placed in the pockets
<br\>of the creators of such material .... just a thought. the
<br\>term "Biters" comes to mind. It's a long shot.... but does anyone
<br\>remember 'grunge' in advertising?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>how many have made entries? ... who?
<br\>do you think its responsible?
<br\>
<br\>and wow... they might actually use it on the TV! ... you could be
<br\>famous!.... and it would have normally cost spike much more...
<br\>aaaah ... sweet sweet underground
<br\>so it begins?
<br\>


Subject:
Re: [LSDj!] Anyone agree? / Spike Contest?

Message:
<br\>
> - hmmmm $500 .... that sounds like a fine price to pay for an upstart
<br\>> network to jump on the bandwagon of the "new underground" and make
<br\>> efforts to use, dare i say exploit, this material to hopefully
<br\>> attract some of the money that might better be placed in the pockets
<br\>> of the creators of such material .... just a thought. the
<br\>
<br\>I don't think the rules give SpikeTV the formal rights to use submitted material
<br\>in their shows and on the web... It just says you have "the opportunity," but
<br\>that's pretty vague... If anyone here wins and they ask if it's OK for them to
<br\>use it, I suggest you to try to set a new deal, because I agree that $500 is
<br\>really too low. Especially as they're sponsored by Pontiac, Virgin and Taco
<br\>Bell...
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi!
<br\>
<br\>I sent an email to info@... and cburke@... and they
<br\>bounced :-(
<br\>
<br\>I did my application on the site but I am not sure if it went through
<br\>OK... oh well, twiddle twiddle.
<br\>
<br\>Bags.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----=20
<br\>   From: chris burke=20
<br\>   To: info@...=20
<br\>   Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 4:08 AM
<br\>   Subject: [LSDj!] Gameboy contest extension
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Due to the quirks on the entry form at SpikeTV.com, they have
<br\>extended =
<br\>
<br\>   the contest submission deadline. If anyone is not sure that the
<br\>entry=20
<br\>   form worked correctly (didn't get a confirmation page) please REPLY
<br\>TO =
<br\>
<br\>   THIS EMAIL with:
<br\>
<br\>   name
<br\>   phone number
<br\>   link to track
<br\>
<br\>   I will be glad to make sure that everyone who wants to enter the=20
<br\>   contest will get in.
<br\>
<br\>   And once again sorry for all the emails.
<br\>
<br\>   /chris
<br\>


Subject:
Bugs and suggestions in/for new interface

SubjectSrt:
Bugs and suggestions in/for new interface

Message:
<br\>
>  * added screen map in lower right of screen.
<br\>>  * new screen layout, new row for scrolling help text.
<br\>>  * changed default palette (on CGB) to "CUTE".
<br\>>  * some small changes on the Y2K font, to increase legibility.
<br\>>  * new screen organization:
<br\>
<br\>I tried out the new version, and I tell you, I like it! But here's a bug
<br\>report and a few suggestions.
<br\>
<br\>* In keyb sync mode, the instrument number is overlapping the screenmap.
<br\>* The sync mode remains in battery RAM. I noticed this some time ago. I dont
<br\>know if this a bug or a feature...
<br\>* The deafult palette is still AMI, not CUTE.
<br\>* When you have stayed in project screen for 1 minute, the time used and
<br\>total are updated. However they are drawn one row too low (in other words
<br\>the same position as before the layout change)
<br\>
<br\>Here are my suggestions:
<br\>* Bring back the coloring the BPM and note data. it makes the screen more
<br\>organized.(It seems to be missing or poor in some color schemes)
<br\>* Shorten the help row by about five chars, and fit the keyb responce to
<br\>that area.
<br\>* Add full keyboard support (Add buttons for A and B) I understand if this
<br\>may be hard to do though, form what I've understood, you can only track key
<br\>presses, not ups and downs, at least not without polling the keyboard, so
<br\>it's not that important.
<br\>* Suggestions for the help row:
<br\>   * Use select as a hold key for help messages.
