# tblYgr_synthcart

Message:
<br\>
Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but is there any news when the
<br\>Loopcart is coming out for the 2600? The last I saw was a release date
<br\>for January, but haven't heard anything since.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Bryan wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but is there any news when the
<br\>>Loopcart is coming out for the 2600? The last I saw was a release date
<br\>>for January, but haven't heard anything since.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     Don't know if you check out the website for Paul's band where he
<br\>uses all this gear that he's developed - it's at www.treewave.com.  If
<br\>you look, you'll see that they've had a really full schedule of shows,
<br\>an art exhibition, and a significant move of Slocum World Domination
<br\>Headquarters to another part of Dallas.  SO he's been a busy boy these
<br\>days...  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but is there any news when the
<br\>>Loopcart is coming out for the 2600? The last I saw was a release date
<br\>>for January, but haven't heard anything since.
<br\>
<br\>I ended up moving in January, which has taken a lot of time.  I'm about to
<br\>start working on it again.  Should be done in May.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I just got a commodore 64 and was very excited to load Paul's cynthcart onto
<br\>it but have had some trouble getting it to load.  I dubbed the tape from
<br\>treewave's cd and popped it into the datasette.  Sometimes it doesn't
<br\>recognize the tape.  Other times is actually says "found" but it's normally
<br\>followed by strange symbols.  Then after the "found" screen it says either
<br\>"out of memory error" or "load error" or it just stops responding.  I have
<br\>the original "music maker" program for c-64 and that loads fine so I don't
<br\>think it's a hardware problem, though I'm don't really know.  I got a new
<br\>tape and I think it's dubbing fine.  Has anybody run across a problem like
<br\>this?  Is there another way to load the program other than cassette?  I"m
<br\>not much for soldering, however, and would be afraid to screw up the
<br\>computer.  By the way, does anybody out there wth some knowledge on this
<br\>stuff live in NY?  Thanks!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Steve Gridley
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but is there any news when the
<br\>> >Loopcart is coming out for the 2600? The last I saw was a release date
<br\>> >for January, but haven't heard anything since.
<br\>>
<br\>> I ended up moving in January, which has taken a lot of time.  I'm
<br\>about to
<br\>> start working on it again.  Should be done in May.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>Cool, thanks for the update!
<br\>


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<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>> Jeremy wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >I have an Intellivision and the voice module for it. It seems like there are
<br\>a lot of
<br\>ooptions for the
<br\>> >2600 and the coleco musically. What's out there for Intellivision? Am I
<br\>missing
<br\>something?
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>     Intellivision did actually make a full-sized keyboard add-on for
<br\>> Intellivision.  It was intended to round out the Intellivision II
<br\>> line-up.  Once you put on the computer module, you can add this full
<br\>> sized keyboard and use carts specially made for it.
<br\>>
<br\>>     If I remember my Intellivision history correctly, Mattel only
<br\>> grudgingly came out with the computer as they'd advertised INTV as more
<br\>> than just a game system, promising computer expansion.  When it came
<br\>> time to actually design the computer module, they couldn't figure out a
<br\>> way to do it inexpensively, and only a government edict finally forced
<br\>> them to actually come out with it.  As a result it's not well supported,
<br\>> there are only a handful of carts for it.
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/hardware/ecs_tech.html
<br\>>
<br\>>     I have one of these setups, and the single cart that came out for
<br\>> the music keyboard.  The keyboard is pretty nice, and I must admit I
<br\>> really like how all the cases match to look all "slick".  You can play
<br\>> the keyboard and it will display what notes you are playing on a regular
<br\>> musical staff on the TV, though you can change the "instrument" - it's
<br\>> just a simple square wave (though I imagine that you could change the
<br\>> nature of the sound by programming something on the computer
<br\>> component).  There's also the Melody Blaster game which lets you pick
<br\>> from a number of songs and using the keyboard shoot the notes out of the
<br\>> sky.  Cute.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/games/credits/ecs.shtml#Anchor-Melody-\
<br\>49101
<br\>>
<br\>>     Musically it sounds as if the Intellivision has some of the same
<br\>> tonal qualities as the Atari.  An important difference is that a default
<br\>> Intellivision has three voices, and once adding the computer module you
<br\>> get an astonishing SIX!  It would be wickedly cool if someone homebrewed
<br\>> something for this arrangement, but so few people have it that I don't
<br\>> know if it would be worth a developer's time.  Intellivision is also
<br\>> somewhat harder to mod for video and audio outputs.
<br\>>
<br\>>     The only other thing I can think of is to get an Intellicart (same
<br\>> as a Cuttlecart, but for INTV), and learn how to program all your stuff
<br\>> - the hard way!  That crazy INTV disc controller would seem to be a nice
<br\>> way to control pitch bend or glide.  :)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --
<br\>>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>    modern filmmaker
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Wow! Thanks for all that!!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
would anyone be interested in making me copies of these programs on 5
<br\>1/4" disks? name a price and e-mail me if you are! thanks.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I made the Cart myself I used a 27256 eprom with the
<br\>>highest 3 address pins pulled to ground. I have done
<br\>>this with other Carts and have had success with the
<br\>>proper operation of the Cart. Is it possible that this
<br\>>is causeing the problem?
<br\>
<br\>It should work, but it sure sounds like there's something wrong with yr cart.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
burnkit 2600 has been in need of cynthcart on a 5 1/4 for a while now...
<br\>cant hook the tape player up to our sx64!
<br\>been draggin my feet into getting an xe1541 cable . .
<br\>can any one hook us up with the diskette? please?
<br\>
<br\>definitely lookin forward to loopcarts completion as well! Paul!
<br\>btw - are you sending any pieces up to nyc for the bent fest? tank still got
<br\>your printer?
<br\>we enjoyed demo-ing your warez for some media out there last year.
<br\>
<br\>-thom
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--------------------------------------
<br\>
<br\>Message: 2
<br\>     Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:45:46 -0000
<br\>     From: "2wm" <killradio_13@yahoo.com>
<br\>Subject: cybertracker and cynth cart
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>would anyone be interested in making me copies of these programs on 5
<br\>1/4" disks? name a price and e-mail me if you are! thanks.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>burnkit 2600 has been in need of cynthcart on a 5 1/4 for a while now...
<br\>>cant hook the tape player up to our sx64!
<br\>>been draggin my feet into getting an xe1541 cable . .
<br\>>can any one hook us up with the diskette? please?
<br\>
<br\>Probably somebody on the lemon64 forums could hook you guys up.  But I am
<br\>working towards finally getting the Cynthcart into the Atariage store as we
<br\>speak.  Probably only a couple more weeks.
<br\>
<br\>>btw - are you sending any pieces up to nyc for the bent fest?
<br\>
<br\>Not sure, I emailed Mike the other day, but I haven't heard back from him
<br\>and it may be too late.  And the latest stuff I've finished barely fits
<br\>into "circuit bending", if at all.  But I'll definitely be showing some
<br\>stuff in NYC again before too long.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've got an X1541 cable and drive, just E-Mail me the files you want
<br\>on disk and I can do the transfer for you... will need to cover
<br\>postage though, are you guys on Paypal? (or maybe even let me know
<br\>if there's any gear / stuff you'd like to trade for the disk(s))
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "thom uliasz" <dsl_tru@h...> wrote:
<br\>> burnkit 2600 has been in need of cynthcart on a 5 1/4 for a while
<br\>now...
<br\>> cant hook the tape player up to our sx64!
<br\>> been draggin my feet into getting an xe1541 cable . .
<br\>> can any one hook us up with the diskette? please?
<br\>>
<br\>> definitely lookin forward to loopcarts completion as well! Paul!
<br\>> btw - are you sending any pieces up to nyc for the bent fest? tank
<br\>still got
<br\>> your printer?
<br\>> we enjoyed demo-ing your warez for some media out there last year.
<br\>>
<br\>> -thom
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --------------------------------------
<br\>>
<br\>> Message: 2
<br\>>     Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:45:46 -0000
<br\>>     From: "2wm" <killradio_13@y...>
<br\>> Subject: cybertracker and cynth cart
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> would anyone be interested in making me copies of these programs
<br\>on 5
<br\>> 1/4" disks? name a price and e-mail me if you are! thanks.
<br\>>
<br\>> --2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've just emailed dan o'shea about some disk transfers, so hopefully
<br\>that will work out. lemon64 looks like a great resource to get
<br\>involved with though.
<br\>Mike had said that they were broadening their focus this year to be
<br\>more inclusive to the chiptune set, im sure your work would be
<br\>welcome. we missed your show out here a few weeks ago as we found out
<br\>that day you were playing, give us some advance warning next time,
<br\>we'll defintely come visit!
<br\>-thom
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Not sure, I emailed Mike the other day, but I haven't heard back
<br\>from him
<br\>> and it may be too late.  And the latest stuff I've finished barely fits
<br\>> into "circuit bending", if at all.  But I'll definitely be showing some
<br\>> stuff in NYC again before too long.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
"Cynthcart into the Atariage store as we
<br\>speak. Probably only a couple more weeks."
<br\>
<br\>Wahoo!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello,
<br\>
<br\>If you have windows or *nix I have an extra xe1541 cable id be willing
<br\>to sell or trade for pretty cheap. Anyone interested should email me
<br\>off list.
<br\>
<br\>http://sta.c64.org/xe1541.html
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel O'Shea" <dan@o...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I've got an X1541 cable and drive, just E-Mail me the files you want
<br\>> on disk and I can do the transfer for you... will need to cover
<br\>> postage though, are you guys on Paypal? (or maybe even let me know
<br\>> if there's any gear / stuff you'd like to trade for the disk(s))
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "thom uliasz" <dsl_tru@h...> wrote:
<br\>> > burnkit 2600 has been in need of cynthcart on a 5 1/4 for a while
<br\>> now...
<br\>> > cant hook the tape player up to our sx64!
<br\>> > been draggin my feet into getting an xe1541 cable . .
<br\>> > can any one hook us up with the diskette? please?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > definitely lookin forward to loopcarts completion as well! Paul!
<br\>> > btw - are you sending any pieces up to nyc for the bent fest? tank
<br\>> still got
<br\>> > your printer?
<br\>> > we enjoyed demo-ing your warez for some media out there last year.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -thom
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --------------------------------------
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Message: 2
<br\>> >     Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:45:46 -0000
<br\>> >     From: "2wm" <killradio_13@y...>
<br\>> > Subject: cybertracker and cynth cart
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > would anyone be interested in making me copies of these programs
<br\>> on 5
<br\>> > 1/4" disks? name a price and e-mail me if you are! thanks.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
What is the meaning of this? Who are you quoting? Is cynthcart really going to
<br\>be in the
<br\>AtariAge store in a couple weeks?
<br\>Answers man! I need answers!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chvad_sb" <chvad_sb@h...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> "Cynthcart into the Atariage store as we
<br\>> speak. Probably only a couple more weeks."
<br\>>
<br\>> Wahoo!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey, I hope you don't take it as some kind of spam:
<br\>Just wanted to invite you to download this protesting
<br\>virtual release. The best on wired micro punk :P
<br\>-Ignat
<br\>
<br\>http://northamericanhardcore.50megs.com
<br\>
<br\>25 artists
<br\>25 tracks
<br\>one shitty cover
<br\>
<br\>.zipped, about 20 megs
<br\>
<br\>direct dl link:
<br\>http://robot-dreams.com/nahc/NAHC050.zip
<br\>
<br\>thanks a SHITLOAD to all the poeple who contributed
<br\>tracks, and to the people who talked shit and got a
<br\>little passionate about whatever they are feeling on
<br\>the lj gameboy community
<br\>
<br\>anger and frustration is not nessessarily (speeled
<br\>rong) bad! we all should try to affect change in our
<br\>own way, and fight or at least talk about things we
<br\>care about
<br\>
<br\>and a big thanks to micromusic for giving my netlabel
<br\>more exposure ;D
<br\>
<br\>(Ignat repeating) -OVERTHRUSTER
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>__________________________________
<br\>Do you Yahoo!?
<br\>Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates.
<br\>http://personals.yahoo.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Mike had said that they were broadening their focus this year to be
<br\>>more inclusive to the chiptune set, im sure your work would be
<br\>>welcome.
<br\>
<br\>It's not actually chiptune related, but the stuff did get accepted (these
<br\>circuit boards works I made recently).  And I might come and do a lecture
<br\>about some new software I'm writing.
<br\>
<br\>>we missed your show out here a few weeks ago as we found out
<br\>>that day you were playing, give us some advance warning next time,
<br\>>we'll defintely come visit!
<br\>
<br\>Sorry, I intended to post to this group, but totally forgot.  I definitely
<br\>will next time.
<br\>
<br\>btw: we're playing houston tomorrow and france next week for anyone there
<br\>that might be interested.  ;o)  more info on http://treewave.com
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi all-
<br\>Sorry to reiterate. But we have a date now.........
<br\>
<br\>Burnkit2600 will be playing at the 2005 bent fest on saturday, april 30th.
<br\>http://www.thetanknyc.org/bent2005/
<br\>This year we're focusing more on chiptunes- we'll have an atari with paul's
<br\>synthcart, an NES with wayfar's MIDINES, and possibly a C64 with paul's
<br\>cynthcart, as well as a few bent toys, plus my newly MIDIfied moog.
<br\>
<br\>There are a lot of other great artists playing that week. It should be a blast
<br\>(again).
<br\>Who's going to check it out?
<br\>I'll try to check out friday and saturday at least.....
<br\>
<br\>paul- your circuitboards look neat. That would be great for making touch-sensors
<br\>for bent toys. Wish treewave was playing (pick me up on your way to france, k?)
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>
<br\>= www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>= www.litmusound.com =
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hello !
<br\>
<br\>does anyone have commodore 'synthesound 64' by thomas daschel/hesware
<br\>in any format (audio data, floppy, etc)?
<br\>
<br\>my original disk was somehow formatted during transit and 'the file
<br\>cannot be found'.
<br\>
<br\>i am very interested in having this again, as it is an extremely
<br\>flexible synthesizer software cartridge and i've enjoyed immensely.
<br\>
<br\>there'll probably be a slight financial reward, for anyone who can send
<br\>me a copy.
<br\>thank you!
<br\>
<br\>-r andrew
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yes, I have it - "SYNTHESOUND 64" by HUMAN ENGINEERED SOFTWARE
<br\>
<br\>E-Mail me off-list if you're still looking for it...
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "quiet_channel"
<br\><DivineMasquerade@a...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>  hello !
<br\>>
<br\>> does anyone have commodore 'synthesound 64' by thomas
<br\>daschel/hesware
<br\>> in any format (audio data, floppy, etc)?
<br\>>
<br\>> my original disk was somehow formatted during transit and 'the
<br\>file
<br\>> cannot be found'.
<br\>>
<br\>> i am very interested in having this again, as it is an extremely
<br\>> flexible synthesizer software cartridge and i've enjoyed immensely.
<br\>>
<br\>> there'll probably be a slight financial reward, for anyone who can
<br\>send
<br\>> me a copy.
<br\>> thank you!
<br\>>
<br\>> -r andrew
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
finally got in touch with Albert about getting the Cynthcart in the
<br\>store.  The ball's rolling.
<br\>
<br\>The plan is to make it available as a bare board (no cartidge case) with a
<br\>socketed EPROM so it can be easily upgraded later when I add more
<br\>features.  To update it you can just mail your EPROM to Albert and he'll
<br\>reprogram it for a small fee and return shipping.  Or you can just buy a
<br\>new EPROM from him with the new program (which will be easier and probably
<br\>cost about the same).  There will be no charge for updates except for
<br\>whatever Albert charges for EPROM burning.
<br\>
<br\>Sound good?  Is there anybody that really is wanting a cartridge
<br\>case?  Problem is that a socketed EPROM will not fit in a cartridge
<br\>case.  You'll either have a to cut a hole in the case, or just have the
<br\>EPROM soldered to the board with no socket, which means you have to
<br\>desolder it if you want an update.
<br\>
<br\>I use bare Cynthcart boards when we perform.  I just remove them before I
<br\>pack them for air travel so they don't get damaged.  They're a little more
<br\>fragile without a cartridge case, but I've never had a problem.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey,
<br\>
<br\>Socketed will be fine, cause you can just remove them after booting,
<br\>right? Or you can just cut a hotrodded supercharged engine type hole
<br\>in the top of it... I assume you do this so it can readily
<br\>updatable... what kind of features do you have planned for the future?
<br\>
<br\>What is the anticipated cost?
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> finally got in touch with Albert about getting the Cynthcart in the
<br\>> store.  The ball's rolling.
<br\>>
<br\>> The plan is to make it available as a bare board (no cartidge case)
<br\>with a
<br\>> socketed EPROM so it can be easily upgraded later when I add more
<br\>> features.  To update it you can just mail your EPROM to Albert and
<br\>he'll
<br\>> reprogram it for a small fee and return shipping.  Or you can just
<br\>buy a
<br\>> new EPROM from him with the new program (which will be easier and
<br\>probably
<br\>> cost about the same).  There will be no charge for updates except
<br\>for
<br\>> whatever Albert charges for EPROM burning.
<br\>>
<br\>> Sound good?  Is there anybody that really is wanting a cartridge
<br\>> case?  Problem is that a socketed EPROM will not fit in a cartridge
<br\>> case.  You'll either have a to cut a hole in the case, or just have
<br\>the
<br\>> EPROM soldered to the board with no socket, which means you have to
<br\>> desolder it if you want an update.
<br\>>
<br\>> I use bare Cynthcart boards when we perform.  I just remove them
<br\>before I
<br\>> pack them for air travel so they don't get damaged.  They're a
<br\>little more
<br\>> fragile without a cartridge case, but I've never had a problem.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Socketed will be fine, cause you can just remove them after booting,
<br\>>right?
<br\>
<br\>yeah, although I leave it in during performances in case there's a power
<br\>glitch.  But yeah, you can remove the cart after it starts and it'll
<br\>continue to run.  It copies itself to RAM.  This reduces the chance that
<br\>it'll crash if you bump the cartridge or something, and you can use a
<br\>single cart to load it on several C64s.
<br\>
<br\>>  Or you can just cut a hotrodded supercharged engine type hole
<br\>>in the top of it... I assume you do this so it can readily
<br\>>updatable... what kind of features do you have planned for the future?
<br\>
<br\>Probably the next things I'll add will be better portamento speed control,
<br\>pitch bend/tuning, and solo sounds that combine multiple voices.  Usually
<br\>the feature I add next will be the one I need the most, hehe.
<br\>
<br\>>What is the anticipated cost?
<br\>
<br\>I think it'll be $20-$25.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
A bare board is fine. I like the idea about easy upgrades! :) I look
<br\>forward to packing away my data cassette!
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Socketed will be fine, cause you can just remove them after
<br\>booting,
<br\>> >right?
<br\>>
<br\>> yeah, although I leave it in during performances in case there's a
<br\>power
<br\>> glitch.  But yeah, you can remove the cart after it starts and
<br\>it'll
<br\>> continue to run.  It copies itself to RAM.  This reduces the
<br\>chance that
<br\>> it'll crash if you bump the cartridge or something, and you can
<br\>use a
<br\>> single cart to load it on several C64s.
<br\>>
<br\>> >  Or you can just cut a hotrodded supercharged engine type hole
<br\>> >in the top of it... I assume you do this so it can readily
<br\>> >updatable... what kind of features do you have planned for the
<br\>future?
<br\>>
<br\>> Probably the next things I'll add will be better portamento speed
<br\>control,
<br\>> pitch bend/tuning, and solo sounds that combine multiple voices.
<br\>Usually
<br\>> the feature I add next will be the one I need the most, hehe.
<br\>>
<br\>> >What is the anticipated cost?
<br\>>
<br\>> I think it'll be $20-$25.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> >  Or you can just cut a hotrodded supercharged engine type hole
<br\>> >in the top of it... I assume you do this so it can readily
<br\>> >updatable... what kind of features do you have planned for the future?
<br\>>
<br\>> Probably the next things I'll add will be better portamento speed
<br\>control,
<br\>> pitch bend/tuning, and solo sounds that combine multiple voices.
<br\>Usually
<br\>> the feature I add next will be the one I need the most, hehe.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>The multiple voice feature sounds hod, as well as pitch bend. I really
<br\>like those options in retroskoi, but wish it had a mono mode as well
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >What is the anticipated cost?
<br\>>
<br\>> I think it'll be $20-$25.
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>You totally undersell yourself! Keep up the good work..
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I know that paul has said on this group that some computer soundcarts
<br\>invert the audio signal and you should just record the program from a
<br\>standalone cd player to tape.
<br\>   Not knowing that, i have gotten it to work from a computer but it
<br\>was hell and it still only loads like 1/20th of the times i try to
<br\>load it.  I haven't tried inverting the signal on my computer before
<br\>i record it.
<br\>
<br\>I am just waiting for the cart!!
<br\>
<br\>chuck
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Gridley" <sgridley@h...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> I just got a commodore 64 and was very excited to load Paul's
<br\>cynthcart onto
<br\>> it but have had some trouble getting it to load.  I dubbed the tape
<br\>from
<br\>> treewave's cd and popped it into the datasette.  Sometimes it
<br\>doesn't
<br\>> recognize the tape.  Other times is actually says "found" but it's
<br\>normally
<br\>> followed by strange symbols.  Then after the "found" screen it says
<br\>either
<br\>> "out of memory error" or "load error" or it just stops responding.
<br\>I have
<br\>> the original "music maker" program for c-64 and that loads fine so
<br\>I don't
<br\>> think it's a hardware problem, though I'm don't really know.  I got
<br\>a new
<br\>> tape and I think it's dubbing fine.  Has anybody run across a
<br\>problem like
<br\>> this?  Is there another way to load the program other than
<br\>cassette?  I"m
<br\>> not much for soldering, however, and would be afraid to screw up
<br\>the
<br\>> computer.  By the way, does anybody out there wth some knowledge on
<br\>this
<br\>> stuff live in NY?  Thanks!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Steve Gridley
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi guys,
<br\>   I hope you guys don't mind this message.
<br\>
<br\>I make 1" buttons and 1.25 buttons.  I am all about trading for
<br\>interesting stuff.  If anyone would like to trade for stuff for
<br\>100 custom buttons, let me know.
<br\>to give you an idea, i charge $25 for 100 1"buttons and $30 for 100
<br\>1.25"  so whatever you have of that value. or if you want to just buy
<br\>them.
<br\>
<br\>anyway, email me at  sales@largebuttons.com for more info and my
<br\>template for your button.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>here are buttons i sell on ebay to give you an idea of the quality.
<br\>http://www.largeprojections.com/button/list.php
<br\>
<br\>again, i am sorry for this message. i don't want it to seem like an
<br\>ad.
<br\>
<br\>thanks,
<br\>chuck
<br\>


Subject:
Re: want to trade stuff for custom buttons?

Message:
<br\>
well my email didn't come through but
<br\>sales  at   largebuttons dot com
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chucklarge2000"
<br\><chucklarge2000@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> hi guys,
<br\>>   I hope you guys don't mind this message.
<br\>>
<br\>> I make 1" buttons and 1.25 buttons.  I am all about trading for
<br\>> interesting stuff.  If anyone would like to trade for stuff for
<br\>> 100 custom buttons, let me know.
<br\>> to give you an idea, i charge $25 for 100 1"buttons and $30 for 100
<br\>> 1.25"  so whatever you have of that value. or if you want to just
<br\>buy
<br\>> them.
<br\>>
<br\>> anyway, email me at  sales@l... for more info and my
<br\>> template for your button.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> here are buttons i sell on ebay to give you an idea of the quality.
<br\>> http://www.largeprojections.com/button/list.php
<br\>>
<br\>> again, i am sorry for this message. i don't want it to seem like an
<br\>> ad.
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks,
<br\>> chuck
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
BANNED
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chucklarge2000"
<br\><chucklarge2000@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> well my email didn't come through but
<br\>> sales  at   largebuttons dot com
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chucklarge2000"
<br\>> <chucklarge2000@y...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > hi guys,
<br\>> >   I hope you guys don't mind this message.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I make 1" buttons and 1.25 buttons.  I am all about trading for
<br\>> > interesting stuff.  If anyone would like to trade for stuff for
<br\>> > 100 custom buttons, let me know.
<br\>> > to give you an idea, i charge $25 for 100 1"buttons and $30 for 100
<br\>> > 1.25"  so whatever you have of that value. or if you want to just
<br\>> buy
<br\>> > them.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > anyway, email me at  sales@l... for more info and my
<br\>> > template for your button.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > here are buttons i sell on ebay to give you an idea of the quality.
<br\>> > http://www.largeprojections.com/button/list.php
<br\>> >
<br\>> > again, i am sorry for this message. i don't want it to seem like an
<br\>> > ad.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > thanks,
<br\>> > chuck
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
aawww...seriously?
<br\>i think he makes like atari buttons & shit is what he meant...
<br\>plus he plays the synthcart or something no?
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> BANNED
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chucklarge2000"
<br\>> <chucklarge2000@y...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > well my email didn't come through but
<br\>> > sales  at   largebuttons dot com
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chucklarge2000"
<br\>> > <chucklarge2000@y...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > hi guys,
<br\>> > >   I hope you guys don't mind this message.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I make 1" buttons and 1.25 buttons.  I am all about trading for
<br\>> > > interesting stuff.  If anyone would like to trade for stuff for
<br\>> > > 100 custom buttons, let me know.
<br\>> > > to give you an idea, i charge $25 for 100 1"buttons and $30 for
<br\>100
<br\>> > > 1.25"  so whatever you have of that value. or if you want to
<br\>just
<br\>> > buy
<br\>> > > them.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > anyway, email me at  sales@l... for more info and my
<br\>> > > template for your button.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > here are buttons i sell on ebay to give you an idea of the
<br\>quality.
<br\>> > > http://www.largeprojections.com/button/list.php
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > again, i am sorry for this message. i don't want it to seem
<br\>like an
<br\>> > > ad.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > thanks,
<br\>> > > chuck
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "J Ksine" <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> aawww...seriously?
<br\>> i think he makes like atari buttons & shit is what he meant...
<br\>> plus he plays the synthcart or something no?
<br\>
<br\>...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> > > > again, i am sorry for this message. i don't want it to seem
<br\>> like an
<br\>> > > > ad.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > thanks,
<br\>> > > > chuck
<br\>
<br\>It seemed like an ad
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello,
<br\>
<br\>Ive had time to analyze this and he is now unbanned. Folks please
<br\>excercise caution in doing commcercial posts. It is a slippery slope
<br\>and I do not want to have to have to deal with a lot of internet fly
<br\>by night schemes getting in the way of blippage...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> > aawww...seriously?
<br\>> > i think he makes like atari buttons & shit is what he meant...
<br\>> > plus he plays the synthcart or something no?
<br\>>
<br\>> ...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > > > > again, i am sorry for this message. i don't want it to seem
<br\>> > like an
<br\>> > > > > ad.
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > thanks,
<br\>> > > > > chuck
<br\>>
<br\>> It seemed like an ad
<br\>>
<br\>> peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
you are a magnanimus leader..
<br\>actually i think i got some cool atari buttons from this fellow off
<br\>ebay once if i'm not mistaken...i recognize the chucklarge
<br\>name..they are cool buttons i've thrown some out to fans at shows ;)
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hello,
<br\>>
<br\>> Ive had time to analyze this and he is now unbanned. Folks please
<br\>> excercise caution in doing commcercial posts. It is a slippery
<br\>slope
<br\>> and I do not want to have to have to deal with a lot of internet
<br\>fly
<br\>> by night schemes getting in the way of blippage...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> peter
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > > aawww...seriously?
<br\>> > > i think he makes like atari buttons & shit is what he meant...
<br\>> > > plus he plays the synthcart or something no?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > ...
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > > > > again, i am sorry for this message. i don't want it to
<br\>seem
<br\>> > > like an
<br\>> > > > > > ad.
<br\>> > > > > >
<br\>> > > > > > thanks,
<br\>> > > > > > chuck
<br\>> >
<br\>> > It seemed like an ad
<br\>> >
<br\>> > peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://web.media.mit.edu/~nvawter/projects/1bit/faq.html
<br\>
<br\>1-bit groovebox!!
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
geez, well sorry to everyone.  I thought i would try to trade with
<br\>people that have the same interest as me.  I know all of you make music
<br\>since you all are on this group and i know many people like badges so i
<br\>thought it would be a great idea to trade.  alot of people promote
<br\>various shows here, so i didn't think it was that much of a problem.
<br\>
<br\>sorry again.
<br\>chuck
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> BANNED
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: want to trade stuff for custom buttons?

Message:
<br\>
Wow, I turn my back for one second...  :)
<br\>
<br\>     Chuck Large is a good egg.  Not only does he make some rulin'
<br\>buttons, his is one of the few webpages dedicated to the Atari Video
<br\>Music.  He's even got schematics and the original manual up there.
<br\>We've chatted in the past, and I seem to recall him having a synthcart.
<br\>
<br\>     So let's welcome him to the group, okay?
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
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<br\>
<br\>EP IS HERE!
<br\>
<br\>8-bit futurist electro-funk space-punk from Emin Jeremy Kolosine
<br\>( Futurisk,Shakespace,Ksine )
<br\>
<br\>*Includes 2 new Gameboy / Sidstation tracks plus 2 new Atari /
<br\>NES tracks!
<br\>*Plus one-of-a-kind Ksine Gameboy Camera stickers included in
<br\>1st 100 copies!
<br\>*(plus a super-secret surprise on each of the 1st 300
<br\>copies...!)
<br\>
<br\>Order / info at http://www.ReceptorsMusic.com
<br\>
<br\>..and catch Receptors LIVE in NYC, this Saturday, April 30th at:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.thetanknyc.org/bent2005/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Clark Humphrey
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Order / info at http://www.ReceptorsMusic.com
<br\>
<br\>BANNED!!  ;o)
<br\>
<br\>j/k.  sorry, couldn't resist!
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>http://web.media.mit.edu/~nvawter/projects/1bit/faq.html
<br\>>
<br\>>1-bit groovebox!!
<br\>
<br\>btw: he's using the exact same synthesis technique that the 2600 and almost
<br\>every 8-bit Atari system uses.  Atari soundchips are only able to produce
<br\>two levels at the output, high or low.  But they stream those bit sequences
<br\>so fast that because of the output capacitors and speakers, the waveform is
<br\>more complex than a square when it reaches your ears.  Probably part of the
<br\>reason Atari 2600 sounds so harsh when piped directly into headphones.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>Sorry but I saw two commercial post in one day, so i disabled the
<br\>account till it could be investigatyed. Its all a moot point now
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>     Wow, I turn my back for one second...  :)
<br\>>
<br\>>     Chuck Large is a good egg.  Not only does he make some rulin'
<br\>> buttons, his is one of the few webpages dedicated to the Atari Video
<br\>> Music.  He's even got schematics and the original manual up there.
<br\>> We've chatted in the past, and I seem to recall him having a synthcart.
<br\>>
<br\>>     So let's welcome him to the group, okay?
<br\>>
<br\>> --
<br\>>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Dont make me ban you...
<br\>
<br\>--- ...In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Order / info at http://www.ReceptorsMusic.com
<br\>>
<br\>> BANNED!!  ;o)
<br\>>
<br\>> j/k.  sorry, couldn't resist!
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
haha...
<br\>but seriously though..to get back to the subject of synthcart
<br\>already!..
<br\>
<br\>these enlargement pills are the bes,t guy! she'll love you for hours!
<br\>be the man she always want...
<br\>
<br\>and we can trade if you want!
<br\>
<br\>jacko kassini
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Dont make me ban you...
<br\>>
<br\>> --- ...In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >Order / info at http://www.ReceptorsMusic.com
<br\>> >
<br\>> > BANNED!!  ;o)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > j/k.  sorry, couldn't resist!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
haha amidst the humorous banter i forgot to ask paul a serious
<br\>question about the cynthcart...
<br\>
<br\>would mens be interested in knowing that specialcomndoms keep hers
<br\>happy for hours and rite now is a special! 1 free badge with every
<br\>box!
<br\>
<br\>j/ksini
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "J Ksine" <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> haha...
<br\>> but seriously though..to get back to the subject of synthcart
<br\>> already!..
<br\>>
<br\>> these enlargement pills are the bes,t guy! she'll love you for
<br\>hours!
<br\>> be the man she always want...
<br\>>
<br\>> and we can trade if you want!
<br\>>
<br\>> jacko kassini
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis
<br\>Swimm"
<br\>> <kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Dont make me ban you...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- ...In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > >Order / info at http://www.ReceptorsMusic.com
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > BANNED!!  ;o)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > j/k.  sorry, couldn't resist!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Anyone at BENT?  did my boards make it there okay?
<br\>
<br\>http://www.thetanknyc.org/bent2005/
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I checked it out for a little bit yesterday.  I saw two of your
<br\>boards - "Home Sweet Home" and "Metallica" I think they were called -
<br\>hanging up just inside the door.  They were all lit up and everything
<br\>all pretty like.  Good job.
<br\>
<br\>-Kevin
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> Anyone at BENT?  did my boards make it there okay?
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.thetanknyc.org/bent2005/
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I checked it out for a little bit yesterday.  I saw two of your
<br\>>boards - "Home Sweet Home" and "Metallica" I think they were called -
<br\>>hanging up just inside the door.  They were all lit up and everything
<br\>>all pretty like.  Good job.
<br\>
<br\>awesome, thanks.  Mike Rosenthal is hard to get in touch with right before
<br\>and during the show, so I figured I was more likely to get a response on
<br\>here.  ;o)
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey! Fuckin' cool sleve design!
<br\>
<br\>Seems like an old times industrial release ;)
<br\>
<br\>Really I love the cover art, congratulations!
<br\>DJ's, spin that wheel!
<br\>
<br\>Ignat.
<br\>
<br\>--- J Ksine <jeremy@ksine.com> escribió:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> haha...
<br\>> but seriously though..to get back to the subject of
<br\>> synthcart
<br\>> already!..
<br\>>
<br\>> these enlargement pills are the bes,t guy! she'll
<br\>> love you for hours!
<br\>> be the man she always want...
<br\>>
<br\>> and we can trade if you want!
<br\>>
<br\>> jacko kassini
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor
<br\>> Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\>> <kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Dont make me ban you...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- ...In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum
<br\>> <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > >Order / info at http://www.ReceptorsMusic.com
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > BANNED!!  ;o)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > j/k.  sorry, couldn't resist!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>______________________________________________
<br\>Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!
<br\>Nuevos servicios, más seguridad
<br\>http://correo.yahoo.es
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> Seems like an old times industrial release ;)>
<br\>
<br\>thanks Ig! My birth was an old times industrial release...
<br\>
<br\>j
<br\>
<br\>http://ksine.com
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, I G natz <quiebre@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Hey! Fuckin' cool sleve design!
<br\>>
<br\>> Seems like an old times industrial release ;)
<br\>>
<br\>> Really I love the cover art, congratulations!
<br\>> DJ's, spin that wheel!
<br\>>
<br\>> Ignat.
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Heh, I would say the same of mine :)
<br\>But my mother will be angry if she hear me ;)
<br\>
<br\>Ok, I actually came from a washing machine, that's why
<br\>my music sounds like that ;)
<br\>
<br\>GNat.
<br\>
<br\>--- J Ksine <jeremy@ksine.com> escribió:
<br\>>
<br\>> > Seems like an old times industrial release ;)>
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks Ig! My birth was an old times industrial
<br\>> release...
<br\>>
<br\>> j
<br\>>
<br\>> http://ksine.com
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, I G natz
<br\>> <quiebre@y...> wrote:
<br\>> > Hey! Fuckin' cool sleve design!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Seems like an old times industrial release ;)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Really I love the cover art, congratulations!
<br\>> > DJ's, spin that wheel!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Ignat.
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>______________________________________________
<br\>Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!
<br\>Nuevos servicios, más seguridad
<br\>http://correo.yahoo.es
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi
<br\>
<br\>I made the mod,now channel left is realy quiet(when i push one
<br\>button)but when i push two buttons on the keypad its normal loud.The
<br\>right side is ok!What`s that,do i something wrong?Anybody knows?
<br\>
<br\>best regards
<br\>
<br\>Tom
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Ok,I think I need a new CX-2600 P.
<br\>>  Is this modification for a Pal version to?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I was thinking about investing in an eprom programmer for 2716 and 2732 chips,
<br\>any
<br\>suggestions?? - kBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Ive built myself a willem 3.1 (http://www.willem.org/) and it works great,
<br\>if you are not into DIY you can buy a complete programmer from ebay,
<br\>www.sivava.com or the willem site itself, just make sure the version you buy
<br\>supports small eproms or you will need some adapters.
<br\>
<br\>Guilherme.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message -----
<br\>From: kbudd777 <lifeinabox@gmail.com>
<br\>To: <synthcart@yahoogroups.com>
<br\>Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 1:30 PM
<br\>Subject: [synthcart] Eprom Programmers
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> I was thinking about investing in an eprom programmer for 2716 and 2732
<br\>chips, any
<br\>> suggestions?? - kBud
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
>I was thinking about investing in an eprom programmer for 2716 and 2732
<br\>>chips, any
<br\>>suggestions?? - kBud
<br\>
<br\>I use the EMP10, but it may be a little overkill.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
On May 16, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>>> I was thinking about investing in an eprom programmer for 2716 and
<br\>>> 2732
<br\>>> chips, any
<br\>>> suggestions?? - kBud
<br\>>
<br\>> I use the EMP10, but it may be a little overkill.
<br\>
<br\>I use a Needham's EMP10 also.  I used a PocketProgrammer until it died
<br\>on me... a bad part zotted it. :(
<br\>
<br\>The Pocket Programmer was really good, really inexpensive.
<br\>http://xtronics.com/memory/EPROM.htm
<br\>
<br\>Just remember to also get an eprom eraser too.  I got a used one from a
<br\>local surplus shop for $15 i think.  It's basically just a UV lamp on a
<br\>timer in a nice box.  :)
<br\>
<br\>-s
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Inspired by the previous topic.
<br\>
<br\>How do you make a 8K cart?
<br\>
<br\>Can a Cart purchased for 32K bankswithing be used for
<br\>anything other then 32K (can I put a 27256 chip on it
<br\>with a 16K game and it work)?
<br\>
<br\>What is a good web page for information of this sort?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>How do you make a 8K cart?
<br\>
<br\>easiest way is to buy an 8k board from Atariage.
<br\>
<br\>>Can a Cart purchased for 32K bankswithing be used for
<br\>>anything other then 32K (can I put a 27256 chip on it
<br\>>with a 16K game and it work)?
<br\>
<br\>generally, no.
<br\>
<br\>>What is a good web page for information of this sort?
<br\>
<br\>http://www.qotile.net/minidig/docs/sizes.txt
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
OK! It's been a few weeks! :) Any news on the release of this cart?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>OK! It's been a few weeks! :) Any news on the release of this cart?
<br\>
<br\>I actually just emailed Albert about it today.  The board supplier is being
<br\>slow getting back.  I'll update you again soon.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
nano, LSDj, some pc soft for samples ... the track
<br\>crying15th is my
<br\>fav nano at the moment, but not even the highlight of
<br\>the ep! dig in!!!
<br\>
<br\>lufff
<br\>j0rdan (Actually Ignat sreading Jrdn words)
<br\>
<br\>====
<br\>
<br\>MP3DEATH UPDATED 2005-05-14:
<br\>
<br\>http://mp3death.us/
<br\>http://mp3death.us/m3d032.zip
<br\>
<br\>CATALOG:    M3D032
<br\>TITLE:      GLACIAL ERA
<br\>ARTIST:     NEOTERICZ
<br\>
<br\>FORMAT:     MP3, JPG, TXT
<br\>LENGTH:     25:32
<br\>BYTES:      8,812,674
<br\>
<br\>HYPE!
<br\>
<br\>tracks that not only fills loveparade
<br\>deft care taken on game boy.
<br\>you only need to be humans
<br\>you only need to feed upon our friends
<br\>
<br\>he makes a triumphant return
<br\>the whole release. this work.
<br\>
<br\>the music for devotional impact
<br\>of your existence.
<br\>and as the playlists of djs such
<br\>an elegant way to consolidate
<br\>a grand success for a computer
<br\>
<br\>absolutely a taste of what's inside
<br\>the masterful culture and then,
<br\>fat beats will give this listening
<br\>a push forward. short and sweet.
<br\>
<br\>so, from the standard
<br\>with the groovy orange international,
<br\>the second enjoy.
<br\>
<br\>URL:
<br\>
<br\>http://mp3death.us/
<br\>http://mp3death.us/m3d032.zip
<br\>
<br\>====
<br\>
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<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
are you guys using alpha works or pixels past?  is the new version done?  not
<br\>that it
<br\>matters much since my power supply just burnt out.- kbud
<br\>


