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-). I wished there was an atari wireless keypads, when i decide to
<br\>move my chair while making music, my wires get tangled around the
<br\>chair and mess up and stuff, has there been any thoughts of a design
<br\>of wireless keypads? .(-
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--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Baptiste" <ace@...> wrote:
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<br\>> -). I wished there was an atari wireless keypads, when i decide to
<br\>> move my chair while making music, my wires get tangled around the
<br\>> chair and mess up and stuff, has there been any thoughts of a design
<br\>> of wireless keypads? .(-
<br\>>
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<br\>what about hardwiring the controls into the atari itself?
<br\>
<br\>Peter
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-). what you mean by that? .(-
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:41 PM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
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<br\>   --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Baptiste" <ace@...> wrote:
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<br\>   > -). I wished there was an atari wireless keypads, when i decide to
<br\>   > move my chair while making music, my wires get tangled around the
<br\>   > chair and mess up and stuff, has there been any thoughts of a design
<br\>   > of wireless keypads? .(-
<br\>   >
<br\>
<br\>   what about hardwiring the controls into the atari itself?
<br\>
<br\>   Peter
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meaning taking the controllers apart and solidering them to the pins on the
<br\>back of the atari unit itself
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<br\>On 5/27/06, ACEyBOX <ace@aceybox-studios.co.uk> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> -). what you mean by that? .(-
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<br\>>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>>   From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>   Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:41 PM
<br\>>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
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<br\>>   >
<br\>>   > -). I wished there was an atari wireless keypads, when i decide to
<br\>>   > move my chair while making music, my wires get tangled around the
<br\>>   > chair and mess up and stuff, has there been any thoughts of a design
<br\>>   > of wireless keypads? .(-
<br\>>   >
<br\>>
<br\>>   what about hardwiring the controls into the atari itself?
<br\>>
<br\>>   Peter
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Hey,
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<br\>Yea there is enough internal space and surface mount area to screen
<br\>the controllers on the face of the 26k.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
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<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Byron Smart" <byronsmart@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> meaning taking the controllers apart and solidering them to the pins
<br\>on the
<br\>> back of the atari unit itself
<br\>>
<br\>> On 5/27/06, ACEyBOX <ace@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -). what you mean by that? .(-
<br\>> >
<br\>> >   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>> >   From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>> >   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >   Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:41 PM
<br\>> >   Subject: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >   --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Baptiste" <ace@> wrote:
<br\>> >   >
<br\>> >   > -). I wished there was an atari wireless keypads, when i decide to
<br\>> >   > move my chair while making music, my wires get tangled around the
<br\>> >   > chair and mess up and stuff, has there been any thoughts of a
<br\>design
<br\>> >   > of wireless keypads? .(-
<br\>> >   >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >   what about hardwiring the controls into the atari itself?
<br\>> >
<br\>> >   Peter
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-). I think you guys missed the point im trying to make, I mean wireless so i
<br\>can hold it from my bed and play from there. like the wavebird on game cube .(-
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:18 PM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
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<br\>   Hey,
<br\>
<br\>   Yea there is enough internal space and surface mount area to screen
<br\>   the controllers on the face of the 26k.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   peter
<br\>
<br\>   --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Byron Smart" <byronsmart@...> wrote:
<br\>   >
<br\>   > meaning taking the controllers apart and solidering them to the pins
<br\>   on the
<br\>   > back of the atari unit itself
<br\>   >
<br\>   > On 5/27/06, ACEyBOX <ace@...> wrote:
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > > -). what you mean by that? .(-
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > >   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   > >   From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>   > >   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   > >   Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:41 PM
<br\>   > >   Subject: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > >   --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Baptiste" <ace@> wrote:
<br\>   > >   >
<br\>   > >   > -). I wished there was an atari wireless keypads, when i decide to
<br\>   > >   > move my chair while making music, my wires get tangled around the
<br\>   > >   > chair and mess up and stuff, has there been any thoughts of a
<br\>   design
<br\>   > >   > of wireless keypads? .(-
<br\>   > >   >
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > >   what about hardwiring the controls into the atari itself?
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > >   Peter
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Wireless shouldn't be too much trouble. You basically could mux the
<br\>individual pins on something like a cd4051, send them  an IR lED
<br\>transmitt/receive pair, and demux the signal at the unit, tying into the DB9
<br\>controller ports. Upside would be no more cord mess (2600's aren't the
<br\>greatest in form/function design) Downside would be only line of sight
<br\>operation and batteries in the keypads. The same could probably be done with
<br\>a regular controller too, albeit with slightly different specifics. I'd say
<br\>to get started, search out some CMOS cookbook type circuits. That should at
<br\>least be enough to get started.
<br\>-justin
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On 5/29/06 11:37 AM, "ACEyBOX" <ace@aceybox-studios.co.uk> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> -). I think you guys missed the point im trying to make, I mean wireless so i
<br\>> can hold it from my bed and play from there. like the wavebird on game cube
<br\>> .(-
<br\>>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>>   From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>   Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:18 PM
<br\>>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   Hey,
<br\>>
<br\>>   Yea there is enough internal space and surface mount area to screen
<br\>>   the controllers on the face of the 26k.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   peter
<br\>>
<br\>>   --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Byron Smart" <byronsmart@...> wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>> meaning taking the controllers apart and solidering them to the pins
<br\>>   on the
<br\>>> back of the atari unit itself
<br\>>>
<br\>>> On 5/27/06, ACEyBOX <ace@...> wrote:
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> -). what you mean by that? .(-
<br\>>>>
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<br\>>>>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>>>   Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:41 PM
<br\>>>>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>>>>
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<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> -). I wished there was an atari wireless keypads, when i decide to
<br\>>>>> move my chair while making music, my wires get tangled around the
<br\>>>>> chair and mess up and stuff, has there been any thoughts of a
<br\>>   design
<br\>>>>> of wireless keypads? .(-
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>   what about hardwiring the controls into the atari itself?
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>Yea there is enough internal space and surface mount area to screen
<br\>>the controllers on the face of the 26k.
<br\>
<br\>i've thought about doing this...  anyone have experience with the execution
<br\>of such a task?  would be nice to leave the ports intact so you could still
<br\>play some adventure in between rockin out.
<br\>and wouldn't it be 2.6k?  ;)
<br\>


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<br\>
-). I surely don't, If anyone finds a way, they can name their price and ill pay
<br\>.(-
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Sean Hellfritsch
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 7:04 PM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] video touch pad surface mount mod
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   >Yea there is enough internal space and surface mount area to screen
<br\>   >the controllers on the face of the 26k.
<br\>
<br\>   i've thought about doing this...  anyone have experience with the execution
<br\>   of such a task?  would be nice to leave the ports intact so you could still
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<br\>
Here's about the only thing I found:
<br\>http://www.oldsoftware.com/atari.html
<br\>Used rare Atari 2600 style wireless joystick with receiver
<br\>
<br\>But I have a better idea:  Here's a page where the guy says he put
<br\>Genesis ports on his 7800.  <http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/
<br\>7800_gen_adap.html>.
<br\>
<br\>Then there is this link to use playstation controllers on the
<br\>genesis: <http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?
<br\>category=226&products_id=3462&likref=link>.
<br\>
<br\>All you would need then is a wireless playstation controller.  That
<br\>is, if the 2600 can use 7800 controllers.
<br\>
<br\>ian
<br\>
<br\>On May 29, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Justin Wood wrote:
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Wireless shouldn't be too much trouble. You basically could mux the
<br\>> individual pins on something like a cd4051, send them  an IR lED
<br\>> transmitt/receive pair, and demux the signal at the unit, tying
<br\>> into the DB9
<br\>> controller ports. Upside would be no more cord mess (2600's aren't the
<br\>> greatest in form/function design) Downside would be only line of sight
<br\>> operation and batteries in the keypads. The same could probably be
<br\>> done with
<br\>> a regular controller too, albeit with slightly different specifics.
<br\>> I'd say
<br\>> to get started, search out some CMOS cookbook type circuits. That
<br\>> should at
<br\>> least be enough to get started.
<br\>> -justin
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On 5/29/06 11:37 AM, "ACEyBOX" <ace@aceybox-studios.co.uk> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > -). I think you guys missed the point im trying to make, I mean
<br\>> wireless so i
<br\>> > can hold it from my bed and play from there. like the wavebird on
<br\>> game cube
<br\>> > .(-
<br\>>
<br\>