<br\>   * Use a little longer timeout. (About +2 seconds)
<br\>   * When a new help message is about to be displayed, but there already is a
<br\>message on screen, instead of overwriting the current one, add the new one
<br\>to the old one and let it scroll in from the right side of the screen. And
<br\>if the old isn't scrolled to the end, let the new one start from just right
<br\>of the screen. Also add a dot or something as a separator bewteen the two
<br\>messages. I hope I was clear enough what I meant here. Perhaps the last
<br\>suggestion isn't very good, you'll have to decide...
<br\>
<br\>bye for now...
<br\>                                                  /nitro2k01
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I don't know if that's got to with it, but the e-mail says
<br\>"info@...=20". Maybe that =20 caused some kind of error?
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>>Hi!
<br\>>
<br\>>I sent an email to info@... and cburke@... and they
<br\>>bounced :-(
<br\>>
<br\>>I did my application on the site but I am not sure if it went through
<br\>>OK... oh well, twiddle twiddle.
<br\>>
<br\>>Bags.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   ----- Original Message -----=20
<br\>>   From: chris burke=20
<br\>>   To: info@...=20
<br\>>   Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 4:08 AM
<br\>>   Subject: [LSDj!] Gameboy contest extension
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   Due to the quirks on the entry form at SpikeTV.com, they have
<br\>>extended =
<br\>>
<br\>>   the contest submission deadline. If anyone is not sure that the
<br\>>entry=20
<br\>>   form worked correctly (didn't get a confirmation page) please REPLY
<br\>>TO =
<br\>>
<br\>>   THIS EMAIL with:
<br\>>
<br\>>   name
<br\>>   phone number
<br\>>   link to track
<br\>>
<br\>>   I will be glad to make sure that everyone who wants to enter the=20
<br\>>   contest will get in.
<br\>>
<br\>>   And once again sorry for all the emails.
<br\>>
<br\>>   /chris
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ok so i have an idea, nintendo program that works like the atari
<br\>synth cart. it might not be possible, i don't know though.
<br\>ok so do you remember the old nintendo twister mats? i would write my
<br\>own program that uses that as the controller, you would probably have
<br\>to plug in a normal controller too, but anyways so i would set up the
<br\>program so that when ever you hit the top left pad on the mat the
<br\>nintendo would play a C and then if you move over on the mat and the
<br\>scale would go down by black and whites like a normal piano. then i
<br\>would take the twister mat and cut all the vinyl off because all i
<br\>really need are the triggers, i could then make my own mat with the
<br\>notes in the right order and have it be like the big floor piano in
<br\>big. or i could take the triggers and put them into a small box or
<br\>something the size of a casio. i would have to put the program on a
<br\>cartridge and on the cart you would see like a menu and it would tell
<br\>you what the synth is set at and you could change things with the
<br\>controller and play the notes with your feet, would this work at all?
<br\>can anyone help me out? am i going crazy? thanks
<br\>-eddie
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So you mean an original mat, the one you'd originally connect to a NES or
<br\>SNES? First of all DONT CUT IT OPEN! With a little tweaking, it MIGHT be
<br\>possible to connect a NES or SNES joypad, and thus this mat too, to the
<br\>gameboy link port. I'm getting ideas here... If I only had a burner so I
<br\>could test some stuff out... However, I dont get you rsynth cart idea. Do
<br\>you mean connecting the modded mat to a synthcart? Or to LSDj? Or emulate
<br\>synthcart using a Gameboy? Well, as I said, a gameboy connection could be
<br\>possible, but I don't know about connecting it to an atari.
<br\>   Specify what you mean, it's an interesting idea!
<br\>
<br\>>ok so i have an idea, nintendo program that works like the atari
<br\>>synth cart. it might not be possible, i don't know though.
<br\>>ok so do you remember the old nintendo twister mats? i would write my
<br\>>own program that uses that as the controller, you would probably have
<br\>>to plug in a normal controller too, but anyways so i would set up the
<br\>>program so that when ever you hit the top left pad on the mat the
<br\>>nintendo would play a C and then if you move over on the mat and the
<br\>>scale would go down by black and whites like a normal piano. then i
<br\>>would take the twister mat and cut all the vinyl off because all i
<br\>>really need are the triggers, i could then make my own mat with the
<br\>>notes in the right order and have it be like the big floor piano in
<br\>>big. or i could take the triggers and put them into a small box or
<br\>>something the size of a casio. i would have to put the program on a
<br\>>cartridge and on the cart you would see like a menu and it would tell
<br\>>you what the synth is set at and you could change things with the
<br\>>controller and play the notes with your feet, would this work at all?