Subject:
Re: M3D032 released ... NEOTERICZ is back

Message:
<br\>
that's my fave also..the whole thing is nice and minmal purist
<br\>sounds...
<br\>
<br\>plus we're immortalized in the  nice thankyou in the liner notes :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\><<the track
<br\>> crying15th is my
<br\>> fav nano at the moment, but not even the highlight of
<br\>> the ep! dig in!!!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I'm having the exact same problem (if it makes you feel any
<br\>better).  Same error messages, same weird symbols.  Have you made
<br\>any progress with this?  Maybe I should just wait for the cart.  And
<br\>I do live in NYC but I'm not sure how much of a help I could be.
<br\>
<br\>-Kevin
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Gridley" <sgridley@h...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> I just got a commodore 64 and was very excited to load Paul's
<br\>cynthcart onto
<br\>> it but have had some trouble getting it to load.  I dubbed the
<br\>tape from
<br\>> treewave's cd and popped it into the datasette.  Sometimes it
<br\>doesn't
<br\>> recognize the tape.  Other times is actually says "found" but it's
<br\>normally
<br\>> followed by strange symbols.  Then after the "found" screen it
<br\>says either
<br\>> "out of memory error" or "load error" or it just stops
<br\>responding.  I have
<br\>> the original "music maker" program for c-64 and that loads fine so
<br\>I don't
<br\>> think it's a hardware problem, though I'm don't really know.  I
<br\>got a new
<br\>> tape and I think it's dubbing fine.  Has anybody run across a
<br\>problem like
<br\>> this?  Is there another way to load the program other than
<br\>cassette?  I"m
<br\>> not much for soldering, however, and would be afraid to screw up
<br\>the
<br\>> computer.  By the way, does anybody out there wth some knowledge
<br\>on this
<br\>> stuff live in NY?  Thanks!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Steve Gridley
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>logicbomb
<br\>bit shifter
<br\>firestARTer
<br\>neotericz
<br\>nullsleep
<br\>receptors
<br\>bud melvin
<br\>glomag
<br\>m-.-n
<br\>overthruster
<br\>aonami
<br\>8 bit weapon
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<br\>hello
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<br\>
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<br\>
<br\>Stay tuned for more info!
<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>
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Subject:
Gainlad''s new Slpit MP(microplay) from MWA· autocide· Receptors

SubjectSrt:
Gainlad''s new Slpit MP(microplay) from MWA· autocide· Receptors

Message:
<br\>
Hey there,
<br\>Gainlad netlabel proudly presents this new MP
<br\>(microplay) 'redNails'
<br\>from unique split personality J·Ksine
<br\>also known as Mommy Was an Asteroid, Receptors,
<br\>autocide.
<br\>
<br\>a Tour de Force through distorted landscapes and
<br\>slippery lands, all surrounded by shapeshifting
<br\>bizarre creatures everywhere. Just jump to catch the
<br\>fruit!
<br\>
<br\>http://www.gainlad.gameboymall.com
<br\>
<br\>thanks in advance! Ignat
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>______________________________________________
<br\>Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!
<br\>1GB de capacidad, nuevos servicios y más seguridad
<br\>http://correo.yahoo.es
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
New Release on gainlad netlabel
<br\>
<br\>The fourth release in gainlad is called 'allOverAgain'
<br\>
<br\>From aRagStain (starpause/k9d) deep chip melodies into
<br\>
<br\>moody monomachine flavours.
<br\>
<br\>Personally I found this work to be the best I listened
<br\>from Jºrdan.
<br\>
<br\>Download from:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.gainlad.gameboymall.com
<br\>
<br\>Thankz.
<br\>Glad Crew.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>______________________________________________
<br\>Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!
<br\>Nuevos servicios, más seguridad
<br\>http://correo.yahoo.es
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi, ppl
<br\>
<br\>I just wanted to tell you about this cover of
<br\>Tiga - Pleasure from the bass
<br\>
<br\>is 100% gameboy made with no editting on pc.
<br\>
<br\><http://gainlad.gameboymall.com/about.htm>
<br\>is called pleasure from the gameboy :)
<br\>
<br\>Thanks. Ignat
<br\>
<br\>more tracks:
<br\>http://soundclick.com/neotericz
<br\>http://soundclick.com/djignat
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>______________________________________________
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<br\>Nuevos servicios, más seguridad
<br\>http://correo.yahoo.es
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Recently there has beena  flood of new music, which is great, but very
<br\>little of it is synthcart related. I have added the following to the
<br\>Yahoo! Group description:
<br\>
<br\>Note: There are plenty of great places to showcase you chipmusic
<br\>(VORC, micromusic, et al) Please refrain from posting plugs for items
<br\>that do not include any Synthcart, Cynthcart, or Atari 2600 sequencer
<br\>type programs. Those of us on multiple lists thank you in advance
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I know we are low traffic, but I would still like to be no traffic,
<br\>than highly redundant traffic.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks in advance
<br\>
<br\>Peter Swimm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
There has been talk about a possible updated cynthcart program floating around
<br\>for a
<br\>while, does anyone know anything about this? is it available yet? is it
<br\>complete? - kBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
"can be assembled to replace the c64 BASIC ROM"  this is from the
<br\>cynthcart site and this is what i want to do.  I have a c64 that i
<br\>just can't load anything onto.  I've tried the data cassette, i've
<br\>made the xm1541 cable but can't figure out how to install the 64hd.
<br\>
<br\>i've opened my c64 and located the basic rom, its 24 pin.  I would
<br\>like to replace it with a EPROM with cynthcart on it.
<br\>
<br\>questions are: were to get the replacement EPROM?  and who can program
<br\>the cyncart onto it?
<br\>
<br\>please, i want to start getting some sound out of this baby.
<br\>
<br\>thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kbudd777" <lifeinabox@g...> wrote:
<br\>> There has been talk about a possible updated cynthcart program
<br\>floating around for a
<br\>> while, does anyone know anything about this? is it available yet? is
<br\>it complete? - kBud
<br\>
<br\>i dont know, but I am unable to run it on mmc64 due to half ass floppy
<br\>drive support in mmc64. Retroskoi works fine, as well as the prophet64
<br\>style progies
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I can't afford such thinks, I was looking for this because it does not rely on
<br\>saving just live
<br\>play and I have two unpopulated cartridge pcbs waiting for the updated version
<br\>paul keeps
<br\>teasing us with. :) - kBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Albert hasn't heard from the guys making the C64 boards.  We'll try
<br\>to contact them again.
<br\>
<br\>Haven't updated the Cynthcart recently.
<br\>
<br\>The BASIC ROM replacement is the least reliable way to install it,
<br\>and the biggest pain in the butt.  Mine that was set up like that
<br\>broke, and I haven't figured out what's wrong.  Definitely bad for
<br\>air travel, the EPROM popped out and some of the wires came loose or something.
<br\>
<br\>My understanding is that the C128 is pin compatible with a regular
<br\>EPROM though.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> Albert hasn't heard from the guys making the C64 boards.  We'll try
<br\>> to contact them again.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>EXCUSES! I say we start to make threats! :)
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've made contact with the manufacturer of the C64 boards, so things
<br\>should get moving pretty quickly now.  :)
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>____________________________________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Jul 5, 2005, at 1:01 PM, chvad_sb wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>> Albert hasn't heard from the guys making the C64 boards.  We'll try
<br\>>> to contact them again.
<br\>>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> EXCUSES! I say we start to make threats! :)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=73678
<br\>
<br\>expensive but solderless
<br\>
<br\>"composite video & Svideo outputs and also the TIA stereo mod which
<br\>separates the two channel audio from the TIA and ouputs them to the
<br\>left and right audio of your stereo or amp. Great for using with the
<br\>Synthcart. It will be available on the 8bitdomain.com website this
<br\>weekend. The heavy sixer mod will also be available this weekend too,
<br\>price is $39.50 assembled and tested."
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Maybe someone here can help...
<br\>
<br\>I'm in the process of learning 6502 assembly. Will writing a game on
<br\>my c64 be difficult to transfer to my 2600? I'd rather not mess with
<br\>emulators. and I could probably pull together an Atari 400/800 if I
<br\>thought it would work better.
<br\>
<br\>Any tips? A point in the right direction maybe?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I'm in the process of learning 6502 assembly. Will writing a game on
<br\>>my c64 be difficult to transfer to my 2600?
<br\>
<br\>While the 2600 does run 6502 code, the memory restrictions and
<br\>graphics limitations would force a lot of rewriting.  However,
<br\>porting code from a 2600 game to the C64 would make more sense.
<br\>
<br\>I have a page on 2600 programming:
<br\>http://www.qotile.net/minidig/
<br\>
<br\>>  I'd rather not mess with
<br\>>emulators.
<br\>
<br\>Why?  Emulators save me tons of development time.  Z26 and VICE are
<br\>very accurate.
<br\>
<br\>>and I could probably pull together an Atari 400/800 if I
<br\>>thought it would work better.
<br\>
<br\>Porting from C64 to Atari 8-bit computers would be much easier than
<br\>porting from C64 -> 2600.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
"Jeremy" <cutthroatfreakshow@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>> I'm in the process of learning 6502 assembly.
<br\>
<br\>This probably isn't the best place to start...  But see the Programming forum
<br\>on http://www.atariage.com and http://stella.biglist.com (subscribing can be
<br\>done under the "unsubscribe" link for some reason).
<br\>
<br\>> Will writing a game on my c64 be difficult to transfer to my 2600?
<br\>
<br\>Writing ANYTHING will be difficult to transfer to the 2600.  :-)  Seriously,
<br\>the 2600 is an odd beast, very limited even compared to other 6502
<br\>machines.
<br\>
<br\>> I'd rather not mess with emulators.
<br\>
<br\>How do you mean?  Running code in an emulator is a good first test.
<br\>
<br\>Or are you wanting to use a C64 to actually type and compile your code
<br\>on, then move it somehow to the 2600?  I'm sure it's possibly with some
<br\>kind of memory cart, but even then you'll probably have more look
<br\>working on a PC.
<br\>
<br\>> and I could probably pull together an Atari 400/800 if I thought it would
<br\>> work better.
<br\>
<br\>Still a PC, if I'm understanding you correctly now.
<br\>
<br\>> Any tips? A point in the right direction maybe?
<br\>
<br\>Hopefully Paul will see your note, as he'll probably more help than I, but
<br\>check out the links I included above for starters.
<br\>--
<br\>//*================================================================++
<br\>||  Russ Perry Jr   2175 S Tonne Dr #114   Arlington Hts IL 60005  ||
<br\>||  847-952-9729    slapdash@rcn.com [NEW!]  VIDEOGAME COLLECTOR!  ||
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I recently purchased a Magic Desk I catrige to build a
<br\>Cynthcart. I was looking on the site for some info on
<br\>the binary file so I could program an EPROM. I
<br\>downloaded the zip that said it contained a binary
<br\>file but all I found were three files: cnth711.crt,
<br\>cnth711.prg, and cnth711.txt.
<br\>
<br\>could someone point me in the right direction as to
<br\>what I need to do to program an EPROM for placing on
<br\>the Magic Desk I cart.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>file but all I found were three files: cnth711.crt,
<br\>>cnth711.prg, and cnth711.txt.
<br\>
<br\>If you can strip the first two bytes off the .prg, that should do
<br\>it.  If not I can email you the raw binary tonight.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I dont know how to do that, but it would be cool to
<br\>know too. Emailing the binary to me would be awsome.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >file but all I found were three files: cnth711.crt,
<br\>> >cnth711.prg, and cnth711.txt.
<br\>>
<br\>> If you can strip the first two bytes off the .prg,
<br\>> that should do
<br\>> it.  If not I can email you the raw binary tonight.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks for the input guys. I'm just jumping into this before I really
<br\>know anything about anything.
<br\>
<br\>I don't want to use emulators because it means upgrades to this POS
<br\>imac. I really just want to get moving. I have dumploads of out of
<br\>date technology and if I have to upgrade to replicate something I
<br\>already have, I don't see the point. But if that's really THE way to
<br\>go I'll do it anyway. I'm not an OE/analog purist or anything.
<br\>
<br\>My grand plan (don't snicker TOO loud, I know it's flawed, I just
<br\>don't know where yet) was to write a game entirely on the c64, and
<br\>then flash it to an eeprom at a buddies house and play that jive on a
<br\>2600. Now I know this HAS to be more complicated. I guess I just have
<br\>to keep reading  books.
<br\>
<br\>Now that I've completely exposed myself as a noob, should I just give
<br\>that up and get a freakin emulator or continue as planned?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
"Jeremy" <cutthroatfreakshow@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>> I don't want to use emulators because it means upgrades to this POS
<br\>> imac.
<br\>
<br\>Really?  What are you running?  I have an iMac, and Stella runs fine,
<br\>though I can't run most "new" ROMs due to the whole "profile" thing
<br\>(and that's probably mostly because I haven't looked to see how to
<br\>create proper profile entries).
<br\>
<br\>> My grand plan (don't snicker TOO loud, I know it's flawed, I just
<br\>> don't know where yet) was to write a game entirely on the c64, and
<br\>> then flash it to an eeprom at a buddies house and play that jive on a
<br\>> 2600.
<br\>
<br\>The biggest problem is just that you'll have to constantly move it to
<br\>the 2600 for testing.  A program that runs on the C64 will NOT run
<br\>as is on the 2600 -- that's the flaw in your plan.  On the other hand,
<br\>you should be able to create a BIN file on the C64 that WILL run on
<br\>the 2600, assuming the assemblers let you do what you need to do.
<br\>Then it's just the transferring that might be a bother, but if you have
<br\>a C64 that can write (E)EPROMs, then you're good there.  It's the
<br\>same story with the Atari 400/800 -- code won't run on both, but
<br\>you should be able to assemble code for the 2600 on the 400/800.
<br\>
<br\>> Now I know this HAS to be more complicated. I guess I just have
<br\>> to keep reading  books.
<br\>
<br\>Forget books, go online young man!  There's a lot of tutorial info out
<br\>there.  Well, okay, a good 6502 book might help if you're new to it...
<br\>
<br\>> Now that I've completely exposed myself as a noob, should I just
<br\>> give that up and get a freakin emulator or continue as planned?
<br\>
<br\>I honestly think the emulator approach is going to be better for you
<br\>in the long run, but if you can get what you have working, that's
<br\>great.
<br\>
<br\>One thing to consider though...  If you get a game going, how are
<br\>you going to distribute to others (assuming you plan to)?  That will
<br\>be easier on/from a newer computer I would think, though not
<br\>impossible from a C64 or Atari 400/800.  Something to bear in mind,
<br\>anyway.
<br\>--
<br\>//*================================================================++
<br\>||  Russ Perry Jr   2175 S Tonne Dr #114   Arlington Hts IL 60005  ||
<br\>||  847-952-9729    slapdash@rcn.com [NEW!]  VIDEOGAME COLLECTOR!  ||
<br\>++================================================================*//
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I honestly think the emulator approach is going to be better for you
<br\>>in the long run,
<br\>
<br\>I agree.  man, you can probably get a PC that'll run the emulators
<br\>fine for about $100.  A fast, decked out PII or midrange PIII should
<br\>be fine.  And a lot of EPROM burners and emulators only support PC.
<br\>
<br\>>One thing to consider though...  If you get a game going, how are
<br\>>you going to distribute to others (assuming you plan to)?  That will
<br\>>be easier on/from a newer computer I would think, though not
<br\>>impossible from a C64 or Atari 400/800.  Something to bear in mind,
<br\>>anyway.
<br\>
<br\>It might be difficult to get the source code off (I had a hell of a
<br\>time getting Star Commander working with my 1541), but if you can
<br\>burn an EPROM of the game, you can distribute it.  Anybody who
<br\>manufactures Atari games will have an EPROM burner, and burners are
<br\>also readers.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So I used a HEX Editor to remove the first two bytes,
<br\>I didnt think it was going to be that simple. Burned
<br\>the binary file to a 2764 removed all of the 2364
<br\>chips from the Magic Desk I cart and replaced it with
<br\>the 2764. Plugged it in and it works.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks Paul
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> I dont know how to do that, but it would be cool to
<br\>> know too. Emailing the binary to me would be awsome.
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >file but all I found were three files:
<br\>> cnth711.crt,
<br\>> > >cnth711.prg, and cnth711.txt.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > If you can strip the first two bytes off the .prg,
<br\>> > that should do
<br\>> > it.  If not I can email you the raw binary
<br\>> tonight.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>So I used a HEX Editor to remove the first two bytes,
<br\>>I didnt think it was going to be that simple. Burned
<br\>>the binary file to a 2764 removed all of the 2364
<br\>>chips from the Magic Desk I cart and replaced it with
<br\>>the 2764. Plugged it in and it works.
<br\>
<br\>cool, sorry I forgot about sending the file.  Glad you figured it
<br\>out.  The first two bytes just tell the C64 where to load the disk
<br\>file, whereas the cartridge always appears at a fixed location.
<br\>
<br\>You actually don't have to remove the other 3 2364's from the Magic Desk.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
btw: boards are ordered, I'm finalizing the first release ROM and
<br\>putting together a manual.  Making the settings a little less
<br\>Tree-Wave-centric and adding a couple of extra features I've been
<br\>meaning to put in.
<br\>
<br\>Should be available at Atariage in a couple of weeks or so for about
<br\>$30.  As I've mentioned before, it'll come on a socketed board so it
<br\>can easily be upgraded later.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
No problem with forgetting about the file, I would
<br\>have sent a reminder had I ran into any problems.
<br\>
<br\>I didnt think the other chips needed to be removed, I
<br\>programed a 27256 chip to begin with not knowing it
<br\>was the wrong chip to be using without modifying the
<br\>cartrige. So I removed them thinking the other chips
<br\>might have bene causing an error.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks for the info.
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >So I used a HEX Editor to remove the first two
<br\>> bytes,
<br\>> >I didnt think it was going to be that simple.
<br\>> Burned
<br\>> >the binary file to a 2764 removed all of the 2364
<br\>> >chips from the Magic Desk I cart and replaced it
<br\>> with
<br\>> >the 2764. Plugged it in and it works.
<br\>>
<br\>> cool, sorry I forgot about sending the file.  Glad
<br\>> you figured it
<br\>> out.  The first two bytes just tell the C64 where to
<br\>> load the disk
<br\>> file, whereas the cartridge always appears at a
<br\>> fixed location.
<br\>>
<br\>> You actually don't have to remove the other 3 2364's
<br\>> from the Magic Desk.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> btw: boards are ordered, I'm finalizing the first release ROM and
<br\>> putting together a manual.  Making the settings a little less
<br\>> Tree-Wave-centric and adding a couple of extra features I've been
<br\>> meaning to put in.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>oooh dish!
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey Paul, What do you know about the boards that were ordered? Does it use a
<br\>BinHex
<br\>converter?  I have an Alphaworks board that has a slot for an eprom but thats
<br\>all, and I
<br\>was wondering if it would work? - kBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Does it use a BinHex
<br\>>converter?
<br\>
<br\>Hmmm, I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but I don't use hex format
<br\>files for C64 stuff.
<br\>
<br\>>I have an Alphaworks board that has a slot for an eprom but thats all, and I
<br\>>was wondering if it would work? - kBud
<br\>
<br\>Yeah, I've been using an Alphaworks board for our live shows for
<br\>quite some time with no problems.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Allright. I'm going to go for emulators and what not. The DASM I
<br\>thought I had for my c64 is nowhere to be found.
<br\>
<br\>I'm running OS 8.6 on my Imac. I haven't been able to get stella to
<br\>work on it. I suspect stuffit blows goats when it should be unzipping
<br\>files.
<br\>
<br\>I'll probably just read up on 6502 assembly until I finish building  a
<br\>proper PC next week.
<br\>
<br\>One more question (or two);
<br\>Which data assemblers, compilers, etc, are you folks running?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks a dumpload for all the advice and help.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Which data assemblers, compilers, etc, are you folks running?
<br\>
<br\>I used DASM for both C64 and 2600.  And I used Crimson Editor to edit
<br\>the files and launch the assemblers and emulators.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
At 7:04 PM +0000 8/4/05, Jeremy wrote:
<br\>> I'm running OS 8.6 on my Imac. I haven't been able to get stella
<br\>> to work on it.
<br\>
<br\>Odd.  I'm running 8.6 myself, and have no problems running Stella.
<br\>
<br\>> I suspect stuffit blows goats when it should be unzipping files.
<br\>
<br\>Again, odd.  I have Stuffit Expander 5.1.1, and it unzips perfectly
<br\>in my experience.  Maybe try a newer version?
<br\>
<br\>> I'll probably just read up on 6502 assembly until I finish
<br\>> building a proper PC next week.
<br\>
<br\>That might be better anyway; though I'm a Mac guy, and it pays me
<br\>to say it, the PC offers you more choices for emulators to run, and
<br\>tools, and probably other things like EPROM burners etc.
<br\>
<br\>On the other hand, there's an AtariMac page that might be helpful
<br\>if you want to use your Mac after all.  I don't have the URL handy,
<br\>but a search for "AtariMac" should find it.  It used to work anyway.
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Message:
<br\>
SWEET!!!!
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> btw: boards are ordered, I'm finalizing the first release ROM and
<br\>> putting together a manual.  Making the settings a little less
<br\>> Tree-Wave-centric and adding a couple of extra features I've been
<br\>> meaning to put in.
<br\>>
<br\>> Should be available at Atariage in a couple of weeks or so for about
<br\>> $30.  As I've mentioned before, it'll come on a socketed board so it
<br\>> can easily be upgraded later.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Well for example while original atari carts have just the rom, while the Atari
<br\>age atari carts
<br\>have a bin hex inverter, And I was just making sure that it would work with the
<br\>Alphaworks stuff.  So would it be possible to get just the eprom from albert
<br\>when it is
<br\>ready??? - kBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Well for example while original atari carts have just the rom, while
<br\>>the Atari age atari carts
<br\>>have a bin hex inverter, And I was just making sure that it would
<br\>>work with the
<br\>>Alphaworks stuff.  So would it be possible to get just the eprom
<br\>>from albert when it is
<br\>>ready??? - kBud
<br\>
<br\>Oh right, I was totally confused.  Better to just say "an
<br\>inverter".  No the Atari 2600 is unique in that it has an inverted
<br\>chip enable line.  I'm not aware of any other console or computer
<br\>that requires one.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Well the NES uses one two on a bunch of stuff and since I was new with the C64,
<br\>I thought
<br\>I would ask before I wasted any more money, - kBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Im trying to find a way to test the sid chip in my
<br\>C64. The chip I have is a 6581. I get no audio out of
<br\>either of the RF or A/V outputs.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>Have you tested to see if power is getting to the chip?? its a good place to
<br\>start before you spend a lot of time on it...
<br\>
<br\>Ktronik
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Jesse Smith
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:05 PM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] Commodore SID Question
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Im trying to find a way to test the sid chip in my
<br\>   C64. The chip I have is a 6581. I get no audio out of
<br\>   either of the RF or A/V outputs.
<br\>
<br\>   Thanks,
<br\>   Jesse
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>Im trying to find a way to test the sid chip in my
<br\>>C64. The chip I have is a 6581. I get no audio out of
<br\>>either of the RF or A/V outputs.
<br\>
<br\>I would say if you're getting no audio, it's probably a bad
<br\>SID.  Easiest way to test it is probably to swap it out, but I think
<br\>they're usually soldered down.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Its getting good voltage I did at least test that.
<br\>
<br\>--- quill / k-tronik <quill@cyberone.com.au> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>>
<br\>> Have you tested to see if power is getting to the
<br\>> chip?? its a good place to start before you spend a
<br\>> lot of time on it...
<br\>>
<br\>> Ktronik
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>>   From: Jesse Smith
<br\>>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>   Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:05 PM
<br\>>   Subject: [synthcart] Commodore SID Question
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   Im trying to find a way to test the sid chip in my
<br\>>   C64. The chip I have is a 6581. I get no audio out
<br\>> of
<br\>>   either of the RF or A/V outputs.
<br\>>
<br\>>   Thanks,
<br\>>   Jesse
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Message:
<br\>
I think mine actually has a socket but I will look at
<br\>it a little closer. Looks like Ill be ordering a chip
<br\>this payday.
<br\>
<br\>Does anyone know of a good place to purchase one. I
<br\>found a place in Utah that has them for $30.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >Im trying to find a way to test the sid chip in my
<br\>> >C64. The chip I have is a 6581. I get no audio out
<br\>> of
<br\>> >either of the RF or A/V outputs.
<br\>>
<br\>> I would say if you're getting no audio, it's
<br\>> probably a bad
<br\>> SID.  Easiest way to test it is probably to swap it
<br\>> out, but I think
<br\>> they're usually soldered down.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Does anyone know of a good place to purchase one. I
<br\>>found a place in Utah that has them for $30.
<br\>
<br\>It'll probably be cheapest to buy another C64 on ebay (and then
<br\>you'll have more spare parts).
<br\>
<br\>Or just try to find one at a thrift/garage sale.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=322
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Cynthcart
<br\>by Paul Slocum  $30.00 (+$5 if you want a cart case)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Paul Slocum has been hard at work creating more tools for musicians
<br\>to generate music with old-school hardware, and his latest creation
<br\>is the Cynthcart for the Commodore 64. The Commodore 64's SID chip
<br\>can produce some amazing audio (especially considering its age!) and
<br\>Paul uses it in much of his music (if you're not aware, Paul makes up
<br\>one half of the band Tree Wave, definitely worth checking out if you
<br\>haven't already). Paul created the Cynthcart to turn the Commodore 64
<br\>into a kickass synthesizer, and it's now evolved enough where he can
<br\>share it with other musicians.
<br\>
<br\>Cynthcart Feaures:
<br\>
<br\>3 Note Polyphony
<br\>Works with the common C64 piano keyboard overlay
<br\>No latency
<br\>Can change patches and settings while playing
<br\>Support for 2nd SID chip (stereo chorus effect)
<br\>Filter cutoff control via paddle controller
<br\>Portamento
<br\>Generates color patterns based on notes played
<br\>Ability to turn off video chip to reduce noise
<br\>Cartridge version copies itself to RAM (you can remove the cart)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=322
<br\>
<br\>that page still needs a little work.  Those audio clips aren't a
<br\>great representation since it won't support the Magic Voice at this
<br\>point, and it doesn't have echo currently implemented, although it
<br\>may be the time it's actually released.  Might be a few other extra
<br\>features when it's released as well.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yeah, but the "cynthcart4.mp3" is a SICK groove.  SIIIIICK!
<br\>
<br\>-B
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=322
<br\>>
<br\>> that page still needs a little work.  Those audio clips aren't a
<br\>> great representation since it won't support the Magic Voice at this
<br\>> point, and it doesn't have echo currently implemented, although it
<br\>> may be the time it's actually released.  Might be a few other extra
<br\>> features when it's released as well.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Just ordered it! Thanks! (kicks the tape drive to the corner and jumps
<br\>and screams and cheers!)
<br\>
<br\>-Chvad
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "dotdUmmy" <bradyleo@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Yeah, but the "cynthcart4.mp3" is a SICK groove.  SIIIIICK!
<br\>>
<br\>> -B
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=322
<br\>> >
<br\>> > that page still needs a little work.  Those audio clips aren't a
<br\>> > great representation since it won't support the Magic Voice at this
<br\>> > point, and it doesn't have echo currently implemented, although it
<br\>> > may be the time it's actually released.  Might be a few other extra
<br\>> > features when it's released as well.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Something I forgot to talk about to you guys and Albert is that the
<br\>C64 boards with a socketed EPROM will not fit inside a case.  So you
<br\>can either just get the EPROM soldered to the board (which means it
<br\>will be a little more difficult to upgrade later, and you'll probably
<br\>want a desoldering iron to do it) or you can get the socketed board
<br\>and case, and cut a hole in the case yourself.  This is pretty easy
<br\>to do, you just drill a bunch of holes along the outline of the where
<br\>the EPROM is, and then use wire cutters to cut between the
<br\>holes.  Connect-the-dots.
<br\>
<br\>For those who have already ordered one with a case, you might contact
<br\>Albert and let him know what you want to do.  We'll make this clear
<br\>on the ordering page.
<br\>
<br\>I use bare socketed boards myself.  The cases are nice and make it
<br\>easier to insert, but the boards are pretty sturdy by themselves, and
<br\>I customize the ROM often enough that I finally decided it was just
<br\>easier to not mess with the case.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Greetings,
<br\>
<br\>I received the Commodore 64 boards yesterday and one of the first
<br\>things I tried was to solder a socket onto a board, plug an EPROM
<br\>into the socket, and then stuff the board into a C64 cart.  Of
<br\>course, as soon as I opened up the cart I realized this probably was
<br\>not going to happen, but I tried nonetheless.  And sure enough, the
<br\>board does not fit into the cartridge with a socket.  So I am going
<br\>to offer three options:
<br\>
<br\>1) Board with the EPROM installed in a socket
<br\>2) Board with the EPROM soldered directly to the board, in a C64 cart
<br\>shell
<br\>2) Board with the EPROM installed in a socket, and a loose C64 cart
<br\>shell to allow those who want to cut a hole in the cart shell to
<br\>still have a socket.
<br\>
<br\>I have updated the store with these new options.  I will send email
<br\>to everyone who's already ordered a Cynthcart with the cartridge
<br\>housing how they'd like to proceed.
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On Aug 11, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Something I forgot to talk about to you guys and Albert is that the
<br\>> C64 boards with a socketed EPROM will not fit inside a case.  So you
<br\>> can either just get the EPROM soldered to the board (which means it
<br\>> will be a little more difficult to upgrade later, and you'll probably
<br\>> want a desoldering iron to do it) or you can get the socketed board
<br\>> and case, and cut a hole in the case yourself.  This is pretty easy
<br\>> to do, you just drill a bunch of holes along the outline of the where
<br\>> the EPROM is, and then use wire cutters to cut between the
<br\>> holes.  Connect-the-dots.
<br\>>
<br\>> For those who have already ordered one with a case, you might contact
<br\>> Albert and let him know what you want to do.  We'll make this clear
<br\>> on the ordering page.
<br\>>
<br\>> I use bare socketed boards myself.  The cases are nice and make it
<br\>> easier to insert, but the boards are pretty sturdy by themselves, and
<br\>> I customize the ROM often enough that I finally decided it was just
<br\>> easier to not mess with the case.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
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Message:
<br\>
I had a though on the bus today. I see that stereo mode generates a
<br\>chorus effect. Anyway of adding a feature in the future to let the 2nd
<br\>paddle control chorus depth between the two chips? I have two
<br\>commdores and would be willing to let one go for this feature...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>unison on/off might be cool as well
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> want a desoldering iron to do it) or you can get the socketed board
<br\>> and case, and cut a hole in the case yourself.  This is pretty easy
<br\>> to do, you just drill a bunch of holes along the outline of the where
<br\>> the EPROM is, and then use wire cutters to cut between the
<br\>> holes.  Connect-the-dots.
<br\>>
<br\>> For those who have already ordered one with a case, you might contact
<br\>> Albert and let him know what you want to do.  We'll make this clear
<br\>> on the ordering page.
<br\>>
<br\>> I use bare socketed boards myself.  The cases are nice and make it
<br\>> easier to insert, but the boards are pretty sturdy by themselves, and
<br\>> I customize the ROM often enough that I finally decided it was just
<br\>> easier to not mess with the case.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
This is likely a dopey question, but here's one concerning Cynthcart
<br\>being compatible with SID symphony.  Doesn't SID plug in the cart port
<br\>as well?  Or does it plug into one of the other ports?  Is this where it
<br\>becomes handy that you can remove the Cynthcart cartridge once it's
<br\>loaded so that you can slap in SID Symphony?
<br\>
<br\>     I gotta get my Commodore out of storage for this!
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So I picked up an additional Commodore 64 and Im still
<br\>having the same results no audio out of the A/V port
<br\>nor out of the RF.
<br\>
<br\>Is the function of the program just like a keyboard,
<br\>and if Im seeing a visual display scrolling horizontal
<br\>across the screen then I should be hearing something
<br\>as well or is there something else.
<br\>
<br\>I really dont think I could have 2 bad units but I
<br\>havent been able to rule that out.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >Does anyone know of a good place to purchase one. I
<br\>> >found a place in Utah that has them for $30.
<br\>>
<br\>> It'll probably be cheapest to buy another C64 on
<br\>> ebay (and then
<br\>> you'll have more spare parts).
<br\>>
<br\>> Or just try to find one at a thrift/garage sale.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>     This is likely a dopey question, but here's one concerning Cynthcart
<br\>>being compatible with SID symphony.  Doesn't SID plug in the cart port
<br\>>as well?  Or does it plug into one of the other ports?  Is this where it
<br\>>becomes handy that you can remove the Cynthcart cartridge once it's
<br\>>loaded so that you can slap in SID Symphony?
<br\>
<br\>I believe that using one of those multi-cart expanders should work, haven't
<br\>verified this yet though.  I haven't tried removing the cart and inserting
<br\>the SID Symphony.  That might work, but the C64 could crash if you insert a
<br\>cart while it's running.  It's worth a try though.
<br\>
<br\>There are some double SID boards that I've seen on the internet, although
<br\>they're still in development.
<br\>
<br\>Also, I found this week that VICE emulates dual-SIDs very well.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Is the function of the program just like a keyboard,
<br\>>and if Im seeing a visual display scrolling horizontal
<br\>>across the screen then I should be hearing something
<br\>>as well or is there something else.
<br\>
<br\>yeah, should be hearing sound, Q-P should play notes.  And you should hear
<br\>the C64 background noise even if you don't have anything loaded.  That
<br\>seems odd that you would get two bad ones.
<br\>
<br\>It's possible that you have a bad power supply though.  I think I've heard
<br\>that a 64C will boot if there's no 9VAC, but there will be no
<br\>sound.  Although, I know cassette won't work if 9VAC is missing.  Or if the
<br\>5V voltage is too high, it could be blowing the SID.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I have tried two different power supplies on the both
<br\>of the commodores. On the SID from pin 14 to 25 I read
<br\>4.95Vdc on the first power supply and on the second I
<br\>read 5.08Vdc.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >Is the function of the program just like a
<br\>> keyboard,
<br\>> >and if Im seeing a visual display scrolling
<br\>> horizontal
<br\>> >across the screen then I should be hearing
<br\>> something
<br\>> >as well or is there something else.
<br\>>
<br\>> yeah, should be hearing sound, Q-P should play
<br\>> notes.  And you should hear
<br\>> the C64 background noise even if you don't have
<br\>> anything loaded.  That
<br\>> seems odd that you would get two bad ones.
<br\>>
<br\>> It's possible that you have a bad power supply
<br\>> though.  I think I've heard
<br\>> that a 64C will boot if there's no 9VAC, but there
<br\>> will be no
<br\>> sound.  Although, I know cassette won't work if 9VAC
<br\>> is missing.  Or if the
<br\>> 5V voltage is too high, it could be blowing the SID.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi, where can i get a "musical notes" keyboard overlay like pauls for
<br\>the C64??
<br\>
<br\>also, do i need a monitor to use a c64 as a synth with the cynthcart?
<br\>  i dont have one yet.
<br\>
<br\>thanks
<br\>thomas
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>hi, where can i get a "musical notes" keyboard overlay like pauls for
<br\>>the C64??
<br\>
<br\>ebay.  http://search.ebay.com/commodore-keyboard
<br\>
<br\>>also, do i need a monitor to use a c64 as a synth with the cynthcart?
<br\>>  i dont have one yet.
<br\>
<br\>Don't need a monitor.  Each setting has a dedicated key on the C64
<br\>keyboard, no menus or anything.  I hardly ever use it with a monitor.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
on atariage, theres options about having it without cart or socket,
<br\>what socket are we talking about? and will there ever be a way it'll
<br\>have both?
<br\>