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<br\>
Ebay also has some rare 2600 wireless controllers. Atari branded ones you
<br\>can get for around 50 dollars for 1 pair. However I think Wico and some
<br\>other 3rd party brands are on auction from time to time for around 30
<br\>
<br\>On 5/29/06, Ian Page-Echols <ian@v8media.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Here's about the only thing I found:
<br\>> http://www.oldsoftware.com/atari.html
<br\>> Used rare Atari 2600 style wireless joystick with receiver
<br\>>
<br\>> But I have a better idea:  Here's a page where the guy says he put
<br\>> Genesis ports on his 7800.  <http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/
<br\>> 7800_gen_adap.html>.
<br\>>
<br\>> Then there is this link to use playstation controllers on the
<br\>> genesis: <http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?
<br\>> category=226&products_id=3462&likref=link>.
<br\>>
<br\>> All you would need then is a wireless playstation controller.  That
<br\>> is, if the 2600 can use 7800 controllers.
<br\>>
<br\>> ian
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On May 29, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Justin Wood wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > Wireless shouldn't be too much trouble. You basically could mux the
<br\>> > individual pins on something like a cd4051, send them  an IR lED
<br\>> > transmitt/receive pair, and demux the signal at the unit, tying
<br\>> > into the DB9
<br\>> > controller ports. Upside would be no more cord mess (2600's aren't the
<br\>> > greatest in form/function design) Downside would be only line of sight
<br\>> > operation and batteries in the keypads. The same could probably be
<br\>> > done with
<br\>> > a regular controller too, albeit with slightly different specifics.
<br\>> > I'd say
<br\>> > to get started, search out some CMOS cookbook type circuits. That
<br\>> > should at
<br\>> > least be enough to get started.
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > On 5/29/06 11:37 AM, "ACEyBOX" <ace@aceybox-studios.co.uk> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > -). I think you guys missed the point im trying to make, I mean
<br\>> > wireless so i
<br\>> > > can hold it from my bed and play from there. like the wavebird on
<br\>> > game cube
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-). I mean wireless Atari keypads, to play the synthcart with .(-
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Byron Smart
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 10:10 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Ebay also has some rare 2600 wireless controllers. Atari branded ones you
<br\>   can get for around 50 dollars for 1 pair. However I think Wico and some
<br\>   other 3rd party brands are on auction from time to time for around 30
<br\>
<br\>   On 5/29/06, Ian Page-Echols <ian@v8media.com> wrote:
<br\>   >
<br\>   > Here's about the only thing I found:
<br\>   > http://www.oldsoftware.com/atari.html
<br\>   > Used rare Atari 2600 style wireless joystick with receiver
<br\>   >
<br\>   > But I have a better idea:  Here's a page where the guy says he put
<br\>   > Genesis ports on his 7800.  <http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/
<br\>   > 7800_gen_adap.html>.
<br\>   >
<br\>   > Then there is this link to use playstation controllers on the
<br\>   > genesis: <http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?
<br\>   > category=226&products_id=3462&likref=link>.
<br\>   >
<br\>   > All you would need then is a wireless playstation controller.  That
<br\>   > is, if the 2600 can use 7800 controllers.
<br\>   >
<br\>   > ian
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   > On May 29, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Justin Wood wrote:
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   > > Wireless shouldn't be too much trouble. You basically could mux the
<br\>   > > individual pins on something like a cd4051, send them  an IR lED
<br\>   > > transmitt/receive pair, and demux the signal at the unit, tying
<br\>   > > into the DB9
<br\>   > > controller ports. Upside would be no more cord mess (2600's aren't the
<br\>   > > greatest in form/function design) Downside would be only line of sight
<br\>   > > operation and batteries in the keypads. The same could probably be
<br\>   > > done with
<br\>   > > a regular controller too, albeit with slightly different specifics.
<br\>   > > I'd say
<br\>   > > to get started, search out some CMOS cookbook type circuits. That
<br\>   > > should at
<br\>   > > least be enough to get started.
<br\>   > > -justin
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > > On 5/29/06 11:37 AM, "ACEyBOX" <ace@aceybox-studios.co.uk> wrote:
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > > > -). I think you guys missed the point im trying to make, I mean
<br\>   > > wireless so i
<br\>   > > > can hold it from my bed and play from there. like the wavebird on
<br\>   > > game cube
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You mean the things that are like the extended portion of a computer
<br\>keyboard?  That I don't know.  Good question.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On May 29, 2006, at 3:54 PM, ACEyBOX wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> -). I mean wireless Atari keypads, to play the synthcart with .(-
<br\>>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>>   From: Byron Smart
<br\>>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>   Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 10:10 PM
<br\>>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   Ebay also has some rare 2600 wireless controllers. Atari branded
<br\>> ones you
<br\>>   can get for around 50 dollars for 1 pair. However I think Wico
<br\>> and some
<br\>>   other 3rd party brands are on auction from time to time for
<br\>> around 30
<br\>>
<br\>>   On 5/29/06, Ian Page-Echols <ian@v8media.com> wrote:
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   > Here's about the only thing I found:
<br\>>   > http://www.oldsoftware.com/atari.html
<br\>>   > Used rare Atari 2600 style wireless joystick with receiver
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   > But I have a better idea:  Here's a page where the guy says he put
<br\>>   > Genesis ports on his 7800.  <http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/
<br\>>   > 7800_gen_adap.html>.
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   > Then there is this link to use playstation controllers on the
<br\>>   > genesis: <http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?
<br\>>   > category=226&products_id=3462&likref=link>.
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   > All you would need then is a wireless playstation controller.
<br\>> That
<br\>>   > is, if the 2600 can use 7800 controllers.
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   > ian
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   > On May 29, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Justin Wood wrote:
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   >
<br\>>   > > Wireless shouldn't be too much trouble. You basically could
<br\>> mux the
<br\>>   > > individual pins on something like a cd4051, send them  an IR lED
<br\>>   > > transmitt/receive pair, and demux the signal at the unit, tying
<br\>>   > > into the DB9
<br\>>   > > controller ports. Upside would be no more cord mess (2600's
<br\>> aren't the
<br\>>   > > greatest in form/function design) Downside would be only line
<br\>> of sight
<br\>>   > > operation and batteries in the keypads. The same could
<br\>> probably be
<br\>>   > > done with
<br\>>   > > a regular controller too, albeit with slightly different
<br\>> specifics.
<br\>>   > > I'd say
<br\>>   > > to get started, search out some CMOS cookbook type circuits.
<br\>> That
<br\>>   > > should at
<br\>>   > > least be enough to get started.
<br\>>   > > -justin
<br\>>   > >
<br\>>   > >
<br\>>   > > On 5/29/06 11:37 AM, "ACEyBOX" <ace@aceybox-studios.co.uk>
<br\>> wrote:
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<br\>>   > > > -). I think you guys missed the point im trying to make, I
<br\>> mean
<br\>>   > > wireless so i
<br\>>   > > > can hold it from my bed and play from there. like the
<br\>> wavebird on
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-). Just incase everyone else is still confused with what im saying
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com//2600/controllers/con_AtariKeypad.jpg
<br\>
<br\>I mean imagine these as wireless .(-
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Ian Page-Echols
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:29 AM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   You mean the things that are like the extended portion of a computer
<br\>   keyboard?  That I don't know.  Good question.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   On May 29, 2006, at 3:54 PM, ACEyBOX wrote:
<br\>
<br\>   > -). I mean wireless Atari keypads, to play the synthcart with .(-
<br\>   >   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   >   From: Byron Smart
<br\>   >   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   >   Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 10:10 PM
<br\>   >   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   Ebay also has some rare 2600 wireless controllers. Atari branded
<br\>   > ones you
<br\>   >   can get for around 50 dollars for 1 pair. However I think Wico
<br\>   > and some
<br\>   >   other 3rd party brands are on auction from time to time for
<br\>   > around 30
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   On 5/29/06, Ian Page-Echols <ian@v8media.com> wrote:
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   > Here's about the only thing I found:
<br\>   >   > http://www.oldsoftware.com/atari.html
<br\>   >   > Used rare Atari 2600 style wireless joystick with receiver
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   > But I have a better idea:  Here's a page where the guy says he put
<br\>   >   > Genesis ports on his 7800.  <http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/
<br\>   >   > 7800_gen_adap.html>.
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   > Then there is this link to use playstation controllers on the
<br\>   >   > genesis: <http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?
<br\>   >   > category=226&products_id=3462&likref=link>.
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   > All you would need then is a wireless playstation controller.
<br\>   > That
<br\>   >   > is, if the 2600 can use 7800 controllers.
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   > ian
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   > On May 29, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Justin Wood wrote:
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   >
<br\>   >   > > Wireless shouldn't be too much trouble. You basically could
<br\>   > mux the
<br\>   >   > > individual pins on something like a cd4051, send them  an IR lED
<br\>   >   > > transmitt/receive pair, and demux the signal at the unit, tying
<br\>   >   > > into the DB9
<br\>   >   > > controller ports. Upside would be no more cord mess (2600's
<br\>   > aren't the
<br\>   >   > > greatest in form/function design) Downside would be only line
<br\>   > of sight
<br\>   >   > > operation and batteries in the keypads. The same could
<br\>   > probably be
<br\>   >   > > done with
<br\>   >   > > a regular controller too, albeit with slightly different
<br\>   > specifics.
<br\>   >   > > I'd say
<br\>   >   > > to get started, search out some CMOS cookbook type circuits.
<br\>   > That
<br\>   >   > > should at
<br\>   >   > > least be enough to get started.
<br\>   >   > > -justin
<br\>   >   > >
<br\>   >   > >
<br\>   >   > > On 5/29/06 11:37 AM, "ACEyBOX" <ace@aceybox-studios.co.uk>
<br\>   > wrote:
<br\>   >   > >
<br\>   >   > > > -). I think you guys missed the point im trying to make, I
<br\>   > mean
<br\>   >   > > wireless so i
<br\>   >   > > > can hold it from my bed and play from there. like the
<br\>   > wavebird on
<br\>   >   > > game cube
<br\>   >   > > > .(-
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And you got your answer.. its not diffucult to design, but may be a
<br\>hassle to implmemnt. I figure if you can mod something as complex as
<br\>that, it would make more sense to have a battery operated unit self
<br\>contained in your bed, cause how would you run the onunit switches as
<br\>well as the keypads?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "ACEyBOX" <ace@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> -). Just incase everyone else is still confused with what im saying
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com//2600/controllers/con_AtariKeypad.jpg
<br\>>
<br\>> I mean imagine these as wireless .(-
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-). moyte, I need to find someome to do it, thats why im willing to pay ya. I
<br\>can't do that sort of stuff to save my life .(-
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:16 PM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   And you got your answer.. its not diffucult to design, but may be a
<br\>   hassle to implmemnt. I figure if you can mod something as complex as
<br\>   that, it would make more sense to have a battery operated unit self
<br\>   contained in your bed, cause how would you run the onunit switches as
<br\>   well as the keypads?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "ACEyBOX" <ace@...> wrote:
<br\>   >
<br\>   > -). Just incase everyone else is still confused with what im saying
<br\>   >
<br\>   > http://www.atariage.com//2600/controllers/con_AtariKeypad.jpg
<br\>   >
<br\>   > I mean imagine these as wireless .(-
<br\>
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>how would you run the on unit switches as
<br\>>   well as the keypads?
<br\>Oh man, I didn't even think about that. Yeah so implementing the keypads
<br\>themselves to be wireless is easy, I also believe that the two menu switches
<br\>could be done without too much hassle. But the color/b&w and difficulty
<br\>switches would require relays and cutting and annoyance in general for all
<br\>involved. I'm not saying its not a cool idea, just agreeing with peter that
<br\>if one were to go to this length, one could get significantly more bang for
<br\>one's buck in terms of available mods. But just in case anybody wants to
<br\>play star raiders with their wireless joystick, I'll post some wireless
<br\>keypad files this week sometime. I rethought the design yesterday and it
<br\>shouldn't be much harder than audio/video out conversion. As for building
<br\>them for people, I have a lot on my plate right now but if you really want a
<br\>pair, send me an e-mail and I'll see what I can do.
<br\>-justin
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On 5/30/06 12:32 PM, "ACEyBOX" <ace@aceybox-studios.co.uk> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> -). moyte, I need to find someome to do it, thats why im willing to pay ya. I
<br\>> can't do that sort of stuff to save my life .(-
<br\>>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>>   From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>   Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:16 PM
<br\>>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   And you got your answer.. its not diffucult to design, but may be a
<br\>>   hassle to implmemnt. I figure if you can mod something as complex as
<br\>>   that, it would make more sense to have a battery operated unit self
<br\>>   contained in your bed, cause how would you run the on unit switches as
<br\>>   well as the keypads?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   Peter
<br\>>
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<br\>>   --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "ACEyBOX" <ace@...> wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>> -). Just incase everyone else is still confused with what im saying
<br\>>>
<br\>>> http://www.atariage.com//2600/controllers/con_AtariKeypad.jpg
<br\>>>
<br\>>> I mean imagine these as wireless .(-
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-). Justin, how much you want for it? .(-
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Justin Wood
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:02 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   >how would you run the on unit switches as
<br\>   >   well as the keypads?
<br\>   Oh man, I didn't even think about that. Yeah so implementing the keypads
<br\>   themselves to be wireless is easy, I also believe that the two menu switches
<br\>   could be done without too much hassle. But the color/b&w and difficulty
<br\>   switches would require relays and cutting and annoyance in general for all
<br\>   involved. I'm not saying its not a cool idea, just agreeing with peter that
<br\>   if one were to go to this length, one could get significantly more bang for
<br\>   one's buck in terms of available mods. But just in case anybody wants to
<br\>   play star raiders with their wireless joystick, I'll post some wireless
<br\>   keypad files this week sometime. I rethought the design yesterday and it
<br\>   shouldn't be much harder than audio/video out conversion. As for building
<br\>   them for people, I have a lot on my plate right now but if you really want a
<br\>   pair, send me an e-mail and I'll see what I can do.
<br\>   -justin
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   On 5/30/06 12:32 PM, "ACEyBOX" <ace@aceybox-studios.co.uk> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>   > -). moyte, I need to find someome to do it, thats why im willing to pay ya.
<br\>I
<br\>   > can't do that sort of stuff to save my life .(-
<br\>   >   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   >   From: Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>   >   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   >   Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:16 PM
<br\>   >   Subject: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   And you got your answer.. its not diffucult to design, but may be a
<br\>   >   hassle to implmemnt. I figure if you can mod something as complex as
<br\>   >   that, it would make more sense to have a battery operated unit self
<br\>   >   contained in your bed, cause how would you run the on unit switches as
<br\>   >   well as the keypads?
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   Peter
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   >   --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "ACEyBOX" <ace@...> wrote:
<br\>   >>
<br\>   >> -). Just incase everyone else is still confused with what im saying
<br\>   >>
<br\>   >> http://www.atariage.com//2600/controllers/con_AtariKeypad.jpg
<br\>   >>
<br\>   >> I mean imagine these as wireless .(-
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--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "ACEyBOX" <ace@...> wrote:
<br\>>   >how would you run the on unit switches as
<br\>>   >   well as the keypads?
<br\>>   Oh man, I didn't even think about that.
<br\>
<br\>Now this goes back to the earlier post about mounting the keypads on
<br\>the console itself.
<br\>Then you could get the RF->composite video out mod, and one of those
<br\>wireless video xmitters. And you'd need to figure out how to run it
<br\>off of batteries.
<br\>
<br\>And btw, someone DID do the IR thing. For xbox, with a portable
<br\>screen. It's sweet:
<br\>http://www.hack247.co.uk/2006/05/29/diy-portable-media-center-extender/
<br\>
<br\>-(the other)justin
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On 6/2/06 2:40 AM, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@aol.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "ACEyBOX" <ace@...> wrote:
<br\>>>> how would you run the on unit switches as
<br\>>>>   well as the keypads?
<br\>>>   Oh man, I didn't even think about that.
<br\>>
<br\>> Now this goes back to the earlier post about mounting the keypads on
<br\>> the console itself.
<br\>> Then you could get the RF->composite video out mod, and one of those
<br\>> wireless video xmitters. And you'd need to figure out how to run it
<br\>> off of batteries.
<br\>
<br\>I'm sure many have seen this site:
<br\>http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/HowToMAIN.htm
<br\>It details among other things, how to cut down your board to 4x4 and still
<br\>have it work and how to run your atari off of a 9v battery. Presumably one
<br\>could hack up their atari and keypads, stick it all in a crappy project box
<br\>with a wireless A/V unit and a decent battery pack, and have a wireless
<br\>synthcart setup. Heck, with a little extra forethought and planning, one
<br\>could probably retain full functionality of an original atari. Note that I
<br\>personally haven't tried any of these mods, but at a cursory glance they
<br\>seem legit.
<br\>-(yet another) justin
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<br\>
Or you can hack up a new atari flashback if you don't want to
<br\>desecrate your heavy sixer:
<br\>http://www.atarimuseum.com/fb2hacks/
<br\>
<br\>aw, it's so cute!
<br\>http://members.cox.net/rcolbert/pictures/flashbackfin.jpg
<br\>
<br\>Does anyone know if you can use kbd controllers with the flashback?
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Justin Wood <goodrevdoc@...> wrote:
<br\>> I'm sure many have seen this site:
<br\>> http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/HowToMAIN.htm
<br\>