<br\>>can anyone help me out? am i going crazy? thanks
<br\>>-eddie
<br\>>
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ok the basic idea is that i guess i could do it for either gameboy or
<br\>nintendo, nintendo would be best because no one has really made a
<br\>good synth program for it but gameboy would be awesome. the synth
<br\>cart is this program for atari that is awesome and basicly you press
<br\>these little buttons on controllers and each one plays a note, i want
<br\>to do that for nes (or gameboy)so that when you hit the trigger on
<br\>the mat it would play the highest note of like a two and 1/2 octave
<br\>keyboard and as you moved over on the mat the sound would go down
<br\>like the keys of a piano. so i would have to write a progam for nes
<br\>(or gameboy if that's easier) that when ever i hit the highest key on
<br\>the mat it would make the sound of the highest note of a two octave
<br\>keyboard. and if it's possible i would set up a menu on the screen so
<br\>that you could change the sound like you have it on noise and change
<br\>the envelope and stuff and what kind of wave it is. does that help?
<br\>


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Re: [LSDj!] Bugs and suggestions in/for new interface

Message:
<br\>
> I tried out the new version, and I tell you, I like it! But here's a bug
<br\>> report and a few suggestions.
<br\>>
<br\>> * In keyb sync mode, the instrument number is overlapping the screenmap.
<br\>
<br\>Aww, I forgot about this one totally... Too bad I have my keyboard at my parents
<br\>on Öland so I can't try it out.
<br\>
<br\>> * The sync mode remains in battery RAM. I noticed this some time ago. I dont
<br\>> know if this a bug or a feature...
<br\>
<br\>This is a feature, I think, because I doubt that people care about switching
<br\>back modes anyway before switching off the Gameboy...
<br\>
<br\>> * The deafult palette is still AMI, not CUTE.
<br\>
<br\>Hmm, I get CUTE after a memory reset :)
<br\>
<br\>> * When you have stayed in project screen for 1 minute, the time used and
<br\>> total are updated. However they are drawn one row too low (in other words
<br\>
<br\>Confirmed...
<br\>
<br\>> Here are my suggestions:
<br\>> * Bring back the coloring the BPM and note data. it makes the screen more
<br\>> organized.(It seems to be missing or poor in some color schemes)
<br\>
<br\>The color schemes should definitely be updated...
<br\>
<br\>>   * Use select as a hold key for help messages.
<br\>
<br\>Cool idea!
<br\>
<br\>Johan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>ok the basic idea is that i guess i could do it for either gameboy or
<br\>>nintendo, nintendo would be best because no one has really made a
<br\>>good synth program for it but gameboy would be awesome. the synth
<br\>>cart is this program for atari that is awesome and basicly you press
<br\>>these little buttons on controllers and each one plays a note, i want
<br\>>to do that for nes (or gameboy)so that when you hit the trigger on
<br\>>the mat it would play the highest note of like a two and 1/2 octave
<br\>>keyboard and as you moved over on the mat the sound would go down
<br\>>like the keys of a piano. so i would have to write a progam for nes
<br\>>(or gameboy if that's easier) that when ever i hit the highest key on
<br\>>the mat it would make the sound of the highest note of a two octave
<br\>>keyboard. and if it's possible i would set up a menu on the screen so
<br\>>that you could change the sound like you have it on noise and change
<br\>>the envelope and stuff and what kind of wave it is. does that help?
<br\>
<br\>Yes it does.
<br\>I know what synthcart is, I just wasn't sure where you wanted to connect the
<br\>mat.
<br\>I knew about SNES mats, but if they existed for NES, it'd be easier to write
<br\>the program for NES. But those mats dont cover even a full octave do they?
<br\>Btw it'd probably be easy to build a NES to SNES pad adapter, so that you
<br\>could use a SNES mat on NES. That's just a theory though... I don't know if
<br\>it'd actually work.