Subject:
i thinking about getting a video demodulator for the atari 2600

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Message:
<br\>
will it give clear sound? no hissing in the background
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> on atariage, theres options about having it without cart or socket,
<br\>> what socket are we talking about? and will there ever be a way it'll
<br\>> have both?
<br\>
<br\>A socket for the EPROM.  Without a socket the EPROM will be soldered
<br\>directly to the board, and will need to be desoldered to be upgraded.
<br\>  With a socket the EPROM can just be pryed off with a screwdriver.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Subject:
Re: i thinking about getting a video demodulator for the atari 2600

Message:
<br\>
> will it give clear sound? no hissing in the background
<br\>
<br\>The noise isn't bad on mine, but the audio mod is pretty easy to do
<br\>and has better high-end response.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i know this is kind of a dumb question, but, in light of the fact that
<br\>i hate the keyboard overlay and its tiny keys, i was wondering if anyone
<br\>had any idea how to wire up any other type of keyboard for using cynth
<br\>cart. i'm thinking hardware hack, not a midi keyboard. any thoughts?
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Right, so will it ever have both, the socket and cart shell?
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Paul Slocum
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:57 AM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: about the cynthcart
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   > on atariage, theres options about having it without cart or socket,
<br\>   > what socket are we talking about? and will there ever be a way it'll
<br\>   > have both?
<br\>
<br\>   A socket for the EPROM.  Without a socket the EPROM will be soldered
<br\>   directly to the board, and will need to be desoldered to be upgraded.
<br\>   With a socket the EPROM can just be pryed off with a screwdriver.
<br\>
<br\>   -paul
<br\>
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<br\>
can u give me a link to the audio mod, im not sure what it is
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Paul Slocum
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 3:05 AM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: i thinking about getting a video demodulator for the
<br\>atari 2600
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   > will it give clear sound? no hissing in the background
<br\>
<br\>   The noise isn't bad on mine, but the audio mod is pretty easy to do
<br\>   and has better high-end response.
<br\>
<br\>   -paul
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<br\>
>Right, so will it ever have both, the socket and cart shell?
<br\>
<br\>No, probably not -- a socketed EPROM is tall enough that it's flush with
<br\>the top of the case.  It would take an awkwardly designed case or board for
<br\>that to work.  But it's pretty easy to cut an EPROM-sized hole in the case
<br\>if you have a drill and wire cutters.  Takes probably 5 minutes.  Don't
<br\>have a picture of a cut C64 cart, but it's basically the same thing as this:
<br\>
<br\>http://roger.kaywa.ch/files/images/2005/4/240/mob688_1113004772.jpg
<br\>
<br\>There are links to some audio mods on the Synthcart FAQ.
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/synth.html
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Paul, seeing as how the SID Symphony Cartridge is next to impossible
<br\>to find these days can you post some links to some of the "dual SID"
<br\>development sites you mentioned in an earlier post.
<br\>
<br\>I have also heard there is a way to stack another SID on top of your
<br\>existing C64 SID chip. Does someone have instructions or a link on how
<br\>to do this?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks in advance!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Paul, seeing as how the SID Symphony Cartridge is next to impossible
<br\>>to find these days can you post some links to some of the "dual SID"
<br\>>development sites you mentioned in an earlier post.
<br\>
<br\>Took me a while to find it again, I just emailed the guy about it.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.volny.cz/dundera/devices.html
<br\>
<br\>Here's instructions on how to add a second SID.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.funet.fi/pub/cbm/documents/projects/other/Second-SID.txt
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
im not good at soldering, infact, i can't even do electrician stuff. I'll pay
<br\>anyone to do one for me, name ya price
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: ACEyBOX
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:18 AM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: i thinking about getting a video demodulator for
<br\>the atari 2600
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   can u give me a link to the audio mod, im not sure what it is
<br\>     ----- Original Message -----
<br\>     From: Paul Slocum
<br\>     To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>     Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 3:05 AM
<br\>     Subject: [synthcart] Re: i thinking about getting a video demodulator for
<br\>the atari 2600
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>     > will it give clear sound? no hissing in the background
<br\>
<br\>     The noise isn't bad on mine, but the audio mod is pretty easy to do
<br\>     and has better high-end response.
<br\>
<br\>     -paul
<br\>
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<br\>
Anyone know where to find Mark Dickenson's STEREO SID PLAYER for
<br\>testing Dual Sid configurations on a C64?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
OK, I found STEREO SID PLAYER 10.3 on:
<br\>
<br\>ftp://arnold.c64.org/pub/sidmusic/C64Players/
<br\>
<br\>STRPLAY.ZIP contains a D64 image. Now I need to figure out the best
<br\>way to get it over to the commodore 64.
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "austingecko" <richard@r...> wrote:
<br\>> Anyone know where to find Mark Dickenson's STEREO SID PLAYER for
<br\>> testing Dual Sid configurations on a C64?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've finished the first release version of the cynthcart.  Still a
<br\>lot more features that I want to add, but that's why we're making it
<br\>easy to upgrade.  I fixed a lot of problems with the original one,
<br\>like the portamento being way too slow at higher octaves.  And I've
<br\>added some necessary stuff like tuning and LFO controls.
<br\>
<br\>I've posted it on the cynthcart page so you can try it out in an
<br\>emulator.  And I found out that VICE emulates stereo SIDs really
<br\>well, so you can check that out too.
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/cynthcart.html
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey
<br\>
<br\>Great update! The LFO and tuning features are great... should be fun
<br\>with synthcart. Also the program now works with mmc64!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> I've finished the first release version of the cynthcart.  Still a
<br\>> lot more features that I want to add, but that's why we're making it
<br\>> easy to upgrade.  I fixed a lot of problems with the original one,
<br\>> like the portamento being way too slow at higher octaves.  And I've
<br\>> added some necessary stuff like tuning and LFO controls.
<br\>>
<br\>> I've posted it on the cynthcart page so you can try it out in an
<br\>> emulator.  And I found out that VICE emulates stereo SIDs really
<br\>> well, so you can check that out too.
<br\>>
<br\>> http://qotile.net/cynthcart.html
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
GREAT STUFF!!! Is this the version that will be shipping on the first
<br\>gen ordered carts from Atari Age?
<br\>
<br\>Rock on!
<br\>Chvad
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> I've finished the first release version of the cynthcart.  Still a
<br\>> lot more features that I want to add, but that's why we're making it
<br\>> easy to upgrade.  I fixed a lot of problems with the original one,
<br\>> like the portamento being way too slow at higher octaves.  And I've
<br\>> added some necessary stuff like tuning and LFO controls.
<br\>>
<br\>> I've posted it on the cynthcart page so you can try it out in an
<br\>> emulator.  And I found out that VICE emulates stereo SIDs really
<br\>> well, so you can check that out too.
<br\>>
<br\>> http://qotile.net/cynthcart.html
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:12 AM, chvad_sb wrote:
<br\>> GREAT STUFF!!! Is this the version that will be shipping on the first
<br\>> gen ordered carts from Atari Age?
<br\>
<br\>Yes.  :)
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>____________________________________________
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<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>
<br\>> Rock on!
<br\>> Chvad
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>> I've finished the first release version of the cynthcart.  Still a
<br\>>> lot more features that I want to add, but that's why we're making it
<br\>>> easy to upgrade.  I fixed a lot of problems with the original one,
<br\>>> like the portamento being way too slow at higher octaves.  And I've
<br\>>> added some necessary stuff like tuning and LFO controls.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> I've posted it on the cynthcart page so you can try it out in an
<br\>>> emulator.  And I found out that VICE emulates stereo SIDs really
<br\>>> well, so you can check that out too.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> http://qotile.net/cynthcart.html
<br\>>>
<br\>>> -paul
<br\>>>
<br\>>
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i aint got paddle controllers. Will you be selling the paddle
<br\>controllers? or are you alreadly seiling them?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Yes.  :)
<br\>
<br\>...unless anybody finds any bugs in the next day or two.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Yes.  :)
<br\>>
<br\>> ...unless anybody finds any bugs in the next day or two.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>i ran it though all its functions and it seems to work well. Fixed
<br\>filter settings are RAD, hold a note and when you start changing them
<br\>it will sustain for a cool sample and hold type effect. The only thing
<br\>I dont like is how slow the whammy thing seems to work. Also is there
<br\>any difference beween the video modes? Any way of getting the text
<br\>removed for light show action?
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>The only thing
<br\>>I dont like is how slow the whammy thing seems to work.
<br\>
<br\>I'll add whammy speed control to the todo list.
<br\>
<br\>>Also is there
<br\>>any difference beween the video modes?
<br\>
<br\>The patterns are just different.  I'm planning on doing more complex
<br\>modes later on.
<br\>
<br\>>  Any way of getting the text
<br\>>removed for light show action?
<br\>
<br\>Not yet, you'll have to use black tape for now.  But that's on the list.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
On my commie, it seems the notes are stuck playing at a extremely low
<br\>volume after the chord is played... if you play alot it becomes a big
<br\>mess, like playing a delay pedal set to infiinte feedback. Its pretty
<br\>quiet, and can be easily gated, but is it a problem with the program,
<br\>or with my sid? Sid files paly fne, but I see the same issue using
<br\>retroskoi.
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>On my commie, it seems the notes are stuck playing at a extremely low
<br\>>volume after the chord is played... if you play alot it becomes a big
<br\>>mess, like playing a delay pedal set to infiinte feedback. Its pretty
<br\>>quiet, and can be easily gated, but is it a problem with the program,
<br\>>or with my sid? Sid files paly fne, but I see the same issue using
<br\>>retroskoi.
<br\>
<br\>It's a feature of the SID.  The envelope doesn't seem to cut the volume all
<br\>the way off.  I plan to program a software noise gate in the future, which
<br\>will also eliminate other background noise from the system.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
with a second SID chip piggybacked on, can you get 6 note polyphony as
<br\>well as the stereo chorus?  i dont mean simultaneously... i mean is 6
<br\>note polyphony possible with the second chip.
<br\>
<br\>and i was also wondering if paul had installed the second chip on his
<br\>own C64?
<br\>
<br\>thanks,
<br\>thomas
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
sorry! and also is there anyone here on the board who can install a
<br\>second chip for money?
<br\>
<br\>thanks,
<br\>thomas
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>The second chip is just three voices, and you will hear a chorus
<br\>effect. These guys are workinbg on a stereo sid board, which should be
<br\>user installable w/o soldering:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.volny.cz/dundera/devices.html
<br\>
<br\>if eneoguh people bug them maybe development will speed up :D
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>> sorry! and also is there anyone here on the board who can install a
<br\>> second chip for money?
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks,
<br\>> thomas
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>The second chip is just three voices, and you will hear a chorus
<br\>>effect.
<br\>
<br\>It's wouldn't be difficult to create a 6 voice mode though.  Or a 2-SID
<br\>echo mode.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> It's a feature of the SID.  The envelope doesn't seem to cut the
<br\>volume all
<br\>> the way off.  I plan to program a software noise gate in the future,
<br\>which
<br\>> will also eliminate other background noise from the system.
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>Sounds cool.. Do you use any external gating live, or do you find the
<br\>noise buries iteself in the mix?
<br\>
<br\>>It's wouldn't be difficult to create a 6 voice mode though. Or a 2-SID
<br\>>echo mode.
<br\>
<br\>I like this too, also a multi unison mode would be cool (set one to
<br\>key to use 1-6 voices per note with detuning).
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Sounds cool.. Do you use any external gating live, or do you find the
<br\>>noise buries iteself in the mix?
<br\>
<br\>The noise buries itself, but I use a gate to cut the noise between
<br\>songs.  There are a couple of relays hooked up to the Atari and
<br\>automatically cut all the sound off when the 2600 sequencer is
<br\>stopped.  I used to use a noise gate pedal, but I found that the
<br\>relays are easier, better, and cheaper.
<br\>
<br\>This is also how we do the first song with the hacker-style demo and
<br\>the choppy sound.  The relays are programmed to cut on and off in
<br\>rhythm during that song.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Subject:
what cables will i need to plug the c64 into an amp?

SubjectSrt:
what cables will i need to plug the c64 into an amp?

Message:
<br\>
hi, my cynthcart is in the mail and so is the C64 itself, so i was
<br\>wondering how to hook it up to a tv or amp or whatnot, so i can any
<br\>cables or adaptors now if i'm going to need them.
<br\>
<br\>thanks!
<br\>thomas
<br\>


Subject:
Re: what cables will i need to plug the c64 into an amp?

Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>> hi, my cynthcart is in the mail and so is the C64 itself, so i was
<br\>> wondering how to hook it up to a tv or amp or whatnot, so i can any
<br\>> cables or adaptors now if i'm going to need them.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Probaly the simplest is the commodore video cable. This usually
<br\>terminates in rca jacks, so you'll need a 1/4" male to RCA Male
<br\>adaptor and you can jack right in to the amp. If you have solder
<br\>skill, you can cut the RCA head off and solder directly in the 1/4"
<br\>head for a little less chance of interfe.
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I was just wondering what everyone here would like to see added to the
<br\>future versions of cynthcart.
<br\>already mentioned:
<br\>
<br\>Whammy speed control
<br\>removing text from video mode
<br\>more extreme variations in video mode
<br\>software gating of lingering notes
<br\>
<br\>i hoping for:
<br\>ring modulation
<br\>6 voice polyphony with 2 SIDS
<br\>maybe some use for a second paddle or joystick?
<br\>
<br\>i'm curious to see what everyone else wants.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>> hi, my cynthcart is in the mail and so is the C64 itself, so i was
<br\>> wondering how to hook it up to a tv or amp or whatnot, so i can any
<br\>> cables or adaptors now if i'm going to need them.
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks!
<br\>> thomas
<br\>
<br\>...if you're not into building cables (like me) you might want to
<br\>check out:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.64hdd.com/shop/shop-ccae.html
<br\>
<br\>and look for the "CD-Audio Cable with A/V out" down the bottom - has
<br\>an input as well!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> > thanks!
<br\>> > thomas
<br\>>
<br\>> ...if you're not into building cables (like me) you might want to
<br\>> check out:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.64hdd.com/shop/shop-ccae.html
<br\>>
<br\>> and look for the "CD-Audio Cable with A/V out" down the bottom - has
<br\>> an input as well!
<br\>
<br\>That will still require a 1/8th inch to 1/4 inch male to male adaptor
<br\>to hook up to his amp, unless you have a practice amp that lets you
<br\>hookup a tape input to "jam along" with
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Wishlist for future cynthcart additions

Message:
<br\>
> Whammy speed control
<br\>> removing text from video mode
<br\>> more extreme variations in video mode
<br\>> software gating of lingering notes
<br\>>
<br\>> i hoping for:
<br\>> ring modulation
<br\>> 6 voice polyphony with 2 SIDS
<br\>> maybe some use for a second paddle or joystick?
<br\>>
<br\>> i'm curious to see what everyone else wants.
<br\>
<br\>I think the second paddle would be useful for modulatioon speed of the
<br\>lfo. Arpeggio mode?
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel O'Shea" <dan@o...> wrote:
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>> > hi, my cynthcart is in the mail and so is the C64 itself, so i was
<br\>> > wondering how to hook it up to a tv or amp or whatnot, so i can any
<br\>> > cables or adaptors now if i'm going to need them.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > thanks!
<br\>> > thomas
<br\>>
<br\>> ...if you're not into building cables (like me) you might want to
<br\>> check out:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.64hdd.com/shop/shop-ccae.html
<br\>>
<br\>> and look for the "CD-Audio Cable with A/V out" down the bottom - has
<br\>> an input as well!
<br\>
<br\>an input... does that mean you can process external sound through the
<br\>sids filter section?  or what?
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: what cables will i need to plug the c64 into an amp?

Message:
<br\>
>an input... does that mean you can process external sound through the
<br\>>sids filter section?  or what?
<br\>
<br\>yes
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >an input... does that mean you can process external sound through the
<br\>> >sids filter section?  or what?
<br\>>
<br\>> yes
<br\>
<br\>thats cool... does the filter affect the cynthcart and the incoming
<br\>sound simultaneously or does input override it?  does the paddle
<br\>control still affect the filter when theres an incoming signal?
<br\>
<br\>and do you need the cord, or does the c64 have a stock input?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>thanks!
<br\>thomas
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> > yes
<br\>>
<br\>> thats cool... does the filter affect the cynthcart and the incoming
<br\>> sound simultaneously or does input override it?  does the paddle
<br\>> control still affect the filter when theres an incoming signal?
<br\>
<br\>I thought that cynthcart doesn't support external filtering, but a
<br\>program like prophet64 does.
<br\>>
<br\>> and do you need the cord, or does the c64 have a stock input?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>The c64 has a 5 din (midi cable) like output. Thre of the pin are for
<br\>composite video.s-video, one is for sid output and one is for sid
<br\>input. Youd want to be careful not to send too hot a signal through
<br\>the sid cause you may damage it. Any commodore video cable should
<br\>support audio in, as long as it has five outputs. Here is a pinout of
<br\>the port
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://pinouts.ru/data/AudioVideoC64_pinout.shtml
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I thought that cynthcart doesn't support external filtering, but a
<br\>>program like prophet64 does.
<br\>
<br\>It just depends on the external filter bit being set, which I think
<br\>it is but I'll have to check the source.
<br\>
<br\>The SID is very sensitive to input overloads and it's easy to blow
<br\>the chip that way, which is why I haven't messed with external
<br\>filtering.  That input cable has diode protection which maybe makes
<br\>it a little safer.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>It just depends on the external filter bit being set, which I think
<br\>>it is but I'll have to check the source.
<br\>
<br\>yeah, looks like the external filter bit is set.  Anybody have a Cynthcart
<br\>+ C64 setup with an external input to verify this?
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> yeah, looks like the external filter bit is set.  Anybody have a
<br\>Cynthcart
<br\>> + C64 setup with an external input to verify this?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I do, but it will have to wait until the weekend (maybe) for me to
<br\>test it. My chiprock band is playing a show on Saturday in Brooklyn,
<br\>so testing might be at a minimum. Is the diode just to protect hot
<br\>signals, do you think I can simply run a quiet line level signal
<br\>through it without worry?
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Subject:
Does someone know where i can get a modified atari

SubjectSrt:
Does someone know where i can get a modified atari

Message:
<br\>
im not an electrician i dont deal with electrics, the tutorials baffle
<br\>me even worse and i know if i tried it, i'll muck it up.And Paul
<br\>already told me that it being modified would give better crisp sound
<br\>quality than using a video demodulater So does anyone know where i can
<br\>get mine modified or anything at all where i can buy a modified one?
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Does someone know where i can get a modified atari

Message:
<br\>
Greetings,
<br\>
<br\>Yes, 8bitDomain sells A/V Upgrade Boards for a variety of systems,
<br\>including the 2600.  I have two of his systems and they are great!
<br\>He actually modified the systems for me--they have two new jacks on
<br\>the back--one is for stereo audio out (mini-stereo headphone-style
<br\>jack) and another with video output.  No more fiddling with a poor RF
<br\>signal!  The website is here:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.8bitdomain.com/
<br\>
<br\>I don't know if he sells modified systems, but you can certainly ask
<br\>him.  And his mods are easy to install if you're not afraid to do it
<br\>yourself (I also have some of his mods for the 5200).  Please tell
<br\>him Albert at AtariAge sent you (no, I'm not getting a kickback!)  :)
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On Aug 31, 2005, at 5:16 PM, aceybox wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> im not an electrician i dont deal with electrics, the tutorials baffle
<br\>> me even worse and i know if i tried it, i'll muck it up.And Paul
<br\>> already told me that it being modified would give better crisp sound
<br\>> quality than using a video demodulater So does anyone know where i can
<br\>> get mine modified or anything at all where i can buy a modified one?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
>I don't know if he sells modified systems, but you can certainly ask
<br\>>him.  And his mods are easy to install if you're not afraid to do it
<br\>>yourself (I also have some of his mods for the 5200).  Please tell
<br\>>him Albert at AtariAge sent you (no, I'm not getting a kickback!)  :)
<br\>
<br\>Those are pretty cheap, might have to spring for one (or two).  How
<br\>does the installation compare to the Cybertech?
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
They are pretty simple to install, you unplug the TIA, plus the TIA
<br\>into this board and then plug the board into the TIA socket.  You
<br\>then plug a connector onto the end of the board that has wires for
<br\>the various outputs.  You then install the connectors on your 2600
<br\>case (you'll need to drill holes) and hook them up.  Very easy.  :)
<br\>You can download the installation manual here (this is for a six-
<br\>switch, he also has mods for 4-switch and Juniors as well):
<br\>
<br\>http://www.8bitdomain.com/about2600_6.php
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Aug 31, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>> I don't know if he sells modified systems, but you can certainly ask
<br\>>> him.  And his mods are easy to install if you're not afraid to do it
<br\>>> yourself (I also have some of his mods for the 5200).  Please tell
<br\>>> him Albert at AtariAge sent you (no, I'm not getting a kickback!)  :)
<br\>>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Those are pretty cheap, might have to spring for one (or two).  How
<br\>> does the installation compare to the Cybertech?
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
That should be, "plug the TIA into this board"...
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On Aug 31, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Albert Yarusso wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> They are pretty simple to install, you unplug the TIA, plus the TIA
<br\>> into this board and then plug the board into the TIA socket.  You
<br\>> then plug a connector onto the end of the board that has wires for
<br\>> the various outputs.  You then install the connectors on your 2600
<br\>> case (you'll need to drill holes) and hook them up.  Very easy.  :)
<br\>> You can download the installation manual here (this is for a six-
<br\>> switch, he also has mods for 4-switch and Juniors as well):
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.8bitdomain.com/about2600_6.php
<br\>>
<br\>>   ..Al
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On Aug 31, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>> I don't know if he sells modified systems, but you can certainly ask
<br\>>>> him.  And his mods are easy to install if you're not afraid to do it
<br\>>>> yourself (I also have some of his mods for the 5200).  Please tell
<br\>>>> him Albert at AtariAge sent you (no, I'm not getting a
<br\>>>> kickback!)  :)
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Those are pretty cheap, might have to spring for one (or two).  How
<br\>>> does the installation compare to the Cybertech?
<br\>>>
<br\>>> -paul
<br\>>>
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Message:
<br\>
on the prophet 64 site, they claim that the later model 8580 sounds
<br\>better than the 6581, and that later model chips of both types have
<br\>better sounding filters.  They also say its not a good idea to move
<br\>SIDs around from different year commodores.
<br\>
<br\>my question is, do you guys hear a difference? and if so which do you
<br\>prefer?
<br\>
<br\>is it true that its bad to move a newer SID to an older commodore?
<br\>and did they make the old style 64 with the newer SIDs or did they
<br\>just come out on the 128 and the 128ish looking 64?
<br\>
<br\>thanks!
<br\>thomas
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>my question is, do you guys hear a difference? and if so which do you
<br\>>prefer?
<br\>
<br\>The filters a definitely a little different.  I have a slight
<br\>preference for the later one.  It's not quite as crazy sounding and a
<br\>little less noisy.
<br\>
<br\>>is it true that its bad to move a newer SID to an older commodore?
<br\>>and did they make the old style 64 with the newer SIDs or did they
<br\>>just come out on the 128 and the 128ish looking 64?
<br\>
<br\>The old and new SID require different voltages.
<br\>
<br\>Check out the wikipedia article:
<br\>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_SID
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >my question is, do you guys hear a difference? and if so which do you
<br\>> >prefer?
<br\>>
<br\>> The filters a definitely a little different.  I have a slight
<br\>> preference for the later one.  It's not quite as crazy sounding and a
<br\>> little less noisy.
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>so, did the newer SIDs ship with some of the old style c64 computers?
<br\>  the ones that fit the keyboard overlay?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>so, did the newer SIDs ship with some of the old style c64 computers?
<br\>>  the ones that fit the keyboard overlay?
<br\>
<br\>I don't think so, but the overlay works with the 64C fine with a
<br\>little duct tape to hold it in place.  Normally we play live with one
<br\>original and one 64C.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://cgi.ebay.com/MIDI-keyboard-piano-Commodore-49-keys-PC-software-incl_W0QQi\
<br\>temZ7345772230QQcategoryZ20080QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Was checking out keyboard overlays and saw this. Looks cool even if it
<br\>has nothing to do with the sid...
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>Was checking out keyboard overlays and saw this. Looks cool even if it
<br\>>has nothing to do with the sid...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     You're right about it being kinda cool.  In the UK I think that
<br\>there's a ton of Commodore branded PC stuff that never made it here to
<br\>the states.  Commodore did a lot of PC clones in the UK as I recall -
<br\>much more than in the US.
<br\>
<br\>     I'd think that this keyboard was even cooler if they'd followed the
<br\>Commodore 64 aesthetic; grayish body, white keys with brown sharps and
<br\>flats...  :)
<br\>
<br\>     I've got one of these setups that can do six voices:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/hardware/ecs_tech.html
<br\>
<br\>     I know that it'll never happen, but I wish that someone would
<br\>homebrew a Synthcart type thing for it...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yo!
<br\>Receptors podcast at Roanoke Times,interview/tracks all about 8-bit,
<br\>name dropping and talkin shit about Synthcart, gameboys, etc
<br\>
<br\>http://roanoke.com/entertainment/insideout/podcasts/30577.html
<br\>
<br\>thanks
<br\>
<br\>kslime
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://www.receptorsmusic.com
<br\>[8-bit futurist elctro-funk space-punk]
<br\>http://www.receptorsmusic.com/news.html
<br\>[upcoming 8-Bit Kraftwerk covers comp]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>
<br\>>     I've got one of these setups that can do six voices:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/hardware/ecs_tech.html
<br\>>
<br\>>     I know that it'll never happen, but I wish that someone would
<br\>> homebrew a Synthcart type thing for it...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Yea it woiuld be cool, but how many of these units actually made it
<br\>into the wild (and are still around)
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
sigh!
<br\>the seller on ebay used another picture of a different(nicer) c64 in
<br\>the auction and didn't mention it.  so mine arrived with a loose
<br\>fitting casing and a shattered left corner(held in by the screw there).
<br\>
<br\>i haven't had a chance to see if it works yet, but i opened it up
<br\>because i heard a rattle inside.  didnt find the rattle but i did see
<br\>an 8580R5 SID... and i thought that shouldnt be in an old-style c64
<br\>like mine?
<br\>
<br\>anyway i hope it will work.  the red and white cables are video, and
<br\>yellow is audio right?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>>    I've got one of these setups that can do six voices:
<br\>>>
<br\>>>http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/hardware/ecs_tech.html
<br\>>>
<br\>>>    I know that it'll never happen, but I wish that someone would
<br\>>>homebrew a Synthcart type thing for it...
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>Yea it woiuld be cool, but how many of these units actually made it
<br\>>into the wild (and are still around)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     Yup.  that's why I know that all I'll ever do is play Melody Blaster
<br\>on it.  :)
<br\>
<br\>     Seriously it wasn't all that pricey for me to put the setup together
<br\>on Ebay/thrifts, and it's a nice six voice synth.  You can't modify the
<br\>basic sine wave (though I think that I could program in a different
<br\>sound, but there's no way to save those programs), but it sounds great
<br\>running through effects pedals.  And c'mon... can you beat that
<br\>Intellivision styling?  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
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<br\>
>
<br\>> i haven't had a chance to see if it works yet, but i opened it up
<br\>> because i heard a rattle inside.  didnt find the rattle but i did see
<br\>> an 8580R5 SID... and i thought that shouldnt be in an old-style c64
<br\>> like mine?
<br\>
<br\>  hey if it works... :?
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> anyway i hope it will work.  the red and white cables are video, and
<br\>> yellow is audio right?
<br\>
<br\>Yellow is probaly video, red white are probaly audio in and out
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


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<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>> anyway i hope it will work.  the red and white cables are video, and
<br\>> yellow is audio right?
<br\>
<br\>Red and Yellow are video (chroma and luma) which need to be combined
<br\>with a RCA splitter (Y cable) for standard RCA video input.
<br\>
<br\>White is Audio out.
<br\>
<br\>Enjoy :)
<br\>


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<br\>
Hello,
<br\>
<br\>Ive noticed that the memory backup from the atarivox has become it's
<br\>own product
<br\>
<br\>http://www.vectrex.biz/MemCard.htm
<br\>
<br\>Will loopcart require anything other than this to save songs? Seems a
<br\>good deal.
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Wow!  $13?  That's really cheap.  ya, that's all you need to save.
<br\>
<br\>I need to get back to work on that thing.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i got the sound working but on both tvs i tried it on, the
<br\>picture/text is badly skewed to the left and constantly scrolling
<br\>vertically.  When video mode is on, it fires, but in the same skewed,
<br\>not-so- good-looking way.  The sound seems to work fine and its really
<br\>really cool.  Obviously not a cart problem, but could it be a bad
<br\>cord, or is it just a bad commodore?
<br\>
<br\>thanks,
<br\>thomas
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I got a c64 disk drive and printer with my commodore auction and i'm
<br\>not going to need either one.  anyone here can have them for the price
<br\>of shipping, or pickup if youre in atlanta, or trade them for a spare
<br\>paddle controller.  I know these arent the most desireable items on
<br\>the market but i thought i would throw this out in case anyone wanted
<br\>them.
<br\>


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<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> Wow!  $13?  That's really cheap.  ya, that's all you need to save.
<br\>>
<br\>> I need to get back to work on that thing.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>Yea im gonna buy one in case he decides to stop making them..
<br\>
<br\>How much work is needed to be done?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


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<br\>
>How much work is needed to be done?
<br\>
<br\>It's probably 75% done.  Not a whole lot of work left, but I've got a
<br\>lot of other commitments at the moment.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i want to buy an EPROM programmer. Does anyone know what kind of chips
<br\>are in atari carts? Can anyone recommend a good programmer in the $50
<br\>neighborhood?
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
so that involves no soldering
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Albert Yarusso
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:42 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Does someone know where i can get a modified atari
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   They are pretty simple to install, you unplug the TIA, plus the TIA
<br\>   into this board and then plug the board into the TIA socket.  You
<br\>   then plug a connector onto the end of the board that has wires for
<br\>   the various outputs.  You then install the connectors on your 2600
<br\>   case (you'll need to drill holes) and hook them up.  Very easy.  :)
<br\>   You can download the installation manual here (this is for a six-
<br\>   switch, he also has mods for 4-switch and Juniors as well):
<br\>
<br\>   http://www.8bitdomain.com/about2600_6.php
<br\>
<br\>     ..Al
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   On Aug 31, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >> I don't know if he sells modified systems, but you can certainly ask
<br\>   >> him.  And his mods are easy to install if you're not afraid to do it
<br\>   >> yourself (I also have some of his mods for the 5200).  Please tell
<br\>   >> him Albert at AtariAge sent you (no, I'm not getting a kickback!)  :)
<br\>   >>
<br\>   >
<br\>   > Those are pretty cheap, might have to spring for one (or two).  How
<br\>   > does the installation compare to the Cybertech?
<br\>   >
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Hello,
<br\>All you need to do is drill holes for the jacks. It appears to use tie
<br\>down posts for the audio connectors.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "ACEyBOX" <ace@a...> wrote:
<br\>> so that involves no soldering
<br\>>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>>   From: Albert Yarusso
<br\>>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>   Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:42 PM
<br\>>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Does someone know where i can get a
<br\>modified atari
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   They are pretty simple to install, you unplug the TIA, plus the TIA
<br\>>   into this board and then plug the board into the TIA socket.  You
<br\>>   then plug a connector onto the end of the board that has wires for
<br\>>   the various outputs.  You then install the connectors on your 2600
<br\>>   case (you'll need to drill holes) and hook them up.  Very easy.  :)
<br\>>   You can download the installation manual here (this is for a six-
<br\>>   switch, he also has mods for 4-switch and Juniors as well):
<br\>>
<br\>>   http://www.8bitdomain.com/about2600_6.php
<br\>>
<br\>>     ..Al
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   On Aug 31, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   >> I don't know if he sells modified systems, but you can
<br\>certainly ask
<br\>>   >> him.  And his mods are easy to install if you're not afraid to
<br\>do it
<br\>>   >> yourself (I also have some of his mods for the 5200).  Please tell
<br\>>   >> him Albert at AtariAge sent you (no, I'm not getting a
<br\>kickback!)  :)
<br\>>   >>
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   > Those are pretty cheap, might have to spring for one (or two).  How
<br\>>   > does the installation compare to the Cybertech?
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   > -paul
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Re: Re: Does someone know where i can get a modified atari

Message:
<br\>
lol, I no i'll muck it up, i really wished it could be done for me or someone
<br\>sells it. Ill pay anything
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 2:10 AM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: Does someone know where i can get a modified atari
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Hello,
<br\>   All you need to do is drill holes for the jacks. It appears to use tie
<br\>   down posts for the audio connectors.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "ACEyBOX" <ace@a...> wrote:
<br\>   > so that involves no soldering
<br\>   >   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   >   From: Albert Yarusso
<br\>   >   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   >   Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:42 PM
<br\>   >   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Does someone know where i can get a
<br\>   modified atari
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   They are pretty simple to install, you unplug the TIA, plus the TIA
<br\>   >   into this board and then plug the board into the TIA socket.  You
<br\>   >   then plug a connector onto the end of the board that has wires for
<br\>   >   the various outputs.  You then install the connectors on your 2600
<br\>   >   case (you'll need to drill holes) and hook them up.  Very easy.  :)
<br\>   >   You can download the installation manual here (this is for a six-
<br\>   >   switch, he also has mods for 4-switch and Juniors as well):
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   http://www.8bitdomain.com/about2600_6.php
<br\>   >
<br\>   >     ..Al
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   On Aug 31, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   >> I don't know if he sells modified systems, but you can
<br\>   certainly ask
<br\>   >   >> him.  And his mods are easy to install if you're not afraid to
<br\>   do it
<br\>   >   >> yourself (I also have some of his mods for the 5200).  Please tell
<br\>   >   >> him Albert at AtariAge sent you (no, I'm not getting a
<br\>   kickback!)  :)
<br\>   >   >>
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   > Those are pretty cheap, might have to spring for one (or two).  How
<br\>   >   > does the installation compare to the Cybertech?
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<br\>
my commodore has a really, really bright blue LED.  I love it!  But
<br\>all the ones i've seen online have been red, and mine seems a little
<br\>bright for a home computer.  was this a stock feature, or has it been
<br\>added by someone?
<br\>
<br\>my commodore also has the 8580R5 sid, and its one of the older models.
<br\>  odd...
<br\>


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<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that blue LEDs tend to be
<br\>(relatively) more expensive, so its probaly an aftermarket mod.
<br\>
<br\>The sid replacement is a sign as well.
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>> my commodore has a really, really bright blue LED.  I love it!  But
<br\>> all the ones i've seen online have been red, and mine seems a little
<br\>> bright for a home computer.  was this a stock feature, or has it been
<br\>> added by someone?
<br\>>
<br\>> my commodore also has the 8580R5 sid, and its one of the older models.
<br\>>  odd...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I don't think blue LEDs even existed when the Commodore 64 came out,
<br\>and it definitely wasn't standard equipment back then.  Adding blue
<br\>LEDs to old game consoles and computers is a pretty popular mod, so
<br\>someone else definitely swapped the red LED for a blue LED after the
<br\>fact.
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On Sep 6, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>>
<br\>> Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that blue LEDs tend to be
<br\>> (relatively) more expensive, so its probaly an aftermarket mod.
<br\>>
<br\>> The sid replacement is a sign as well.
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>> my commodore has a really, really bright blue LED.  I love it!  But
<br\>>> all the ones i've seen online have been red, and mine seems a little
<br\>>> bright for a home computer.  was this a stock feature, or has it been
<br\>>> added by someone?
<br\>>>
<br\>>> my commodore also has the 8580R5 sid, and its one of the older
<br\>>> models.
<br\>>>  odd...
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that makes sense then.  But as for the SID, i thought the voltages
<br\>were different... that 6581 SIDs were not interchangeable with 8580s
<br\>at all?
<br\>
<br\>mine works, so no complaints, but it is kind of curious.
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>>
<br\>> Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that blue LEDs tend to be
<br\>> (relatively) more expensive, so its probaly an aftermarket mod.
<br\>>
<br\>> The sid replacement is a sign as well.
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>> > my commodore has a really, really bright blue LED.  I love it!  But
<br\>> > all the ones i've seen online have been red, and mine seems a little
<br\>> > bright for a home computer.  was this a stock feature, or has it been
<br\>> > added by someone?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > my commodore also has the 8580R5 sid, and its one of the older models.
<br\>> >  odd...
<br\>


Subject:
Cynthcart sound seems too low on my C64...