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<br\>
Very cool!  Thanks for that link.  Wireless synthcart.  Hmm.
<br\>
<br\>Also in the possibilities list for making this stuff wireless would
<br\>be this: <http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/review.htm>  There's
<br\>something called the Jaguar pad, I'm assuming it was useable with the
<br\>Atari Jaguar, it's got joystick controls as well as the number pad on
<br\>one controller.
<br\>
<br\>ian
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Jun 4, 2006, at 8:50 AM, kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Or you can hack up a new atari flashback if you don't want to
<br\>> desecrate your heavy sixer:
<br\>> http://www.atarimuseum.com/fb2hacks/
<br\>>
<br\>> aw, it's so cute!
<br\>> http://members.cox.net/rcolbert/pictures/flashbackfin.jpg
<br\>>
<br\>> Does anyone know if you can use kbd controllers with the flashback?
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Justin Wood <goodrevdoc@...> wrote:
<br\>> > I'm sure many have seen this site:
<br\>> > http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/HowToMAIN.htm
<br\>
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-). Is there a wireless jaguar pad? .(-
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Ian Page-Echols
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:06 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: -). WIRELESS .(-
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Very cool!  Thanks for that link.  Wireless synthcart.  Hmm.
<br\>
<br\>   Also in the possibilities list for making this stuff wireless would
<br\>   be this: <http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/review.htm>  There's
<br\>   something called the Jaguar pad, I'm assuming it was useable with the
<br\>   Atari Jaguar, it's got joystick controls as well as the number pad on
<br\>   one controller.
<br\>
<br\>   ian
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   On Jun 4, 2006, at 8:50 AM, kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>
<br\>   > Or you can hack up a new atari flashback if you don't want to
<br\>   > desecrate your heavy sixer:
<br\>   > http://www.atarimuseum.com/fb2hacks/
<br\>   >
<br\>   > aw, it's so cute!
<br\>   > http://members.cox.net/rcolbert/pictures/flashbackfin.jpg
<br\>   >
<br\>   > Does anyone know if you can use kbd controllers with the flashback?
<br\>   >
<br\>   > -justin
<br\>   > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>   >
<br\>   >
<br\>   > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Justin Wood <goodrevdoc@...> wrote:
<br\>   > > I'm sure many have seen this site:
<br\>   > > http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/HowToMAIN.htm
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I've released a minor update to the Cynthcart:
<br\>- added keys to turn the filter on and off
<br\>- added a SID HEX editor
<br\>- changed the key combos for tuning to avoid accidental changes
<br\>
<br\>More info here:
<br\>http://www.qotile.net/blog/wp/?p=344
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thanks Paul!
<br\>hope you and all your great projects are well :-)
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I've released a minor update to the Cynthcart:
<br\>> - added keys to turn the filter on and off
<br\>> - added a SID HEX editor
<br\>> - changed the key combos for tuning to avoid accidental changes
<br\>>
<br\>> More info here:
<br\>> http://www.qotile.net/blog/wp/?p=344
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
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<br\>
Hi guys,
<br\>I am wondering what different methods people are using for midi
<br\>control over synthcart notes. You can have a look at what I am up to
<br\>here:
<br\>http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2006/06/synthcart-midi-control-it-begins.html
<br\>and here:
<br\>http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2006/06/synthcart-midi-control-first-test.html.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>You will probably say something like: That way is too much of a pain!
<br\>But I say, it is the quickest way I know how at this point, and all
<br\>the parts I have for it were lying around (otherwise I would not have
<br\>done it this way).
<br\>
<br\>Anyways, I look forward to hearing of other ways people have actually
<br\>done this sort of thing.
<br\>
<br\>Cheers,
<br\>Seb
<br\>


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<br\>
Neat.
<br\>I've seen that kind of method before somewhere, but i can't remember where.
<br\>Did you write that software?
<br\>Another idea i was thinking of was to use vactrols in place of LEDs on some
<br\>sort of midi device that had LEDs that light up with certain notes. (like the
<br\>akai
<br\>s20 sampler) But i just got a couple MIDI relay kits from highly liquid, so i'll
<br\>most likely go that route.
<br\>
<br\>Is there any lag with those LDRs?
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "sebastian_tomczak" <stomczak@...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi guys,
<br\>> I am wondering what different methods people are using for midi
<br\>> control over synthcart notes. You can have a look at what I am up to
<br\>> here:
<br\>> http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2006/06/synthcart-midi-control-it-begins.html
<br\>> and here:
<br\>>
<br\>http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2006/06/synthcart-midi-control-first-test.html.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> You will probably say something like: That way is too much of a pain!
<br\>> But I say, it is the quickest way I know how at this point, and all
<br\>> the parts I have for it were lying around (otherwise I would not have
<br\>> done it this way).
<br\>>
<br\>> Anyways, I look forward to hearing of other ways people have actually
<br\>> done this sort of thing.
<br\>>
<br\>> Cheers,
<br\>> Seb
<br\>>
<br\>


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<br\>
Sebastian, RSS Jockey remixed my post about your stuff today:
<br\>http://www.rssjockey.com/?p=205
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