<br\>This is exciting. When I come home I'm probably going to build an adapter
<br\>(kind of, rather a pile of cables :9 ) for connecting a SNES pad to the link
<br\>port. Since I dont have burner, I'll have to test it using GBA multiboot,
<br\>but in a few days I can give you an indication whether this is possible or
<br\>not!
<br\>BTW, could you do me a favour and make a map of which directions on the mat
<br\>goes to which pad button? (Eg, "Left on the mat goes to start, Right on the
<br\>map...")
<br\>
<br\>                                                                  /nitro2k01
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<br\>
i can't make a map of that right now because at the moment i don't
<br\>have a pad but i will try to get one as soon as possible because if
<br\>this works it is going to be awesome. you think it would be better to
<br\>get a snes pad rather than a nes? i can get either one and i'll find
<br\>a nes cart burner too. if this works i am going to be so happy.
<br\>thanks for all of your help, if you use aim im me sometime so we can
<br\>talk about this is real time, my screen name is kreb full o nuts.
<br\>thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> > * The deafult palette is still AMI, not CUTE.
<br\>>
<br\>>Hmm, I get CUTE after a memory reset :)
<br\>
<br\>This is what happens to me: When I start the program without a savefile in
<br\>no$gmb, it starts with with AMI. If i reset(CPU reset) it without touching
<br\>palette setting, it loads CUTE. On a reset(inside LSDj) it loads CUTE as
<br\>it's supposed to.
<br\>Appearantly the routine started when an empty RAM is detected loads AMI, but
<br\>writes CUTE to RAM.
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>
Was there a special SNES pad?  I've only ever seen the NES pad that you
<br\>use for the Track & Field and the Aerobics Game (!).  I'm looking at the pad
<br\>right now.  The pad has 12 positions - 4 across and three down.  It has
<br\>different printing on each side, but there are a dozen places to put your
<br\>feet.  The select and reset buttons are not included on the pad itself -
<br\>just the 12 spots.
<br\>
<br\>     There is some talk BTW of interfacing the NES mat to the 2600 for a
<br\>Dance Dance Revolution type game.  Those homebrew guy shave done some
<br\>amazing stuff with the old Atari...
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: "likeallthelights" <iloverorygilmore@...>
<br\>To: <lsdj@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:54 AM
<br\>Subject: Re: [LSDj!] crazy idea
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> i can't make a map of that right now because at the moment i don't
<br\>> have a pad but i will try to get one as soon as possible because if
<br\>> this works it is going to be awesome. you think it would be better to
<br\>> get a snes pad rather than a nes? i can get either one and i'll find
<br\>> a nes cart burner too. if this works i am going to be so happy.
<br\>> thanks for all of your help, if you use aim im me sometime so we can
<br\>> talk about this is real time, my screen name is kreb full o nuts.
<br\>> thanks
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>
sorry this is off topic but does anyone know where i can get an NES
<br\>cart burner???
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yeah, this has rekindled my curiosity in Pushpin, knowing now that it does
<br\>physically exist somewhere.  William, what's the VST you're referring to
<br\>that you built?
<br\>
<br\>Game Time Nation show was a really fun show to play, it was a great event.
<br\>Thanks for asking.  Tons of people, lots of cool stuff.  Among other things,
<br\>they had a big long table with just about every video game console you can
<br\>imagine represented, most of them playable via a bunch of flat-screen
<br\>displays hooked to switchboxes.  Saw a bunch of weird old ones I had never
<br\>seen before.  It was really fun.
<br\>
<br\>- Josh
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> -----Original Message-----
<br\>> From: Wm Lindsay [mailto:rabb_5m@...]
<br\>>
<br\>> I looked down this road before, I think they made a few units, quite
<br\>> some time ago. Not vapour-ware; but not around. Brian Whitman (now at
<br\>> MIT?) was the programmer. I suspect he'd be a good soource for info,
<br\>> if anyone knows him.
<br\>>
<br\>> I played with this idea when I built my little VST, and it looks like
<br\>> they addressed the port speed problem, however; the samples they have
<br\>> on line implied a stripping of the midi signal either pre-serial or
<br\>> during bit-read timing off of the link port. Not the worst idea!