SubjectSrt:
Cynthcart sound seems too low on my C64...

Message:
<br\>
Paul, just got my MMC64 in yesterday and finally was able to transfer
<br\>your Cynthcart program over to my C64. I really love the program! My
<br\>initial reaction though was that the volume seemed way too low. I
<br\>tried all three volume settings and the highest volume was about 50%
<br\>loud as compared to various SID files I played off the MMC64
<br\>cartridge.
<br\>
<br\>Is there a way to punch up the volume so that I can get it louder? My
<br\>SID chip is the 8580R5 version but like I said SID file playback seems
<br\>about 50% louder than what I'm hearing out of the Cynthcart. Also, a
<br\>few of the patches seemed to reset the volume at the midway point as
<br\>where others left the volume to whatever was set prior to changing the
<br\>patch.
<br\>
<br\>Don't have any paddles as of yet but I'm trying to get my hands on
<br\>some as well as the Musical Keyboard overlay. Thanks and I look
<br\>forward to your reply.
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<br\>
Yeah, like that ultra time-sensitive stop-motion webpage!  ;)
<br\>
<br\>Tee hee.
<br\>
<br\>-B
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >How much work is needed to be done?
<br\>>
<br\>> It's probably 75% done.  Not a whole lot of work left, but I've got a
<br\>> lot of other commitments at the moment.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


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<br\>
>Yeah, like that ultra time-sensitive stop-motion webpage!  ;)
<br\>
<br\>Believe it or not, I do actually have a deadline for that in
<br\>November.  And that project is turning out to be incredibly time
<br\>consuming.  Main problem is how to show it, which I still haven't figured out.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
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Subject:
Re: Cynthcart sound seems too low on my C64...

Message:
<br\>
>Is there a way to punch up the volume so that I can get it louder? My
<br\>>SID chip is the 8580R5 version but like I said SID file playback seems
<br\>>about 50% louder than what I'm hearing out of the Cynthcart. Also, a
<br\>>few of the patches seemed to reset the volume at the midway point as
<br\>>where others left the volume to whatever was set prior to changing the
<br\>>patch.
<br\>
<br\>Putting the Cynthcart at full volume (= key) is full volume on the
<br\>SID.  Some of my patches automatically set the volume lower than full
<br\>volume to try to equalize their volume relative to the other
<br\>sounds.  The triangle waveform tends to be the quietest, so I set
<br\>those patches to the max volume and lowered the others relative to
<br\>that.  I did this a while back because I was always having to mess
<br\>with the volume when we played live.
<br\>
<br\>I'm not sure why SIDs seem louder, but it may just be because a lot
<br\>of SIDs use unison, special filter settings, and higher octaves than
<br\>the default Cynthcart settings.  They also use pulse a lot which
<br\>seems to be the loudest.  The Cynthcart can get pretty loud with
<br\>certain filter settings and higher octaves on the pulse
<br\>patches.  I'll check it out though.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


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<br\>
Ah, you don't have to explain yourself to us!  I was just busting your
<br\>chops... plus, I don't want to sound like those dudes on the Atariage
<br\>forum who are ready to tar and feather you for not finishing the
<br\>Homestar RPG!  Screw those guys!
<br\>
<br\>Good luck with the web page... I'm sure it'll be kickass.
<br\>
<br\>-b
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Yeah, like that ultra time-sensitive stop-motion webpage!  ;)
<br\>>
<br\>> Believe it or not, I do actually have a deadline for that in
<br\>> November.  And that project is turning out to be incredibly time
<br\>> consuming.  Main problem is how to show it, which I still haven't
<br\>figured out.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
just curious if the keys of the c64 keyboard overlay are the same size
<br\>as any other crappy casio or something that could be gutted for keys,
<br\>then used as part of a custom built overlay.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>> just curious if the keys of the c64 keyboard overlay are the same size
<br\>> as any other crappy casio or something that could be gutted for keys,
<br\>> then used as part of a custom built overlay.
<br\>
<br\>the overlay keys are about the same size as the keys on an sk-1.
<br\>
<br\>it seems like it'd be easier to just get an overlay, though. and i say
<br\>this even though my keyboard overlay has to be held down when i play it.
<br\>especially for the highest two notes.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: making your own keyboard overlay

Message:
<br\>
>it seems like it'd be easier to just get an overlay, though. and i say
<br\>>this even though my keyboard overlay has to be held down when i play it.
<br\>>especially for the highest two notes.
<br\>
<br\>duct tape!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
how about the few of us with the portable SX64? Was there ever an
<br\>overlay for its smaller keyboard???
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Andy Tolley wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>how about the few of us with the portable SX64? Was there ever an
<br\>>overlay for its smaller keyboard???
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     I'm glad to hear that someone is going to use the SX64 with
<br\>Cynthcart.  Though I seem to remember hearing that there are some
<br\>possible noise issues with sound.  Has that turned out to me the case
<br\>for you?
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "2wm" <killradio_13@y...> wrote:
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>> > just curious if the keys of the c64 keyboard overlay are the same size
<br\>> > as any other crappy casio or something that could be gutted for keys,
<br\>> > then used as part of a custom built overlay.
<br\>>
<br\>> the overlay keys are about the same size as the keys on an sk-1.
<br\>>
<br\>> it seems like it'd be easier to just get an overlay, though. and i say
<br\>> this even though my keyboard overlay has to be held down when i play it.
<br\>> especially for the highest two notes.
<br\>>
<br\>> --2wm
<br\>yeah it wouldnt be worth an SK-1 unless it was toast already.
<br\>i plan on getting the overlay, anyway.  it has caused a little
<br\>ainxiety on my part though. of the 2 overlays on ebay, one is 75.00 in
<br\>an ebay store, and the other is in austrailia 16.00 shipping with 2
<br\>"slightly torn" and drooping black keys.  I know other ones will come
<br\>up for sale on ebay in the future but i'm impatient!!   good thing i
<br\>found out about cynthcart right as it was released i guess.. ;D
<br\>
<br\>are there any commodore classifieds where they show up with any
<br\>regularity?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>yeah it wouldnt be worth an SK-1 unless it was toast already.
<br\>>i plan on getting the overlay, anyway.  it has caused a little
<br\>>ainxiety on my part though. of the 2 overlays on ebay, one is 75.00
<br\>
<br\>I saw that, might make that guy an offer.  There's even a built-in
<br\>option to do that.  I've bought two and watched a bunch on ebay,
<br\>almost always go for about $10.
<br\>
<br\>>are there any commodore classifieds where they show up with any
<br\>>regularity?
<br\>
<br\>You could post on www.lemon64.com/forum or try contacting one of the
<br\>online retailers like www.4jays.com and see if they have any.
<br\>
<br\>Also, I'm going to SWRAP next week.  If I see any at a reasonable
<br\>price, I'll pick them up and make them available.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
In my experience, noise level from SX64 is about the same as a
<br\>standard C64. Maybe I got a good one!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>> Andy Tolley wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >how about the few of us with the portable SX64? Was there ever an
<br\>> >overlay for its smaller keyboard???
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>     I'm glad to hear that someone is going to use the SX64 with
<br\>> Cynthcart.  Though I seem to remember hearing that there are some
<br\>> possible noise issues with sound.  Has that turned out to me the case
<br\>> for you?
<br\>>
<br\>> --
<br\>>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thomas wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>I know other ones will come
<br\>>up for sale on ebay in the future but i'm impatient!!   good thing i
<br\>>found out about cynthcart right as it was released i guess.. ;D
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     Actually Ebay has them up all the time.  I've seen them for as
<br\>little as $3, and I think that it's safe to say that the average is
<br\>around $10.  Are you just looking up "keyboard overlay"?  Also try "C64
<br\>music", "commodore music", etc.  I've found it that was in the past for
<br\>really cheap.
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >yeah it wouldnt be worth an SK-1 unless it was toast already.
<br\>> >i plan on getting the overlay, anyway.  it has caused a little
<br\>> >ainxiety on my part though. of the 2 overlays on ebay, one is 75.00
<br\>>
<br\>> I saw that, might make that guy an offer.  There's even a built-in
<br\>> option to do that.  I've bought two and watched a bunch on ebay,
<br\>> almost always go for about $10.
<br\>
<br\>i offered him 15.00+6.00 shipping earlier today, maybe he'll take it.
<br\>  he also has 6 People magazines with princess Di going for 75.00,
<br\>too... lol.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> >are there any commodore classifieds where they show up with any
<br\>> >regularity?
<br\>>
<br\>> You could post on www.lemon64.com/forum or try contacting one of the
<br\>> online retailers like www.4jays.com and see if they have any.
<br\>>
<br\>> Also, I'm going to SWRAP next week.  If I see any at a reasonable
<br\>> price, I'll pick them up and make them available.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>thanks for the advice, and keep us posted if you see any!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >it seems like it'd be easier to just get an overlay, though. and i say
<br\>> >this even though my keyboard overlay has to be held down when i
<br\>play it.
<br\>> >especially for the highest two notes.
<br\>>
<br\>> duct tape!
<br\>
<br\>when i get another c-64 so i can have one solely dedicated to cynthcart=)
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Double wow!  I ordered one Sunday, Sept. 4 (friggin' 5 days ago) and
<br\>it came today!  That was fast!
<br\>
<br\>Now I just need something to save on it.... OK, I'll stop. :o
<br\>
<br\>-B
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> Wow!  $13?  That's really cheap.  ya, that's all you need to save.
<br\>>
<br\>> I need to get back to work on that thing.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "dotdUmmy" <bradyleo@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Double wow!  I ordered one Sunday, Sept. 4 (friggin' 5 days ago) and
<br\>> it came today!  That was fast!
<br\>>
<br\>> Now I just need something to save on it.... OK, I'll stop. :o
<br\>>
<br\>> -B
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>There is also a pc interface too... so you can do online collabs.
<br\>
<br\>At least paul now know he has a installed beta test base :D
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>ps: had I known that a keychain versionw as coming out, i would've
<br\>paid the extra $2
<br\>http://www.vectrex.biz/MemCard.htm
<br\>


Subject:
RE: Re: making your own keyboard overlay

Message:
<br\>
I think it would be useful if someone made a pdf or something of a blank
<br\>overlay layout. I'd imagine some plastic could be obtained, and having a
<br\>template to trace from or something....
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "David Goth" <xaos@k...> wrote:
<br\>> I think it would be useful if someone made a pdf or something of a blank
<br\>> overlay layout. I'd imagine some plastic could be obtained, and having a
<br\>> template to trace from or something....
<br\>
<br\>there is one in the yahoogroups file section, I belvie it was made by
<br\>bud melvin
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey I was wondering If it was possible to get a burned EPROM of Cynthcart since
<br\>I have
<br\>two unpopulated boards sitting here and would rather not buy a third...? - kBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey, theres one of these carts on ebay now:
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/COMMODORE-64-NEW-CARTRIDGE-GAME-MUSIC-MACHINE_W0QQitemZ52412\
<br\>80385QQcategoryZ74945QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>
<br\>just wondering if anyone has played this and what they think about it.
<br\>  is there anything cool about it?  I read a reveiw of it on harmony
<br\>central and it said it had a sequencer, which sounds cool.  i was
<br\>curious what you guys think about, if anyone has it.
<br\>
<br\>heres the review:
<br\>http://www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Data/Commodore/64_Music_Maker_Cassette-1.ht\
<br\>ml
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>just wondering if anyone has played this and what they think about it.
<br\>
<br\>It sucks IMO.  They didn't even bother to write their own keyboard reading
<br\>routines, so it's monophonic.
<br\>
<br\>>heres the review:
<br\>>http://www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Data/Commodore/64_Music_Maker_Cassette-1.h\
<br\>tml
<br\>
<br\>That's a review for Music MAKER, not the same thing.  Music maker if it's
<br\>what I'm thinking of (the disk that comes with the keyboard overlay) is
<br\>alright.  I've actually recorded some stuff with that program and it's
<br\>similar to the Cynthcart.
<br\>
<br\>I've yet to find an old skool C64 sequencer that doesn't suck.  Prophet 64
<br\>is the best sequencer-like thing I've seen, and there are some fantastic
<br\>trackers out there.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
THATs RIGHT IT SUCKS, i have it, waste of money, its gathering dust. I have
<br\>another cart thats a c64 synthesizer "modern music maker" and that one is
<br\>brilliant (not better than Paul's cynthcart) but PHATTASTIC enough and i use
<br\>both they make a great combination.
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Paul Slocum
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:42 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Music Machine for c64
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   >just wondering if anyone has played this and what they think about it.
<br\>
<br\>   It sucks IMO.  They didn't even bother to write their own keyboard reading
<br\>   routines, so it's monophonic.
<br\>
<br\>   >heres the review:
<br\>  
<br\>>http://www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Data/Commodore/64_Music_Maker_Cassette-1.h\
<br\>tml
<br\>
<br\>   That's a review for Music MAKER, not the same thing.  Music maker if it's
<br\>   what I'm thinking of (the disk that comes with the keyboard overlay) is
<br\>   alright.  I've actually recorded some stuff with that program and it's
<br\>   similar to the Cynthcart.
<br\>
<br\>   I've yet to find an old skool C64 sequencer that doesn't suck.  Prophet 64
<br\>   is the best sequencer-like thing I've seen, and there are some fantastic
<br\>   trackers out there.
<br\>
<br\>   -paul
<br\>
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<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kbudd777" <lifeinabox@g...> wrote:
<br\>> Hey I was wondering If it was possible to get a burned EPROM of
<br\>Cynthcart since I have
<br\>> two unpopulated boards sitting here and would rather not buy a
<br\>third...? - kBud
<br\>
<br\>Id email albert from atariage about that. Shouldnt be a problem.....
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Id email albert from atariage about that. Shouldnt be a problem.....
<br\>
<br\>yeah, just email Albert.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey paul, do you have any idea what you're planning for the next
<br\>release of cynthcart?  I know thats a long way off, but i'm addicted
<br\>to this messageboard and i'm always thinking about the future
<br\>possibilities of cynthcart etc.  I read that you develop based on what
<br\>features you personally need most in Tree Wave, and i was wondering
<br\>whats next on your list.  are you deffinatley going to add second
<br\>paddle support sometime in the future, for pitch or LFO?
<br\>
<br\>thanks for your time!
<br\>thomas
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>hey paul, do you have any idea what you're planning for the next
<br\>>release of cynthcart?
<br\>
<br\>I don't have the list in front of me, but here are some of the main
<br\>ones, roughly in order of priority:
<br\>
<br\>echo mode
<br\>software noise gate
<br\>unison mode
<br\>LFO -> volume,filter,pulse width
<br\>more/secondary paddle functions (pulse width, LFO rate, maybe pitch)
<br\>filter resonance control
<br\>sync/ring mod support
<br\>smarter portamento
<br\>maybe filter envelope
<br\>maybe 6 voice poly mode
<br\>maybe arpeggiator
<br\>


Subject:
Adding text to synthcart light show mode?

SubjectSrt:
Adding text to synthcart light show mode?

Message:
<br\>
Couldn't seem to find anything about this in searching past posts...
<br\>Anyone ever tried adding text to the light show mode?
<br\>Anyone got any tips on where to start to attempt this?
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>MAtt
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
a little off topic- paul, a few days ago you metioned c64
<br\>trackers.  which ones do
<br\>you prefer?  i like cyber tracker, but the one I'm really digging is
<br\>polytracker & all of its
<br\>sample based goodness.  Have you played with it at all?
<br\>Also- i'm having trouble acurately converting samples to the unsigned
<br\>8 bit raw format(for
<br\>poly)... the sample itself plays a lot slower when loaded on the
<br\>commodore.
<br\>if anyone has an tips/experience with this, please let me know.
<br\>thanks!
<br\>
<br\>-sean
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> sample based goodness.  Have you played with it at all?
<br\>> Also- i'm having trouble acurately converting samples to the unsigned
<br\>> 8 bit raw format(for
<br\>> poly)... the sample itself plays a lot slower when loaded on the
<br\>> commodore.
<br\>> if anyone has an tips/experience with this, please let me know.
<br\>> thanks!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>What sample format are you encoding at? I think the rate is hardcoded
<br\>across the "keyboard" so if you encode it at 8000k, then it will be in
<br\>tune at c-2, and lower and higher in pitch from there.
<br\>
<br\>Audacity is a good free tool for sampling.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>a little off topic- paul, a few days ago you metioned c64
<br\>>trackers.  which ones do
<br\>>you prefer?
<br\>
<br\>I really haven't messed with them that much.  GoatTracker seems kinda
<br\>cool since you can track on your PC and then transfer it.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I verified that the Cynthcart can do stereo using a SID Symphony
<br\>cartridge and an Aprotek cartridge expander (allows you to plug in
<br\>two carts at once).
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5241352474
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> I verified that the Cynthcart can do stereo using a SID Symphony
<br\>> cartridge and an Aprotek cartridge expander (allows you to plug in
<br\>> two carts at once).
<br\>>
<br\>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5241352474
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>so can it support THREE stereo sid carts???
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>  :)
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>so can it support THREE stereo sid carts???
<br\>
<br\>It could, but they're permanently set to address $DE00, so you'd have
<br\>to modify two of the SID carts to appear at a different address
<br\>unless you want them all to just play in unison.  Not sure how
<br\>difficult that mod would be.
<br\>
<br\>Today, I should also have a prototype of the SID II stereo card
<br\>coming in the mail.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello Friends,
<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
>we hope to see you soon in Paris.
<br\>>Gameboyzz perform there twice on Festival Emergences 2005.
<br\>
<br\>cool, we applied for Emergences 2006.  maybe we'll see you there. :o)
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> Today, I should also have a prototype of the SID II stereo card
<br\>> coming in the mail.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>is that the socket install board that just slides in the current slot?
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://girls.c64.org/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>-peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
LMAO!!!!!!
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<br\>   From: peter foti
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 6:13 PM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] hubba hubba
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
on the saw bass setting, highest octave up, with 5ths mode on: the
<br\>last group of 7 keys is screwy sounding and atonal.  its fine with the
<br\>other 3 octaves.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>also, the key that corresponds to my last white key on the overlay
<br\>doesnt make any noise.  this is the wider key on the end, i think its
<br\>the reset key.  is this just a problem with my c64?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>on the saw bass setting, highest octave up, with 5ths mode on: the
<br\>>last group of 7 keys is screwy sounding and atonal.  its fine with the
<br\>>other 3 octaves.
<br\>
<br\>That's a known problem.  The scale tables don't extend far enough.  Early
<br\>versions of the cart had that problem, and I found it was kind of
<br\>interesting to play with the atonal bits.  I extended the scale tables a
<br\>couple of octaves from the original version, but left a little bit that's
<br\>still out of range at the top.
<br\>
<br\>Not sure why your top key doesn't play.  Probably a problem with your
<br\>keyboard.  It shouldn't be hitting RESTORE (which is impossible for
<br\>software to read), should be hitting the key above that.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Ok so I assembled the Cart and put it in my C64, when I turn the computer on it
<br\>goes to
<br\>the prompt and registers 8k of the memory used.  How do I load it from the
<br\>prompt? I
<br\>thought that it loaded automatically?  Any info would be great. - kBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Ok so with the eprom on the cart, when the computer starts up it goes to the
<br\>usual blue
<br\>start-up screen the only difference is that the "bytes-free" is 8k lower.  It
<br\>says "Ready" I
<br\>type "RUN" hit enter and it goes to a new line and says "Ready"  I have tried
<br\>different LOAD
<br\>commands which usually end up with the comp asking for me to PRESS PLAY ON TAPE.
<br\>When I try a different Cart it loads a program right up, bypassing the blue
<br\>screen.  So any
<br\>suggestions??? - kBud
<br\>


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A normal Cynthcart will come up immediately when you power on the C64
<br\>(well, there is a slight delay, but it autoruns).  I assume the board
<br\>you are using is a bit different than the board we're using and that
<br\>the board might play a role in whether a cartridge program autostarts
<br\>or not.  Hopefully Paul can shed some light on this.
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On Sep 24, 2005, at 8:35 AM, kbudd777 wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Ok so I assembled the Cart and put it in my C64, when I turn the
<br\>> computer on it goes to
<br\>> the prompt and registers 8k of the memory used.  How do I load it
<br\>> from the prompt? I
<br\>> thought that it loaded automatically?  Any info would be great. - kBud
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I assume the board you are using is a bit different than the board
<br\>we're using and that the board might play a role in whether a
<br\>cartridge program autostarts or not.
<br\>
<br\>The Board I currently have it on is an Alpha Works board, which paul
<br\>said he had used before. - kBud
<br\>


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<br\>
>I assume the board you are using is a bit different than the board
<br\>>we're using and that the board might play a role in whether a
<br\>>cartridge program autostarts or not.
<br\>
<br\>He's using Alpha Works boards too.  I haven't had any problems with them so
<br\>far.  I sent you another email.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
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<br\>
i saw the paddle paul was using and i thought it looked like an atari
<br\>controller so i got a pair off ebay... i didnt know they would both be
<br\>Y-connected to the same controller input!  would it work to cut one
<br\>off or do i just have to get a commodore one?
<br\>
<br\>thanks!
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>i saw the paddle paul was using and i thought it looked like an atari
<br\>>controller so i got a pair off ebay... i didnt know they would both be
<br\>>Y-connected to the same controller input!  would it work to cut one
<br\>>off or do i just have to get a commodore one?
<br\>
<br\>They're all Y-connected.  I cut one off, although I might add functionality
<br\>for the other one at some point.  Commodore paddles work the best because
<br\>they have the widest range of motion, but Atari paddles are okay.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


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<br\>
woah.  so with 2 controller inputs and 2 Y-connected paddles, you
<br\>could have 4 different control parameters for synthcart?  thats cool.
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>>
<br\>> >i saw the paddle paul was using and i thought it looked like an atari
<br\>> >controller so i got a pair off ebay... i didnt know they would both be
<br\>> >Y-connected to the same controller input!  would it work to cut one
<br\>> >off or do i just have to get a commodore one?
<br\>>
<br\>> They're all Y-connected.  I cut one off, although I might add
<br\>functionality
<br\>> for the other one at some point.  Commodore paddles work the best
<br\>because
<br\>> they have the widest range of motion, but Atari paddles are okay.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


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<br\>
This week I've been getting ready to do our first show with the new
<br\>Cynthcart.  Overall, I'm really happy with it.  The few new features
<br\>that were added really make it a lot more useable than it was before.
<br\>
<br\>The main thing I don't like is the tuning interface.  It needs to be
<br\>activated by a key other than shift.  I want to use shift functions
<br\>to change things while I'm playing, but if I press shift while
<br\>holding keys it changes the tuning.  I'm just going to switch the key
<br\>that activates it.  Maybe Run-Stop or something.
<br\>
<br\>Also, in the future, I'm considering allowing people to set up their
<br\>own patches and have a Cynthcart made with whatever patch settings
<br\>they want.  So you'd modify the patch data, compile your own
<br\>Cynthcart ROM, and send it to Albert.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
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> The main thing I don't like is the tuning interface.  It needs to be
<br\>> activated by a key other than shift.  I want to use shift functions
<br\>> to change things while I'm playing, but if I press shift while
<br\>> holding keys it changes the tuning.  I'm just going to switch the key
<br\>> that activates it.  Maybe Run-Stop or something.
<br\>
<br\>yea just get it away from the playing keys
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Also, in the future, I'm considering allowing people to set up their
<br\>> own patches and have a Cynthcart made with whatever patch settings
<br\>> they want.  So you'd modify the patch data, compile your own
<br\>> Cynthcart ROM, and send it to Albert.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>How about a password interface like on old prebattery sram carts? So
<br\>you have a sound you like, hit PI, or whatever and a whatever digit
<br\>code pops up. Then the end user wont have to compile their own ram (I
<br\>am so pretty lazy and havent hacked the drum data in synthcart so
<br\>havent done that yet...)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>PS; I received the 8bit domain video/audio out. Very niceconstruction,
<br\>but I wont have time to install for at least a week...
<br\>
<br\>peter
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<br\>
Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>PS; I received the 8bit domain video/audio out. Very niceconstruction,
<br\>>but I wont have time to install for at least a week...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     That's what I said about it nine months ago.  :)
<br\>
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For those in Austin, we're playing tonight (Friday/30th) at Emo's w/ The
<br\>Octopus Project and Voxtrot.
<br\>
<br\>http://treewave.com
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


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<br\>
I'll be there!
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
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<br\>
<br\>> For those in Austin, we're playing tonight (Friday/30th) at Emo's
<br\>> w/ The
<br\>> Octopus Project and Voxtrot.
<br\>>
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Wish i could have went but i live in england lol
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<br\>   From: Albert Yarusso
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:02 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Austin show tonight
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   I'll be there!
<br\>
<br\>     ..Al
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<br\>   > Octopus Project and Voxtrot.
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The show was great, this was the first time I had an opportunity to
<br\>see Tree Wave live.  Really amazing what Paul's able to do with a
<br\>pair of Commodore 64s, an Atari 2600, an old (and tiny) Libretto
<br\>palmtop, and a dot matrix printer. I highly recommend it if Paul and
<br\>Lauren show up in your neck of the woods.  Foxtrot and The Octopus
<br\>Project also performed, and I liked Octopus Project enough to buy one
<br\>of their CDs.  :)
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On Sep 30, 2005, at 6:02 PM, ACEyBOX wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Wish i could have went but i live in england lol
<br\>>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>>   From: Albert Yarusso
<br\>>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:02 PM
<br\>>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Austin show tonight
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   I'll be there!
<br\>>
<br\>>     ..Al
<br\>>
<br\>>   On Sep 30, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>> For those in Austin, we're playing tonight (Friday/30th) at Emo's
<br\>>> w/ The
<br\>>> Octopus Project and Voxtrot.
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Albert Yarusso wrote:
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<br\>>The show was great, this was the first time I had an opportunity to
<br\>>see Tree Wave live.
<br\>>
<br\>     As self-appointed president of the Treewave Fidelity Auxiliary of
<br\>Chicago, I'm disappointed that I've never seen them perform live.  One
<br\>of these days that luck will change.  Until then, their CD's and
<br\>whatever I noodle out of Synthcart will have to do.  :)
<br\>
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why you rubbing it in lol
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<br\>   From: Albert Yarusso
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 7:57 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Austin show tonight
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   The show was great, this was the first time I had an opportunity to
<br\>   see Tree Wave live.  Really amazing what Paul's able to do with a
<br\>   pair of Commodore 64s, an Atari 2600, an old (and tiny) Libretto
<br\>   palmtop, and a dot matrix printer. I highly recommend it if Paul and
<br\>   Lauren show up in your neck of the woods.  Foxtrot and The Octopus
<br\>   Project also performed, and I liked Octopus Project enough to buy one
<br\>   of their CDs.  :)
<br\>
<br\>     ..Al
<br\>
<br\>   On Sep 30, 2005, at 6:02 PM, ACEyBOX wrote:
<br\>
<br\>   > Wish i could have went but i live in england lol
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<br\>   >   From: Albert Yarusso
<br\>   >   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   >   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:02 PM
<br\>   >   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Austin show tonight
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   I'll be there!
<br\>   >
<br\>   >     ..Al
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   On Sep 30, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >> For those in Austin, we're playing tonight (Friday/30th) at Emo's
<br\>   >> w/ The
<br\>   >> Octopus Project and Voxtrot.
<br\>   >>
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I found the docs for the C64 Passport MIDI interface.  I'm
<br\>researching what it would take to get basic MIDI IN support on the Cynthcart.
<br\>
<br\>I'm going to go ahead and change the tuning key-mapping and call it V1.1
<br\>
<br\>-paul
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<br\>
would that be accomplished with a midi interface like the passport,
<br\>and a cart expander? or would you be adding midi IN on a cartridge
<br\>chip that would house cynthcart as well?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> I found the docs for the C64 Passport MIDI interface.  I'm
<br\>> researching what it would take to get basic MIDI IN support on the
<br\>Cynthcart.
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm going to go ahead and change the tuning key-mapping and call it V1.1
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


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<br\>
>would that be accomplished with a midi interface like the passport,
<br\>>and a cart expander?
<br\>
<br\>yes.
<br\>
<br\>A special board would be cool, but I don't have time to design
<br\>something like that right now.  If somebody else wants to do it...
<br\>
<br\>C64 MIDI interfaces are not common, but they show up on Ebay pretty
<br\>regularly and aren't terribly expensive.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


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<br\>
Paul, could you post the Passport docs here under the groups Files
<br\>page? Thanks.
<br\>
<br\>> I found the docs for the C64 Passport MIDI interface.  I'm
<br\>> researching what it would take to get basic MIDI IN support on the
<br\>Cynthcart.
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm going to go ahead and change the tuning key-mapping and call it V1.1
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


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<br\>
>Paul, could you post the Passport docs here under the groups Files
<br\>>page? Thanks.
<br\>
<br\>I have a hardcopy, but I'll scan it at some point.
<br\>
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i really like the sounds of the C64 synth but i dont really know where to
<br\>start. i was hoping that some one could explain the basics of what i need
<br\>and how to use them. thanks a bunch!
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--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Paul, could you post the Passport docs here under the groups Files
<br\>> >page? Thanks.
<br\>>
<br\>> I have a hardcopy, but I'll scan it at some point.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I have the sequential cirucits inteface with the rom sequencer
<br\>software bultin. I wouldnt mind lending it out to see ot could be
<br\>fitted with cynthcart as a rom replacement...
<br\>
<br\>peter
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>i really like the sounds of the C64 synth but i dont really know where to
<br\>>start. i was hoping that some one could explain the basics of what i need
<br\>>and how to use them. thanks a bunch!
<br\>
<br\>I've been asked this a few times, so I just added it to the FAQ.
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/cynthcart.html
<br\>
<br\>-paul
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going to use cynthcart in a high school class

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<br\>
my math teacher from high school invited me to help out in a class
<br\>thats basically about digital music and computers and stuff.  I'm
<br\>going to take in some things just so the kids will have some really
<br\>different, experimental things to play with.
<br\>
<br\>I'm taking cynthcart in, as well as my bent sk-1 and some blank
<br\>cassette loops for them to play with.  I was also thinking of taking
<br\>midines and synthcart but i dont have either of those yet.
<br\>
<br\>i know its a little off topic, but i was wondering if you guys had any
<br\>other suggestions for a relatively cheap/weird instrument that i could
<br\>creep these kids out with. ;D
<br\>
<br\>thanks,
<br\>thomas
<br\>


Subject:
Re: going to use cynthcart in a high school class

Message:
<br\>
Gameboy+Gameboy camera is a cheap combo... the loop program, "DJ," in
<br\>there is simple to use and can crank out some sweet tunes.
<br\>
<br\>And Synthcart is only $25 at AtariAge!  And worth every penny, mang.
<br\>
<br\>-b
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <egosheep@g...> wrote:
<br\>> my math teacher from high school invited me to help out in a class
<br\>> thats basically about digital music and computers and stuff.  I'm
<br\>> going to take in some things just so the kids will have some really
<br\>> different, experimental things to play with.
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm taking cynthcart in, as well as my bent sk-1 and some blank
<br\>> cassette loops for them to play with.  I was also thinking of taking
<br\>> midines and synthcart but i dont have either of those yet.
<br\>>
<br\>> i know its a little off topic, but i was wondering if you guys had any
<br\>> other suggestions for a relatively cheap/weird instrument that i could
<br\>> creep these kids out with. ;D
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks,
<br\>> thomas
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
A theramin isn't cheap, but maybe you could borrow one.
<br\>
<br\>A bent Speak & Spell is always fun too.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yeah i have 2 speak and reads and hopfully i'll have one bent by then.
<br\>  not confident enough with the soldering pencil yet...
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> A theramin isn't cheap, but maybe you could borrow one.
<br\>>
<br\>> A bent Speak & Spell is always fun too.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>A theramin isn't cheap, but maybe you could borrow one.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     Paul beat me to recommending a theremin - because it's the first
<br\>electronic instrument, it would be a great start to any lifelong love of
<br\>electronic music.  I have the theremin made by this company (I don't
<br\>know if this it practical for you as I don't remember where you're located):
<br\>
<br\>http://pages.prodigy.net/chuckcollins/homepage.html
<br\>
<br\>     You can get it as a kit, or fully built.  There are also a number of
<br\>theremins offered on Ebay all the time at various price ranges.  Most of
<br\>the cheaper ones do not use the antenna, but rather use a light sensor
<br\>to control pitch.  I'm an antenna man myself...  :)
<br\>
<br\>     Again, depending on where you are there are those Radio Shack kits
<br\>that have the little spring terminals requiring no soldering.  The
<br\>bigger kits often have some sort of "organ" or tone generator project.
<br\>Or there are also kits that require just a little soldering that many
<br\>electronics mail-order places carry for kids getting started in electronics.
<br\>
<br\>     One last recommendation would be a Stylophone.  Again these are
<br\>offered all the time on Ebay.  I lucked into one at a thrift store for
<br\>$2, but it's not a bad deal even at Ebay prices.
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>I upload some tunes,synthcart and sid include.
<br\>
<br\>Extended chiptunes.Click it out if you want : )
<br\>
<br\>Its my second related mini release and the first under this name.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://music.gameboymall.com/music/texas%20workman.mp3
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>cheers
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>dr.blowfins
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Okay so I'm new. I have an old 2600 and would like to get the
<br\>synthcart but what's required to play it? Are these keyboard
<br\>controllers hard to find. Sorry if I missed the FAQ. Paul you're
<br\>amazing! I love how nasty this thing sounds!
<br\>HELP ME!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
kl5plow wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>Okay so I'm new. I have an old 2600 and would like to get the
<br\>>synthcart but what's required to play it? Are these keyboard
<br\>>controllers hard to find. Sorry if I missed the FAQ. Paul you're
<br\>>amazing! I love how nasty this thing sounds!
<br\>>HELP ME!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>http://www.qotile.net/synth.html
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i hope someone can answer this question. when i'm using cynthcart on
<br\>my c-64, i try to use the atari paddle controller i have but it just locks
<br\>up. in the c-64 start up screen, when i have the paddle plugged in, it
<br\>causes something like a shift lock. anyone know why this is happening?
<br\>bad chip? if so, which one? aside from this problem, everything else
<br\>seems to work fine. i'd hate to think it was the SID because the one i
<br\>have sounds really good.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>i hope someone can answer this question. when i'm using cynthcart on
<br\>>my c-64, i try to use the atari paddle controller i have but it just locks
<br\>>up. in the c-64 start up screen, when i have the paddle plugged in, it
<br\>>causes something like a shift lock. anyone know why this is happening?
<br\>>bad chip? if so, which one? aside from this problem, everything else
<br\>>seems to work fine. i'd hate to think it was the SID because the one i
<br\>>have sounds really good.
<br\>
<br\>Paddle button is stuck.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey, sometimes my paddle button does a whammy effect, but lower, and
<br\>sometimes it does nothing at all, depending on where i'm playing on
<br\>the keyboard.  does the paddle button have a function or is this
<br\>accidental?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>hey, sometimes my paddle button does a whammy effect, but lower, and
<br\>>sometimes it does nothing at all, depending on where i'm playing on
<br\>>the keyboard.  does the paddle button have a function or is this
<br\>>accidental?
<br\>
<br\>accidental.  The paddle button messes with reading the keyboard for
<br\>some reason.  I removed the button from one of my paddles because it
<br\>was overly sensitive and kept causing problems.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Subject:
INTERNATIONAL CHIPTUNE RESISTANCE NYC EXTRAVAGANZA!