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<br\>
The software is "written" ;) in max msp- a graphical environment. It is very,
<br\>very quick and
<br\>easy to get things up and running using max... see http://www.cycling74.com
<br\>
<br\>I will post it as win and mac standalone apps when I finish it. Should be July
<br\>16th or so.
<br\>
<br\>Would love to hear your experience with the [highly liquid kits -> synthcart].
<br\>
<br\>The LDR's do not produce any perceivable lag by themselves... I know this from
<br\>the stuff i
<br\>did with [vectrex visuals via logo -> synthcart] see:
<br\>http://little-scale.blogspot.com/
<br\>2006/05/hidden-village-at-tyndall-assembly.html
<br\>
<br\>But of course, the laptop and midi in general isn't perfect when it comes to
<br\>lag...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Neat.
<br\>> I've seen that kind of method before somewhere, but i can't remember where.
<br\>> Did you write that software?
<br\>> Another idea i was thinking of was to use vactrols in place of LEDs on some
<br\>> sort of midi device that had LEDs that light up with certain notes. (like the
<br\>akai
<br\>> s20 sampler) But i just got a couple MIDI relay kits from highly liquid, so
<br\>i'll
<br\>> most likely go that route.
<br\>>
<br\>> Is there any lag with those LDRs?
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "sebastian_tomczak" <stomczak@>
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hi guys,
<br\>> > I am wondering what different methods people are using for midi
<br\>> > control over synthcart notes. You can have a look at what I am up to
<br\>> > here:
<br\>> >
<br\>http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2006/06/synthcart-midi-control-it-begins.html
<br\>> > and here:
<br\>> >
<br\>http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2006/06/synthcart-midi-control-first-test.html.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > You will probably say something like: That way is too much of a pain!
<br\>> > But I say, it is the quickest way I know how at this point, and all
<br\>> > the parts I have for it were lying around (otherwise I would not have
<br\>> > done it this way).
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Anyways, I look forward to hearing of other ways people have actually
<br\>> > done this sort of thing.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Cheers,
<br\>> > Seb
<br\>> >
<br\>>
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<br\>
I like the glitchy quicktime mp3 on your blog!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Sebastian, RSS Jockey remixed my post about your stuff today:
<br\>> http://www.rssjockey.com/?p=205
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
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<br\>Whoo boy thats a good deal for a "classic analog synthesizer"
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<br\>
ha! that's great.  Nice clip.
<br\>
<br\>btw, on the airplane back from holland I split the loopcart into 2 banks
<br\>so I can add the rest of the features.  I'm swamped again, but hopefully
<br\>I'll find more time to work on it soon.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>>
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<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
<br\>>
<br\>> Whoo boy thats a good deal for a "classic analog synthesizer"
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
it's not even a modded 2600...ughhh
<br\>
<br\>paul: as for the loopcart, definitely keep us in the - ahhh - loop
<br\>
<br\>I'd like a cart soon!
<br\>
<br\>-A
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> ha! that's great.  Nice clip.
<br\>>
<br\>> btw, on the airplane back from holland I split the loopcart into 2
<br\>> banks
<br\>> so I can add the rest of the features.  I'm swamped again, but
<br\>> hopefully
<br\>> I'll find more time to work on it soon.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0QQ\
<br\>itemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Whoo boy thats a good deal for a "classic analog synthesizer"
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Hey,
<br\>
<br\>I still have the flash memory stick I bought frome the Vectex guy like
<br\>  a yeaar and a half ago, so good news indeed!
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Andy Tolley <airport71@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> it's not even a modded 2600...ughhh
<br\>>
<br\>> paul: as for the loopcart, definitely keep us in the - ahhh - loop
<br\>>
<br\>> I'd like a cart soon!
<br\>>
<br\>> -A
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > ha! that's great.  Nice clip.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > btw, on the airplane back from holland I split the loopcart into 2
<br\>> > banks
<br\>> > so I can add the rest of the features.  I'm swamped again, but
<br\>> > hopefully
<br\>> > I'll find more time to work on it soon.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0QQ\
<br\>itemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Whoo boy thats a good deal for a "classic analog synthesizer"
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> __________________________________________________
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<br\>> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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Message:
<br\>
Where can I find one of those memory sticks, I had a
<br\>link to a keychain type memory card, but the website
<br\>no longer exists?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\><kradlabs@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Hey,
<br\>>
<br\>> I still have the flash memory stick I bought frome
<br\>> the Vectex guy like
<br\>>  a yeaar and a half ago, so good news indeed!
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Andy Tolley
<br\>> <airport71@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > it's not even a modded 2600...ughhh
<br\>> >
<br\>> > paul: as for the loopcart, definitely keep us in
<br\>> the - ahhh - loop
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I'd like a cart soon!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -A
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > ha! that's great.  Nice clip.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > btw, on the airplane back from holland I split
<br\>> the loopcart into 2
<br\>> > > banks
<br\>> > > so I can add the rest of the features.  I'm
<br\>> swamped again, but
<br\>> > > hopefully
<br\>> > > I'll find more time to work on it soon.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -paul
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0QQ\
<br\>itemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > Whoo boy thats a good deal for a "classic
<br\>> analog synthesizer"
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > __________________________________________________
<br\>> > Do You Yahoo!?
<br\>> > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
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<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Richard Hutchinson (sp?) made them.  I don't think he's officially
<br\>selling them right now, but he may have some.  Shoot him an email.  And
<br\>FYI the Atarivox has the memory chip AND a speech synth (which several
<br\>homebrews support now).
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Jesse Smith wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Where can I find one of those memory sticks, I had a
<br\>> link to a keychain type memory card, but the website
<br\>> no longer exists?
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks,
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>> --- Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>> <kradlabs@yahoo.com <mailto:kradlabs%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > Hey,
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I still have the flash memory stick I bought frome
<br\>> > the Vectex guy like
<br\>> > a yeaar and a half ago, so good news indeed!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Peter
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, Andy Tolley
<br\>> > <airport71@...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > it's not even a modded 2600...ughhh
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > paul: as for the loopcart, definitely keep us in
<br\>> > the - ahhh - loop
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I'd like a cart soon!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -A
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > > ha! that's great. Nice clip.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > btw, on the airplane back from holland I split
<br\>> > the loopcart into 2
<br\>> > > > banks
<br\>> > > > so I can add the rest of the features. I'm
<br\>> > swamped again, but
<br\>> > > > hopefully
<br\>> > > > I'll find more time to work on it soon.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > -paul
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0QQ\
<br\>itemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>\
<br\>>
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > Whoo boy thats a good deal for a "classic
<br\>> > analog synthesizer"
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > __________________________________________________
<br\>> > > Do You Yahoo!?
<br\>> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
<br\>> > protection around
<br\>> > > http://mail.yahoo.com <http://mail.yahoo.com>
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
oops, forgot the link:
<br\>http://www.vectrex.biz/
<br\>
<br\>Jesse Smith wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Where can I find one of those memory sticks, I had a
<br\>> link to a keychain type memory card, but the website
<br\>> no longer exists?
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks,
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>> --- Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>> <kradlabs@yahoo.com <mailto:kradlabs%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > Hey,
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I still have the flash memory stick I bought frome
<br\>> > the Vectex guy like
<br\>> > a yeaar and a half ago, so good news indeed!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Peter
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, Andy Tolley
<br\>> > <airport71@...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > it's not even a modded 2600...ughhh
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > paul: as for the loopcart, definitely keep us in
<br\>> > the - ahhh - loop
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I'd like a cart soon!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -A
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > > ha! that's great. Nice clip.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > btw, on the airplane back from holland I split
<br\>> > the loopcart into 2
<br\>> > > > banks
<br\>> > > > so I can add the rest of the features. I'm
<br\>> > swamped again, but
<br\>> > > > hopefully
<br\>> > > > I'll find more time to work on it soon.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > -paul
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0QQ\
<br\>itemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>\
<br\>>
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > Whoo boy thats a good deal for a "classic
<br\>> > analog synthesizer"
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > __________________________________________________
<br\>> > > Do You Yahoo!?
<br\>> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
<br\>> > protection around
<br\>> > > http://mail.yahoo.com <http://mail.yahoo.com>
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks thats the website I had a bookmark too, but the
<br\>webpage I was linked to no longer exists.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks Again,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> oops, forgot the link:
<br\>> http://www.vectrex.biz/
<br\>>
<br\>> Jesse Smith wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Where can I find one of those memory sticks, I had
<br\>> a
<br\>> > link to a keychain type memory card, but the
<br\>> website
<br\>> > no longer exists?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Thanks,
<br\>> > Jesse
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>> > <kradlabs@yahoo.com <mailto:kradlabs%40yahoo.com>>
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > Hey,
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I still have the flash memory stick I bought
<br\>> frome
<br\>> > > the Vectex guy like
<br\>> > > a yeaar and a half ago, so good news indeed!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Peter
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, Andy Tolley
<br\>> > > <airport71@...> wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > it's not even a modded 2600...ughhh
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > paul: as for the loopcart, definitely keep us
<br\>> in
<br\>> > > the - ahhh - loop
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > I'd like a cart soon!
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > -A
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > --- Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > > ha! that's great. Nice clip.
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > btw, on the airplane back from holland I
<br\>> split
<br\>> > > the loopcart into 2
<br\>> > > > > banks
<br\>> > > > > so I can add the rest of the features. I'm
<br\>> > > swamped again, but
<br\>> > > > > hopefully
<br\>> > > > > I'll find more time to work on it soon.
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > -paul
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>> > > > > >
<br\>> > > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0QQ\
<br\>itemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>\
<br\>>
<br\>> > > > > >
<br\>> > > > > > Whoo boy thats a good deal for a "classic
<br\>> > > analog synthesizer"
<br\>> > > > > >
<br\>> > > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> __________________________________________________
<br\>> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
<br\>> > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
<br\>> > > protection around
<br\>> > > > http://mail.yahoo.com <http://mail.yahoo.com>
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi, the MemCard (shortly to have a new name) will soon be manufactured
<br\>and sold by - www.atariservice.com
<br\>
<br\>Also, the all new AtariVox will soon be back in the AtariAge store
<br\>(Albert should receive the PCB's in a couple of week).
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Richard Hutchinson
<br\>
<br\>(www.vectrex.biz)
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Word.  I have my memory stick as well and my Krocodile Kart came a few
<br\>weeks ago so let me know if you need some BETA testing!!!
<br\>ROOPCART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  (BTW, you should "officially" call it that
<br\>just to fuck with everyone.
<br\>
<br\>-b
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hey,
<br\>>
<br\>> I still have the flash memory stick I bought frome the Vectex guy like
<br\>>  a yeaar and a half ago, so good news indeed!
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Andy Tolley <airport71@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > it's not even a modded 2600...ughhh
<br\>> >
<br\>> > paul: as for the loopcart, definitely keep us in the - ahhh - loop
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I'd like a cart soon!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -A
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > ha! that's great.  Nice clip.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > btw, on the airplane back from holland I split the loopcart into 2
<br\>> > > banks
<br\>> > > so I can add the rest of the features.  I'm swamped again, but
<br\>> > > hopefully
<br\>> > > I'll find more time to work on it soon.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -paul
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0QQ\
<br\>itemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATARI-2600-SYNTHCART-ANALOG-SYNTHESIZER-MOOG-ARP-LSDJ_W0Q\
<br\>QitemZ140008863938QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29552QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > Whoo boy thats a good deal for a "classic analog synthesizer"
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > __________________________________________________
<br\>> > Do You Yahoo!?
<br\>> > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
<br\>> > http://mail.yahoo.com
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi everyone,
<br\>Just wondering if anyone has had a go at attempting to run loopcart on a PAL
<br\>2600 using
<br\>Richard Hutchinson's VecFlash, a VecFlash adaptor cable and a 2600 board with
<br\>socket
<br\>from Atariage...
<br\>
<br\>Richard seems to think this sort of setup should work in theory with a 2600 (I
<br\>have had no
<br\>luck thus far...) and apparently it has been tested on the Colecovision
<br\>
<br\>VecFlash:
<br\>http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_1.htm
<br\>
<br\>VecFlash adaptor cable:
<br\>http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_7.htm
<br\>
<br\>Sorry if this sort of question has been dealt with already.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks for your time,
<br\>
<br\>Seb Tomczak
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Interesting, so you use the Vecflash as an EPROM emulator.
<br\>
<br\>It should work with the version currently on my page.  But I've recently
<br\>converted the Loopcart to 8K, so you'll need a bankswitching board for
<br\>it to work when I start releasing new versions (that's assuming the
<br\>Vecflash can emulate an 8K EPROM).
<br\>
<br\>I wanted to keep it under 4K so it would work on the Supercharger, but
<br\>it was taking so much time optimizing to keep it under 4K, and I figured
<br\>it was better just to bump it up to 8K and get it finished sooner.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>sebastian_tomczak wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi everyone,
<br\>> Just wondering if anyone has had a go at attempting to run loopcart on a
<br\>> PAL 2600 using
<br\>> Richard Hutchinson's VecFlash, a VecFlash adaptor cable and a 2600 board
<br\>> with socket
<br\>> from Atariage...
<br\>>
<br\>> Richard seems to think this sort of setup should work in theory with a
<br\>> 2600 (I have had no
<br\>> luck thus far...) and apparently it has been tested on the Colecovision
<br\>>
<br\>> VecFlash:
<br\>> http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_1.htm
<br\>> <http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_1.htm>
<br\>>
<br\>> VecFlash adaptor cable:
<br\>> http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_7.htm
<br\>> <http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_7.htm>
<br\>>
<br\>> Sorry if this sort of question has been dealt with already.
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks for your time,
<br\>>
<br\>> Seb Tomczak
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Well, I got the 4K version running using the VecFlash... thanks to Richard's
<br\>help for that
<br\>one. Will try out the 8K when it arrives, should be fun.
<br\>
<br\>Seb
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Interesting, so you use the Vecflash as an EPROM emulator.
<br\>>
<br\>> It should work with the version currently on my page.  But I've recently
<br\>> converted the Loopcart to 8K, so you'll need a bankswitching board for
<br\>> it to work when I start releasing new versions (that's assuming the
<br\>> Vecflash can emulate an 8K EPROM).
<br\>>
<br\>> I wanted to keep it under 4K so it would work on the Supercharger, but
<br\>> it was taking so much time optimizing to keep it under 4K, and I figured
<br\>> it was better just to bump it up to 8K and get it finished sooner.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> sebastian_tomczak wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hi everyone,
<br\>> > Just wondering if anyone has had a go at attempting to run loopcart on a
<br\>> > PAL 2600 using
<br\>> > Richard Hutchinson's VecFlash, a VecFlash adaptor cable and a 2600 board
<br\>> > with socket
<br\>> > from Atariage...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Richard seems to think this sort of setup should work in theory with a
<br\>> > 2600 (I have had no
<br\>> > luck thus far...) and apparently it has been tested on the Colecovision
<br\>> >
<br\>> > VecFlash:
<br\>> > http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_1.htm
<br\>> > <http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_1.htm>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > VecFlash adaptor cable:
<br\>> > http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_7.htm
<br\>> > <http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_7.htm>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Sorry if this sort of question has been dealt with already.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Thanks for your time,
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Seb Tomczak
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
SynthCart /Atari 2600 Rotary, patch select, switch mod

SubjectSrt:
SynthCart /Atari 2600 Rotary, patch select, switch mod

Message:
<br\>
Hey Just got my Synthcart...heaps of FUN!!! Thanks Paul!!
<br\>
<br\>On the subject of modding the Atari, I did the pin 13 line out (w
<br\>filter cap ect), Put the two menu select buttons on the front section
<br\>(woodie bit) & a rotary patch select switch, insted of the 3 button sw
<br\>matrix to get the patches...
<br\>
<br\>It works great & is SO much easier to select the different patches...
<br\>
<br\>I used a 1 pole / 12 position rotary switch ( set @ postion 8)
<br\>
<br\>I have added the schematic to the 'file' section...
<br\>
<br\>OR
<br\>
<br\>http://ktronik.com/images/synthcart1.jpg
<br\>
<br\>Any questions please forward to:
<br\>
<br\>kerry@ktronik.com
<br\>