<br\>>
<br\>> This makes me want to look back at that again.
<br\>> Thanks for the link Josh.
<br\>>
<br\>> How did your show at Game Time Nation go? I'm sorry I'm not in the
<br\>> city.
<br\>>
<br\>> -William
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>
2003-11-26: v2.4.1
<br\>
<br\>  * holding SELECT now pauses scrolling help text (thx to nitro2k01!)
<br\>  * bugfix: clock time in project screen was printed on wrong place (thx to
<br\>nitro2k01!)
<br\>  * bugfix: keyboard information was printed on wrong place (thx to nitro2k01!)
<br\>
<br\>http://www.littlesounddj.com/latest/full_version/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Undisclosed / Jermy Johnson" <Robo_velvet@h...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> - no emulators? wtf? how would those yuppies know if its an emu or
<br\>> not ... maybe the "creative use of effects" (that are allowed) could
<br\>> help cover it up.
<br\>> or perhaps the vocals (also allowed) would drown it out. does that
<br\>> sound crusty to anyone else?
<br\>
<br\>Hello Jermy. I helped decide on the rules for the contest. I don't know if I am
<br\>a yuppie
<br\>but I am a long time gameboy artist. I had to draw lines somewhere or else it
<br\>wouldn't
<br\>be a gamboy music contest at all. I didn't think the rules would make everyone
<br\>happy,
<br\>but I think they are as fair as one could make them. I think that writing in an
<br\>emulator
<br\>gives the composer somewhat of an advantage over composing on a gameboy. I
<br\>wanted to maintain as level a playing field as possible.
<br\>
<br\>> - hmmmm $500 .... that sounds like a fine price to pay for an upstart
<br\>> network to jump on the bandwagon of the "new underground" and make
<br\>> efforts to use, dare i say exploit, this material to hopefully
<br\>> attract some of the money that might better be placed in the pockets
<br\>> of the creators of such material .... just a thought.
<br\>
<br\>I know that producer of the site that got the idea very well. She is genuinely
<br\>enthusiastic about gameboy music (and Machinima) and pushed hard with the
<br\>network to get this (wonderful) oddball fringe scene some attention. If that
<br\>makes
<br\>you angry, you don't need to take part.
<br\>
<br\>the
<br\>> term "Biters" comes to mind. It's a long shot.... but does anyone
<br\>> remember 'grunge' in advertising?
<br\>
<br\>No correlation whatsoever.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> how many have made entries? ... who?
<br\>> do you think its responsible?
<br\>
<br\>I agree that the entrants should be listed on the site. That was my
<br\>understanding and
<br\>I think it makes it less interesting without a list and links for the public to
<br\>see. There
<br\>is a good chance that at the end of the contest they will list everyone. I am
<br\>certainly
<br\>pushing for it. I am personally checking the names and links before it gets
<br\>judged to
<br\>make sure eveyone who wants to be part of it is in there. That's why I asked
<br\>people to
<br\>also send  me their links just in case.
<br\>
<br\>> and wow... they might actually use it on the TV! ... you could be
<br\>> famous!.... and it would have normally cost spike much more...
<br\>
<br\>I agree they should pay more. The contest almost didn't happen, as I said the
<br\>producer had to push hard to get the network interested at all. Hence they were
<br\>not
<br\>particularly forthcoming with the budget. I wish it was more but it's what they
<br\>offered.
<br\>Using your music on TV is a value to them for sure (because there's some great
<br\>tracks
<br\>coming form this community) but it is also a value to the artist if the artist
<br\>cares
<br\>about getting known outside our small community. It's up to each individual to
<br\>decide
<br\>if it's worth it.
<br\>
<br\>/chris
<br\>


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<br\>
I'm free!  I think there was some residual SAV weirdness or
<br\>something and subsongs wouldn't let me get past first row.  Thanks
<br\>for the advice, everyone.
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "starpawz612" <starpawz612@y...> wrote:
<br\>> bud, if you're not talking about the new scrolling feature and by
<br\>> first row you mean the top row in the song screen (durr), you may
<br\>> have a problem i've experienced ...