SubjectSrt:
INTERNATIONAL CHIPTUNE RESISTANCE NYC EXTRAVAGANZA!

Message:
<br\>
..well, since no one else (cross-)posted this here..(if it's ok..)
<br\>mostly gameboy stuff, i know there'll be a Synthcart or 2 there ;)
<br\>
<br\>INTERNATIONAL CHIPTUNE RESISTANCE NYC EXTRAVAGANZA!
<br\>
<br\>Far-flung cells of a global 8-bit coalition converge upon New York
<br\>City for an unprecedented mass deployment of high-volume, low-
<br\>resolution beats, melodies, and tones. Game Boys, Nintendo
<br\>Entertainment Systems, and other familiar & timeless video game
<br\>consoles are pushed to unforseen limits by an international all-star
<br\>array including 9 music acts and 5 video artists! Related tactical
<br\>agendas interweave as astonishing preliminary light is shed upon the
<br\>highly classified project _We're The Operators,_ (
<br\>http://receptorsmusic.com/news.html )a forthcoming 8-bit Kraftwerk
<br\>tribute compilation; and as focus is trained on the subversive game-
<br\>engine talk show _This Spartan Life_
<br\>(http://www.thisspartanlife.com/), complete with random distribution
<br\>of free propaganda materials. This is absolutely not a show to miss!
<br\>Join the INTERNATIONAL CHIPTUNE RESISTANCE.
<br\>
<br\>music:
<br\>Bit Shifter (New York NY US) | www.bitshifter.cc
<br\>David Sugar (London UK) | www.davidsugar.com
<br\>OMAC (New York NY US) | www.webhole.com/omac
<br\>M-.-n (Brussels Belgium) | discodirt.10pm.org
<br\>Bubblyfish (New York NY US) | www.bubblyfish.com
<br\>Receptors (Virginia US) | www.receptorsmusic.com
<br\>Nullsleep (New York NY US) | www.nullsleep.com
<br\>Hey Kid Nice Robot (Baltimore MD US) | www.the-never.net
<br\>Glomag (New York NY US) | www.glomag.com
<br\>
<br\>video:
<br\>Chika (New York NY US) | www.chiklet.com
<br\>Johnny Beverly 1989 :: noteNdo (Baltimore MD US) |
<br\>audiovideo.sevcom.com
<br\>Ilan Katin (New York NY US)
<br\>Paris (New York NY US) | www.parisgraphics.com
<br\>Dan Winckler (New York NY US) | www.danwinckler.com
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>More Info:
<br\>http://www.bitshifter.cc/events_20051022.php
<br\>http://www.thetanknyc.com/spaceworks/
<br\>http://receptorsmusic.com/shows.html
<br\>


Subject:
Paul - how do enable/verify Chorus effect with 2nd SID

SubjectSrt:
Paul - how do enable/verify Chorus effect with 2nd SID

Message:
<br\>
Paul, just got my Sid Symphony cartridge in the mail. Can you tell me
<br\>how I enable the 2nd SID and verify the Chorus effect is working?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks.
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Paul - how do enable/verify Chorus effect with 2nd SID

Message:
<br\>
>Paul, just got my Sid Symphony cartridge in the mail. Can you tell me
<br\>>how I enable the 2nd SID and verify the Chorus effect is working?
<br\>
<br\>It's always enabled.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Im not sure if you all remember this small thread I
<br\>started about an Audio Out issue I was having.
<br\>
<br\>I would like to give a little more info on what was
<br\>going on. The only cart I had to use with the C64 was
<br\>a Magic Desk 1 which worked fine when I first got it,
<br\>but my intentions were to mod it into a cynthcart.
<br\>When I did this and atempted to use it, I found that
<br\>the video of the Cart worked fine it responds to my
<br\>keystroked on the keyboard, but I dont get any audio
<br\>out. So I thought I possibly messed up the SID. Well
<br\>it turns out that the SID is fine, I know this from
<br\>testing with a Pitfall Cartrige that I recently
<br\>purchased.
<br\>
<br\>So now I know that the problem is with the cart that
<br\>Ive modded into Cynthcart. Does anyone have any info
<br\>on what I might have done wrong?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> I think mine actually has a socket but I will look
<br\>> at
<br\>> it a little closer. Looks like Ill be ordering a
<br\>> chip
<br\>> this payday.
<br\>>
<br\>> Does anyone know of a good place to purchase one. I
<br\>> found a place in Utah that has them for $30.
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks,
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>> --- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >Im trying to find a way to test the sid chip in
<br\>> my
<br\>> > >C64. The chip I have is a 6581. I get no audio
<br\>> out
<br\>> > of
<br\>> > >either of the RF or A/V outputs.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I would say if you're getting no audio, it's
<br\>> > probably a bad
<br\>> > SID.  Easiest way to test it is probably to swap
<br\>> it
<br\>> > out, but I think
<br\>> > they're usually soldered down.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
OT HardSid Quattro w/ 3 sids Please Reply Off Forum

SubjectSrt:
OT HardSid Quattro w/ 3 sids Please Reply Off Forum

Message:
<br\>
Hello, I have a HardSid Quattro for sale that has three 6581 Sids populating the
<br\>board with
<br\>an open slot for another, it is an ISA card and I would be willing to sell the
<br\>card alone or
<br\>sell the whole computer if you don't have an ISA equipped computer around. 
<br\>Please reply
<br\>off forum if you are interested at lifeinabox at Gmail dot com
<br\>


Subject:
Re: INTERNATIONAL CHIPTUNE RESISTANCE NYC EXTRAVAGANZA!

Message:
<br\>
Its only on topic if my band was mentioned first
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>BANNED
<br\>
<br\>see your banned ass there!
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "receptorsmusic" <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> ..well, since no one else (cross-)posted this here..(if it's ok..)
<br\>> mostly gameboy stuff, i know there'll be a Synthcart or 2 there ;)
<br\>>
<br\>> INTERNATIONAL CHIPTUNE RESISTANCE NYC EXTRAVAGANZA!
<br\>>
<br\>> Far-flung cells of a global 8-bit coalition converge upon New York
<br\>> City for an unprecedented mass deployment of high-volume, low-
<br\>> resolution beats, melodies, and tones. Game Boys, Nintendo
<br\>> Entertainment Systems, and other familiar & timeless video game
<br\>> consoles are pushed to unforseen limits by an international all-star
<br\>> array including 9 music acts and 5 video artists! Related tactical
<br\>> agendas interweave as astonishing preliminary light is shed upon the
<br\>> highly classified project _We're The Operators,_ (
<br\>> http://receptorsmusic.com/news.html )a forthcoming 8-bit Kraftwerk
<br\>> tribute compilation; and as focus is trained on the subversive game-
<br\>> engine talk show _This Spartan Life_
<br\>> (http://www.thisspartanlife.com/), complete with random distribution
<br\>> of free propaganda materials. This is absolutely not a show to miss!
<br\>> Join the INTERNATIONAL CHIPTUNE RESISTANCE.
<br\>>
<br\>> music:
<br\>> Bit Shifter (New York NY US) | www.bitshifter.cc
<br\>> David Sugar (London UK) | www.davidsugar.com
<br\>> OMAC (New York NY US) | www.webhole.com/omac
<br\>> M-.-n (Brussels Belgium) | discodirt.10pm.org
<br\>> Bubblyfish (New York NY US) | www.bubblyfish.com
<br\>> Receptors (Virginia US) | www.receptorsmusic.com
<br\>> Nullsleep (New York NY US) | www.nullsleep.com
<br\>> Hey Kid Nice Robot (Baltimore MD US) | www.the-never.net
<br\>> Glomag (New York NY US) | www.glomag.com
<br\>>
<br\>> video:
<br\>> Chika (New York NY US) | www.chiklet.com
<br\>> Johnny Beverly 1989 :: noteNdo (Baltimore MD US) |
<br\>> audiovideo.sevcom.com
<br\>> Ilan Katin (New York NY US)
<br\>> Paris (New York NY US) | www.parisgraphics.com
<br\>> Dan Winckler (New York NY US) | www.danwinckler.com
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> More Info:
<br\>> http://www.bitshifter.cc/events_20051022.php
<br\>> http://www.thetanknyc.com/spaceworks/
<br\>> http://receptorsmusic.com/shows.html
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>So now I know that the problem is with the cart that
<br\>>Ive modded into Cynthcart. Does anyone have any info
<br\>>on what I might have done wrong?
<br\>
<br\>I'm stumped.  That's really weird.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
...coincidentally my ass IS banned in 16 states!
<br\>...must been the assless chams i wear onstage...
<br\>
<br\>..see you there.. }:0
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>j
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> see your banned ass there!
<br\>>
<br\>> peter
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "receptorsmusic" <jeremy@k...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > ..well, since no one else (cross-)posted this here..(if it's
<br\>ok..)
<br\>> > mostly gameboy stuff, i know there'll be a Synthcart or 2
<br\>there ;)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > INTERNATIONAL CHIPTUNE RESISTANCE NYC EXTRAVAGANZA!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Far-flung cells of a global 8-bit coalition converge upon New
<br\>York
<br\>> > City for an unprecedented mass deployment of high-volume, low-
<br\>> > resolution beats, melodies, and tones. Game Boys, Nintendo
<br\>> > Entertainment Systems, and other familiar & timeless video game
<br\>> > consoles are pushed to unforseen limits by an international all-
<br\>star
<br\>> > array including 9 music acts and 5 video artists! Related
<br\>tactical
<br\>> > agendas interweave as astonishing preliminary light is shed upon
<br\>the
<br\>> > highly classified project _We're The Operators,_ (
<br\>> > http://receptorsmusic.com/news.html )a forthcoming 8-bit
<br\>Kraftwerk
<br\>> > tribute compilation; and as focus is trained on the subversive
<br\>game-
<br\>> > engine talk show _This Spartan Life_
<br\>> > (http://www.thisspartanlife.com/), complete with random
<br\>distribution
<br\>> > of free propaganda materials. This is absolutely not a show to
<br\>miss!
<br\>> > Join the INTERNATIONAL CHIPTUNE RESISTANCE.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > music:
<br\>> > Bit Shifter (New York NY US) | www.bitshifter.cc
<br\>> > David Sugar (London UK) | www.davidsugar.com
<br\>> > OMAC (New York NY US) | www.webhole.com/omac
<br\>> > M-.-n (Brussels Belgium) | discodirt.10pm.org
<br\>> > Bubblyfish (New York NY US) | www.bubblyfish.com
<br\>> > Receptors (Virginia US) | www.receptorsmusic.com
<br\>> > Nullsleep (New York NY US) | www.nullsleep.com
<br\>> > Hey Kid Nice Robot (Baltimore MD US) | www.the-never.net
<br\>> > Glomag (New York NY US) | www.glomag.com
<br\>> >
<br\>> > video:
<br\>> > Chika (New York NY US) | www.chiklet.com
<br\>> > Johnny Beverly 1989 :: noteNdo (Baltimore MD US) |
<br\>> > audiovideo.sevcom.com
<br\>> > Ilan Katin (New York NY US)
<br\>> > Paris (New York NY US) | www.parisgraphics.com
<br\>> > Dan Winckler (New York NY US) | www.danwinckler.com
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > More Info:
<br\>> > http://www.bitshifter.cc/events_20051022.php
<br\>> > http://www.thetanknyc.com/spaceworks/
<br\>> > http://receptorsmusic.com/shows.html
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
Re: was: Commodore SID Question Now: Cart Issue

SubjectSrt:
was: Commodore SID Question Now: Cart Issue

Message:
<br\>
Paul,
<br\>
<br\>I made the cynthcart cartrige and when I stated
<br\>getting no sound out of my C64. I side tracked on a
<br\>wild goose chase of the SID. Once I found out that was
<br\>good I did some searching for a new binary file and
<br\>then found that there wasnt one. So I started reading
<br\>some of the old messages and found that I did what you
<br\>suggested and Im guessing thats where the problem is.
<br\>Heres the previous messageabout the .prg file:
<br\>
<br\>>file but all I found were three files: cnth711.crt,
<br\>>cnth711.prg, and cnth711.txt.
<br\>
<br\>If you can strip the first two bytes off the .prg,
<br\>that should do
<br\>it.  If not I can email you the raw binary tonight.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >So now I know that the problem is with the cart
<br\>> that
<br\>> >Ive modded into Cynthcart. Does anyone have any
<br\>> info
<br\>> >on what I might have done wrong?
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm stumped.  That's really weird.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
nice midiNES system . . . (cross-posted from midiNES group)

SubjectSrt:
nice midiNES system . . . (cross-posted from midiNES group)