Subject:
Re: commodore 64 moog midi interface ebay auction

Message:
<br\>
I actually won this auction way back in November, with the intention
<br\>of using its CV triggers to interface synthcart to MIDI through the
<br\>C64, but have since neglected it, until I just saw one go for $400AUD
<br\>on eBay (Item 250018978029) and have decided that the four hundred
<br\>would be a lot more useful to me right now than the interface - it is
<br\>very cool though, adds multiple MIDI IN / OUTs and CV triggers / clock
<br\>to your C64! contact me if interested...
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chucklarge2000"
<br\><chucklarge2000@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>>   I read some messages here about posting ebay auctions and think
<br\>this will be ok. if not, i apologize.
<br\>> chuck
<br\>>
<br\>> MOOG song producer midi interface 4 Commodore 64
<br\>> Item number: 7365225221
<br\>> Ends Nov-16-05 12:51:55 PST
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: commodore 64 moog midi interface ebay auction

Message:
<br\>
Just as a clarification... I don't have the money now to buy the device. I
<br\>would still buy the schematics if possible.
<br\>Thanks again,
<br\>Jose
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey,
<br\>
<br\>Ive seen those go for like $40 a auction for years... that midi
<br\>interface kinda sucks cause it doesnt work with as many programs as a
<br\>passport or sequential interface, but it is neat if you have something
<br\>analog you want to midify. I have a sequential I might end up selling
<br\>if anyone is intersted, or you can make one using these shcematics:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.df.lth.se/~triad/triad/ftp/MIDI/C64MIDI-INTERFACE.TXT
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel O'Shea" <dan@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I actually won this auction way back in November, with the intention
<br\>> of using its CV triggers to interface synthcart to MIDI through the
<br\>> C64, but have since neglected it, until I just saw one go for $400AUD
<br\>> on eBay (Item 250018978029) and have decided that the four hundred
<br\>> would be a lot more useful to me right now than the interface - it is
<br\>> very cool though, adds multiple MIDI IN / OUTs and CV triggers / clock
<br\>> to your C64! contact me if interested...
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chucklarge2000"
<br\>> <chucklarge2000@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hi,
<br\>> >   I read some messages here about posting ebay auctions and think
<br\>> this will be ok. if not, i apologize.
<br\>> > chuck
<br\>> >
<br\>> > MOOG song producer midi interface 4 Commodore 64
<br\>> > Item number: 7365225221
<br\>> > Ends Nov-16-05 12:51:55 PST
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>I took a look at your auction and I noticed there were some schematics
<br\>displaying the part numbers and layout. I would really appreciate a copy of
<br\>those schematics. Would it be possible for you to supply a copy at a price?
<br\>I am an electronic hobbist and would love to build one of those as a weekend
<br\>project. I'll even provide tutorials on my site: 8bitcollective.com for
<br\>those who are interested. I really don't have the money now to buy it but
<br\>otherwise I really would.
<br\>Thanks in advance,
<br\>Jose Torres
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On 8/27/06, Daniel O'Shea <dan@ozramp.net.au> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>    I actually won this auction way back in November, with the intention
<br\>> of using its CV triggers to interface synthcart to MIDI through the
<br\>> C64, but have since neglected it, until I just saw one go for $400AUD
<br\>> on eBay (Item 250018978029) and have decided that the four hundred
<br\>> would be a lot more useful to me right now than the interface - it is
<br\>> very cool though, adds multiple MIDI IN / OUTs and CV triggers / clock
<br\>> to your C64! contact me if interested...
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com <synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>,
<br\>> "chucklarge2000"
<br\>>
<br\>> <chucklarge2000@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hi,
<br\>> > I read some messages here about posting ebay auctions and think
<br\>> this will be ok. if not, i apologize.
<br\>> > chuck
<br\>> >
<br\>> > MOOG song producer midi interface 4 Commodore 64
<br\>> > Item number: 7365225221
<br\>> > Ends Nov-16-05 12:51:55 PST
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
...you're correct that the interface has its downside, the thing is
<br\>that it's intended to turn the C64 into a MIDI / CV processor to
<br\>control other digital & analogue synths rather than the C64 itself
<br\>being the synth, which is why it has so much CV interfacing and four
<br\>(!) discrete MIDI outs - if you saw one go for $40 then you
<br\>definately should have snatched it up!!
<br\>
<br\>Jose, I'll try and get the schematics copied for you when I can,
<br\>they're huge though! E-Mail me your postal address and when I get a
<br\>chance I'll send a photocopy...
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hey,
<br\>>
<br\>> Ive seen those go for like $40 a auction for years... that midi
<br\>> interface kinda sucks cause it doesnt work with as many programs
<br\>as a
<br\>> passport or sequential interface, but it is neat if you have
<br\>something
<br\>> analog you want to midify. I have a sequential I might end up
<br\>selling
<br\>> if anyone is intersted, or you can make one using these shcematics:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.df.lth.se/~triad/triad/ftp/MIDI/C64MIDI-INTERFACE.TXT
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel O'Shea" <dan@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I actually won this auction way back in November, with the
<br\>intention
<br\>> > of using its CV triggers to interface synthcart to MIDI through
<br\>the
<br\>> > C64, but have since neglected it, until I just saw one go for
<br\>$400AUD
<br\>> > on eBay (Item 250018978029) and have decided that the four
<br\>hundred
<br\>> > would be a lot more useful to me right now than the interface -
<br\>it is
<br\>> > very cool though, adds multiple MIDI IN / OUTs and CV triggers /
<br\>clock
<br\>> > to your C64! contact me if interested...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chucklarge2000"
<br\>> > <chucklarge2000@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Hi,
<br\>> > >   I read some messages here about posting ebay auctions and
<br\>think
<br\>> > this will be ok. if not, i apologize.
<br\>> > > chuck
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > MOOG song producer midi interface 4 Commodore 64
<br\>> > > Item number: 7365225221
<br\>> > > Ends Nov-16-05 12:51:55 PST
<br\>


Subject:
Help getting started with emulated SynthCart

SubjectSrt:
Help getting started with emulated SynthCart

Message:
<br\>
I recently downloaded Paul Slocum's Music Kit 2.0 and followed all of Michael
<br\>Barber's
<br\>instructions for getting it to run in Mac OS 9. It seems to run A-OK--I can
<br\>listen to the
<br\>demo song all I want--but I can't seem to figure out how to create my own song.
<br\>From
<br\>reading Michael Barber's instructions it sounds like I'm just supposed to modify
<br\>the file
<br\>"song.h" using MPW. I've done so but it doesn't seem to affect the demo song.
<br\>The other
<br\>thing that seems to not be working is that, even though I entered the line of
<br\>code that the
<br\>instructions gave me, no file called "helloworld.bin" has appeared anywhere on
<br\>my
<br\>computer. Can anyone help me here? What am I doing wrong?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello new here,
<br\>
<br\>I wonder if is possible to have 6 voices polyphony with the synthcart
<br\>/ cynthcart?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>maybe two ataris or two c64? double sids?
<br\>
<br\>Thank you
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
The Cynthcart already supports dual SIDs (via the SID symphony) but it
<br\>currently only supports a stereo chorus mode.  I plan to add more later.
<br\>
<br\>Making a dual-TIA Atari would be difficult, but you can always just use
<br\>2 or more Ataris, which I've done before.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Chivigon wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hello new here,
<br\>>
<br\>> I wonder if is possible to have 6 voices polyphony with the synthcart
<br\>> / cynthcart?
<br\>>
<br\>> maybe two ataris or two c64? double sids?
<br\>>
<br\>> Thank you
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Help getting started with emulated SynthCart