<br\>>
<br\>> just check and make sure the SUBSONG number is set correctly, i've
<br\>> had 0 or other strange values in there that had me stuck in the
<br\>1st
<br\>> row ...
<br\>>
<br\>> hope you're free again soon ;D
<br\>>
<br\>> j.ordan
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "nitro2k01 formerly known as Lennart
<br\>Ek"
<br\>> <lennartek@h...> wrote:
<br\>> > >Did something change that I don't realize?
<br\>> > >I d/l version 2.3.3 last night and I'm unable to move the cursor
<br\>> > >below the first row with the down arrow anymore.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Actually not! Scrolling in song screen is now "line by line"
<br\>> instead of
<br\>> > "screen by screen". When you move beyond 0F, the screen will
<br\>scroll
<br\>> only one
<br\>> > row. If you place a chain anywhere it will become very obvious.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >                                                     /nitro2k01
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<br\>
Of course, that was about 1 million versions ago... ;)
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "budmelvin" <budmelvin@h...> wrote:
<br\>> I'm free!  I think there was some residual SAV weirdness or
<br\>> something and subsongs wouldn't let me get past first row.  Thanks
<br\>> for the advice, everyone.
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "starpawz612" <starpawz612@y...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> > bud, if you're not talking about the new scrolling feature and
<br\>by
<br\>> > first row you mean the top row in the song screen (durr), you
<br\>may
<br\>> > have a problem i've experienced ...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > just check and make sure the SUBSONG number is set correctly,
<br\>i've
<br\>> > had 0 or other strange values in there that had me stuck in the
<br\>> 1st
<br\>> > row ...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > hope you're free again soon ;D
<br\>> >
<br\>> > j.ordan
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "nitro2k01 formerly known as
<br\>Lennart
<br\>> Ek"
<br\>> > <lennartek@h...> wrote:
<br\>> > > >Did something change that I don't realize?
<br\>> > > >I d/l version 2.3.3 last night and I'm unable to move the
<br\>cursor
<br\>> > > >below the first row with the down arrow anymore.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Actually not! Scrolling in song screen is now "line by line"
<br\>> > instead of
<br\>> > > "screen by screen". When you move beyond 0F, the screen will
<br\>> scroll
<br\>> > only one
<br\>> > > row. If you place a chain anywhere it will become very obvious.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >                                                     /nitro2k01
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<br\>
Hi. My site was down yesterday and it bounced all my email. Sorry. Please send
<br\>it
<br\>again when you can. They extended the deadline anyway but I will make sure you
<br\>get
<br\>in. Thanks for taking part.
<br\>
<br\>The email is info@...
<br\>(my company)
<br\>
<br\>For the record, I am an individual gameboy artist who was asked by a friend at
<br\>SpikeTV.com to help with the contest. I don't work for SpikeTV.
<br\>/chris
<br\>(glomag)
<br\>
<br\>  Hi!
<br\>
<br\>  I sent an email to info@b... and cburke@b... and they
<br\>  bounced :-(
<br\>
<br\>  I did my application on the site but I am not sure if it went through
<br\>  OK... oh well, twiddle twid
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>sorry this is off topic but does anyone know where i can get an NES
<br\>>cart burner???
<br\>
<br\>I don't want to sound like a jurk, but this infromation could easly be found
<br\>doing a google search, that's how I got all my infromation, "NES dev" turns
<br\>up a lot of hits. The home page of chris covell describes how to make a
<br\>"mapper 3" type game/cart, actually his game: Solar Wars. Which isn't that
<br\>bad of a game if you ask me. Anywho, if you can do this type of operation on
<br\>a NES cart then you should be able to burn a copy of your own project when
<br\>the time comes. I say "when the time comes" because you sould be testing
<br\>your progress on the project with a emulator, unless you want to be
<br\>constandly burning then UV-eracing your EEproms, an emulator cuts down on
<br\>the trun-around time... this is what chris has to say: "Unfortunately, this
<br\>takes a bit of soldering skill and patience, so not everybody will be able
<br\>to do it. This procedure could also involve a large amount of stabbing,
<br\>sawing, gouging, and burning, so you do all this at your own risk and
<br\>responsibility. Anyway, for those that are technically inclined, read on..."