Message:
<br\>
Hey there!
<br\>
<br\>I don't know if you've all seen this already, but I'm selling my
<br\>midiNES system (with cartridge).
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7359769223
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I am completely and totally broke right now and need to raise $2,000
<br\>very quickly.
<br\>
<br\>I have a lot of money coming in from a big transaction, but I won't be
<br\>getting it for about a month and a half. .
<br\>I need to cover my rent, insurance, and other bills way before then.
<br\>
<br\>Please have a look!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>-r andrew
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Circuit-bent-modified-modded-atari-2600-w-
<br\>synthcart_W0QQitemZ8226239839QQcategoryZ4315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm
<br\>dZViewItem
<br\>
<br\>check it....
<br\>
<br\>only hours left....
<br\>
<br\>word...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
dammit...make sure the link address is one long line
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "amigatrash" <dispyz@h...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Circuit-bent-modified-modded-atari-2600-w-
<br\>synthcart_W0QQitemZ8226239839QQcategoryZ4315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm
<br\>dZViewItem
<br\>>
<br\>> check it....
<br\>>
<br\>> only hours left....
<br\>>
<br\>> word...
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Pretty rad, man.  The Genesis controller stuff is wicked.  Is that
<br\>modded as well or is that simply what you would get with that beast
<br\>plugged into any 2600 with a Synthcart?
<br\>
<br\>-b
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "amigatrash" <dispyz@h...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> dammit...make sure the link address is one long line
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "amigatrash" <dispyz@h...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > http://cgi.ebay.com/Circuit-bent-modified-modded-atari-2600-w-
<br\>> synthcart_W0QQitemZ8226239839QQcategoryZ4315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm
<br\>> dZViewItem
<br\>> >
<br\>> > check it....
<br\>> >
<br\>> > only hours left....
<br\>> >
<br\>> > word...
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey chip loving people!
<br\>
<br\>Due to the high number of submissions
<br\>we fulfilled the wished number of tracks for the Chip O'Lantern compilation
<br\>before the expected time.
<br\>If you have already finished your track feel free to sending it until oct 29.
<br\>we don't want to make any kind of rejections so there would be a bonus release
<br\>with some
<br\>extra undead tracks!
<br\>The 13 tracks compilation will be launched online this Halloween!
<br\>So check Gainlad's home at night for this special surprise
<br\>Hahahahah...
<br\>
<br\>Gainlad Net-Label creepy team.
<br\>
<br\>www.gainlad.gameboymall.com
<br\>
<br\>Received submissions:
<br\>*Autocide
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Message:
<br\>
It's straight out of the box. No mods. I'm sure you can rewire it to
<br\>actually work "properly" ie specific functions. I'm actually shocked
<br\>no one has thought of this yet. Better yet...remember those old
<br\>Mortal Kombat programmable controllers with rapid fire?? Now we're
<br\>talkin'! I need to see if my cousin has anything else in his attic...
<br\>
<br\>here's hoping!
<br\>
<br\>btw...I put some links to some vg tunes I've done on my gameboy
<br\>auction.....
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/Nanoloop-1-1-2-0-w-sync-box-3-game-boy-1-
<br\>sp_W0QQitemZ7360465901QQcategoryZ38071QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
<br\>wItem
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Thanks!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "dotdUmmy" <bradyleo@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Pretty rad, man.  The Genesis controller stuff is wicked.  Is that
<br\>> modded as well or is that simply what you would get with that beast
<br\>> plugged into any 2600 with a Synthcart?
<br\>>
<br\>> -b
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "amigatrash" <dispyz@h...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > dammit...make sure the link address is one long line
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "amigatrash" <dispyz@h...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Circuit-bent-modified-modded-atari-2600-w-
<br\>> >
<br\>synthcart_W0QQitemZ8226239839QQcategoryZ4315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQc
<br\>m
<br\>> > dZViewItem
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > check it....
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > only hours left....
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > word...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
neat-
<br\>i'm trying to figure out what the atari bend is. You say you didnt do this
<br\>yourself, do you know who did? sounds like he's messing with the clock? I
<br\>notice the tempo of the synthcart changes, and the sounds get distorted. I
<br\>wonder if you could bypass the clock with some kind of variable pulse circuit,
<br\>like a 555 timer.... Anyone else have any guesses?
<br\>
<br\>And the NES mod sounds like he's just muting the different synth outputs-
<br\>pulse, noise, square, etc.....
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello!
<br\>
<br\>I wrote in the auction that my cousin modded the unit years and years
<br\>ago. I really have no clue as to what it's doing. You may in fact be
<br\>right.
<br\>
<br\>Same with the nes. I'm not sure. I didn't think you can seperate the
<br\>outputs of each channel on there however. My guess was that each
<br\>switch was connected to each audio pin output which would explain why
<br\>only the bass and noise on one switch and the two leads on the
<br\>other.. who knows? I'm prolly wrong. The games that were used for the
<br\>examples were super mario, guardian legend, ninja gaiden, and maniac
<br\>mansion....so if you were hinting that I sequenced with the midines
<br\>and muted the tracks that is not the case.
<br\>
<br\>What is a 555 timer?
<br\>
<br\>Tyler
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@a...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> neat-
<br\>> i'm trying to figure out what the atari bend is. You say you didnt
<br\>do this
<br\>> yourself, do you know who did? sounds like he's messing with the
<br\>clock? I
<br\>> notice the tempo of the synthcart changes, and the sounds get
<br\>distorted. I
<br\>> wonder if you could bypass the clock with some kind of variable
<br\>pulse circuit,
<br\>> like a 555 timer.... Anyone else have any guesses?
<br\>>
<br\>> And the NES mod sounds like he's just muting the different synth
<br\>outputs-
<br\>> pulse, noise, square, etc.....
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello
<br\>
<br\>On a NES, the pulse channels can be tapped seperatley from the
<br\>dmc,tri, and noise channels:
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://www.zyx.com/chrisc/nesstereo.html
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "amigatrash" <dispyz@h...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hello!
<br\>>
<br\>> I wrote in the auction that my cousin modded the unit years and years
<br\>> ago. I really have no clue as to what it's doing. You may in fact be
<br\>> right.
<br\>>
<br\>> Same with the nes. I'm not sure. I didn't think you can seperate the
<br\>> outputs of each channel on there however. My guess was that each
<br\>> switch was connected to each audio pin output which would explain why
<br\>> only the bass and noise on one switch and the two leads on the
<br\>> other.. who knows? I'm prolly wrong. The games that were used for the
<br\>> examples were super mario, guardian legend, ninja gaiden, and maniac
<br\>> mansion....so if you were hinting that I sequenced with the midines
<br\>> and muted the tracks that is not the case.
<br\>>
<br\>> What is a 555 timer?
<br\>>
<br\>> Tyler
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@a...>
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > neat-
<br\>> > i'm trying to figure out what the atari bend is. You say you didnt
<br\>> do this
<br\>> > yourself, do you know who did? sounds like he's messing with the
<br\>> clock? I
<br\>> > notice the tempo of the synthcart changes, and the sounds get
<br\>> distorted. I
<br\>> > wonder if you could bypass the clock with some kind of variable
<br\>> pulse circuit,
<br\>> > like a 555 timer.... Anyone else have any guesses?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > And the NES mod sounds like he's just muting the different synth
<br\>> outputs-
<br\>> > pulse, noise, square, etc.....
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Not mine:
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8714538209&ssPageName=ADME:B:\
<br\>SS:US:1
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yeah...it seems as if the nes I had up did the same thing...only with
<br\>switches. Still two outputs though....I thought you ment each of the
<br\>five channels had it's own output. Thanks for the link!
<br\>
<br\>Tyler
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hello
<br\>>
<br\>> On a NES, the pulse channels can be tapped seperatley from the
<br\>> dmc,tri, and noise channels:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.zyx.com/chrisc/nesstereo.html
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "amigatrash" <dispyz@h...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hello!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I wrote in the auction that my cousin modded the unit years and
<br\>years
<br\>> > ago. I really have no clue as to what it's doing. You may in fact
<br\>be
<br\>> > right.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Same with the nes. I'm not sure. I didn't think you can seperate
<br\>the
<br\>> > outputs of each channel on there however. My guess was that each
<br\>> > switch was connected to each audio pin output which would explain
<br\>why
<br\>> > only the bass and noise on one switch and the two leads on the
<br\>> > other.. who knows? I'm prolly wrong. The games that were used for
<br\>the
<br\>> > examples were super mario, guardian legend, ninja gaiden, and
<br\>maniac
<br\>> > mansion....so if you were hinting that I sequenced with the
<br\>midines
<br\>> > and muted the tracks that is not the case.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > What is a 555 timer?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Tyler
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@a...>
<br\>> > wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > neat-
<br\>> > > i'm trying to figure out what the atari bend is. You say you
<br\>didnt
<br\>> > do this
<br\>> > > yourself, do you know who did? sounds like he's messing with
<br\>the
<br\>> > clock? I
<br\>> > > notice the tempo of the synthcart changes, and the sounds get
<br\>> > distorted. I
<br\>> > > wonder if you could bypass the clock with some kind of variable
<br\>> > pulse circuit,
<br\>> > > like a 555 timer.... Anyone else have any guesses?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > And the NES mod sounds like he's just muting the different
<br\>synth
<br\>> > outputs-
<br\>> > > pulse, noise, square, etc.....
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -justin
<br\>> > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
NONcynthcart auction:
<br\>
<br\>http://tinyurl.com/7ccb7
<br\>
<br\>and an absurd cynthcart auction:
<br\>
<br\>http://tinyurl.com/8qqxl
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Not mine:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8714538209&ssPageName=ADME:B:\
<br\>SS:US:1
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --
<br\>>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>    modern filmmaker
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "amigatrash" <dispyz@h...> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> What is a 555 timer?
<br\>
<br\>Its a simple circuit you can build for less than $15, with parts from radio
<br\>shack.
<br\>It just puts out pulses. and you can control the rate with a pot. It can be used
<br\>to
<br\>replace the clocks in other things. So you can slow down or speed everything
<br\>up with the twist of a knob. But video game consoles usually need a more
<br\>stable clock. I'm not sure about the atari tho.
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Gordon Turner is now a fulltime member of Firebrand_Boy. He brings
<br\>glorious vocals, a little piano and lovely guitar too. Good lord it is
<br\>all musical and glorious! Listen one, listen all. The new track called
<br\>'Orange' on our Myspace is from our forthcoming EP, 'Songs For Cake'.
<br\>We currently have three or four other tracks and we are working on
<br\>more. These will not reach the ears of anyone until the time of
<br\>release. However, please check out the new track for a sample of
<br\>things to come!
<br\>
<br\>Instrumentation:
<br\>
<br\>Commodore64 (Cynthcart)
<br\>
<br\>Nintendo Game Boy (LSDJ)
<br\>
<br\>Acoustic Piano
<br\>
<br\>Male Vocals
<br\>
<br\>Atari STe (Soundchipsynth)
<br\>
<br\>NES (MIDInes)
<br\>
<br\>Magical 8bit Softsynth
<br\>
<br\>http://www.myspace.com/firebrandboy
<br\>
<br\>Love and peace,
<br\>
<br\>Philip and Gordon
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Well, Im back at trouble shooting this bugger again. I
<br\>found found that there is a very low level audio
<br\>coming out. I switched from using the A/V cable to an
<br\>RF cpmverter. I can now hear a very low abount of
<br\>audio, only when Pulse A is selected. None of the
<br\>other options produce much more the a small spike of
<br\>noise, at least thats what it sounds like to me.
<br\>
<br\>My TV set is turned almost all the way up inorder for
<br\>me to hear this. Has anyone else ran into this same
<br\>sort of problem? Again when I use an origional cart,
<br\>Pitfall the audio is fine at a usual level on the TV.
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Paul,
<br\>>
<br\>> I made the cynthcart cartrige and when I stated
<br\>> getting no sound out of my C64. I side tracked on a
<br\>> wild goose chase of the SID. Once I found out that
<br\>> was
<br\>> good I did some searching for a new binary file and
<br\>> then found that there wasnt one. So I started
<br\>> reading
<br\>> some of the old messages and found that I did what
<br\>> you
<br\>> suggested and Im guessing thats where the problem
<br\>> is.
<br\>> Heres the previous messageabout the .prg file:
<br\>>
<br\>> >file but all I found were three files: cnth711.crt,
<br\>> >cnth711.prg, and cnth711.txt.
<br\>>
<br\>> If you can strip the first two bytes off the .prg,
<br\>> that should do
<br\>> it.  If not I can email you the raw binary tonight.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >So now I know that the problem is with the cart
<br\>> > that
<br\>> > >Ive modded into Cynthcart. Does anyone have any
<br\>> > info
<br\>> > >on what I might have done wrong?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I'm stumped.  That's really weird.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I just got my cynthcart in the post today. I am using it with a pal c64
<br\>(newer version). I have a srange problem with it. I get a an extrememy
<br\>low sound output when I press a note, about the same level as the
<br\>backgroung noise. But when I press two notes at once I get the full
<br\>loud normal output. When I turn on fiths I also get a good output from
<br\>pressing just one note.  but I dont get the original note plus a fith,
<br\>just the fith on its own ??
<br\>
<br\>I am assuming this is because one of the occilators is not working in
<br\>my SID. I am going to buy another C64 and try that. I have just posted
<br\>this here in case anyone else has had this problem, or has any ideas!!
<br\>
<br\>Cant wait to get it going properly cause I love that sound :)
<br\>
<br\>Also any news on the talk of the atari paddle dual controller idea, or
<br\>the audio in implementation ?
<br\>
<br\>thanks
<br\>W
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey quick question:
<br\>      was trying to use my synthcart in conjuntion w/ other synths and
<br\>drum machines. does anyone know where to get a clock signal from my
<br\>synthcart so i can sync it with stuff that has a clock in? or even if
<br\>that's possible?
<br\>-justin
<br\>
<br\>P.S.-when did this group become eBay?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I just got my cynthcart in the post today. I am using it with a pal c64
<br\>>(newer version). I have a srange problem with it. I get a an extrememy
<br\>>low sound output when I press a note, about the same level as the
<br\>>backgroung noise. But when I press two notes at once I get the full
<br\>>loud normal output. When I turn on fiths I also get a good output from
<br\>>pressing just one note.  but I dont get the original note plus a fith,
<br\>>just the fith on its own ??
<br\>
<br\>I'm not sure what this or the other low volume problem could be.  Maybe be
<br\>some obscure problem with the SID.  Maybe a bad external input (which is
<br\>enabled w/ the Cynthcart) or a filter problem.  I would try setting the
<br\>volume at max and see if that helps (press =).  And maybe fiddle with the
<br\>filter settings and see if that changes anything.
<br\>
<br\>I've tested it thoroughly with several C64s (old and new).  And people with
<br\>PAL C64's have reported that it works fine.
<br\>
<br\>Can you try it on another C64?
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Well, Im back at trouble shooting this bugger again. I
<br\>>found found that there is a very low level audio
<br\>>coming out. I switched from using the A/V cable to an
<br\>>RF cpmverter.
<br\>
<br\>See my answer to the other volume problem.  Do you have another C64 you can
<br\>try?  Does it work if you hold down 3 notes?
<br\>
<br\>Maybe if you don't have any luck, you can ship me your C64 and I can try to
<br\>figure out what's wrong.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>      was trying to use my synthcart in conjuntion w/ other synths and
<br\>>drum machines. does anyone know where to get a clock signal from my
<br\>>synthcart so i can sync it with stuff that has a clock in? or even if
<br\>>that's possible?
<br\>
<br\>There's no support for a clock signal.  The only way I know is to sync it
<br\>manually.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Justin Wood wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>P.S.-when did this group become eBay?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     I posted a couple of ebay listings recently, but they weren't mine.
<br\>I just happened to find some keyboard controllers that folks here have
<br\>had a hard time finding.  Just trying to help out.
<br\>
<br\>     personally I don't have a problem with people listing their Ebay
<br\>stuff, as long as it's not a long-ass post, and that it's related in
<br\>some way to electronic music/gadgets, etc.  Obviously don't want the
<br\>list to become dominated by that stuff, but I think that it helps more
<br\>than harms in this case.
<br\>
<br\>     Just my opinion.  Would be happy to hear the other mods help clarify
<br\>a policy on this...
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I posted a couple of ebay listings recently, but they weren't mine.
<br\>> I just happened to find some keyboard controllers that folks here have
<br\>> had a hard time finding.  Just trying to help out.
<br\>>
<br\>>     personally I don't have a problem with people listing their Ebay
<br\>> stuff, as long as it's not a long-ass post, and that it's related in
<br\>> some way to electronic music/gadgets, etc.  Obviously don't want the
<br\>> list to become dominated by that stuff, but I think that it helps more
<br\>> than harms in this case.
<br\>>
<br\>>     Just my opinion.  Would be happy to hear the other mods help clarify
<br\>> a policy on this...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I Will judge unfairly and capricously. In my opinion, one or two a week isn't
<br\>too bad, but if
<br\>the auction is too esoteric, or chronic then i will deal with the matter off
<br\>list. I would
<br\>probaly ask that people keep their listings concise, to the point, and singular.
<br\>No "ten min
<br\>left" shilling etc.
<br\>
<br\>People are always asking about keyboard controllers and overlays, so If someone
<br\>wants to
<br\>post a sweet auction I would conisder that ontpoic. Selling your boxfull of
<br\>"yar's revenge is
<br\>pushing it" and dirty celebrity undewear is verbotten (and exciting)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>If enough people disagree I would be willing to accede to the will of the
<br\>masses.
<br\>
<br\>PS: There are tons of spamidh messages that get deleted before any of you even
<br\>know its
<br\>here. I am the thin blue line.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter "powertrippin" Swimm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> >I just got my cynthcart in the post today. I am using it with a
<br\>pal c64
<br\>> >(newer version). I have a srange problem with it. I get a an
<br\>extrememy
<br\>> >low sound output when I press a note, about the same level as the
<br\>> >backgroung noise. But when I press two notes at once I get the full
<br\>> >loud normal output. When I turn on fiths I also get a good output
<br\>from
<br\>> >pressing just one note.  but I dont get the original note plus a
<br\>fith,
<br\>> >just the fith on its own ??
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm not sure what this or the other low volume problem could be.
<br\>Maybe be
<br\>> some obscure problem with the SID.  Maybe a bad external input
<br\>(which is
<br\>> enabled w/ the Cynthcart) or a filter problem.  I would try setting
<br\>the
<br\>> volume at max and see if that helps (press =).  And maybe fiddle
<br\>with the
<br\>> filter settings and see if that changes anything.
<br\>>
<br\>> I've tested it thoroughly with several C64s (old and new).  And
<br\>people with
<br\>> PAL C64's have reported that it works fine.
<br\>>
<br\>> Can you try it on another C64?
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>  Yep, Ill try that , it does seem like one of the occilators is gone
<br\>wrong on my sid, is that possible ??
<br\>
<br\>I've put volume at high and fiddled with the filter, no change.
<br\>
<br\>its weierd cause its all fine when its playing more than one note ??
<br\>
<br\>ill try another C64 and let you know....
<br\>
<br\>cheers
<br\>C
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey paul, i was wondering what kind of projector you use for your
<br\>treewave shows... it looks really great!  i'd like to use some visual
<br\>stuff for my band but i'm not sure what kind of projector would be
<br\>best.  obviously cheaper is better but i dont know how cheap i can go
<br\>and have it still function.
<br\>
<br\>thanks,
<br\>thomas
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>hey paul, i was wondering what kind of projector you use for your
<br\>>treewave shows... it looks really great!  i'd like to use some visual
<br\>>stuff for my band but i'm not sure what kind of projector would be
<br\>>best.  obviously cheaper is better but i dont know how cheap i can go
<br\>>and have it still function.
<br\>
<br\>I use a Toshiba.  I sacrificed image quality (color quality/contrast)
<br\>and resolution (800x600) for brightness.  Mine's 1400 lumens, and
<br\>it's LCD which is usually brighter per lumen than DLP.  It cost about
<br\>$900 factory refurbished (by far my most expensive piece of gear),
<br\>and I've had no problems at all with it.  But prices have dropped,
<br\>and you can now probably get something similar or better for <$800.
<br\>
<br\>Sometimes I wish I'd just paid a little more for 1024x768 resolution
<br\>for when I use it with a computer.  It works great for videogames,
<br\>but the image/color quality isn't great for movies.  At the time I
<br\>researched the stuff, to get one that's as bright as I want and that
<br\>is high enough quality for movies, you had to spend at least $1500,
<br\>probably more like $2000.
<br\>
<br\>And you definitely want to pay attention to bulb life, cost, and
<br\>reliability.  New bulbs often cost $300-$500.  I've had mine about 2
<br\>years and I think I've used around 400-500 hours of a 2000 hour
<br\>bulb.  So they last quite a while unless you're doing gallery
<br\>installations or watching movies and TV all the time.
<br\>
<br\>It was a lot of money, but considering how much better it makes our
<br\>shows and how much fun we've had playing Mario Kart, it was money well spent.
<br\>
<br\>For researching projectors, check out http://projectorcentral.com
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Here are a couple more C64 keyboard overlay auctions from our
<br\>friends in the UK and Oz:
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8229964782&ssPageName=ADME:B:\
<br\>SS:US:1
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8229933290&ssPageName=ADME:B:\
<br\>SS:US:1
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8230661508&ssPageName=ADME:B:\
<br\>SS:US:1
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I have 2 C64's and have tested cynthcart on both, with
<br\>no luck on iether, but i noticed that the results I
<br\>was getting, were different on each of them, one had
<br\>some use and the other has no use.
<br\>
<br\>Then today I received an additional C64 from a friend
<br\>and everything works fine. It is possible that the bad
<br\>power supply issue, that was mentioned earlier in this
<br\>troubleshooting process, was part of the reason my
<br\>first C64 went bad and then I paid no mind to
<br\>interchanging the power supplys between them before
<br\>knowing there was a possible issue.
<br\>
<br\>I do want to troubleshoot the power supplys and see if
<br\>there is a problem. Does anyone now what the values
<br\>should be and should the power supply be uinderload.
<br\>
<br\>And then its possible Ill be selling these units for
<br\>parts, anyone interested? Evrything is good except the
<br\>SID and possibly the power supplies,
<br\>
<br\>Thanks again,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >Well, Im back at trouble shooting this bugger
<br\>> again. I
<br\>> >found found that there is a very low level audio
<br\>> >coming out. I switched from using the A/V cable to
<br\>> an
<br\>> >RF cpmverter.
<br\>>
<br\>> See my answer to the other volume problem.  Do you
<br\>> have another C64 you can
<br\>> try?  Does it work if you hold down 3 notes?
<br\>>
<br\>> Maybe if you don't have any luck, you can ship me
<br\>> your C64 and I can try to
<br\>> figure out what's wrong.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I do want to troubleshoot the power supplys and see if
<br\>>there is a problem. Does anyone now what the values
<br\>>should be and should the power supply be uinderload.
<br\>
<br\>It has to be under load.  Detailed testing info in the power supply section:
<br\>http://personalpages.tds.net/~rcarlsen/cbm.html
<br\>
<br\>Probably the best route is to get a C128 supply and modify it to work with
<br\>a C64 (just change the connector).  This is what I'm eventually going to do.
<br\>
<br\>And I'm going to try to power two C64s off a single C128 supply.  Based on
<br\>my research, this should work as long as you're not using the datassette or
<br\>stuff on the user port (things that use the 9VAC supply).  There's plenty
<br\>of power for 2 C64s on the 5VDC line.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
OK, let me state first and foremost I am running this on a Commodore
<br\>128.
<br\>
<br\>Everything works perfectly most of the time, but sometimes when you
<br\>change patches or cycle the filter settings you'll get a sharp
<br\>piercing sound on certian keys... not all keys... sometimes C, F# or
<br\>G#. Then if you change the patch again it will make the noise on a
<br\>different set of keys.  Sometimes it stops all together and works
<br\>perfectly again.
<br\>
<br\>Any thoughts on what could be causing this? (Assuming it's not some
<br\>weird C128 thing?) I don't have any other Commodores to try the cart
<br\>on at this time.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Everything works perfectly most of the time, but sometimes when you
<br\>>change patches or cycle the filter settings you'll get a sharp
<br\>>piercing sound on certian keys... not all keys... sometimes C, F# or
<br\>>G#. Then if you change the patch again it will make the noise on a
<br\>>different set of keys.  Sometimes it stops all together and works
<br\>>perfectly again.
<br\>
<br\>shift-lock, stuck paddle button or other keys can sometimes cause
<br\>stuff like this.  Also, this is probably not it, but the scale
<br\>doesn't extend as high as it should, so if you have "fifths" on when
<br\>you're in the highest octaves, you'll get some weird tones (this is a
<br\>known bug that I left in because I've found you can get some
<br\>interesting sounds out of it).
<br\>
<br\>I haven't tried the latest version on the C128, but my friend was
<br\>using a pre-release version on his 128 for shows for quite a
<br\>while.  He recently got the latest version, I'll see if he's had any
<br\>similar problems.
<br\>
<br\>What do you have to do to get rid of the odd tones on those
<br\>notes?  Does it stop doing it after a certain amount of time?  Or
<br\>does changing patches fix it?
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Rah, Im shocked of the amount of the problems bare peeps are having with this.
<br\>I've not had one
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Paul Slocum
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:25 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Cynthcart oddities
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   >Everything works perfectly most of the time, but sometimes when you
<br\>   >change patches or cycle the filter settings you'll get a sharp
<br\>   >piercing sound on certian keys... not all keys... sometimes C, F# or
<br\>   >G#. Then if you change the patch again it will make the noise on a
<br\>   >different set of keys.  Sometimes it stops all together and works
<br\>   >perfectly again.
<br\>
<br\>   shift-lock, stuck paddle button or other keys can sometimes cause
<br\>   stuff like this.  Also, this is probably not it, but the scale
<br\>   doesn't extend as high as it should, so if you have "fifths" on when
<br\>   you're in the highest octaves, you'll get some weird tones (this is a
<br\>   known bug that I left in because I've found you can get some
<br\>   interesting sounds out of it).
<br\>
<br\>   I haven't tried the latest version on the C128, but my friend was
<br\>   using a pre-release version on his 128 for shows for quite a
<br\>   while.  He recently got the latest version, I'll see if he's had any
<br\>   similar problems.
<br\>
<br\>   What do you have to do to get rid of the odd tones on those
<br\>   notes?  Does it stop doing it after a certain amount of time?  Or
<br\>   does changing patches fix it?
<br\>
<br\>   -paul
<br\>
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<br\>
That's what I say everytime someone I know has a problem in Linux. I'm
<br\>always like, I've never had that problem, everything I have ever set
<br\>up just works the first time, every time*.
<br\>
<br\>For all I know something could be messed up with this particular
<br\>Commodore. I have no other cartridges to test and no disk drive.
<br\>If I really feel like killing time I'll make some BASIC program to
<br\>test it.
<br\>
<br\>Unfortunately, I gave away my C64 so I can't test it on that.
<br\>
<br\>*From 2001 onwards, ignoring any pre-2001 problems. Also I haven't set
<br\>up OpenLDAP yet so we'll see if my winnig streak holds out.
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "ACEyBOX" <ace@a...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Rah, Im shocked of the amount of the problems bare peeps are having
<br\>with this. I've not had one
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
It's worse than before. Now, in addition to what it was doing C and E
<br\>are transposed and more notes make the high pitched sound. Curiously,
<br\>before it would change which keys didn't work depending on the patch.
<br\>Now they're the same ones.
<br\>
<br\>I don't have Caps Lock on, none of the keys stick, the paddle is not
<br\>plugged in (that does stick). When I get another Commodore I'll try it
<br\>on that. This one might just be janky.
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> >Everything works perfectly most of the time, but sometimes when you
<br\>> >change patches or cycle the filter settings you'll get a sharp
<br\>> >piercing sound on certian keys... not all keys... sometimes C, F#
<br\>or
<br\>> >G#. Then if you change the patch again it will make the noise on a
<br\>> >different set of keys.  Sometimes it stops all together and works
<br\>> >perfectly again.
<br\>>
<br\>> shift-lock, stuck paddle button or other keys can sometimes cause
<br\>> stuff like this.  Also, this is probably not it, but the scale
<br\>> doesn't extend as high as it should, so if you have "fifths" on when
<br\>> you're in the highest octaves, you'll get some weird tones (this is
<br\>a
<br\>> known bug that I left in because I've found you can get some
<br\>> interesting sounds out of it).
<br\>>
<br\>> I haven't tried the latest version on the C128, but my friend was
<br\>> using a pre-release version on his 128 for shows for quite a
<br\>> while.  He recently got the latest version, I'll see if he's had any
<br\>> similar problems.
<br\>>
<br\>> What do you have to do to get rid of the odd tones on those
<br\>> notes?  Does it stop doing it after a certain amount of time?  Or
<br\>> does changing patches fix it?
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Rah, Im shocked of the amount of the problems bare peeps are having
<br\>>with this. I've not had one
<br\>
<br\>C64s and SIDs in particular are not terribly reliable, especially
<br\>with the crappy power supplies that Commodore made.  One of the best
<br\>things you can do to improve reliability once you find a working C64
<br\>is to get a really good aftermarket power supply, or modify a C128
<br\>supply like I mentioned before.  Or make your own using an original
<br\>C64 supply for the 9VAC and a 5V laptop supply for the 5V.
<br\>
<br\>Fortunately, C64s are pretty cheap and abundant.
<br\>
<br\>And if you are using one of the crappy C64 power supplies, make sure
<br\>you unplug it when it's not in use.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>One of the best
<br\>>things you can do to improve reliability once you find a working C64
<br\>>is to get a really good aftermarket power supply,
<br\>>
<br\>     Hey Paul, is this a modern item you're talking about, or would this
<br\>be a replacement PSU from back in the day?
<br\>
<br\>>or modify a C128
<br\>>supply like I mentioned before.
<br\>>
<br\>     The thing is that C128 PSU's are WAY harder to find - at least in my
<br\>experience.  I'd hate to hack one as I'd think that I was denying
<br\>someone that precious 128 experience.  ;)
<br\>
<br\>>Or make your own using an original
<br\>>C64 supply for the 9VAC and a 5V laptop supply for the 5V.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     Eh, huh?  What's the 5V for?  Sorry, but this is likely a n00b
<br\>question that will get me kicked off this list.  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>     Hey Paul, is this a modern item you're talking about, or would this
<br\>>be a replacement PSU from back in the day?
<br\>
<br\>I have an old aftermarket one that's I got in the late 80's and still
<br\>works.  Some of the old non-Commodore ones are great.  NONE of the
<br\>Commodore brand C64 supplies are good.  The C128 supply is different
<br\>(it's a switching regulator).
<br\>
<br\>>     The thing is that C128 PSU's are WAY harder to find - at least in my
<br\>>experience.  I'd hate to hack one as I'd think that I was denying
<br\>>someone that precious 128 experience.  ;)
<br\>
<br\>At thrifts, but I think they show up on Ebay all the time.
<br\>
<br\>>     Eh, huh?  What's the 5V for?  Sorry, but this is likely a n00b
<br\>>question that will get me kicked off this list.  :)
<br\>
<br\>C64 requires 9 volts AC and 5 volts DC.  You can easily get 5VDC from
<br\>a modern laptop supply (must be regulated though! not a cheap wall
<br\>wart!).  But you can't easily get 9VAC from a modern supply.  So you
<br\>use the original C64 for the 9VAC since it's reliable, and use the
<br\>laptop supply for the 5VDC (which is the supply that goes out on the
<br\>original Commodore supplies and blows up your C64).  It will require
<br\>a little splicing/soldering but isn't that difficult.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i think i may be having problems that are due to power the power
<br\>supply.  Once the program is in ram i can play the synth for about
<br\>five minutes then the program freezes up and stops working.  I
<br\>pretty sure it is a psu problem because:
<br\>
<br\>1. i have tested a total of 4 c64s and they all do the same thing.
<br\>2. the same power supply was used for all four tests (its the only
<br\>one i have)
<br\>3. once the program is loaded i remove the cart from the c64.
<br\>
<br\>I guess i need make my own(not good because my soldering skills suck)
<br\>
<br\>It took me about three months to get a peep out of my c64 i guess
<br\>i'll have to wait a little longer to get more than five minutes of
<br\>peep out of her.  Those 5 minutes are great though...it sounds great!
<br\>
<br\>11hzrobot
<br\>
<br\>http:/11hzrobot.em411.com
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kersabrat1" <meow@m...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> OK, let me state first and foremost I am running this on a
<br\>Commodore
<br\>> 128.
<br\>>
<br\>> Everything works perfectly most of the time, but sometimes when
<br\>you
<br\>> change patches or cycle the filter settings you'll get a sharp
<br\>> piercing sound on certian keys... not all keys... sometimes C, F#
<br\>or
<br\>> G#. Then if you change the patch again it will make the noise on a
<br\>> different set of keys.  Sometimes it stops all together and works
<br\>> perfectly again.
<br\>>
<br\>> Any thoughts on what could be causing this? (Assuming it's not
<br\>some
<br\>> weird C128 thing?) I don't have any other Commodores to try the
<br\>cart
<br\>> on at this time.
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
this is mirroring my experience so far also..i'm on my 3rd c64...
<br\>still waiting for the 1st 5minutes of lovely chip sound though..
<br\>maybe when my new power supply arrives..
<br\>
<br\>j
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "11HzRobot" <11hzrobot@m...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> i think i may be having problems that are due to power the power
<br\>> supply.  Once the program is in ram i can play the synth for about
<br\>> five minutes then the program freezes up and stops working.  I
<br\>> pretty sure it is a psu problem because:
<br\>>
<br\>> 1. i have tested a total of 4 c64s and they all do the same thing.
<br\>> 2. the same power supply was used for all four tests (its the only
<br\>> one i have)
<br\>> 3. once the program is loaded i remove the cart from the c64.
<br\>>
<br\>> I guess i need make my own(not good because my soldering skills
<br\>suck)
<br\>>
<br\>> It took me about three months to get a peep out of my c64 i guess
<br\>> i'll have to wait a little longer to get more than five minutes of
<br\>> peep out of her.  Those 5 minutes are great though...it sounds
<br\>great!
<br\>>
<br\>> 11hzrobot
<br\>>
<br\>> http:/11hzrobot.em411.com
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kersabrat1" <meow@m...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > OK, let me state first and foremost I am running this on a
<br\>> Commodore
<br\>> > 128.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Everything works perfectly most of the time, but sometimes when
<br\>> you
<br\>> > change patches or cycle the filter settings you'll get a sharp
<br\>> > piercing sound on certian keys... not all keys... sometimes C, F#
<br\>> or
<br\>> > G#. Then if you change the patch again it will make the noise on
<br\>a
<br\>> > different set of keys.  Sometimes it stops all together and works
<br\>> > perfectly again.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Any thoughts on what could be causing this? (Assuming it's not
<br\>> some
<br\>> > weird C128 thing?) I don't have any other Commodores to try the
<br\>> cart
<br\>> > on at this time.
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
have you also tried 3 power supplies? or the same one for all 3 c64's?  I hope
<br\>it isn't to difficult to make one.  If anybody has the wiring diagram for that,
<br\>it would be great. 11http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On Wed 11/09, receptorsmusic
<br\>&lt; jeremy@ksine.com &gt; wrote:From: receptorsmusic [mailto:
<br\>jeremy@ksine.com]To: synthcart@yahoogroups.comDate: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:22:11
<br\>-0000Subject: [synthcart] Re: Cynthcart odditiesthis is mirroring my experience
<br\>so far also..i'm on my 3rd c64...still waiting for the 1st 5minutes of lovely
<br\>chip sound though..maybe when my new power supply arrives..j--- In
<br\>synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "11HzRobot" &lt;11hzrobot@m...&gt; wrote:&gt;&gt; i
<br\>think i may be having problems that are due to power the power &gt; supply. 
<br\>Once the program is in ram i can play the synth for about &gt; five minutes then
<br\>the program freezes up and stops working.  I &gt; pretty sure it is a psu
<br\>problem because: &gt; &gt; 1. i have tested a total of 4 c64s and they
<br\>all do the same thing.&gt; 2. the same power supply was used for all four tests
<br\>(its the only &gt; one i have)&gt; 3. once the program is loaded i remove the
<br\>cart from the c64.&gt; &gt; I guess i need make my own(not good because my
<br\>soldering skills suck)&gt; &gt; It took me about three months to get a peep out
<br\>of my c64 i guess &gt; i'll have to wait a little longer to get more than five
<br\>minutes of &gt; peep out of her.  Those 5 minutes are great though...it sounds
<br\>great!&gt; &gt; 11hzrobot&gt; &gt; http:/11hzrobot.em411.com&gt; &gt;  &gt; &gt;
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kersabrat1" wrote:&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; OK, let
<br\>me state first and foremost I am running this on a &gt; Commodore &gt; &gt;
<br\>128.&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Everything works perfectly most of the time, but
<br\>sometimes when &gt; you &gt; &gt; change patches or cycle the filter settings
<br\>you'll get a sharp &gt; &gt; piercing sound on certian keys... not all keys...
<br\>sometimes C, F# &gt; or &gt; &gt; G#. Then if you
<br\>change the patch again it will make the noise on a &gt; &gt; different set of
<br\>keys.  Sometimes it stops all together and works &gt; &gt; perfectly again.&gt;
<br\>&gt; &gt; &gt; Any thoughts on what could be causing this? (Assuming it's not
<br\>&gt; some &gt; &gt; weird C128 thing?) I don't have any other Commodores to try
<br\>the &gt; cart &gt; &gt; on at this time.&gt; &gt;&gt;
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What wiring are you looking for?
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- 11hzrobot <11hzrobot@myway.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>  have you also tried 3 power supplies? or the same
<br\>> one for all 3 c64's?  I hope it isn't to difficult
<br\>> to make one.  If anybody has the wiring diagram for
<br\>> that, it would be great.
<br\>> 11http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On Wed 11/09,
<br\>> receptorsmusic &lt; jeremy@ksine.com &gt;
<br\>> wrote:From: receptorsmusic [mailto:
<br\>> jeremy@ksine.com]To: synthcart@yahoogroups.comDate:
<br\>> Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:22:11 -0000Subject: [synthcart]
<br\>> Re: Cynthcart odditiesthis is mirroring my
<br\>> experience so far also..i'm on my 3rd c64...still
<br\>> waiting for the 1st 5minutes of lovely chip sound
<br\>> though..maybe when my new power supply arrives..j---
<br\>> In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "11HzRobot"
<br\>> &lt;11hzrobot@m...&gt; wrote:&gt;&gt; i think i may
<br\>> be having problems that are due to power the power
<br\>> &gt; supply.  Once the program is in ram i can play
<br\>> the synth for about &gt; five minutes then the
<br\>> program freezes up and stops working.  I &gt; pretty
<br\>> sure it is a psu problem because: &gt; &gt; 1. i
<br\>> have tested a total of 4 c64s and they
<br\>> all do the same thing.&gt; 2. the same power supply
<br\>> was used for all four tests (its the only &gt; one i
<br\>> have)&gt; 3. once the program is loaded i remove the
<br\>> cart from the c64.&gt; &gt; I guess i need make my
<br\>> own(not good because my soldering skills suck)&gt;
<br\>> &gt; It took me about three months to get a peep out
<br\>> of my c64 i guess &gt; i'll have to wait a little
<br\>> longer to get more than five minutes of &gt; peep
<br\>> out of her.  Those 5 minutes are great though...it
<br\>> sounds great!&gt; &gt; 11hzrobot&gt; &gt;
<br\>> http:/11hzrobot.em411.com&gt; &gt;  &gt; &gt; --- In
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<br\>> &gt;&gt; &gt; OK, let me state first and foremost I
<br\>> am running this on a &gt; Commodore &gt; &gt;
<br\>> 128.&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Everything works perfectly
<br\>> most of the time, but sometimes when &gt; you &gt;
<br\>> &gt; change patches or cycle the filter settings
<br\>> you'll get a sharp &gt; &gt; piercing sound on
<br\>> certian keys... not all keys... sometimes C, F# &gt;
<br\>> or &gt; &gt; G#. Then if you
<br\>> change the patch again it will make the noise on a
<br\>> &gt; &gt; different set of keys.  Sometimes it stops
<br\>> all together and works &gt; &gt; perfectly
<br\>> again.&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Any thoughts on what could
<br\>> be causing this? (Assuming it's not &gt; some &gt;
<br\>> &gt; weird C128 thing?) I don't have any other
<br\>> Commodores to try the &gt; cart &gt; &gt; on at this
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the wiring for the power supply.  The end that goes into the c64 so i can try
<br\>using a laptop battery+c64 psu trick that paul was talking
<br\>about.http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On Wed 11/09, Jesse Smith &lt;
<br\>stoi2m1@yahoo.com &gt; wrote:
<br\>From: Jesse Smith [mailto: stoi2m1@yahoo.com]To: synthcart@yahoogroups.comDate:
<br\>Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:46:02 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: Cynthcart
<br\>odditiesWhat wiring are you looking for?Jesse--- 11hzrobot
<br\>&lt;11hzrobot@myway.com&gt; wrote:&gt;  have you also tried 3 power supplies? or
<br\>the same&gt; one for all 3 c64's?  I hope it isn't to difficult&gt; to make one.
<br\>If anybody has the wiring diagram for&gt; that, it would be great.&gt;
<br\>11http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On Wed 11/09,&gt; receptorsmusic &lt;
<br\>jeremy@ksine.com &gt;&gt; wrote:From: receptorsmusic [mailto:&gt;
<br\>jeremy@ksine.com]To: synthcart@yahoogroups.comDate:&gt; Wed, 09 Nov 2005
<br\>15:22:11 -0000Subject: [synthcart]&gt; Re: Cynthcart odditiesthis is mirroring
<br\>my&gt; experience so far also..i'm on my 3rd c64...still&gt; waiting for the 1st
<br\>5minutes of lovely chip sound&gt; though..maybe when my new power supply
<br\>arrives..j---&gt; In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "11HzRobot"&gt;
<br\>&lt;11hzrobot@m...&gt; wrote:&gt;&gt; i think i may&gt; be
<br\>having problems that are due to power the power&gt; &gt; supply. Once the
<br\>program is in ram i can play&gt; the synth for about &gt; five minutes then
<br\>the&gt; program freezes up and stops working. I &gt; pretty&gt; sure it is
<br\>a psu problem because: &gt; &gt; 1. i&gt; have tested a total of 4 c64s
<br\>and they &gt; all do the same thing.&gt; 2. the same power supply&gt; was
<br\>used for all four tests (its the only &gt; one i&gt; have)&gt; 3. once
<br\>the program is loaded i remove the&gt; cart from the c64.&gt; &gt; I
<br\>guess i need make my&gt; own(not good because my soldering skills
<br\>suck)&gt;&gt; &gt; It took me about three months to get a peep out&gt;
<br\>of my c64 i guess &gt; i'll have to wait a little&gt; longer to get more
<br\>than five minutes of &gt; peep&gt; out of her. Those 5 minutes are great
<br\>though...it&gt; sounds great!&gt; &gt;
<br\>11hzrobot&gt; &gt;&gt; http:/11hzrobot.em411.com&gt; &gt;
<br\>&gt; &gt; --- In&gt; synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kersabrat1"
<br\>wrote:&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; OK, let me state first and foremost
<br\>I&gt; am running this on a &gt; Commodore &gt; &gt;&gt; 128.&gt;
<br\>&gt; &gt; &gt; Everything works perfectly&gt; most of the time, but
<br\>sometimes when &gt; you &gt;&gt; &gt; change patches or cycle the
<br\>filter settings&gt; you'll get a sharp &gt; &gt; piercing sound on&gt;
<br\>certian keys... not all keys... sometimes C, F# &gt;&gt; or &gt;
<br\>&gt; G#. Then if you &gt; change the patch again it will make the noise on
<br\>a&gt; &gt; &gt; different set of keys. Sometimes it stops&gt; all
<br\>together and works &gt; &gt; perfectly&gt; again.&gt; &gt;
<br\>&gt; &gt; Any thoughts on what could&gt; be causing this? (Assuming it's
<br\>not &gt; some &gt;&gt; &gt; weird C128 thing?) I
<br\>don't have any other&gt; Commodores to try the &gt; cart &gt; &gt;
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>  the wiring for the power supply.  The end that goes into the c64
<br\>> so i can try using a laptop battery+c64 psu trick that paul was talking about.
<br\>
<br\>I don't have the wiring, but it's easy to figure out with a volt meter.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
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thanks. this should help. I'm going to take these pics along with my faulty psu
<br\>and my c64 to a local electronics store and see if i can get some help with this
<br\>little project. http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On Wed 11/09, Daniel O'Shea &lt;
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Had a chance to test it on some C=64s and it worked great. The problem
<br\>is specific to that particular C=128.
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kersabrat1" <meow@m...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> It's worse than before. Now, in addition to what it was doing C and
<br\>E
<br\>> are transposed and more notes make the high pitched sound.
<br\>Curiously,
<br\>> before it would change which keys didn't work depending on the
<br\>patch.
<br\>> Now they're the same ones.
<br\>>
<br\>> I don't have Caps Lock on, none of the keys stick, the paddle is not
<br\>> plugged in (that does stick). When I get another Commodore I'll try
<br\>it
<br\>> on that. This one might just be janky.
<br\>>
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<br\>
Here is the Pinout of the P/S at from the console
<br\>view:
<br\>http://www.technick.net/public/code/cp_dpage.php?aiocp_dp=pinconmis_c64_power
<br\>
<br\>Good Luck with things,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- 11hzrobot <11hzrobot@myway.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>  thanks. this should help. I'm going to take these
<br\>> pics along with my faulty psu and my c64 to a local
<br\>> electronics store and see if i can get some help
<br\>> with this little project.
<br\>> http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On Wed 11/09, Daniel
<br\>> O'Shea &lt; dan@ozramp.net.au &gt; wrote:From:
<br\>> Daniel O'Shea [mailto: dan@ozramp.net.au]To:
<br\>> synthcart@yahoogroups.comDate: Thu, 10 Nov 2005
<br\>> 04:14:53 -0000Subject: [synthcart] wiring for the
<br\>> power supply (was Re: Cynthcart
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thanks jesse.http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On Thu 11/10, Jesse Smith &lt;
<br\>stoi2m1@yahoo.com &gt; wrote:
<br\>From: Jesse Smith [mailto: stoi2m1@yahoo.com]To: synthcart@yahoogroups.comDate:
<br\>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:02:18 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [synthcart] wiring for the
<br\>power supply (was Re: Cynthcart oddities)Here is the Pinout of the P/S at from
<br\>the
<br\>consoleview:http://www.technick.net/public/code/cp_dpage.php?aiocp_dp=pinconmis_\
<br\>c64_powerGood Luck with things,Jesse--- 11hzrobot &lt;11hzrobot@myway.com&gt;
<br\>wrote:&gt;  thanks. this should help. I'm going to take these&gt; pics along
<br\>with my faulty psu and my c64 to a local&gt; electronics store and see if i can
<br\>get some help&gt; with this little project.&gt; http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On
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<br\>Thu, 10 Nov 2005&gt; 04:14:53 -0000Subject: [synthcart] wiring for the&gt; power
<br\>supply (was Re:
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(edited by jeremy)
<br\>
<br\>ok, i got a custom commodore 64 power supply delivers 9vac @ 5 amps &
<br\>5vdc @ 8.0 amps...
<br\>
<br\>this is the 3rd c64 (one fried now apparently by shitty c64 power
<br\>supply, wish i did my research better up front and knew that ahead of
<br\>time!) and 2nd Cynthcart i've tried and i cannot get anything but a
<br\>noisy buzzing sound out of any of these..what am i doing wrong? The
<br\>video displays perfectly and i can hear distant filter sweeps
<br\>responding
<br\>to the Cynthcart controlls...
<br\>
<br\>what started as a $30 investment and a free C64 is up to almost
<br\>$150 worth of crap i've got to make this work..i'm about ready to give
<br\>up, though i so badly don't want to..
<br\>what's my next step?
<br\>
<br\>why i'm so obbsessed with when i own a Sidstation i don't know...the
<br\>aesthetics i guess..hehe
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
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Message:
<br\>
I have an extra C64, Ive purchased a total of 5 going
<br\>through the same issues as you. My first 2 ended up
<br\>junk, the first has the buzz/hum when keys are pressed
<br\>similar to one of the results you have had. The second
<br\>works on certain filter settings in Cynthcart,
<br\>possibly from one or more of the oscillators being
<br\>bad. The recent 3 that I have recieved, after
<br\>isolationg the power supplys of the previous 2, all
<br\>work fine.
<br\>
<br\>I know its very nerve racking to keep at it and seem
<br\>to be getting no where. But I think its the drive to
<br\>create that pushes us to the verge of accomplishment.
<br\>If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks I
<br\>can part with one and only one for $15 plus shipping.
<br\>I can Guarantee this one is in working condition with
<br\>the power supply that I send you.
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- receptorsmusic <jeremy@ksine.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> (edited by jeremy)
<br\>>
<br\>> ok, i got a custom commodore 64 power supply
<br\>> delivers 9vac @ 5 amps &
<br\>> 5vdc @ 8.0 amps...
<br\>>
<br\>> this is the 3rd c64 (one fried now apparently by
<br\>> shitty c64 power
<br\>> supply, wish i did my research better up front and
<br\>> knew that ahead of
<br\>> time!) and 2nd Cynthcart i've tried and i cannot get
<br\>> anything but a
<br\>> noisy buzzing sound out of any of these..what am i
<br\>> doing wrong? The
<br\>> video displays perfectly and i can hear distant
<br\>> filter sweeps
<br\>> responding
<br\>> to the Cynthcart controlls...
<br\>>
<br\>> what started as a $30 investment and a free C64 is
<br\>> up to almost
<br\>> $150 worth of crap i've got to make this work..i'm
<br\>> about ready to give
<br\>> up, though i so badly don't want to..
<br\>> what's my next step?
<br\>>
<br\>> why i'm so obbsessed with when i own a Sidstation i
<br\>> don't know...the
<br\>> aesthetics i guess..hehe
<br\>>
<br\>> jeremy
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks I
<br\>> can part with one and only one for $15 plus shipping.
<br\>> I can Guarantee this one is in working condition with
<br\>> the power supply that I send you.
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>man you rock! send me your paypal and the total, thanks man...
<br\>yeh it's like you said, it's the unique experience of creating this
<br\>way too.. i own a  Sidstation, but it's the Commodore aesthetic i
<br\>want to experience too while creating..
<br\>
<br\>..you can email me offlist at jeremy@ksine.com
<br\>
<br\>thanks again
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I have an extra C64, Ive purchased a total of 5 going
<br\>> through the same issues as you. My first 2 ended up
<br\>> junk, the first has the buzz/hum when keys are pressed
<br\>> similar to one of the results you have had. The second
<br\>> works on certain filter settings in Cynthcart,
<br\>> possibly from one or more of the oscillators being
<br\>> bad. The recent 3 that I have recieved, after
<br\>> isolationg the power supplys of the previous 2, all
<br\>> work fine.
<br\>>
<br\>> I know its very nerve racking to keep at it and seem
<br\>> to be getting no where. But I think its the drive to
<br\>> create that pushes us to the verge of accomplishment.
<br\>> If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks I
<br\>> can part with one and only one for $15 plus shipping.
<br\>> I can Guarantee this one is in working condition with
<br\>> the power supply that I send you.
<br\>>
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>> --- receptorsmusic <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > (edited by jeremy)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > ok, i got a custom commodore 64 power supply
<br\>> > delivers 9vac @ 5 amps &
<br\>> > 5vdc @ 8.0 amps...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > this is the 3rd c64 (one fried now apparently by
<br\>> > shitty c64 power
<br\>> > supply, wish i did my research better up front and
<br\>> > knew that ahead of
<br\>> > time!) and 2nd Cynthcart i've tried and i cannot get
<br\>> > anything but a
<br\>> > noisy buzzing sound out of any of these..what am i
<br\>> > doing wrong? The
<br\>> > video displays perfectly and i can hear distant
<br\>> > filter sweeps
<br\>> > responding
<br\>> > to the Cynthcart controlls...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > what started as a $30 investment and a free C64 is
<br\>> > up to almost
<br\>> > $150 worth of crap i've got to make this work..i'm
<br\>> > about ready to give
<br\>> > up, though i so badly don't want to..
<br\>> > what's my next step?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > why i'm so obbsessed with when i own a Sidstation i
<br\>> > don't know...the
<br\>> > aesthetics i guess..hehe
<br\>> >
<br\>> > jeremy
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
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i hear you man.  I've been trying to get one of the 4 c64s i have to make a
<br\>cynthcart generated sound.  six months later i get 5 minutes of sound.  If the
<br\>new power supply doesn't work i am scrapping the idea and sticking to my old
<br\>reliables: gameboys.  This whole c64 thing is making me appreciate the old
<br\>grey+lsdj more and more...so much goodness pumping out of an object smaller than
<br\>the power supply of the c64.  got to love it. http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On
<br\>Fri 11/18, receptorsmusic &lt; jeremy@ksine.com &gt; wrote:From: receptorsmusic
<br\>[mailto: jeremy@ksine.com]To: synthcart@yahoogroups.comDate: Fri, 18 Nov 2005
<br\>16:47:05 -0000Subject: [synthcart] Re: the sound of a towel being thrown
<br\>in?Jesse Smith wrote:&gt; If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks
<br\>I&gt; can part with one and only one for $15 plus shipping.&gt; I can Guarantee
<br\>this one is in working condition with&gt; the power supply that I send you.&gt;
<br\>man you rock! send me your paypal and the total, thanks
<br\>man...yeh it's like you said, it's the unique experience of creating this way
<br\>too.. i own a  Sidstation, but it's the Commodore aesthetic i want to experience
<br\>too while creating....you can email me offlist at jeremy@ksine.comthanks
<br\>againjeremy--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith wrote:&gt;&gt; I have
<br\>an extra C64, Ive purchased a total of 5 going&gt; through the same issues as
<br\>you. My first 2 ended up&gt; junk, the first has the buzz/hum when keys are
<br\>pressed&gt; similar to one of the results you have had. The second&gt; works on
<br\>certain filter settings in Cynthcart,&gt; possibly from one or more of the
<br\>oscillators being&gt; bad. The recent 3 that I have recieved, after&gt;
<br\>isolationg the power supplys of the previous 2, all&gt; work fine.&gt; &gt; I
<br\>know its very nerve racking to keep at it and seem&gt; to be getting no where.
<br\>But I think its the drive to&gt; create that pushes us to the verge of
<br\>accomplishment.&gt; If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks
<br\>I&gt; can part with one and only one for $15 plus shipping.&gt; I can Guarantee
<br\>this one is in working condition with&gt; the power supply that I send you.&gt;
<br\>&gt; Jesse&gt; &gt; --- receptorsmusic wrote:&gt; &gt; &gt; (edited by
<br\>jeremy)&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ok, i got a custom commodore 64 power supply&gt; &gt;
<br\>delivers 9vac @ 5 amps &&gt; &gt; 5vdc @ 8.0 amps...&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; this
<br\>is the 3rd c64 (one fried now apparently by&gt; &gt; shitty c64 power&gt; &gt;
<br\>supply, wish i did my research better up front and&gt; &gt; knew that ahead
<br\>of&gt; &gt; time!) and 2nd Cynthcart i've tried and i cannot get&gt; &gt;
<br\>anything but a&gt; &gt; noisy buzzing sound out of any of these..what am i&gt;
<br\>&gt; doing wrong? The&gt; &gt; video displays perfectly and i can hear
<br\>distant&gt; &gt; filter sweeps &gt; &gt; responding&gt; &gt; to the Cynthcart
<br\>controlls...&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; what started as a $30 investment and a free C64
<br\>is&gt; &gt; up to almost&gt; &gt; $150 worth of crap i've
<br\>got to make this work..i'm&gt; &gt; about ready to give&gt; &gt; up, though i so
<br\>badly don't want to..&gt; &gt; what's my next step?&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; why i'm
<br\>so obbsessed with when i own a Sidstation i&gt; &gt; don't know...the&gt; &gt;
<br\>aesthetics i guess..hehe&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; jeremy&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
<br\>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
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i have a power supply from a vic.  Is there a way to modify it to make
<br\>it work with a c64 and if so are they as unreliable as the c64 psu?
<br\>thanks.
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>i have a power supply from a vic.  Is there a way to modify it to make
<br\>>it work with a c64 and if so are they as unreliable as the c64 psu?
<br\>
<br\>IIRC, the vic-20 supply is different and can't be modified to work
<br\>with the C64.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
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damn.  oh well back to the drawing board.http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On Sun
<br\>11/20, Paul Slocum &lt; paul@treewave.com &gt; wrote:
<br\>From: Paul Slocum [mailto: paul@treewave.com]To: synthcart@yahoogroups.comDate:
<br\>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:49:02 -0600Subject: Re: [synthcart] vic20&gt;i have a power
<br\>supply from a vic.  Is there a way to modify it to make&gt;it work with a c64
<br\>and if so are they as unreliable as the c64 psu?IIRC, the vic-20 supply is
<br\>different and can't be modified to work with the C64.-paul
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there were two models of the VIC20, one that has the same DIN power
<br\>supply connector as the C64 which can run on a C64 power supply
<br\>(worked for me) and one that has a different weird connector that
<br\>won't... just be careful not to fry your VIC with a bad C64 power
<br\>supply! go to groups.google.com and do a search for 'vic20 c64 power
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Ok, Finally I have gotton my computer to work with Cynthcart, and Damn is it
<br\>great. But
<br\>here's a few questions.  What is MUTE mode for?  Is this for patching external
<br\>sounds
<br\>through the lfo or something?  Do you suggest taking the out directly off of the
<br\>chip and
<br\>adding an audio out OR modding a midi cable into an audio cable from the Video
<br\>output
<br\>port in the back?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks for any info.  I now have a matte black c64 which will have the keyboard
<br\>overlay
<br\>bolted on and will soon (hopefully) will have the best c64 add-on for cynthcart.
<br\>- kBud
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Message:
<br\>
>Ok, Finally I have gotton my computer to work with Cynthcart, and
<br\>>Damn is it great. But
<br\>>here's a few questions.  What is MUTE mode for?  Is this for
<br\>>patching external sounds
<br\>>through the lfo or something?
<br\>
<br\>The c64 is pretty noisy, so I use mute to get rid of the background
<br\>noise when I'm not using it.  Also sometimes to make sure it doesn't
<br\>make sound if I accidentally hit a key.
<br\>
<br\>I haven't tried patching external sounds through (be careful, it's
<br\>easy to blow your SID this way!)  But it should work with any sound
<br\>that uses the filter.
<br\>
<br\>>   Do you suggest taking the out directly off of the chip and
<br\>>adding an audio out OR modding a midi cable into an audio cable from
<br\>>the Video output
<br\>>port in the back?
<br\>
<br\>I've never taken it directly off the chip, seems easier to use the
<br\>built-in output.  Easiest way is just to get an A/V cable, but a midi
<br\>cable works well too.  I use one of each in my setup.
<br\>
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Subject:
the sound of chip bliss.(formerly :the sound of a towel being thrown in?)