Message:
<br\>
You have to re-assemble the binary to hear the results, which sounds
<br\>like it's not working (since the new .bin file isn't appearing).  But I
<br\>use a PC so I'm not the best person to help with this.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>go_children_slow wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I recently downloaded Paul Slocum's Music Kit 2.0 and followed all of
<br\>> Michael Barber's
<br\>> instructions for getting it to run in Mac OS 9. It seems to run
<br\>> A-OK--I can listen to the
<br\>> demo song all I want--but I can't seem to figure out how to create my
<br\>> own song. From
<br\>> reading Michael Barber's instructions it sounds like I'm just supposed
<br\>> to modify the file
<br\>> "song.h" using MPW. I've done so but it doesn't seem to affect the
<br\>> demo song. The other
<br\>> thing that seems to not be working is that, even though I entered the
<br\>> line of code that the
<br\>> instructions gave me, no file called "helloworld.bin" has appeared
<br\>> anywhere on my
<br\>> computer. Can anyone help me here? What am I doing wrong?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Do you have the option for running it in os x? If you do I've been
<br\>writing a tutorial for that os, but if you only have 9, unfortunately
<br\>i don't know.
<br\>The OS X setup is actually easier to do, in my opinion. (I've read the
<br\>os 9 tutorial and it seems a bit daunting)
<br\>
<br\>daniel
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "go_children_slow"
<br\><lee_mansfield@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I recently downloaded Paul Slocum's Music Kit 2.0 and followed all
<br\>of Michael Barber's
<br\>> instructions for getting it to run in Mac OS 9. It seems to run
<br\>A-OK--I can listen to the
<br\>> demo song all I want--but I can't seem to figure out how to create
<br\>my own song. From
<br\>> reading Michael Barber's instructions it sounds like I'm just
<br\>supposed to modify the file
<br\>> "song.h" using MPW. I've done so but it doesn't seem to affect the
<br\>demo song. The other
<br\>> thing that seems to not be working is that, even though I entered
<br\>the line of code that the
<br\>> instructions gave me, no file called "helloworld.bin" has appeared
<br\>anywhere on my
<br\>> computer. Can anyone help me here? What am I doing wrong?
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Cool. I'll look into that. And, hey, what a treat to hear from the man behind
<br\>the software!
<br\>I'm really looking forward to using it once I get this figured out. Thank you so
<br\>much for
<br\>creating it! :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> You have to re-assemble the binary to hear the results, which sounds
<br\>> like it's not working (since the new .bin file isn't appearing).  But I
<br\>> use a PC so I'm not the best person to help with this.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> go_children_slow wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I recently downloaded Paul Slocum's Music Kit 2.0 and followed all of
<br\>> > Michael Barber's
<br\>> > instructions for getting it to run in Mac OS 9. It seems to run
<br\>> > A-OK--I can listen to the
<br\>> > demo song all I want--but I can't seem to figure out how to create my
<br\>> > own song. From
<br\>> > reading Michael Barber's instructions it sounds like I'm just supposed
<br\>> > to modify the file
<br\>> > "song.h" using MPW. I've done so but it doesn't seem to affect the
<br\>> > demo song. The other
<br\>> > thing that seems to not be working is that, even though I entered the
<br\>> > line of code that the
<br\>> > instructions gave me, no file called "helloworld.bin" has appeared
<br\>> > anywhere on my
<br\>> > computer. Can anyone help me here? What am I doing wrong?
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yup, I have OS X, I was just under the impression that Synth Cart could only run
<br\>in OS 9 or
<br\>in Classic. If it works in OS X that's way better actually! What do I need to do
<br\>to get it up
<br\>and running?
<br\>
<br\>-Lee
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Dano" <esto_festo2@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Do you have the option for running it in os x? If you do I've been
<br\>> writing a tutorial for that os, but if you only have 9, unfortunately
<br\>> i don't know.
<br\>> The OS X setup is actually easier to do, in my opinion. (I've read the
<br\>> os 9 tutorial and it seems a bit daunting)
<br\>>
<br\>> daniel
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "go_children_slow"
<br\>> <lee_mansfield@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I recently downloaded Paul Slocum's Music Kit 2.0 and followed all
<br\>> of Michael Barber's
<br\>> > instructions for getting it to run in Mac OS 9. It seems to run
<br\>> A-OK--I can listen to the
<br\>> > demo song all I want--but I can't seem to figure out how to create
<br\>> my own song. From
<br\>> > reading Michael Barber's instructions it sounds like I'm just
<br\>> supposed to modify the file
<br\>> > "song.h" using MPW. I've done so but it doesn't seem to affect the
<br\>> demo song. The other
<br\>> > thing that seems to not be working is that, even though I entered
<br\>> the line of code that the
<br\>> > instructions gave me, no file called "helloworld.bin" has appeared
<br\>> anywhere on my
<br\>> > computer. Can anyone help me here? What am I doing wrong?
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've posted a short guide for using the music kit on OS X in the files section.
<br\>Its mostly info
<br\>on how to make the .bin files plus some helpful info on makewav for OS X.
<br\>
<br\>daniel
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey,
<br\>
<br\>I just got a gp2x, and it makes me hunger for another loopcart update...
<br\>
<br\>will check if cynthcart can run on it as well later..
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "2wm" <killradio_13@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > > sweet. one more thing to play with on a gp32.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --2wm
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > Well, i was talking about the gp2x, but i'm sure it would work on
<br\>> > whatever gameboy emu the gp32 has. And apparently, someone found a way
<br\>> > to get a "midi out" plug for the gp32:
<br\>> > http://www.gp32x.com/index.php?artc=2385
<br\>> > No idea if it has midi in also, or if it would work with the nanoloop
<br\>> > demo rom....
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> yeah, i know. i got a gp32 mainly so i could use lgpt. and testing
<br\>> hadn't started on the gp2x yet. i wonder if i should have waited...
<br\>>
<br\>> --2wm
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
speaking of gp2x and music trackers...
<br\>Keep an eye on the latest GP2X MIDI  news:
<br\>http://community.livejournal.com/littlegptracker/
<br\>
<br\>Real midi on the GP2X is getting closer and closer...
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hey,
<br\>>
<br\>> I just got a gp2x, and it makes me hunger for another loopcart update...
<br\>>
<br\>> will check if cynthcart can run on it as well later..
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "2wm" <killradio_13@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > > sweet. one more thing to play with on a gp32.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > --2wm
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > Well, i was talking about the gp2x, but i'm sure it would work on
<br\>> > > whatever gameboy emu the gp32 has. And apparently, someone found
<br\>a way
<br\>> > > to get a "midi out" plug for the gp32:
<br\>> > > http://www.gp32x.com/index.php?artc=2385
<br\>> > > No idea if it has midi in also, or if it would work with the
<br\>nanoloop
<br\>> > > demo rom....
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -justin
<br\>> > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > yeah, i know. i got a gp32 mainly so i could use lgpt. and testing
<br\>> > hadn't started on the gp2x yet. i wonder if i should have waited...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --2wm
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello.
<br\>
<br\>As awesome as midi is, I am really intersted in sound generation on
<br\>gp2x. I love program like lsdj too much to always want to drag a sound
<br\>making box around with my "portable" sequencer
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> speaking of gp2x and music trackers...
<br\>> Keep an eye on the latest GP2X MIDI  news:
<br\>> http://community.livejournal.com/littlegptracker/
<br\>>
<br\>> Real midi on the GP2X is getting closer and closer...
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\>> <kradlabs@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hey,
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I just got a gp2x, and it makes me hunger for another loopcart
<br\>update...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > will check if cynthcart can run on it as well later..
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "2wm" <killradio_13@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > > > sweet. one more thing to play with on a gp32.
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > --2wm
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > Well, i was talking about the gp2x, but i'm sure it would work on
<br\>> > > > whatever gameboy emu the gp32 has. And apparently, someone found
<br\>> a way
<br\>> > > > to get a "midi out" plug for the gp32:
<br\>> > > > http://www.gp32x.com/index.php?artc=2385
<br\>> > > > No idea if it has midi in also, or if it would work with the
<br\>> nanoloop
<br\>> > > > demo rom....
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > -justin
<br\>> > > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > yeah, i know. i got a gp32 mainly so i could use lgpt. and testing
<br\>> > > hadn't started on the gp2x yet. i wonder if i should have waited...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --2wm
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Dano" <esto_festo2@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I've posted a short guide for using the music kit on OS X in the files
<br\>section. Its mostly
<br\>info
<br\>> on how to make the .bin files plus some helpful info on makewav for OS X.
<br\>>
<br\>> daniel
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>Hi Dano,
<br\>
<br\>Thank you so much for posting these instructions. Unfortunately, I know nothing
<br\>about
<br\>Terminal at all so I haven't been able to get Synthcart up and running. Do you
<br\>happen to
<br\>know of any good resources for learning how to use Terminal? Any help you can
<br\>give me
<br\>in this area would be gretly appreciated. Thanks!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>I noticed the link (on qotileDOTnet) to "tim's instructions" for building your
<br\>own keyboard
<br\>controllers is dead.  I'm thinking about making my own & was wondering if this
<br\>still existed
<br\>somewhere.  I checked out the schematic but my memory has faded since the one
<br\>jr. high
<br\>electronics class i took & schematics tend to confuse me... Does anyone know
<br\>where "tim's
<br\>instructions" can be found?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks!
<br\>-sean
<br\>
<br\>p.s. i'm planning a modding project & was wondering if anyone has used the 8bit
<br\>domain a/v
<br\>direct kit with an atari that has been chopped down to 4"x4" as described on
<br\>"ben's how to
<br\>page".  Am I better off doing the a/v mod myself?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey everybody i just got my atari 2600 w/ synthcart off ebay and im
<br\>tryin to get it work but im having some problems.  i plugged the power
<br\>supply in, hooked up the rf adapter to the atari then to my tv, put
<br\>the cartridge in, the controllers, then i set the rf switch to game
<br\>and my tv cut out and went to a blue screen which im assuming is
<br\>right, then i flip the power switch and nothing happens...i tried all
<br\>different channels namely 3, 4 nothing...how can i tell if my atari
<br\>even turned on? i also noticed a channel a b switch on the bottom i
<br\>flip it and checked around the channels on my tv still nuthin..is
<br\>there somethin im doing wrong? i hope its not the atari...man i really
<br\>wanted to play with this tonight
<br\>
<br\>i emailed the guy who sold it to me saying something similar to this
<br\>
<br\>any help would be greatly appreciated...thanks
<br\>
<br\>Matt
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ahhh nevermind everyone i think i got it figured out...the polarity
<br\>was wrong on the power supply....well if anything else goes wrong ill
<br\>be back
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello chipsound fellows ;)
<br\>
<br\>I just got on the hook with C64 Cynthcart - supercool, I love it.
<br\>Now I like to mod a breadbox just for using Cynthcart and therefore make use of
<br\>the stated
<br\>"replacement for the C64 BASIC ROM (so the C64 always boots to the Cynthcart)".
<br\>
<br\>I made a working 2764 EPROM adaptor (cloned C64 BASIC ROM works off that slot
<br\>already)
<br\>but now I'm in trouble how to get the cynth11.prg starting from the EPROM. What
<br\>has to be
<br\>done to get the Kernal boot sequence to start the program? Is it just adding a
<br\>proper header
<br\>before the program starts and if so, what's the vectors to be applied there?
<br\>
<br\>I just couldn't find any resource about replacing the C64 BASIC ROM with some
<br\>other
<br\>program so I was wondering if anyone here knows little more about this issue.
<br\>
<br\>TX in advance and bleeps to you guys :)
<br\>
<br\>  ron.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I answered my own question eventually.
<br\>I was missing the vcs.h file.
<br\>