<br\>Also before you start on your programming adventure you might want to learn
<br\>6502 assembly. That is the language that the NES CPU understands. C and
<br\>basic need interpreters, and are too slow to run on the NES.
<br\>
<br\>hope that helped
<br\>
<br\>-Neil
<br\>
<br\>links:
<br\>Chris' home page:
<br\>http://www.zyx.com/chrisc/main.html
<br\>
<br\>Shortcut to make your own programable cart:
<br\>http://www.zyx.com/chrisc/solarwarscart.html
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Message:
<br\>
I know its a stupid question but do you  where can I get a lsdj chip for a
<br\>decent price?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks so much,
<br\>JR
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: neil Larion
<br\>   To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:37 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [LSDj!] OT: burner?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   >sorry this is off topic but does anyone know where i can get an NES
<br\>   >cart burner???
<br\>
<br\>   I don't want to sound like a jurk, but this infromation could easly be found
<br\>   doing a google search, that's how I got all my infromation, "NES dev" turns
<br\>   up a lot of hits. The home page of chris covell describes how to make a
<br\>   "mapper 3" type game/cart, actually his game: Solar Wars. Which isn't that
<br\>   bad of a game if you ask me. Anywho, if you can do this type of operation on
<br\>   a NES cart then you should be able to burn a copy of your own project when
<br\>   the time comes. I say "when the time comes" because you sould be testing
<br\>   your progress on the project with a emulator, unless you want to be
<br\>   constandly burning then UV-eracing your EEproms, an emulator cuts down on
<br\>   the trun-around time... this is what chris has to say: "Unfortunately, this
<br\>   takes a bit of soldering skill and patience, so not everybody will be able
<br\>   to do it. This procedure could also involve a large amount of stabbing,
<br\>   sawing, gouging, and burning, so you do all this at your own risk and
<br\>   responsibility. Anyway, for those that are technically inclined, read on..."
<br\>   Also before you start on your programming adventure you might want to learn
<br\>   6502 assembly. That is the language that the NES CPU understands. C and
<br\>   basic need interpreters, and are too slow to run on the NES.
<br\>
<br\>   hope that helped
<br\>
<br\>   -Neil
<br\>
<br\>   links:
<br\>   Chris' home page:
<br\>   http://www.zyx.com/chrisc/main.html
<br\>
<br\>   Shortcut to make your own programable cart:
<br\>   http://www.zyx.com/chrisc/solarwarscart.html
<br\>
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Message:
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> /chris
<br\>
<br\>thanks alot chris for your insight.
<br\>i guess with all the noise this stuff is making lately ... i cant
<br\>help but feel a little protective.
<br\>  ...if you can tell me that you could confidently tell if an entry
<br\>was written on an emulator or not, then i will believe you.
<br\>though i've been using this thing for some time as well ... and i see
<br\>no benefit from using an emulator as opposed to a real gameboy. i
<br\>mean, would 'gameboy player' count as an emulator?
<br\>
<br\>and hey ... just offering a challenge... i'm not angry ... in fact i
<br\>was thinking about entering...  but then i counted the number of
<br\>times spike plays 'blind date' in one day. if you could get them to
<br\>rerun 'ren & stimpy adult party cartoon' i would appreciate it.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey johan?
<br\>do you have records of how many carts sold, to who and where?
<br\>i'd be real curious to know if there are any other peeps in my
<br\>area ... or even my state! that use it... i dont think i've ever met
<br\>anyone else around that does?
<br\>lsdj in texas?
<br\>LOVE,JERMY
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Message:
<br\>
1st off .. i'm all for ditching the underground label. i don't understand
<br\>reveling in
<br\>obscurity. it would be rad if the idea of a tracker became so mainstream that
<br\>one
<br\>could get licensed and mass produced so i could more easily start a gameboy/bmx
<br\>gang of kids 13 and younger.