SubjectSrt:
the sound of chip bliss.(formerly :the sound of a towel being thrown in?)

Message:
<br\>
My *new best friend Jesse Smith* has supplied me with a working C64 &
<br\>power supply (my 4th try finding one!)and I have seen and heard the
<br\>magnificent light and sound of the Cynthcart! I can die happily now ;)
<br\>So far I predict an onrush of new inspiration thanks to Lord Slocum's
<br\>wonderful device.I'm hearing some nice thck shoegazey sounds with
<br\>textures that pull at one's heartstrings and distortions that make
<br\>one's skin bristle and get's square waves absorbed by your bone
<br\>marrow...
<br\>
<br\>thanks Paul! (& Jesse!)
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I have an extra C64, Ive purchased a total of 5 going
<br\>> through the same issues as you. My first 2 ended up
<br\>> junk, the first has the buzz/hum when keys are pressed
<br\>> similar to one of the results you have had. The second
<br\>> works on certain filter settings in Cynthcart,
<br\>> possibly from one or more of the oscillators being
<br\>> bad. The recent 3 that I have recieved, after
<br\>> isolationg the power supplys of the previous 2, all
<br\>> work fine.
<br\>>
<br\>> I know its very nerve racking to keep at it and seem
<br\>> to be getting no where. But I think its the drive to
<br\>> create that pushes us to the verge of accomplishment.
<br\>> If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks I
<br\>> can part with one and only one for $15 plus shipping.
<br\>> I can Guarantee this one is in working condition with
<br\>> the power supply that I send you.
<br\>>
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>> --- receptorsmusic <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > (edited by jeremy)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > ok, i got a custom commodore 64 power supply
<br\>> > delivers 9vac @ 5 amps &
<br\>> > 5vdc @ 8.0 amps...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > this is the 3rd c64 (one fried now apparently by
<br\>> > shitty c64 power
<br\>> > supply, wish i did my research better up front and
<br\>> > knew that ahead of
<br\>> > time!) and 2nd Cynthcart i've tried and i cannot get
<br\>> > anything but a
<br\>> > noisy buzzing sound out of any of these..what am i
<br\>> > doing wrong? The
<br\>> > video displays perfectly and i can hear distant
<br\>> > filter sweeps
<br\>> > responding
<br\>> > to the Cynthcart controlls...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > what started as a $30 investment and a free C64 is
<br\>> > up to almost
<br\>> > $150 worth of crap i've got to make this work..i'm
<br\>> > about ready to give
<br\>> > up, though i so badly don't want to..
<br\>> > what's my next step?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > why i'm so obbsessed with when i own a Sidstation i
<br\>> > don't know...the
<br\>> > aesthetics i guess..hehe
<br\>> >
<br\>> > jeremy
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
Re: the sound of chip bliss.(formerly :the sound of a towel being thrown in?)

Message:
<br\>
Im happy to hear that you recieved you machine in good
<br\>working condition. I do want to say that you shouldnt
<br\>have to much faith in your power supply, and dont get
<br\>it mixed up with any of your other ones, until you
<br\>have tested them. I am looking to find a more
<br\>stable(reliable) 5 volt suppply per the suggestion of
<br\>many, possibly using Pauls suggestion of a laptop
<br\>power supply.
<br\>
<br\>Well Good Luck with things,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- receptorsmusic <jeremy@ksine.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> My *new best friend Jesse Smith* has supplied me
<br\>> with a working C64 &
<br\>> power supply (my 4th try finding one!)and I have
<br\>> seen and heard the
<br\>> magnificent light and sound of the Cynthcart! I can
<br\>> die happily now ;)
<br\>> So far I predict an onrush of new inspiration thanks
<br\>> to Lord Slocum's
<br\>> wonderful device.I'm hearing some nice thck
<br\>> shoegazey sounds with
<br\>> textures that pull at one's heartstrings and
<br\>> distortions that make
<br\>> one's skin bristle and get's square waves absorbed
<br\>> by your bone
<br\>> marrow...
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks Paul! (& Jesse!)
<br\>>
<br\>> jeremy
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith
<br\>> <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I have an extra C64, Ive purchased a total of 5
<br\>> going
<br\>> > through the same issues as you. My first 2 ended
<br\>> up
<br\>> > junk, the first has the buzz/hum when keys are
<br\>> pressed
<br\>> > similar to one of the results you have had. The
<br\>> second
<br\>> > works on certain filter settings in Cynthcart,
<br\>> > possibly from one or more of the oscillators being
<br\>> > bad. The recent 3 that I have recieved, after
<br\>> > isolationg the power supplys of the previous 2,
<br\>> all
<br\>> > work fine.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I know its very nerve racking to keep at it and
<br\>> seem
<br\>> > to be getting no where. But I think its the drive
<br\>> to
<br\>> > create that pushes us to the verge of
<br\>> accomplishment.
<br\>> > If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks
<br\>> I
<br\>> > can part with one and only one for $15 plus
<br\>> shipping.
<br\>> > I can Guarantee this one is in working condition
<br\>> with
<br\>> > the power supply that I send you.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Jesse
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- receptorsmusic <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > (edited by jeremy)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > ok, i got a custom commodore 64 power supply
<br\>> > > delivers 9vac @ 5 amps &
<br\>> > > 5vdc @ 8.0 amps...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > this is the 3rd c64 (one fried now apparently by
<br\>> > > shitty c64 power
<br\>> > > supply, wish i did my research better up front
<br\>> and
<br\>> > > knew that ahead of
<br\>> > > time!) and 2nd Cynthcart i've tried and i cannot
<br\>> get
<br\>> > > anything but a
<br\>> > > noisy buzzing sound out of any of these..what am
<br\>> i
<br\>> > > doing wrong? The
<br\>> > > video displays perfectly and i can hear distant
<br\>> > > filter sweeps
<br\>> > > responding
<br\>> > > to the Cynthcart controlls...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > what started as a $30 investment and a free C64
<br\>> is
<br\>> > > up to almost
<br\>> > > $150 worth of crap i've got to make this
<br\>> work..i'm
<br\>> > > about ready to give
<br\>> > > up, though i so badly don't want to..
<br\>> > > what's my next step?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > why i'm so obbsessed with when i own a
<br\>> Sidstation i
<br\>> > > don't know...the
<br\>> > > aesthetics i guess..hehe
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > jeremy
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>My *new best friend Jesse Smith* has supplied me with a working C64 &
<br\>>power supply (my 4th try finding one!)and I have seen and heard the
<br\>>magnificent light and sound of the Cynthcart! I can die happily now ;)
<br\>
<br\>awesome, glad you finally got it working.  ;o)  sorry for the
<br\>trouble, I wish the C64 was more stable.  I think getting a better
<br\>power supply is the key.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Subject:
RE: the sound of chip bliss.(formerly :the sound of a towel being thrown in?)

Message:
<br\>
great to hear you finally done it!!!
<br\>
<br\>:)
<br\>
<br\>all of us should have a Jesse ;)
<br\>
<br\>oh, many of us has.
<br\>Mine is called Jeremy.
<br\>
<br\>greetz. Ignacio.
<br\>
<br\>  --- receptorsmusic <jeremy@ksine.com> escribió:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> My *new best friend Jesse Smith* has supplied me with a working C64 &
<br\>> power supply (my 4th try finding one!)and I have seen and heard the
<br\>> magnificent light and sound of the Cynthcart! I can die happily now ;)
<br\>> So far I predict an onrush of new inspiration thanks to Lord Slocum's
<br\>> wonderful device.I'm hearing some nice thck shoegazey sounds with
<br\>> textures that pull at one's heartstrings and distortions that make
<br\>> one's skin bristle and get's square waves absorbed by your bone
<br\>> marrow...
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks Paul! (& Jesse!)
<br\>>
<br\>> jeremy
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I have an extra C64, Ive purchased a total of 5 going
<br\>> > through the same issues as you. My first 2 ended up
<br\>> > junk, the first has the buzz/hum when keys are pressed
<br\>> > similar to one of the results you have had. The second
<br\>> > works on certain filter settings in Cynthcart,
<br\>> > possibly from one or more of the oscillators being
<br\>> > bad. The recent 3 that I have recieved, after
<br\>> > isolationg the power supplys of the previous 2, all
<br\>> > work fine.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I know its very nerve racking to keep at it and seem
<br\>> > to be getting no where. But I think its the drive to
<br\>> > create that pushes us to the verge of accomplishment.
<br\>> > If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks I
<br\>> > can part with one and only one for $15 plus shipping.
<br\>> > I can Guarantee this one is in working condition with
<br\>> > the power supply that I send you.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Jesse
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- receptorsmusic <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > (edited by jeremy)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > ok, i got a custom commodore 64 power supply
<br\>> > > delivers 9vac @ 5 amps &
<br\>> > > 5vdc @ 8.0 amps...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > this is the 3rd c64 (one fried now apparently by
<br\>> > > shitty c64 power
<br\>> > > supply, wish i did my research better up front and
<br\>> > > knew that ahead of
<br\>> > > time!) and 2nd Cynthcart i've tried and i cannot get
<br\>> > > anything but a
<br\>> > > noisy buzzing sound out of any of these..what am i
<br\>> > > doing wrong? The
<br\>> > > video displays perfectly and i can hear distant
<br\>> > > filter sweeps
<br\>> > > responding
<br\>> > > to the Cynthcart controlls...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > what started as a $30 investment and a free C64 is
<br\>> > > up to almost
<br\>> > > $150 worth of crap i've got to make this work..i'm
<br\>> > > about ready to give
<br\>> > > up, though i so badly don't want to..
<br\>> > > what's my next step?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > why i'm so obbsessed with when i own a Sidstation i
<br\>> > > don't know...the
<br\>> > > aesthetics i guess..hehe
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > jeremy
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
keep us posted on possible power supply alternatives.  I am still working on
<br\>getting one going. http://11hzrobot.em411.com--- On Sat 11/26, Jesse Smith &lt;
<br\>stoi2m1@yahoo.com &gt; wrote:From: Jesse Smith [mailto: stoi2m1@yahoo.com]To:
<br\>synthcart@yahoogroups.comDate: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:31:01 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re:
<br\>[synthcart] the sound of chip bliss.(formerly :the sound of a towel being thrown
<br\>in?)Im happy to hear that you recieved you machine in goodworking condition. I
<br\>do want to say that you shouldnthave to much faith in your power supply, and
<br\>dont getit mixed up with any of your other ones, until youhave tested them. I am
<br\>looking to find a morestable(reliable) 5 volt suppply per the suggestion ofmany,
<br\>possibly using Pauls suggestion of a laptoppower supply. Well Good Luck with
<br\>things,Jesse--- receptorsmusic wrote:&gt; &gt; My *new best friend Jesse Smith*
<br\>has supplied me&gt; with a working C64 & &gt; power supply (my 4th try
<br\>finding one!)and I have&gt; seen and heard
<br\>the &gt; magnificent light and sound of the Cynthcart! I can&gt; die happily now
<br\>;)&gt; So far I predict an onrush of new inspiration thanks&gt; to Lord Slocum's
<br\>&gt; wonderful device.I'm hearing some nice thck&gt; shoegazey sounds with &gt;
<br\>textures that pull at one's heartstrings and&gt; distortions that make &gt;
<br\>one's skin bristle and get's square waves absorbed&gt; by your bone &gt;
<br\>marrow...&gt; &gt; thanks Paul! (& Jesse!)&gt; &gt; jeremy&gt; &gt; &gt;
<br\>http://receptorsmusic.com&gt; &gt; &gt; --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse
<br\>Smith&gt; wrote:&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; I have an extra C64, Ive purchased a total of
<br\>5&gt; going&gt; &gt; through the same issues as you. My first 2 ended&gt; up&gt;
<br\>&gt; junk, the first has the buzz/hum when keys are&gt; pressed&gt; &gt; similar
<br\>to one of the results you have had. The&gt; second&gt; &gt; works on certain
<br\>filter settings in Cynthcart,&gt; &gt; possibly from one or more of the
<br\>oscillators being&gt; &gt; bad. The recent 3 that
<br\>I have recieved, after&gt; &gt; isolationg the power supplys of the previous
<br\>2,&gt; all&gt; &gt; work fine.&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I know its very nerve racking
<br\>to keep at it and&gt; seem&gt; &gt; to be getting no where. But I think its the
<br\>drive&gt; to&gt; &gt; create that pushes us to the verge of&gt;
<br\>accomplishment.&gt; &gt; If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks&gt;
<br\>I&gt; &gt; can part with one and only one for $15 plus&gt; shipping.&gt; &gt; I
<br\>can Guarantee this one is in working condition&gt; with&gt; &gt; the power
<br\>supply that I send you.&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Jesse&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ---
<br\>receptorsmusic wrote:&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (edited by jeremy)&gt; &gt; &gt;
<br\>&gt; &gt; &gt; ok, i got a custom commodore 64 power supply&gt; &gt; &gt;
<br\>delivers 9vac @ 5 amps &&gt; &gt; &gt; 5vdc @ 8.0 amps...&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
<br\>&gt; &gt; this is the 3rd c64 (one fried now apparently by&gt; &gt; &gt; shitty
<br\>c64 power&gt; &gt; &gt; supply, wish i did my research better up
<br\>front&gt; and&gt; &gt; &gt; knew that ahead of&gt; &gt; &gt; time!) and 2nd
<br\>Cynthcart i've tried and i cannot&gt; get&gt; &gt; &gt; anything but a&gt; &gt;
<br\>&gt; noisy buzzing sound out of any of these..what am&gt; i&gt; &gt; &gt; doing
<br\>wrong? The&gt; &gt; &gt; video displays perfectly and i can hear distant&gt;
<br\>&gt; &gt; filter sweeps &gt; &gt; &gt; responding&gt; &gt; &gt; to the Cynthcart
<br\>controlls...&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; what started as a $30 investment and a
<br\>free C64&gt; is&gt; &gt; &gt; up to almost&gt; &gt; &gt; $150 worth of crap i've
<br\>got to make this&gt; work..i'm&gt; &gt; &gt; about ready to give&gt; &gt; &gt;
<br\>up, though i so badly don't want to..&gt; &gt; &gt; what's my next step?&gt;
<br\>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; why i'm so obbsessed with when i own a&gt; Sidstation
<br\>i&gt; &gt; &gt; don't know...the&gt; &gt; &gt; aesthetics i guess..hehe&gt; &gt;
<br\>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; jeremy&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
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--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "waxedapple2" <cm24@b...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >I just got my cynthcart in the post today. I am using it with a
<br\>> pal c64
<br\>> > >(newer version). I have a srange problem with it. I get a an
<br\>> extrememy
<br\>> > >low sound output when I press a note, about the same level as the
<br\>> > >backgroung noise. But when I press two notes at once I get the
<br\>full
<br\>> > >loud normal output. When I turn on fiths I also get a good
<br\>output
<br\>> from
<br\>> > >pressing just one note.  but I dont get the original note plus a
<br\>> fith,
<br\>> > >just the fith on its own ??
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I'm not sure what this or the other low volume problem could be.
<br\>> Maybe be
<br\>> > some obscure problem with the SID.  Maybe a bad external input
<br\>> (which is
<br\>> > enabled w/ the Cynthcart) or a filter problem.  I would try
<br\>setting
<br\>> the
<br\>> > volume at max and see if that helps (press =).  And maybe fiddle
<br\>> with the
<br\>> > filter settings and see if that changes anything.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I've tested it thoroughly with several C64s (old and new).  And
<br\>> people with
<br\>> > PAL C64's have reported that it works fine.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Can you try it on another C64?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>>  Yep, Ill try that , it does seem like one of the occilators is
<br\>gone
<br\>> wrong on my sid, is that possible ??
<br\>>
<br\>> I've put volume at high and fiddled with the filter, no change.
<br\>>
<br\>> its weierd cause its all fine when its playing more than one note ??
<br\>>
<br\>> ill try another C64 and let you know....
<br\>>
<br\>> cheers
<br\>> C
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Hello,
<br\>
<br\>I have got a new C64 and its all working fine, one of the ocilators
<br\>must have gone bad on the last C64 I had...
<br\>
<br\>And I must say it sounds ace!! I happened to have some old atari
<br\>paddles in the cupboiard and they are working the filter nicely!!
<br\>
<br\>Im still thinking of putting  a pot on the actual C64 body ? has
<br\>anyone
<br\>done this already ?
<br\>
<br\>cheers
<br\>W
<br\>
<br\>ps, any news on the 'audio in' implementation ?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- waxedapple2 <cm24@bton.ac.uk> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Im still thinking of putting  a pot on the actual
<br\>> C64 body ? has
<br\>> anyone
<br\>> done this already ?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>What would the pot be for?
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
smokin?
<br\>=D
<br\>j
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> What would the pot be for?
<br\>>
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>> --- waxedapple2 <cm24@b...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > Im still thinking of putting  a pot on the actual
<br\>> > C64 body ? has
<br\>> > anyone
<br\>> > done this already ?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
snif..i loves ya man...snif
<br\>
<br\>j
<br\>
<br\>ps: i promise i'll mail your chippy package tommorrow Ignat...i got
<br\>sidetracked with stuff...
<br\>
<br\>> all of us should have a Jesse ;)
<br\>>
<br\>> oh, many of us has.
<br\>> Mine is called Jeremy.
<br\>>
<br\>> greetz. Ignacio.
<br\>>
<br\>>  --- receptorsmusic <jeremy@k...> escribió:
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > My *new best friend Jesse Smith* has supplied me with a working
<br\>C64 &
<br\>> > power supply (my 4th try finding one!)and I have seen and heard
<br\>the
<br\>> > magnificent light and sound of the Cynthcart! I can die happily
<br\>now ;)
<br\>> > So far I predict an onrush of new inspiration thanks to Lord
<br\>Slocum's
<br\>> > wonderful device.I'm hearing some nice thck shoegazey sounds with
<br\>> > textures that pull at one's heartstrings and distortions that
<br\>make
<br\>> > one's skin bristle and get's square waves absorbed by your bone
<br\>> > marrow...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > thanks Paul! (& Jesse!)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > jeremy
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I have an extra C64, Ive purchased a total of 5 going
<br\>> > > through the same issues as you. My first 2 ended up
<br\>> > > junk, the first has the buzz/hum when keys are pressed
<br\>> > > similar to one of the results you have had. The second
<br\>> > > works on certain filter settings in Cynthcart,
<br\>> > > possibly from one or more of the oscillators being
<br\>> > > bad. The recent 3 that I have recieved, after
<br\>> > > isolationg the power supplys of the previous 2, all
<br\>> > > work fine.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I know its very nerve racking to keep at it and seem
<br\>> > > to be getting no where. But I think its the drive to
<br\>> > > create that pushes us to the verge of accomplishment.
<br\>> > > If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks I
<br\>> > > can part with one and only one for $15 plus shipping.
<br\>> > > I can Guarantee this one is in working condition with
<br\>> > > the power supply that I send you.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Jesse
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- receptorsmusic <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > > (edited by jeremy)
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > ok, i got a custom commodore 64 power supply
<br\>> > > > delivers 9vac @ 5 amps &
<br\>> > > > 5vdc @ 8.0 amps...
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > this is the 3rd c64 (one fried now apparently by
<br\>> > > > shitty c64 power
<br\>> > > > supply, wish i did my research better up front and
<br\>> > > > knew that ahead of
<br\>> > > > time!) and 2nd Cynthcart i've tried and i cannot get
<br\>> > > > anything but a
<br\>> > > > noisy buzzing sound out of any of these..what am i
<br\>> > > > doing wrong? The
<br\>> > > > video displays perfectly and i can hear distant
<br\>> > > > filter sweeps
<br\>> > > > responding
<br\>> > > > to the Cynthcart controlls...
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > what started as a $30 investment and a free C64 is
<br\>> > > > up to almost
<br\>> > > > $150 worth of crap i've got to make this work..i'm
<br\>> > > > about ready to give
<br\>> > > > up, though i so badly don't want to..
<br\>> > > > what's my next step?
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > why i'm so obbsessed with when i own a Sidstation i
<br\>> > > > don't know...the
<br\>> > > > aesthetics i guess..hehe
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > jeremy
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Subject:
RE: Re: the sound of chip bliss.(formerly :the sound of a towel being thrown in?)

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<br\>
you know I love you too, man :)
<br\>
<br\>Looking forward to get that Santa Package :)))
<br\>
<br\>Also will upload a new design to the gainlad site noww,
<br\>
<br\>remember that of bearded men with hammers in the hands ;)
<br\>you'll see
<br\>hahaha...
<br\>;)
<br\>
<br\>luv. Ignat
<br\>
<br\>  --- receptorsmusic <jeremy@ksine.com> escribió:
<br\>
<br\>> snif..i loves ya man...snif
<br\>>
<br\>> j
<br\>>
<br\>> ps: i promise i'll mail your chippy package tommorrow Ignat...i got
<br\>> sidetracked with stuff...
<br\>>
<br\>> > all of us should have a Jesse ;)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > oh, many of us has.
<br\>> > Mine is called Jeremy.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > greetz. Ignacio.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >  --- receptorsmusic <jeremy@k...> escribió:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > My *new best friend Jesse Smith* has supplied me with a working
<br\>> C64 &
<br\>> > > power supply (my 4th try finding one!)and I have seen and heard
<br\>> the
<br\>> > > magnificent light and sound of the Cynthcart! I can die happily
<br\>> now ;)
<br\>> > > So far I predict an onrush of new inspiration thanks to Lord
<br\>> Slocum's
<br\>> > > wonderful device.I'm hearing some nice thck shoegazey sounds with
<br\>> > > textures that pull at one's heartstrings and distortions that
<br\>> make
<br\>> > > one's skin bristle and get's square waves absorbed by your bone
<br\>> > > marrow...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > thanks Paul! (& Jesse!)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > jeremy
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...>
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > I have an extra C64, Ive purchased a total of 5 going
<br\>> > > > through the same issues as you. My first 2 ended up
<br\>> > > > junk, the first has the buzz/hum when keys are pressed
<br\>> > > > similar to one of the results you have had. The second
<br\>> > > > works on certain filter settings in Cynthcart,
<br\>> > > > possibly from one or more of the oscillators being
<br\>> > > > bad. The recent 3 that I have recieved, after
<br\>> > > > isolationg the power supplys of the previous 2, all
<br\>> > > > work fine.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > I know its very nerve racking to keep at it and seem
<br\>> > > > to be getting no where. But I think its the drive to
<br\>> > > > create that pushes us to the verge of accomplishment.
<br\>> > > > If you are willing to toss in a couple more bucks I
<br\>> > > > can part with one and only one for $15 plus shipping.
<br\>> > > > I can Guarantee this one is in working condition with
<br\>> > > > the power supply that I send you.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > Jesse
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > --- receptorsmusic <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > > (edited by jeremy)
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > ok, i got a custom commodore 64 power supply
<br\>> > > > > delivers 9vac @ 5 amps &
<br\>> > > > > 5vdc @ 8.0 amps...
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > this is the 3rd c64 (one fried now apparently by
<br\>> > > > > shitty c64 power
<br\>> > > > > supply, wish i did my research better up front and
<br\>> > > > > knew that ahead of
<br\>> > > > > time!) and 2nd Cynthcart i've tried and i cannot get
<br\>> > > > > anything but a
<br\>> > > > > noisy buzzing sound out of any of these..what am i
<br\>> > > > > doing wrong? The
<br\>> > > > > video displays perfectly and i can hear distant
<br\>> > > > > filter sweeps
<br\>> > > > > responding
<br\>> > > > > to the Cynthcart controlls...
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > what started as a $30 investment and a free C64 is
<br\>> > > > > up to almost
<br\>> > > > > $150 worth of crap i've got to make this work..i'm
<br\>> > > > > about ready to give
<br\>> > > > > up, though i so badly don't want to..
<br\>> > > > > what's my next step?
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > why i'm so obbsessed with when i own a Sidstation i
<br\>> > > > > don't know...the
<br\>> > > > > aesthetics i guess..hehe
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > jeremy
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
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Message:
<br\>
The 'pot' would be to replace the need for the paddle (cutt off
<br\>filter controller). I was thinking of just conecting up the wires on
<br\>the inside of the case to the back of the joystick port and putting a
<br\>pot on the top of the C64, you dig ?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "receptorsmusic" <jeremy@k...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> smokin?
<br\>> =D
<br\>> j
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > What would the pot be for?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Jesse
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> > --- waxedapple2 <cm24@b...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > Im still thinking of putting  a pot on the actual
<br\>> > > C64 body ? has
<br\>> > > anyone
<br\>> > > done this already ?
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Im not familiar with using joysticks with the
<br\>commodore 64, is the joystick an analog joystick, and
<br\>is that why a pot will work?
<br\>
<br\>--- waxedapple2 <cm24@bton.ac.uk> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> The 'pot' would be to replace the need for the
<br\>> paddle (cutt off
<br\>> filter controller). I was thinking of just conecting
<br\>> up the wires on
<br\>> the inside of the case to the back of the joystick
<br\>> port and putting a
<br\>> pot on the top of the C64, you dig ?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "receptorsmusic"
<br\>> <jeremy@k...>
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > smokin?
<br\>> > =D
<br\>> > j
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > What would the pot be for?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Jesse
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > --- waxedapple2 <cm24@b...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > > Im still thinking of putting  a pot on the
<br\>> actual
<br\>> > > > C64 body ? has
<br\>> > > > anyone
<br\>> > > > done this already ?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Im not familiar with using joysticks with the
<br\>> commodore 64, is the joystick an analog joystick, and
<br\>> is that why a pot will work?
<br\>
<br\>no, paddles use different pins than joysticks... look:
<br\>
<br\>http://users.erols.com/tiltonj/games/tech/2600cont.html
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So he was refering to commodre paddles, I missed that,
<br\>are they the same as atari paddles, the link refers to
<br\>attari paddles?
<br\>
<br\>  I know Im missing something but Im sure we will get
<br\>it straightened out, I seem to be little behind the
<br\>curve so bare with me.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Daniel O'Shea <dan@ozramp.net.au> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith
<br\>> <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Im not familiar with using joysticks with the
<br\>> > commodore 64, is the joystick an analog joystick,
<br\>> and
<br\>> > is that why a pot will work?
<br\>>
<br\>> no, paddles use different pins than joysticks...
<br\>> look:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>http://users.erols.com/tiltonj/games/tech/2600cont.html
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>So he was refering to commodre paddles, I missed that,
<br\>>are they the same as atari paddles, the link refers to
<br\>>attari paddles?
<br\>
<br\>Atari paddles will work, but Commodore paddles are better.  The
<br\>resistor values are different, so the Atari paddles end up being much
<br\>more sensitive -- it only takes a very small amount of turning to
<br\>sweep the entire range of the filter.  The Commodore paddle is less
<br\>sensitive and the range is comparable to a normal filter cutoff knob.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I see, I guess Im not as familiar with the entire use
<br\>of cynthcart, I was completely unaware that the paddle
<br\>was used as a filter cutt-off, and I would way yes to
<br\>adding the pot directly to you c64 then. Just need to
<br\>find a pot of the same value of the c64 paddles and
<br\>wire it up to that link in this thread. From the
<br\>sounds of it the Atari is going to have a larger pot
<br\>the the c64 so take measurements and go from there.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks for filling me in,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >So he was refering to commodre paddles, I missed
<br\>> that,
<br\>> >are they the same as atari paddles, the link refers
<br\>> to
<br\>> >attari paddles?
<br\>>
<br\>> Atari paddles will work, but Commodore paddles are
<br\>> better.  The
<br\>> resistor values are different, so the Atari paddles
<br\>> end up being much
<br\>> more sensitive -- it only takes a very small amount
<br\>> of turning to
<br\>> sweep the entire range of the filter.  The Commodore
<br\>> paddle is less
<br\>> sensitive and the range is comparable to a normal
<br\>> filter cutoff knob.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I see, I guess Im not as familiar with the entire use
<br\>> of cynthcart, I was completely unaware that the paddle
<br\>> was used as a filter cutt-off, and I would way yes to
<br\>> adding the pot directly to you c64 then. Just need to
<br\>> find a pot of the same value of the c64 paddles and
<br\>> wire it up to that link in this thread. From the
<br\>> sounds of it the Atari is going to have a larger pot
<br\>> the the c64 so take measurements and go from there.
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks for filling me in,
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>> --- Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >So he was refering to commodre paddles, I missed
<br\>> > that,
<br\>> > >are they the same as atari paddles, the link refers
<br\>> > to
<br\>> > >attari paddles?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Atari paddles will work, but Commodore paddles are
<br\>> > better.  The
<br\>> > resistor values are different, so the Atari paddles
<br\>> > end up being much
<br\>> > more sensitive -- it only takes a very small amount
<br\>> > of turning to
<br\>> > sweep the entire range of the filter.  The Commodore
<br\>> > paddle is less
<br\>> > sensitive and the range is comparable to a normal
<br\>> > filter cutoff knob.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>Thanks for the info, Ill check out the link.
<br\>
<br\>cool, I'll let you know when I get it done !
<br\>
<br\>cheers
<br\>caleb
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi...
<br\>I'm a new atari user... mmm not just an user infact I wanna ask to you
<br\>this:
<br\>
<br\>How I can turn My atari 2600 into a synth?
<br\>I've an atari like this:
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.it/rare-Atari-2600-TERZO-modello-come-nuovo-
<br\>rare_W0QQitemZ8239066011QQcategoryZ3528QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZView
<br\>Item
<br\>
<br\>And I wanna know if it's possible use synthcart with this model.
<br\>Note: I've not joystic or other, please tell me what I must do!
<br\>Thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
HI.
<br\>
<br\>I couldnt view the link, but as far as i know there is not a atari the
<br\>  synthcart does not work on...
<br\>
<br\>check out the FAQ on this page for more details:
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/synth.html
<br\>
<br\>If you want a little more synth and in depth sequencingyou can try
<br\>getting a supercharger and running loop cart:
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/loopcart.html
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "postal_market" <brother-james@e...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi...
<br\>> I'm a new atari user... mmm not just an user infact I wanna ask to you
<br\>> this:
<br\>>
<br\>> How I can turn My atari 2600 into a synth?
<br\>> I've an atari like this:
<br\>> http://cgi.ebay.it/rare-Atari-2600-TERZO-modello-come-nuovo-
<br\>> rare_W0QQitemZ8239066011QQcategoryZ3528QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZView
<br\>> Item
<br\>>
<br\>> And I wanna know if it's possible use synthcart with this model.
<br\>> Note: I've not joystic or other, please tell me what I must do!
<br\>> Thanks
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> If you want a little more synth and in depth sequencingyou can try
<br\>> getting a supercharger and running loop cart
<br\>
<br\>Oh man, that reminds me... where the f is the second batch of Kroc
<br\>Karts?  I want to run loopcart so damn bad... I wonder which will come
<br\>first: a physical tangible real hold-it-touch-it-feel-it loopcart or
<br\>the 2nd batch of Kroc Karts?
<br\>
<br\>-b
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Greetings,
<br\>
<br\>On Dec 5, 2005, at 10:23 AM, dotdUmmy wrote:
<br\>> Oh man, that reminds me... where the f is the second batch of Kroc
<br\>> Karts?  I want to run loopcart so damn bad... I wonder which will come
<br\>> first: a physical tangible real hold-it-touch-it-feel-it loopcart or
<br\>> the 2nd batch of Kroc Karts?
<br\>
<br\>I'd say the Krokodile Carts.  :)
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>____________________________________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
My New Year's Resolution will be to TRY not to reply to my own
<br\>posts... as much... but until then...
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=79602&view=findpost&p=973094
<br\>
<br\>It's looking like January or February... joy.
<br\>
<br\>-b
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "dotdUmmy" <bradyleo@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\>> <kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > If you want a little more synth and in depth sequencingyou can try
<br\>> > getting a supercharger and running loop cart
<br\>>
<br\>> Oh man, that reminds me... where the f is the second batch of Kroc
<br\>> Karts?  I want to run loopcart so damn bad... I wonder which will come
<br\>> first: a physical tangible real hold-it-touch-it-feel-it loopcart or
<br\>> the 2nd batch of Kroc Karts?
<br\>>
<br\>> -b
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I'm nooby here,
<br\>at least with this mail ^_^
<br\>
<br\>greetz. Ignaz
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Any of you still looking for these?
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8244698515&ssPageName=ADME:B:\
<br\>SS:US:1
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yes, definitely.  In case this auction goes too high for my tastes,
<br\>does anyone have an extra one of these they would be willing to part
<br\>with?  Ideally it would have all the stuff with it, but I wouldn't
<br\>mind just the keyboard overlay.  I'm having serious fun with the
<br\>different synth type programs on the commodore.
<br\>
<br\>Speaking of which, what are people using for audio and video
<br\>adapters?  Any method of getting video and audio out where the audio
<br\>doesn't get noise like crazy?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks to info on either question, Ian
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Dec 19, 2005, at 11.01 pm, Bohus Blahut wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Any of you still looking for these?
<br\>>
<br\>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
<br\>> ViewItem&item=8244698515&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://www.livejournal.com/users/firebrand_boy/20724.html
<br\>
<br\>The joy of playing in Rock venues.
<br\>


Subject:
New release Dr Blowfins - mamamodular (on gainlad)

SubjectSrt:
New release Dr Blowfins - mamamodular (on gainlad)