<br\>I'll post here if I ever come up with anything useable.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Greetings all for the new year.
<br\>
<br\>I'm thinking of reassembling synthcart to include some custom beatbox
<br\>patterns.
<br\>
<br\>Also I'm thinking of looking into changing the instument combinations
<br\>created with the difficulty switches, and the default arp and scale
<br\>settings at startup.
<br\>
<br\>Anyway, the first big question I have is compiling.  I'm trying to use
<br\>DASM.EXE to compile the source code and my BIN is only ending up with
<br\>258 bytes so am I using the wrong compiler or are there arguments I'm
<br\>missing beyond pointing to the .ASM?
<br\>
<br\>haha I'm an idiot.
<br\>
<br\>Love,
<br\>Bud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
sorry for the late reply -- I got really backed up on email.  I can't
<br\>remember exactly what you have to do to get it to work, but it won't
<br\>work by burning the PRG.
<br\>
<br\>below is a link to an older version that I think should work.
<br\>
<br\>I had bad luck using the BASIC ROM method because it was too fragile.
<br\>It was too easy for the socket adapter to come a little loose from the
<br\>socket, especially when traveling.  I got one of those adapters that
<br\>lets you use two cartridges at once to use the Cynthcart and SID
<br\>Symphony for stereo.
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/temp/cnth1031.basic
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>mdzron wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hello chipsound fellows ;)
<br\>>
<br\>> I just got on the hook with C64 Cynthcart - supercool, I love it.
<br\>> Now I like to mod a breadbox just for using Cynthcart and therefore
<br\>> make use of the stated
<br\>> "replacement for the C64 BASIC ROM (so the C64 always boots to the
<br\>> Cynthcart)".
<br\>>
<br\>> I made a working 2764 EPROM adaptor (cloned C64 BASIC ROM works off
<br\>> that slot already)
<br\>> but now I'm in trouble how to get the cynth11.prg starting from the
<br\>> EPROM. What has to be
<br\>> done to get the Kernal boot sequence to start the program? Is it just
<br\>> adding a proper header
<br\>> before the program starts and if so, what's the vectors to be applied
<br\>> there?
<br\>>
<br\>> I just couldn't find any resource about replacing the C64 BASIC ROM
<br\>> with some other
<br\>> program so I was wondering if anyone here knows little more about this
<br\>> issue.
<br\>>
<br\>> TX in advance and bleeps to you guys :)
<br\>>
<br\>> ron.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks for your reply and the link, Paul!
<br\>
<br\>Seems like the program has to be burned starting at $A483 [=$0483 without the
<br\>BASIC
<br\>memory offset), which -now- is obvious 'cause that's the address for the
<br\>warmstart
<br\>routine?
<br\>
<br\>I'll be trying to do this with the PRG and let you guys know about it..
<br\>
<br\>> I had bad luck using the BASIC ROM method because it was too fragile.
<br\>> It was too easy for the socket adapter to come a little loose from the
<br\>> socket, especially when traveling.
<br\>
<br\>Really? I got no problems with my homebrew adaptor. As being said, I'm running
<br\>the
<br\>cloned BASIC ROM out off the adaptor already. I've been traveling 800 kilometers
<br\>recently,
<br\>no complaints.
<br\>
<br\>looks like this:
<br\>
<br\>http://ronny-james-disco.de/external/cynthcart/IMGP6104.JPG
<br\>
<br\>http://ronny-james-disco.de/external/cynthcart/IMGP6110.JPG
<br\>
<br\>> SID  Symphony for stereo.
<br\>
<br\>That's gonna be for shure my next mod ;)
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://highlyliquid.com/kits/midi2600/
<br\>
<br\>MIDI-to-Joystick / MIDI-to-Keypad Adapter for Atari 2600
<br\>
<br\>$44.95 (Internal), $47.95 (External) - Buy Now
<br\>Assembly Service: Add $29.95
<br\>
<br\>In Stock: Ships Friday, January 12th
<br\>
<br\>Applications
<br\>
<br\>     * MIDI control for Synthcart synthesizer cartridge—more info
<br\>     * MIDI-scripted & synchronized game performances
<br\>
<br\>Features
<br\>
<br\>     * Use MIDI notes to send joystick or keypad control signals to any
<br\>Atari 2600 console
<br\>     * Additional outputs for Select & Reset control
<br\>     * Powered by game console—no separate power supply required
<br\>     * User-selected MIDI channel
<br\>     * Power and activity LEDs
<br\>     * Compact size: 83mm x 57mm (3.25" x 2.25")
<br\>
<br\>MIDI2600
<br\>MIDI2600-Internal Kit Contents
<br\>
<br\>MIDI2600-Internal
<br\>
<br\>For installation inside console.
<br\>
<br\>Kit Contents:
<br\>
<br\>     * Printed circuit board
<br\>     * Pre-programmed microcontroller
<br\>     * All required components and mounting hardware
<br\>     * Panel-mount MIDI jack & LED panel bezels
<br\>     * Hook-up wire (not shown)
<br\>
<br\>Optional Accessory:
<br\>
<br\>     * Switchcraft 1/4" phone jack (not shown)
<br\>
<br\>MIDI2600
<br\>MIDI2600-External Kit Contents
<br\>
<br\>MIDI2600-External
<br\>
<br\>For connection to console via joystick cables.*
<br\>
<br\>Kit Contents:
<br\>
<br\>     * Printed circuit board
<br\>     * Pre-programmed microcontroller
<br\>     * All required components
<br\>     * PCB-mount MIDI jack
<br\>     * 2 x PCB-mount female DE-9 connector
<br\>     * Terminal block (Select & Reset output)
<br\>
<br\>* Requires 2 x DE-9 extension cable, not included. Sega Genesis
<br\>controller extension cables are compatible.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
wow this is great
<br\>
<br\>any way to play notes on an external MIDI keyboard?
<br\>
<br\>--- PeLeSwi <kradlabs@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> http://highlyliquid.com/kits/midi2600/
<br\>>
<br\>> MIDI-to-Joystick / MIDI-to-Keypad Adapter for Atari 2600
<br\>>
<br\>> $44.95 (Internal), $47.95 (External) - Buy Now
<br\>> Assembly Service: Add $29.95
<br\>>
<br\>> In Stock: Ships Friday, January 12th
<br\>>
<br\>> Applications
<br\>>
<br\>>     * MIDI control for Synthcart synthesizer cartridge—more info
<br\>>     * MIDI-scripted & synchronized game performances
<br\>>
<br\>> Features
<br\>>
<br\>>     * Use MIDI notes to send joystick or keypad control signals to any
<br\>> Atari 2600 console
<br\>>     * Additional outputs for Select & Reset control
<br\>>     * Powered by game console—no separate power supply required
<br\>>     * User-selected MIDI channel
<br\>>     * Power and activity LEDs
<br\>>     * Compact size: 83mm x 57mm (3.25" x 2.25")
<br\>>
<br\>> MIDI2600
<br\>> MIDI2600-Internal Kit Contents
<br\>>
<br\>> MIDI2600-Internal
<br\>>
<br\>> For installation inside console.
<br\>>
<br\>> Kit Contents:
<br\>>
<br\>>     * Printed circuit board
<br\>>     * Pre-programmed microcontroller
<br\>>     * All required components and mounting hardware
<br\>>     * Panel-mount MIDI jack & LED panel bezels
<br\>>     * Hook-up wire (not shown)
<br\>>
<br\>> Optional Accessory:
<br\>>
<br\>>     * Switchcraft 1/4" phone jack (not shown)
<br\>>
<br\>> MIDI2600
<br\>> MIDI2600-External Kit Contents
<br\>>
<br\>> MIDI2600-External
<br\>>
<br\>> For connection to console via joystick cables.*
<br\>>
<br\>> Kit Contents:
<br\>>
<br\>>     * Printed circuit board
<br\>>     * Pre-programmed microcontroller
<br\>>     * All required components
<br\>>     * PCB-mount MIDI jack
<br\>>     * 2 x PCB-mount female DE-9 connector
<br\>>     * Terminal block (Select & Reset output)
<br\>>
<br\>> * Requires 2 x DE-9 extension cable, not included. Sega Genesis
<br\>> controller extension cables are compatible.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>________________________________________________________________________________\
<br\>____
<br\>Have a burning question?
<br\>Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Andy Tolley <airport71@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> wow this is great
<br\>>
<br\>> any way to play notes on an external MIDI keyboard?
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>yup:
<br\>
<br\>http://highlyliquid.com/kits/midi2600/midi-implementation.html
<br\>
<br\>Keypad Button Left Controller Right Controller
<br\>MIDI Note Number  Note MIDI Note Number  Note
<br\>1 60 C4 72 C5
<br\>2 61 C#4 73 C#5
<br\>3 62 D4 74 D5
<br\>4 63 D#4 75 D#5
<br\>5 64 E4 76 E5
<br\>6 65 F4 77 F5
<br\>7 66 F#4 78 F#5
<br\>8 67 G4 79 G5
<br\>9 68 G#4 80 G#5
<br\>* 69 A4 81 A5
<br\>0 70 A#4 82 A#5
<br\># 71 B4 83 B5
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I have been looking for a way to use both the SynthCart and the MidiNES
<br\>(http://www.wayfar.net/0xf00000_overview.php) with my QY-100
<br\>(http://www.zzounds.com/item--YAMQY100) at the same time. The
<br\>HighlyLiquid kit would be the solution! But before I buy it I need to to
<br\>find some sort of midi splitter/processor to hook both units up to.
<br\>Which may prove to be hard since the only one that I am aware of is
<br\>discontinued (http://www.philrees.co.uk/products/process.htm). Any ideas?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>PeLeSwi wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>,
<br\>> Andy Tolley <airport71@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > wow this is great
<br\>> >
<br\>> > any way to play notes on an external MIDI keyboard?
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> yup:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://highlyliquid.com/kits/midi2600/midi-implementation.html
<br\>> <http://highlyliquid.com/kits/midi2600/midi-implementation.html>
<br\>>
<br\>> Keypad Button Left Controller Right Controller
<br\>> MIDI Note Number Note MIDI Note Number Note
<br\>> 1 60 C4 72 C5
<br\>> 2 61 C#4 73 C#5
<br\>> 3 62 D4 74 D5
<br\>> 4 63 D#4 75 D#5
<br\>> 5 64 E4 76 E5
<br\>> 6 65 F4 77 F5
<br\>> 7 66 F#4 78 F#5
<br\>> 8 67 G4 79 G5
<br\>> 9 68 G#4 80 G#5
<br\>> * 69 A4 81 A5
<br\>> 0 70 A#4 82 A#5
<br\>> # 71 B4 83 B5
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Spencer Thayer <Spencer@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I have been looking for a way to use both the SynthCart and the MidiNES
<br\>> (http://www.wayfar.net/0xf00000_overview.php) with my QY-100
<br\>> (http://www.zzounds.com/item--YAMQY100) at the same time. The
<br\>> HighlyLiquid kit would be the solution! But before I buy it I need
<br\>to to
<br\>> find some sort of midi splitter/processor to hook both units up to.
<br\>> Which may prove to be hard since the only one that I am aware of is
<br\>> discontinued (http://www.philrees.co.uk/products/process.htm). Any
<br\>ideas?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>What about this?
<br\>
<br\>http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/MIDI-Solutions-Quadra-4Output-MIDI-Thru-B\
<br\>ox?sku=702504
<br\>
<br\>Just put the devices on different channels and all should be fine.
<br\>
<br\>Ive seen smaller boxes, but at a greater price. Too much is always
<br\>better than not enough anyways.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
awesome!
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>PeLeSwi wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> http://highlyliquid.com/kits/midi2600/
<br\>> <http://highlyliquid.com/kits/midi2600/>
<br\>>
<br\>> MIDI-to-Joystick / MIDI-to-Keypad Adapter for Atari 2600
<br\>>
<br\>> $44.95 (Internal), $47.95 (External) - Buy Now
<br\>> Assembly Service: Add $29.95
<br\>>
<br\>> In Stock: Ships Friday, January 12th
<br\>>
<br\>> Applications
<br\>>
<br\>> * MIDI control for Synthcart synthesizer cartridge—more info
<br\>> * MIDI-scripted & synchronized game performances
<br\>>
<br\>> Features
<br\>>
<br\>> * Use MIDI notes to send joystick or keypad control signals to any
<br\>> Atari 2600 console
<br\>> * Additional outputs for Select & Reset control
<br\>> * Powered by game console—no separate power supply required
<br\>> * User-selected MIDI channel
<br\>> * Power and activity LEDs
<br\>> * Compact size: 83mm x 57mm (3.25" x 2.25")
<br\>>
<br\>> MIDI2600
<br\>> MIDI2600-Internal Kit Contents
<br\>>
<br\>> MIDI2600-Internal
<br\>>
<br\>> For installation inside console.
<br\>>
<br\>> Kit Contents:
<br\>>
<br\>> * Printed circuit board
<br\>> * Pre-programmed microcontroller
<br\>> * All required components and mounting hardware
<br\>> * Panel-mount MIDI jack & LED panel bezels
<br\>> * Hook-up wire (not shown)
<br\>>
<br\>> Optional Accessory:
<br\>>
<br\>> * Switchcraft 1/4" phone jack (not shown)
<br\>>
<br\>> MIDI2600
<br\>> MIDI2600-External Kit Contents
<br\>>
<br\>> MIDI2600-External
<br\>>
<br\>> For connection to console via joystick cables.*
<br\>>
<br\>> Kit Contents:
<br\>>
<br\>> * Printed circuit board
<br\>> * Pre-programmed microcontroller
<br\>> * All required components
<br\>> * PCB-mount MIDI jack
<br\>> * 2 x PCB-mount female DE-9 connector
<br\>> * Terminal block (Select & Reset output)
<br\>>
<br\>> * Requires 2 x DE-9 extension cable, not included. Sega Genesis
<br\>> controller extension cables are compatible.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks again, Paul, for the link to your basic rom package. Of course, that
<br\>version is
<br\>running but I'd really like to have the advanced 1.1 features inside ;)
<br\>
<br\>After fiddling with your 1031 basic I still had no luck in applying a basic ROM
<br\>replacement
<br\>patch on the current version. Maybe you remember what has to be done? What I
<br\>could see
<br\>after looking at the binary structure is like this:
<br\>
<br\>--------------------------------------------------------------
<br\>cnth1031.basic header disassembled:
<br\>
<br\>$0000 94 E3  ; pointing to kernal reset routine E394
<br\>
<br\>$0002  7B E3 ; pointing to kernal warmstart entry E37B
<br\>
<br\>$0004  0D A0 ; guess this points to where the hacked basic.rom is appearing
<br\>(starting at
<br\>$A000) - pointer to kernal subroutines (see $000D)
<br\>$0006  0D A0 ; same
<br\>
<br\>$0008  C3 C2 CD 38 30 ; Autostart command "CBM80" - but I think this is