<br\>
<br\>also, LSDj has been fun to me for two years and i'm sure i'll still be having
<br\>fun with it
<br\>ten years from now (whether or nto the rest of  the world covets a cartridge
<br\>copy of
<br\>LSDj like teh roland gear is ccoveted today, or not)
<br\>
<br\>2nd off ... no emu is a stupid rule, but it's just a corporate contest. if you
<br\>can make
<br\>the dopest track on an emulator, please do, and post it here. i love hearing
<br\>what
<br\>people are doing with LSDj, and not enough people are sharing and critiquing! ok
<br\>i
<br\>admit i've got cds from 8cyclinder but melvin and n9tr0-2k that i havn't
<br\>reviewed.
<br\>
<br\>but also there is no advantage to useing lsdj in an emulator, at all. perhaps a
<br\>more
<br\>interesting rule to show LSDj off would have been CHIP ONLY TUNEZ hehe ;D
<br\>
<br\>3rd off, go chris, get that list of artists who submited up! it's such a simple
<br\>thing and
<br\>supportive of the community as a whole. in any media there's no sense in selling
<br\>your
<br\>audience short on information, especially on the web where it's so easy to
<br\>include
<br\>suplementary material to the side!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "chris burke" <cburke@b...> wrote:
<br\>> --- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "Undisclosed / Jermy Johnson" <Robo_velvet@h...>
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > - no emulators? wtf? how would those yuppies know if its an emu or
<br\>> > not ... maybe the "creative use of effects" (that are allowed) could
<br\>> > help cover it up.
<br\>> > or perhaps the vocals (also allowed) would drown it out. does that
<br\>> > sound crusty to anyone else?
<br\>>
<br\>> Hello Jermy. I helped decide on the rules for the contest. I don't know if I
<br\>am a
<br\>yuppie
<br\>> but I am a long time gameboy artist. I had to draw lines somewhere or else it
<br\>wouldn't
<br\>> be a gamboy music contest at all. I didn't think the rules would make everyone
<br\>happy,
<br\>> but I think they are as fair as one could make them. I think that writing in
<br\>an
<br\>emulator
<br\>> gives the composer somewhat of an advantage over composing on a gameboy. I
<br\>> wanted to maintain as level a playing field as possible.
<br\>>
<br\>> > - hmmmm $500 .... that sounds like a fine price to pay for an upstart
<br\>> > network to jump on the bandwagon of the "new underground" and make
<br\>> > efforts to use, dare i say exploit, this material to hopefully
<br\>> > attract some of the money that might better be placed in the pockets
<br\>> > of the creators of such material .... just a thought.
<br\>>
<br\>> I know that producer of the site that got the idea very well. She is genuinely
<br\>> enthusiastic about gameboy music (and Machinima) and pushed hard with the
<br\>> network to get this (wonderful) oddball fringe scene some attention. If that
<br\>makes
<br\>> you angry, you don't need to take part.
<br\>>
<br\>> the
<br\>> > term "Biters" comes to mind. It's a long shot.... but does anyone
<br\>> > remember 'grunge' in advertising?
<br\>>
<br\>> No correlation whatsoever.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > how many have made entries? ... who?
<br\>> > do you think its responsible?
<br\>>
<br\>> I agree that the entrants should be listed on the site. That was my
<br\>understanding
<br\>and
<br\>> I think it makes it less interesting without a list and links for the public
<br\>to see.
<br\>There
<br\>> is a good chance that at the end of the contest they will list everyone. I am
<br\>certainly
<br\>> pushing for it. I am personally checking the names and links before it gets
<br\>judged
<br\>to
<br\>> make sure eveyone who wants to be part of it is in there. That's why I asked
<br\>people
<br\>to
<br\>> also send  me their links just in case.
<br\>>
<br\>> > and wow... they might actually use it on the TV! ... you could be
<br\>> > famous!.... and it would have normally cost spike much more...
<br\>>
<br\>> I agree they should pay more. The contest almost didn't happen, as I said the
<br\>> producer had to push hard to get the network interested at all. Hence they
<br\>were not
<br\>> particularly forthcoming with the budget. I wish it was more but it's what
<br\>they
<br\>offered.
<br\>> Using your music on TV is a value to them for sure (because there's some great
<br\>tracks
<br\>> coming form this community) but it is also a value to the artist if the artist
<br\>cares
<br\>> about getting known outside our small community. It's up to each individual to
<br\>decide
<br\>> if it's worth it.
<br\>>
<br\>> /chris
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