Message:
<br\>
Dr Blowfins - mamamodular
<br\>
<br\>Awesome release from this electronic music master
<br\>using diferent and special gear.
<br\>Trippy - atmospheric - pulsating collection of tracks
<br\>that will take all your senses to fantasy land .
<br\>Instrumens used: LSDj, Nanoloop 1.2, Pocket Music
<br\>Color and Advance, Looper Advance, Synthcart, Prophet
<br\>64.-Cheetah MS6, Moog (drived by a 303 sequenzer).
<br\>plus some PC software.
<br\>download from:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.gainlad.gameboymall.com
<br\>
<br\>A must for your ears this holidays.
<br\>
<br\>merry-happy! Glad Crew
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>__________________________________________
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<br\>Just $16.99/mo. or less.
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey paul, thanks again for making cynthcart! Its a lot of fun and its
<br\>got some really great sounds.
<br\>
<br\>I know you're really busy, but i was just curious if a new update
<br\>would come sometime in 2006, or just any news in general if you've
<br\>done any work to the program.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
This doesn't have anything much to do with Cynthcart, I was just
<br\>curious... In addition to Cynthcart I've been using Retroskoi which is
<br\>a pretty decent monosynth especially in conjuntion with another c64
<br\>using Cynthcart.
<br\>
<br\>For some reason, the Retroskoi program is half a step higher... which
<br\>is okay if I adjust the Cynthcart (THANK YOU for having the forsight
<br\>to have such a feature), however that means that every other musician
<br\>will have to also tune as such. That is not a great difficulty, but if
<br\>I throw in sequenced bits then that's all sorts of things I'll have to
<br\>go back and adjust.
<br\>
<br\>So, my question is this... Is there an easy way to adjust this?
<br\>Clearly,  the Retroskoi program was programmed to be tuned sharp like
<br\>this as it is the same on each Commodore I've tried. I figure that the
<br\>program probably resets all settings prior to running which would mean
<br\>I couldn't somehow get the tuning to be half a step down prior to running.
<br\>
<br\>I haven't had a chance to look at any of the actual programming on
<br\>this program yet, just curious if anybody had run into this problem
<br\>before.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>For some reason, the Retroskoi program is half a step higher...
<br\>
<br\>I believe that the tuning between PAL and NTSC C64s ends up being a
<br\>little different because the clocks are slightly different.  This
<br\>probably accounts for the weird tuning, and is part of the reason I
<br\>included a tuning adjustment.
<br\>
<br\>>So, my question is this... Is there an easy way to adjust this?
<br\>
<br\>I think you're asking if it's possible to modify the Retroskoi
<br\>program to change the tuning?  Yes, but it would probably not be very
<br\>easy.  I think most C64 music programs use a table for their tunings
<br\>since they're non-linear and there's no FPU on the C64, so you'd
<br\>probably have to find the table and redo the whole thing to standard
<br\>values, which are published in the C64 Programmers Reference Guide.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Has anybody with a PAL C64 got the Cynthcart audio track off the
<br\>Cabana EP to load correctly?  I'm not sure if the clock variation on
<br\>the PAL C64 will cause problems.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Ah, yes, thanks for reminding me about the Programmer's Reference
<br\>Guide. I found a very dusty copy in the basement.
<br\>
<br\>So, yes, it is a PAL program and I was trying to use it on an NTSC
<br\>box. After searching around, I found an archive of Retroskoi that
<br\>included the source code so now there's an NTSC version. Cheers to
<br\>Aleksi for suggestions with regard to pucrunch.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.morganleahrecords.com/mooglecharm/c64/retroskoi-ntsc-pal-src.tar.gz
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> >For some reason, the Retroskoi program is half a step higher...
<br\>>
<br\>> I believe that the tuning between PAL and NTSC C64s ends up being a
<br\>> little different because the clocks are slightly different.  This
<br\>> probably accounts for the weird tuning, and is part of the reason I
<br\>> included a tuning adjustment.
<br\>>
<br\>> >So, my question is this... Is there an easy way to adjust this?
<br\>>
<br\>> I think you're asking if it's possible to modify the Retroskoi
<br\>> program to change the tuning?  Yes, but it would probably not be very
<br\>> easy.  I think most C64 music programs use a table for their tunings
<br\>> since they're non-linear and there's no FPU on the C64, so you'd
<br\>> probably have to find the table and redo the whole thing to standard
<br\>> values, which are published in the C64 Programmers Reference Guide.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i can´t get it to work with stella or the xmess emulator.... any
<br\>thoughts on this? the C64 cart is amazing!
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Michael Turri <krylli@m...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Jai-
<br\>>     Hey!  I'm so glad someone else is working on this.  Do you have it
<br\>> working on a Mac yet?  What do I need to get it running?  Can you send
<br\>> me the programs/files and instructions?  I don't even know how an
<br\>> emulator works.  Sorry for being so behind...
<br\>>
<br\>> Ultimately Thankful,
<br\>> Michael
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On Monday, Sep 27, 2004, at 03:32 Europe/London, Jai Johnson wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > Does anyone know how to get synthcart working on the Mac atari
<br\>> > emulator?
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> <image.tiff>
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> <image.tiff>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> >
<br\>> > •  To visit your group on the web, go to:
<br\>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/synthcart/
<br\>> >
<br\>> > •  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
<br\>> > synthcart-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >
<br\>> > •  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
<br\>Service.
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i can get synthcart to run on stella, but i can't figure out how to get stella
<br\>to
<br\>emulate the keyboard controllers. Does anyone know if stella can do this? or
<br\>is there another emulator we should use? (of course, nothing beats a REAL
<br\>atari with a stereo mod =] )
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingkoriander" <ulfurh@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> i can´t get it to work with stella or the xmess emulator.... any
<br\>> thoughts on this? the C64 cart is amazing!
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Michael Turri <krylli@m...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Jai-
<br\>> >     Hey!  I'm so glad someone else is working on this.  Do you have it
<br\>> > working on a Mac yet?  What do I need to get it running?  Can you send
<br\>> > me the programs/files and instructions?  I don't even know how an
<br\>> > emulator works.  Sorry for being so behind...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Ultimately Thankful,
<br\>> > Michael
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > On Monday, Sep 27, 2004, at 03:32 Europe/London, Jai Johnson wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > Does anyone know how to get synthcart working on the Mac atari
<br\>> > > emulator?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > <image.tiff>
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > <image.tiff>
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > •  To visit your group on the web, go to:
<br\>> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/synthcart/
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > •  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
<br\>> > > synthcart-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > •  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
<br\>> Service.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
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<br\>> >
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>i can get synthcart to run on stella, but i can't figure out how to
<br\>>get stella to
<br\>>emulate the keyboard controllers. Does anyone know if stella can do this? or
<br\>>is there another emulator we should use? (of course, nothing beats a REAL
<br\>>atari with a stereo mod =] )
<br\>
<br\>I only use Z26.  Unfortunately a lot of it's written in x86 assembly.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
try setting the keyboard to custom actions in system prefs!
<br\>
<br\>On 2/2/06, kingconga42 <kingconga8@aol.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> i can get synthcart to run on stella, but i can't figure out how to get
<br\>> stella to
<br\>> emulate the keyboard controllers. Does anyone know if stella can do this?
<br\>> or
<br\>> is there another emulator we should use? (of course, nothing beats a REAL
<br\>> atari with a stereo mod =] )
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingkoriander" <ulfurh@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > i can´t get it to work with stella or the xmess emulator.... any
<br\>> > thoughts on this? the C64 cart is amazing!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Michael Turri <krylli@m...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Jai-
<br\>> > >     Hey!  I'm so glad someone else is working on this.  Do you have it
<br\>> > > working on a Mac yet?  What do I need to get it running?  Can you send
<br\>> > > me the programs/files and instructions?  I don't even know how an
<br\>> > > emulator works.  Sorry for being so behind...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Ultimately Thankful,
<br\>> > > Michael
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > On Monday, Sep 27, 2004, at 03:32 Europe/London, Jai Johnson wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > > Does anyone know how to get synthcart working on the Mac atari
<br\>> > > > emulator?
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > <image.tiff>
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > <image.tiff>
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > •         To visit your group on the web, go to:
<br\>> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/synthcart/
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > •         To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
<br\>> > > > synthcart-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > •         Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms
<br\>> of
<br\>> > Service.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
Just want to let y'all know, i recently got a gp2x homebrew handheld device
<br\>( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X )
<br\>It rocks. I've got emulators for gameboy, nes, snes, mame, etc.
<br\>A new port of stella was just released and it is able to run synthcart. Of
<br\>course,
<br\>there aren't enough buttons on the thing to emulate both keyboard controllers
<br\>and all 6 switches, but it's still neat to have it on a handheld. I guess i was
<br\>using an old version of stella, cuz this one supports all the atari controllers.
<br\>I'll
<br\>try loopcart next.....
<br\>(oh, and i can run nanoloop on the gameboy emulator, but it has a few bugs)
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, ulfur hansson <ulfurh@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> try setting the keyboard to custom actions in system prefs!
<br\>>
<br\>> On 2/2/06, kingconga42 <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > i can get synthcart to run on stella, but i can't figure out how to get
<br\>> > stella to
<br\>> > emulate the keyboard controllers. Does anyone know if stella can do this?
<br\>> > or
<br\>> > is there another emulator we should use? (of course, nothing beats a
<br\>REAL
<br\>> > atari with a stereo mod =] )
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingkoriander" <ulfurh@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > i can´t get it to work with stella or the xmess emulator.... any
<br\>> > > thoughts on this? the C64 cart is amazing!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Michael Turri <krylli@m...> wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > Jai-
<br\>> > > >     Hey!  I'm so glad someone else is working on this.  Do you have it
<br\>> > > > working on a Mac yet?  What do I need to get it running?  Can you
<br\>send
<br\>> > > > me the programs/files and instructions?  I don't even know how an
<br\>> > > > emulator works.  Sorry for being so behind...
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > Ultimately Thankful,
<br\>> > > > Michael
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > On Monday, Sep 27, 2004, at 03:32 Europe/London, Jai Johnson
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > > Does anyone know how to get synthcart working on the Mac atari
<br\>> > > > > emulator?
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > <image.tiff>
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > <image.tiff>
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > •         To visit your group on the web, go to:
<br\>> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/synthcart/
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > •         To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
<br\>> > > > > synthcart-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > •         Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms
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<br\>> > > Service.
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
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<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> >
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<br\>> >
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<br\>> >
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<br\>>
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<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
...was fiddling with my Cynthcart today, and wondered - if the range
<br\>extends all the way up to the INST/DEL key, why not have it extend all
<br\>the way down to the number one and left arrow keys as well?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>> (oh, and i can run nanoloop on the gameboy emulator, but it has a
<br\>few bugs)
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>where'd you get the nanoloop rom? i didn't think he ever released just
<br\>the rom.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "2wm" <killradio_13@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@> wrote:
<br\>> > (oh, and i can run nanoloop on the gameboy emulator, but it has a
<br\>> few bugs)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> where'd you get the nanoloop rom? i didn't think he ever released just
<br\>> the rom.
<br\>>
<br\>> --2wm
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>He released a demo rom, and you can save patches using savestates in a
<br\>emulator. You can find it aroudn on ROM sites.
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> He released a demo rom, and you can save patches using savestates in a
<br\>> emulator. You can find it aroudn on ROM sites.
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>sweet. one more thing to play with on a gp32.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Subject:
european console work? + website s background for epileptic trance ;)

SubjectSrt:
european console work? + website s background for epileptic trance ;)

Message:
<br\>
Hello,
<br\>
<br\>   I remember having read the synthcart doesnt work well on european 2600
<br\>console. What are the issues? Ive got some here & im hesitating on buying the
<br\>cartridge &/or modding them...
<br\>
<br\>   I havent found the proper infos on the website, partly because I was tripping
<br\>on its new background. Its beautiful & funny (yeah!), but it doesnt help
<br\>reading... ;)
<br\>
<br\>   blip blip
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Subject:
Re: european console work? + website s background for epileptic trance ;)

Message:
<br\>
There are no issues with the PAL console, but it doesn't work with the
<br\>SECAM console.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Boris Franck wrote:
<br\>> Hello,
<br\>>
<br\>>   I remember having read the synthcart doesnt work well on european 2600
<br\>console. What are the issues? Ive got some here & im hesitating on buying the
<br\>cartridge &/or modding them...
<br\>>
<br\>>   I havent found the proper infos on the website, partly because I was
<br\>tripping on its new background. Its beautiful & funny (yeah!), but it doesnt
<br\>help reading... ;)
<br\>>
<br\>>   blip blip
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> ---------------------------------
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<br\>>
<br\>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> .
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>Does the Atari Synthcart work with an Atari 5200?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>new here but I thought I'd give it a shot...
<br\>
<br\>Got cynthcart, seems all the connections are right, c64 makes sound  in other
<br\>programs....
<br\>But cynthcart is inaudible (perhaps just faintly in the background), no shift
<br\>lock pressed
<br\>down, and hitting more than one key doesn't change anything. Already talked to
<br\>you about
<br\>this, Paul and am mailing the c64 monday (needed it for Print Shop flyer abuse
<br\>over the
<br\>weekend), but was wondering if anyone has had similar problems?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
It should work if you have the 2600 adapter for the 5200, but I haven't
<br\>tested it.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>zenithfound wrote:
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>>
<br\>> Does the Atari Synthcart work with an Atari 5200?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> .
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "2wm" <killradio_13@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > He released a demo rom, and you can save patches using savestates in a
<br\>> > emulator. You can find it aroudn on ROM sites.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Peter
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> sweet. one more thing to play with on a gp32.
<br\>>
<br\>> --2wm
<br\>>
<br\>Well, i was talking about the gp2x, but i'm sure it would work on
<br\>whatever gameboy emu the gp32 has. And apparently, someone found a way
<br\>to get a "midi out" plug for the gp32:
<br\>http://www.gp32x.com/index.php?artc=2385
<br\>No idea if it has midi in also, or if it would work with the nanoloop
<br\>demo rom....
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> > sweet. one more thing to play with on a gp32.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --2wm
<br\>> >
<br\>> Well, i was talking about the gp2x, but i'm sure it would work on
<br\>> whatever gameboy emu the gp32 has. And apparently, someone found a way
<br\>> to get a "midi out" plug for the gp32:
<br\>> http://www.gp32x.com/index.php?artc=2385
<br\>> No idea if it has midi in also, or if it would work with the nanoloop
<br\>> demo rom....
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>yeah, i know. i got a gp32 mainly so i could use lgpt. and testing
<br\>hadn't started on the gp2x yet. i wonder if i should have waited...
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Subject:
hidden village show feat. 2 x synthcarts

SubjectSrt:
hidden village show feat. 2 x synthcarts

Message:
<br\>
not sure if anybody here really cares, but i'm part of a duet called hidden
<br\>village. anyways,
<br\>we are playing a show next thursday. one of our pieces will be in three
<br\>movements for
<br\>vectrex running logo animations that trigger notes on two atari 2600's running
<br\>synthcart.
<br\>
<br\>i doubt anyone else from here is in adelaide, australia. just in case, the show
<br\>is at 8pm,
<br\>may 18th (next thurs) at the de la catessen gallery on anster street. i will
<br\>post photos and
<br\>sounds (only if anybody wants... let me know).
<br\>
<br\>cheers,
<br\>seb
<br\>


Subject:
Re: hidden village show feat. 2 x synthcarts

Message:
<br\>
Post away sounds neat...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In sfdfynthcart@yahoogroups.com, "sebastian_tomczak"
<br\><stomczak@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> not sure if anybody here really cares, but i'm part of a duet called
<br\>hidden village. anyways,
<br\>> we are playing a show next thursday. one of our pieces will be in
<br\>three movements for
<br\>> vectrex running logo animations that trigger notes on two atari
<br\>2600's running synthcart.
<br\>>
<br\>> i doubt anyone else from here is in adelaide, australia. just in
<br\>case, the show is at 8pm,
<br\>> may 18th (next thurs) at the de la catessen gallery on anster
<br\>street. i will post photos and
<br\>> sounds (only if anybody wants... let me know).
<br\>>
<br\>> cheers,
<br\>> seb
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hell ya!! if you come to Texas anytime soon, let me know.. I am reviving a
<br\>elect-ro 2600 in eastern texas and dig this!!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On 5/10/06, sebastian_tomczak <stomczak@e-access.com.au> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> not sure if anybody here really cares, but i'm part of a duet called
<br\>> hidden village. anyways,
<br\>> we are playing a show next thursday. one of our pieces will be in three
<br\>> movements for
<br\>> vectrex running logo animations that trigger notes on two atari 2600's
<br\>> running synthcart.
<br\>>
<br\>> i doubt anyone else from here is in adelaide, australia. just in case, the
<br\>> show is at 8pm,
<br\>> may 18th (next thurs) at the de la catessen gallery on anster street. i
<br\>> will post photos and
<br\>> sounds (only if anybody wants... let me know).
<br\>>
<br\>> cheers,
<br\>> seb
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Message:
<br\>
I'll be playing a show in columbus, ne on saturday the 20th with my band
<br\>scremapiller. If
<br\>anyone is in the area or even knows where columbus is please stop by and check
<br\>it out. It'll
<br\>be at wishbones starting around 9-ish. I'll be using a 64 with the cynthcart,
<br\>and the 2600
<br\>with the synthcart. should be a fun show.
<br\>if nothing else you can check out some of our music on myspace:
<br\>www.myspace.com/screamapiller
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello all,
<br\>Here is a link regarding the show from last thurs.
<br\>http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2006/05/hidden-village-at-tyndall-assembly.html
<br\>
<br\>It's got some pics and a one minute movie with sound. I will post more
<br\>sound at some stage I am sure.
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Seb
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Byron Smart" <byronsmart@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hell ya!! if you come to Texas anytime soon, let me know.. I am
<br\>reviving a
<br\>> elect-ro 2600 in eastern texas and dig this!!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On 5/10/06, sebastian_tomczak <stomczak@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > not sure if anybody here really cares, but i'm part of a duet called
<br\>> > hidden village. anyways,
<br\>> > we are playing a show next thursday. one of our pieces will be in
<br\>three
<br\>> > movements for
<br\>> > vectrex running logo animations that trigger notes on two atari 2600's
<br\>> > running synthcart.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > i doubt anyone else from here is in adelaide, australia. just in
<br\>case, the
<br\>> > show is at 8pm,
<br\>> > may 18th (next thurs) at the de la catessen gallery on anster
<br\>street. i
<br\>> > will post photos and
<br\>> > sounds (only if anybody wants... let me know).
<br\>> >
<br\>> > cheers,
<br\>> > seb
<br\>> >
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Subject:
how do u hook up a atari 2600 to a amp???..........help

SubjectSrt:
how do u hook up a atari 2600 to a amp???..........help

Message:
<br\>
i really have no clue!!!
<br\>


Subject:
Re: how do u hook up a atari 2600 to a amp???..........help

Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless" <nycmindless@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> i really have no clue!!!
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>atariage is your friend!:
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: how do u hook up a atari 2600 to a amp???..........help

Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>I'm not in the mood of playing the boogey man,
<br\>but I have to tell:
<br\>beware of guitar amps,
<br\>I got my (audio video) moded atari jr
<br\>ruined by a guitar amp (a valvular one)
<br\>
<br\>It worked really cool for a while just until
<br\>I pluggued it to that stupid guitar amp.
<br\>It would look so indie (to use a guitar amp) but is
<br\>really trash for me :(
<br\>All I got from it (the atari) now is a low hum,
<br\>all the other functions still works,
<br\>It seems to be that the audio video chip got
<br\>broken by some tension leak of the amp.
<br\>
<br\>If anyone can help me to know how to fix it that will
<br\>make me very happy!
<br\>
<br\>I didn't replace the atari yet, but the synthcart
<br\>seems to be untouched, all the carts I put give the
<br\>same hum but good video and functionality.
<br\>
<br\>sorry my weird english.
<br\>
<br\>greetz. ignacio.
<br\>--- kingconga42 <kingconga8@aol.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless"
<br\>> <nycmindless@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > i really have no clue!!!
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> atariage is your friend!:
<br\>>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
Wow that's funny. The same thing happened to me in reverse. My video got
<br\>fried by plugging into an amp, but the sound still functions fine. Since the
<br\>Atari audio out is line level, the sound tends to distort through amps, even
<br\>at modest stage volumes. To remedy this, I have installed a volume pot right
<br\>before the audio out connections (in this case a 1/4" jack). This lets me
<br\>trim the signal level down a bit and causes way less distortion, especially
<br\>in the bass range. To answer your question nycmindless, there are several
<br\>sites as well as several methods in which to get composite audio/video out
<br\>of your 2600. Just search for "atari 2600 composite mod" and you should find
<br\>several ways, ranging from simple to complex.
<br\>-justin
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On 5/24/06 3:15 PM, "Ignatz" <zurtur@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>> I'm not in the mood of playing the boogey man,
<br\>> but I have to tell:
<br\>> beware of guitar amps,
<br\>> I got my (audio video) moded atari jr
<br\>> ruined by a guitar amp (a valvular one)
<br\>>
<br\>> It worked really cool for a while just until
<br\>> I pluggued it to that stupid guitar amp.
<br\>> It would look so indie (to use a guitar amp) but is
<br\>> really trash for me :(
<br\>> All I got from it (the atari) now is a low hum,
<br\>> all the other functions still works,
<br\>> It seems to be that the audio video chip got
<br\>> broken by some tension leak of the amp.
<br\>>
<br\>> If anyone can help me to know how to fix it that will
<br\>> make me very happy!
<br\>>
<br\>> I didn't replace the atari yet, but the synthcart
<br\>> seems to be untouched, all the carts I put give the
<br\>> same hum but good video and functionality.
<br\>>
<br\>> sorry my weird english.
<br\>>
<br\>> greetz. ignacio.
<br\>> --- kingconga42 <kingconga8@aol.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless"
<br\>>> <nycmindless@...> wrote:
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> i really have no clue!!!
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>> atariage is your friend!:
<br\>>>
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>> -justin
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--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless" <nycmindless@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > i really have no clue!!!
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> atariage is your friend!:
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>hey do u no eney good sites 4 helping someone mod a atari 2600, to get
<br\>a jack in it so u can put one of thoes guitar cords that go in 2 the
<br\>guitar and the amp???
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey
<br\>
<br\>Just replace the rca jack in most of those mods with a 1/4 inch
<br\>instrument jack. It should be the pretty much same wiring internally.
<br\>
<br\>Or you can simply get a cable with rca on one end and 1/4 on the
<br\>other, whaterever works best.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless" <nycmindless@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless" <nycmindless@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > i really have no clue!!!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > atariage is your friend!:
<br\>> > http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>> hey do u no eney good sites 4 helping someone mod a atari 2600, to get
<br\>> a jack in it so u can put one of thoes guitar cords that go in 2 the
<br\>> guitar and the amp???
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey,
<br\>
<br\>It probaly did get zapped by the impedance of the amp... look for a
<br\>transformer cable or see if your amp has a tape in or line input
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Ignatz <zurtur@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>> I'm not in the mood of playing the boogey man,
<br\>> but I have to tell:
<br\>> beware of guitar amps,
<br\>> I got my (audio video) moded atari jr
<br\>> ruined by a guitar amp (a valvular one)
<br\>>
<br\>> It worked really cool for a while just until
<br\>> I pluggued it to that stupid guitar amp.
<br\>> It would look so indie (to use a guitar amp) but is
<br\>> really trash for me :(
<br\>> All I got from it (the atari) now is a low hum,
<br\>> all the other functions still works,
<br\>> It seems to be that the audio video chip got
<br\>> broken by some tension leak of the amp.
<br\>>
<br\>> If anyone can help me to know how to fix it that will
<br\>> make me very happy!
<br\>>
<br\>> I didn't replace the atari yet, but the synthcart
<br\>> seems to be untouched, all the carts I put give the
<br\>> same hum but good video and functionality.
<br\>>
<br\>> sorry my weird english.
<br\>>
<br\>> greetz. ignacio.
<br\>> --- kingconga42 <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless"
<br\>> > <nycmindless@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > i really have no clue!!!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > atariage is your friend!:
<br\>> >
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
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<br\>
That sucks that your amp broke your atari, I would suggest having that amp
<br\>looked at. You never know if it'll hurt your other equipment. I don't
<br\>understand why would you plug it into a guitar amp to begin with. A bass
<br\>amp would be a little better, but a keyboard amp with a watt number like
<br\>250+ would be ideal.
<br\>


Subject:
RE: Re: how do u hook up a atari 2600 to a amp???..........help

Message:
<br\>
Thanks people,
<br\>
<br\>and sorry for that rage against guitar amps,
<br\>the reason why I plugged the atari into that (valvular) guitar amp
<br\>is that it was in the practice room we rented with the rock band I was playing
<br\>with..
<br\>
<br\>I should had imagined (and ask for a line in), now I have to spend 33 dolars
<br\>again in
<br\>another cheap atari..
<br\>I can trust in a broken atari to take off the audio video chip,
<br\>no way to trust in my soldering skills for an integrated circuit.
<br\>
<br\>Some friend told me that some amps may leak tension to its inputs,
<br\>or maybe were the impedances?
<br\>
<br\>ok, sad story..
<br\>
<br\>I'll never use again a guitar amp,
<br\>or maybe even play in a rock band neither.
<br\>The leader of the band wasnt gentle after that "dead"
<br\>he keeped on blaming my atari or my atari transformer :(
<br\>
<br\>too into pot to think or be gentle (sorry, more rage, heh.. )
<br\>
<br\>greetings. Ignacio.
<br\>
<br\>  --- Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm <kradlabs@yahoo.com> escribió:
<br\>
<br\>> Hey,
<br\>>
<br\>> It probaly did get zapped by the impedance of the amp... look for a
<br\>> transformer cable or see if your amp has a tape in or line input
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Ignatz <zurtur@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hi,
<br\>> > I'm not in the mood of playing the boogey man,
<br\>> > but I have to tell:
<br\>> > beware of guitar amps,
<br\>> > I got my (audio video) moded atari jr
<br\>> > ruined by a guitar amp (a valvular one)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > It worked really cool for a while just until
<br\>> > I pluggued it to that stupid guitar amp.
<br\>> > It would look so indie (to use a guitar amp) but is
<br\>> > really trash for me :(
<br\>> > All I got from it (the atari) now is a low hum,
<br\>> > all the other functions still works,
<br\>> > It seems to be that the audio video chip got
<br\>> > broken by some tension leak of the amp.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > If anyone can help me to know how to fix it that will
<br\>> > make me very happy!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I didn't replace the atari yet, but the synthcart
<br\>> > seems to be untouched, all the carts I put give the
<br\>> > same hum but good video and functionality.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > sorry my weird english.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > greetz. ignacio.
<br\>> > --- kingconga42 <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless"
<br\>> > > <nycmindless@> wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > i really have no clue!!!
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > atariage is your friend!:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -justin
<br\>> > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
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<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Justin Wood <goodrevdoc@...> wrote:
<br\>>hey was up...i'm not that old to tell the truth....i'm 11....i'm
<br\>looking around websites finding new stuff about my atari (4 switch
<br\>VCS,black AKA dath vader)...i jus need a good site to show me how to
<br\>put a 1/4" jack in my atari!!!
<br\>-my names justin 2
<br\>
<br\>> Wow that's funny. The same thing happened to me in reverse. My
<br\>video got
<br\>> fried by plugging into an amp, but the sound still functions fine.
<br\>Since the
<br\>> Atari audio out is line level, the sound tends to distort through
<br\>amps, even
<br\>> at modest stage volumes. To remedy this, I have installed a volume
<br\>pot right
<br\>> before the audio out connections (in this case a 1/4" jack). This
<br\>lets me
<br\>> trim the signal level down a bit and causes way less distortion,
<br\>especially
<br\>> in the bass range. To answer your question nycmindless, there are
<br\>several
<br\>> sites as well as several methods in which to get composite
<br\>audio/video out
<br\>> of your 2600. Just search for "atari 2600 composite mod" and you
<br\>should find
<br\>> several ways, ranging from simple to complex.
<br\>> -justin
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On 5/24/06 3:15 PM, "Ignatz" <zurtur@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > Hi,
<br\>> > I'm not in the mood of playing the boogey man,
<br\>> > but I have to tell:
<br\>> > beware of guitar amps,
<br\>> > I got my (audio video) moded atari jr
<br\>> > ruined by a guitar amp (a valvular one)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > It worked really cool for a while just until
<br\>> > I pluggued it to that stupid guitar amp.
<br\>> > It would look so indie (to use a guitar amp) but is
<br\>> > really trash for me :(
<br\>> > All I got from it (the atari) now is a low hum,
<br\>> > all the other functions still works,
<br\>> > It seems to be that the audio video chip got
<br\>> > broken by some tension leak of the amp.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > If anyone can help me to know how to fix it that will
<br\>> > make me very happy!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I didn't replace the atari yet, but the synthcart
<br\>> > seems to be untouched, all the carts I put give the
<br\>> > same hum but good video and functionality.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > sorry my weird english.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > greetz. ignacio.
<br\>> > --- kingconga42 <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless"
<br\>> >> <nycmindless@> wrote:
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>> i really have no clue!!!
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> atariage is your friend!:
<br\>> >>
<br\>> > http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> -justin
<br\>> >> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >>
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<br\>
I have "Frankenstiened" 2600's by using VERY high power magnets while
<br\>having a crappy 2600 game inside(not cart just chip) and basically getting
<br\>the internal rf wavesoutput to re-alighn the UHF out.. DONT worry it wont
<br\>shock you to do this, most of the ohm output is on the right hand side of
<br\>the unit.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On 5/24/06, Ignatz <zurtur@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>> I'm not in the mood of playing the boogey man,
<br\>> but I have to tell:
<br\>> beware of guitar amps,
<br\>> I got my (audio video) moded atari jr
<br\>> ruined by a guitar amp (a valvular one)
<br\>>
<br\>> It worked really cool for a while just until
<br\>> I pluggued it to that stupid guitar amp.
<br\>> It would look so indie (to use a guitar amp) but is
<br\>> really trash for me :(
<br\>> All I got from it (the atari) now is a low hum,
<br\>> all the other functions still works,
<br\>> It seems to be that the audio video chip got
<br\>> broken by some tension leak of the amp.
<br\>>
<br\>> If anyone can help me to know how to fix it that will
<br\>> make me very happy!
<br\>>
<br\>> I didn't replace the atari yet, but the synthcart
<br\>> seems to be untouched, all the carts I put give the
<br\>> same hum but good video and functionality.
<br\>>
<br\>> sorry my weird english.
<br\>>
<br\>> greetz. ignacio.
<br\>>
<br\>> --- kingconga42 <kingconga8@aol.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless"
<br\>> > <nycmindless@...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > i really have no clue!!!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > atariage is your friend!:
<br\>> >
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
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<br\>> >
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Google is your friend:
<br\>http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/Question2.htm
<br\>Took like two seconds...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On 5/24/06 7:45 PM, "nycmindless" <nycmindless@yahoo.ca> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Justin Wood <goodrevdoc@...> wrote:
<br\>>> hey was up...i'm not that old to tell the truth....i'm 11....i'm
<br\>> looking around websites finding new stuff about my atari (4 switch
<br\>> VCS,black AKA dath vader)...i jus need a good site to show me how to
<br\>> put a 1/4" jack in my atari!!!
<br\>> -my names justin 2
<br\>>
<br\>>> Wow that's funny. The same thing happened to me in reverse. My
<br\>> video got
<br\>>> fried by plugging into an amp, but the sound still functions fine.
<br\>> Since the
<br\>>> Atari audio out is line level, the sound tends to distort through
<br\>> amps, even
<br\>>> at modest stage volumes. To remedy this, I have installed a volume
<br\>> pot right
<br\>>> before the audio out connections (in this case a 1/4" jack). This
<br\>> lets me
<br\>>> trim the signal level down a bit and causes way less distortion,
<br\>> especially
<br\>>> in the bass range. To answer your question nycmindless, there are
<br\>> several
<br\>>> sites as well as several methods in which to get composite
<br\>> audio/video out
<br\>>> of your 2600. Just search for "atari 2600 composite mod" and you
<br\>> should find
<br\>>> several ways, ranging from simple to complex.
<br\>>> -justin
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>> On 5/24/06 3:15 PM, "Ignatz" <zurtur@...> wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>>> Hi,
<br\>>>> I'm not in the mood of playing the boogey man,
<br\>>>> but I have to tell:
<br\>>>> beware of guitar amps,
<br\>>>> I got my (audio video) moded atari jr
<br\>>>> ruined by a guitar amp (a valvular one)
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> It worked really cool for a while just until
<br\>>>> I pluggued it to that stupid guitar amp.
<br\>>>> It would look so indie (to use a guitar amp) but is
<br\>>>> really trash for me :(
<br\>>>> All I got from it (the atari) now is a low hum,
<br\>>>> all the other functions still works,
<br\>>>> It seems to be that the audio video chip got
<br\>>>> broken by some tension leak of the amp.
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> If anyone can help me to know how to fix it that will
<br\>>>> make me very happy!
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> I didn't replace the atari yet, but the synthcart
<br\>>>> seems to be untouched, all the carts I put give the
<br\>>>> same hum but good video and functionality.
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> sorry my weird english.
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> greetz. ignacio.
<br\>>>> --- kingconga42 <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless"
<br\>>>>> <nycmindless@> wrote:
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>> i really have no clue!!!
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> atariage is your friend!:
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>> http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> -justin
<br\>>>>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
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<br\>
That is because the AMP is electromagnetic and has ONE huge amp.. Take my
<br\>advice the magnetic field is off balance in the jr. I bet if you pounded on
<br\>it (right hand side) it would re-allign.
<br\>
<br\>On 5/24/06, Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks people,
<br\>>
<br\>> and sorry for that rage against guitar amps,
<br\>> the reason why I plugged the atari into that (valvular) guitar amp
<br\>> is that it was in the practice room we rented with the rock band I was
<br\>> playing with..
<br\>>
<br\>> I should had imagined (and ask for a line in), now I have to spend 33
<br\>> dolars again in
<br\>> another cheap atari..
<br\>> I can trust in a broken atari to take off the audio video chip,
<br\>> no way to trust in my soldering skills for an integrated circuit.
<br\>>
<br\>> Some friend told me that some amps may leak tension to its inputs,
<br\>> or maybe were the impedances?
<br\>>
<br\>> ok, sad story..
<br\>>
<br\>> I'll never use again a guitar amp,
<br\>> or maybe even play in a rock band neither.
<br\>> The leader of the band wasnt gentle after that "dead"
<br\>> he keeped on blaming my atari or my atari transformer :(
<br\>>
<br\>> too into pot to think or be gentle (sorry, more rage, heh.. )
<br\>>
<br\>> greetings. Ignacio.
<br\>>
<br\>> --- Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm <kradlabs@yahoo.com> escribió:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > Hey,
<br\>> >
<br\>> > It probaly did get zapped by the impedance of the amp... look for a
<br\>> > transformer cable or see if your amp has a tape in or line input
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Peter
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Ignatz <zurtur@...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Hi,
<br\>> > > I'm not in the mood of playing the boogey man,
<br\>> > > but I have to tell:
<br\>> > > beware of guitar amps,
<br\>> > > I got my (audio video) moded atari jr
<br\>> > > ruined by a guitar amp (a valvular one)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > It worked really cool for a while just until
<br\>> > > I pluggued it to that stupid guitar amp.
<br\>> > > It would look so indie (to use a guitar amp) but is
<br\>> > > really trash for me :(
<br\>> > > All I got from it (the atari) now is a low hum,
<br\>> > > all the other functions still works,
<br\>> > > It seems to be that the audio video chip got
<br\>> > > broken by some tension leak of the amp.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > If anyone can help me to know how to fix it that will
<br\>> > > make me very happy!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I didn't replace the atari yet, but the synthcart
<br\>> > > seems to be untouched, all the carts I put give the
<br\>> > > same hum but good video and functionality.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > sorry my weird english.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > greetz. ignacio.
<br\>> > > --- kingconga42 <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless"
<br\>> > > > <nycmindless@> wrote:
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > i really have no clue!!!
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > atariage is your friend!:
<br\>> > > >
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Subject:
re: how do u hook up a atari 2600 to a amp???..........help

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>Subject: how do u hook up a atari 2600 to a amp???..........help
<br\>>i really have no clue!!!
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<br\>http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/HowToMAIN.htm
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<br\>http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/2600_stereo.html
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Message:
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Weird. so the sound was affecting the video?
<br\>Were they like the magnets in big speakers?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
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<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Byron Smart" <byronsmart@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>  I have "Frankenstiened" 2600's by using VERY high power magnets while
<br\>> having a crappy 2600 game inside(not cart just chip) and basically getting
<br\>> the internal rf wavesoutput to re-alighn the UHF out.. DONT worry it wont
<br\>> shock you to do this, most of the ohm output is on the right hand side of
<br\>> the unit.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On 5/24/06, Ignatz <zurtur@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hi,
<br\>> > I'm not in the mood of playing the boogey man,
<br\>> > but I have to tell:
<br\>> > beware of guitar amps,
<br\>> > I got my (audio video) moded atari jr
<br\>> > ruined by a guitar amp (a valvular one)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > It worked really cool for a while just until
<br\>> > I pluggued it to that stupid guitar amp.
<br\>> > It would look so indie (to use a guitar amp) but is
<br\>> > really trash for me :(
<br\>> > All I got from it (the atari) now is a low hum,
<br\>> > all the other functions still works,
<br\>> > It seems to be that the audio video chip got
<br\>> > broken by some tension leak of the amp.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > If anyone can help me to know how to fix it that will
<br\>> > make me very happy!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I didn't replace the atari yet, but the synthcart
<br\>> > seems to be untouched, all the carts I put give the
<br\>> > same hum but good video and functionality.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > sorry my weird english.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > greetz. ignacio.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- kingconga42 <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless"
<br\>> > > <nycmindless@> wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > i really have no clue!!!
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > atariage is your friend!:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -justin
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THAX!!!
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<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hey
<br\>>
<br\>> Just replace the rca jack in most of those mods with a 1/4 inch
<br\>> instrument jack. It should be the pretty much same wiring
<br\>internally.
<br\>>
<br\>> Or you can simply get a cable with rca on one end and 1/4 on the
<br\>> other, whaterever works best.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless" <nycmindless@>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "nycmindless" <nycmindless@>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > i really have no clue!!!
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > atariage is your friend!:
<br\>> > > http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87378
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -justin
<br\>> > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > hey do u no eney good sites 4 helping someone mod a atari 2600,
<br\>to get
<br\>> > a jack in it so u can put one of thoes guitar cords that go in 2
<br\>the
<br\>> > guitar and the amp???
<br\>> >
<br\>>
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