<br\>redundant,
<br\>there's nothing at $8000?!?
<br\>
<br\>$000D  78 ; SEI - set interrupt mask
<br\>
<br\>$000E  20 84 FF ; jump to kernal subroutine FF84 = init I/O devices
<br\>
<br\>$0011  20 87 FF ; jump to kernal subroutine FF87 = init memory pointers
<br\>
<br\>$0014  20 8A FF ;  jump to kernal subroutine FF8A = restore I/O vectors
<br\>
<br\>$0017  20 81 FF ;  jump to kernal subroutine FF81 = initialise screen / keyboard
<br\>
<br\>$001A  58 ;  clear interrut mask
<br\>
<br\>$001B-0028  EA ; NOP - no operation (guess not to crash kernal routines looking
<br\>for
<br\>BASIC things around there?)
<br\>
<br\>$0029-0482  FF ; not used
<br\>
<br\>$0483  ; program starts here (ROM appearing at $A483 = standard BASIC warmstart
<br\>routine - guess this is where the Kernal is starting the program after init
<br\>sequences.
<br\>
<br\>$0CFA  ; end of program code (followed by FF to fill the 8K ROM)
<br\>
<br\>--------------------------------------------------------------
<br\>
<br\>However what comes now, how to put in program code after $0483?
<br\>
<br\>I think the basic starter (SYS 2061) has to be removed. How about absolute and
<br\>relative
<br\>addresses? Did you tweak them manually to get Cynthcart1031 running off the
<br\>BASIC
<br\>ROM? Could you maybe provide the unpatched Cynth1031.PRG so I may compare the
<br\>code
<br\>to solve the mystery?
<br\>
<br\>Besides running Cynthcart without a cartridge attached it would be nice to
<br\>improve
<br\>breadbox knowledge anyways ;)
<br\>
<br\>Thanks for your attention.
<br\>
<br\>ron.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Is there any difference in sound quality between the different models
<br\>of 2600? (using direct audio-out mod, no RF)
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>burnkit2600.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
sorry this took forever.  try this one.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>mdzron wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks again, Paul, for the link to your basic rom package. Of course,
<br\>> that version is
<br\>> running but I'd really like to have the advanced 1.1 features inside ;)
<br\>>
<br\>> After fiddling with your 1031 basic I still had no luck in applying a
<br\>> basic ROM replacement
<br\>> patch on the current version. Maybe you remember what has to be done?
<br\>> What I could see
<br\>> after looking at the binary structure is like this:
<br\>>
<br\>> ----------------------------------------------------------
<br\>> cnth1031.basic header disassembled:
<br\>>
<br\>> $0000 94 E3 ; pointing to kernal reset routine E394
<br\>>
<br\>> $0002 7B E3 ; pointing to kernal warmstart entry E37B
<br\>>
<br\>> $0004 0D A0 ; guess this points to where the hacked basic.rom is
<br\>> appearing (starting at
<br\>> $A000) - pointer to kernal subroutines (see $000D)
<br\>> $0006 0D A0 ; same
<br\>>
<br\>> $0008 C3 C2 CD 38 30 ; Autostart command "CBM80" - but I think this is
<br\>> redundant,
<br\>> there's nothing at $8000?!?
<br\>>
<br\>> $000D 78 ; SEI - set interrupt mask
<br\>>
<br\>> $000E 20 84 FF ; jump to kernal subroutine FF84 = init I/O devices
<br\>>
<br\>> $0011 20 87 FF ; jump to kernal subroutine FF87 = init memory pointers
<br\>>
<br\>> $0014 20 8A FF ; jump to kernal subroutine FF8A = restore I/O vectors
<br\>>
<br\>> $0017 20 81 FF ; jump to kernal subroutine FF81 = initialise screen /
<br\>> keyboard
<br\>>
<br\>> $001A 58 ; clear interrut mask
<br\>>
<br\>> $001B-0028 EA ; NOP - no operation (guess not to crash kernal routines
<br\>> looking for
<br\>> BASIC things around there?)
<br\>>
<br\>> $0029-0482 FF ; not used
<br\>>
<br\>> $0483 ; program starts here (ROM appearing at $A483 = standard BASIC
<br\>> warmstart
<br\>> routine - guess this is where the Kernal is starting the program after
<br\>> init sequences.
<br\>>
<br\>> $0CFA ; end of program code (followed by FF to fill the 8K ROM)
<br\>>
<br\>> ----------------------------------------------------------
<br\>>
<br\>> However what comes now, how to put in program code after $0483?
<br\>>
<br\>> I think the basic starter (SYS 2061) has to be removed. How about
<br\>> absolute and relative
<br\>> addresses? Did you tweak them manually to get Cynthcart1031 running
<br\>> off the BASIC
<br\>> ROM? Could you maybe provide the unpatched Cynth1031.PRG so I may
<br\>> compare the code
<br\>> to solve the mystery?
<br\>>
<br\>> Besides running Cynthcart without a cartridge attached it would be
<br\>> nice to improve
<br\>> breadbox knowledge anyways ;)
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks for your attention.
<br\>>
<br\>> ron.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi guys! I'm new here!
<br\>The cynthcart works on a PAL commodore64?? And how can I build the
<br\>paddle?? there is a schematic??
<br\>Thanks a lot!
<br\>peace
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I don't think there's any significant difference.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Is there any difference in sound quality between the different models
<br\>> of 2600? (using direct audio-out mod, no RF)
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> burnkit2600.com
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
It works on PAL.  The schematic for the pong paddle is here, except I'm
<br\>not sure about the value of the potentiometer.  I think it's 50 ohms for
<br\>the commodore, but I'm not totally sure.  You could probably just
<br\>experiment.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/2600/archives/schematics/Schematic_2600_Accessories_Low.\
<br\>html
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>lorenz_sony wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi guys! I'm new here!
<br\>> The cynthcart works on a PAL commodore64?? And how can I build the
<br\>> paddle?? there is a schematic??
<br\>> Thanks a lot!
<br\>> peace
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
oops, it stripped the attachment.  try here:
<br\>http://www.qotile.net/temp/cynth11.kernel
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> sorry this took forever. try this one.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> mdzron wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Thanks again, Paul, for the link to your basic rom package. Of course,
<br\>> > that version is
<br\>> > running but I'd really like to have the advanced 1.1 features inside ;)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > After fiddling with your 1031 basic I still had no luck in applying a
<br\>> > basic ROM replacement
<br\>> > patch on the current version. Maybe you remember what has to be done?
<br\>> > What I could see
<br\>> > after looking at the binary structure is like this:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
<br\>> > cnth1031.basic header disassembled:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $0000 94 E3 ; pointing to kernal reset routine E394
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $0002 7B E3 ; pointing to kernal warmstart entry E37B
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $0004 0D A0 ; guess this points to where the hacked basic.rom is
<br\>> > appearing (starting at
<br\>> > $A000) - pointer to kernal subroutines (see $000D)
<br\>> > $0006 0D A0 ; same
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $0008 C3 C2 CD 38 30 ; Autostart command "CBM80" - but I think this is
<br\>> > redundant,
<br\>> > there's nothing at $8000?!?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $000D 78 ; SEI - set interrupt mask
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $000E 20 84 FF ; jump to kernal subroutine FF84 = init I/O devices
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $0011 20 87 FF ; jump to kernal subroutine FF87 = init memory pointers
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $0014 20 8A FF ; jump to kernal subroutine FF8A = restore I/O vectors
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $0017 20 81 FF ; jump to kernal subroutine FF81 = initialise screen /
<br\>> > keyboard
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $001A 58 ; clear interrut mask
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $001B-0028 EA ; NOP - no operation (guess not to crash kernal routines
<br\>> > looking for
<br\>> > BASIC things around there?)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $0029-0482 FF ; not used
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $0483 ; program starts here (ROM appearing at $A483 = standard BASIC
<br\>> > warmstart
<br\>> > routine - guess this is where the Kernal is starting the program after
<br\>> > init sequences.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $0CFA ; end of program code (followed by FF to fill the 8K ROM)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
<br\>> >
<br\>> > However what comes now, how to put in program code after $0483?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I think the basic starter (SYS 2061) has to be removed. How about
<br\>> > absolute and relative
<br\>> > addresses? Did you tweak them manually to get Cynthcart1031 running
<br\>> > off the BASIC
<br\>> > ROM? Could you maybe provide the unpatched Cynth1031.PRG so I may
<br\>> > compare the code
<br\>> > to solve the mystery?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Besides running Cynthcart without a cartridge attached it would be
<br\>> > nice to improve
<br\>> > breadbox knowledge anyways ;)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Thanks for your attention.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > ron.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks again, Paul. I'll investigate on this one ;)
<br\>
<br\>Looking forward to get rid of the bothersome cart exostosis from my live
<br\>breadbox:
<br\>
<br\>http://tinyurl.com/2w6epy
<br\>
<br\>http://tinyurl.com/2m83u7
<br\>
<br\>http://tinyurl.com/2jybfo
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>;)
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
The only issue I experienced on my PAL C64 is the tuning appears to be slightly
<br\>too low. I
<br\>always have to set the tuning to -40 and play everything one semitown lower!
<br\>
<br\>I know two ways to get paddles on your C64:
<br\>
<br\>1) Using a 470K log pot:
<br\>
<br\>connect the pot terminals#1 and #3 to Joy port SUB-D #7 and #8. Terminal#2 (the
<br\>wiper)
<br\>to SUB-D #9.
<br\>
<br\>-----------------------> pin #8 (GND)
<br\>/
<br\>\ <--------------------> pin #9 (potx)
<br\>/
<br\>\
<br\>-----------------------> pin #7 (+5V)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>2) Using a 100K lin pot and 4.7nF capacitor:
<br\>
<br\>check this schematics
<br\>http://www.firestarter-music.de/prophetcart/pots2.jpg
<br\>
<br\>You´ll only need the pot connected to pin#5 (#9 = pot-y, not used with
<br\>cynthcart).
<br\>Terminal#1 and #2 are interconnected and terminal#3 goes to SUB-D #7. There's a
<br\>capacitor between SUB-D #5 and #8.
<br\>
<br\>This solution is little more explained there:
<br\>http://prophet64-forum.com/viewtopic.php?id=173&p=2
<br\>
<br\>Good luck!
<br\>
<br\>r.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I knew the tuning would be different, but I didn't realize the PAL
<br\>tuning was more than a semitone off.  It's because the PAL system clock
<br\>is different.
<br\>
<br\>In the next update I'll add the ability to set the tuning at +60, which
<br\>should fix that problem.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>mdzron wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> The only issue I experienced on my PAL C64 is the tuning appears to be
<br\>> slightly too low. I
<br\>> always have to set the tuning to -40 and play everything one semitown lower!
<br\>>
<br\>> I know two ways to get paddles on your C64:
<br\>>
<br\>> 1) Using a 470K log pot:
<br\>>
<br\>> connect the pot terminals#1 and #3 to Joy port SUB-D #7 and #8.
<br\>> Terminal#2 (the wiper)
<br\>> to SUB-D #9.
<br\>>
<br\>> -----------------------> pin #8 (GND)
<br\>> /
<br\>> \ <--------------------> pin #9 (potx)
<br\>> /
<br\>> \
<br\>> -----------------------> pin #7 (+5V)
<br\>>
<br\>> 2) Using a 100K lin pot and 4.7nF capacitor:
<br\>>
<br\>> check this schematics
<br\>> http://www.firestarter-music.de/prophetcart/pots2.jpg
<br\>> <http://www.firestarter-music.de/prophetcart/pots2.jpg>
<br\>>
<br\>> You´ll only need the pot connected to pin#5 (#9 = pot-y, not used with
<br\>> cynthcart).
<br\>> Terminal#1 and #2 are interconnected and terminal#3 goes to SUB-D #7.
<br\>> There's a
<br\>> capacitor between SUB-D #5 and #8.
<br\>>
<br\>> This solution is little more explained there:
<br\>> http://prophet64-forum.com/viewtopic.php?id=173&p=2
<br\>> <http://prophet64-forum.com/viewtopic.php?id=173&p=2>
<br\>>
<br\>> Good luck!
<br\>>
<br\>> r.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
or wait, I guess that means it needs to have the ability to go even
<br\>lower, not higher.  Anyway, I'll figure out a way to address the problem.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>mdzron wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> The only issue I experienced on my PAL C64 is the tuning appears to be
<br\>> slightly too low. I
<br\>> always have to set the tuning to -40 and play everything one semitown lower!
<br\>>
<br\>> I know two ways to get paddles on your C64:
<br\>>
<br\>> 1) Using a 470K log pot:
<br\>>
<br\>> connect the pot terminals#1 and #3 to Joy port SUB-D #7 and #8.
<br\>> Terminal#2 (the wiper)
<br\>> to SUB-D #9.
<br\>>
<br\>> -----------------------> pin #8 (GND)
<br\>> /
<br\>> \ <--------------------> pin #9 (potx)
<br\>> /
<br\>> \
<br\>> -----------------------> pin #7 (+5V)
<br\>>
<br\>> 2) Using a 100K lin pot and 4.7nF capacitor:
<br\>>
<br\>> check this schematics
<br\>> http://www.firestarter-music.de/prophetcart/pots2.jpg
<br\>> <http://www.firestarter-music.de/prophetcart/pots2.jpg>
<br\>>
<br\>> You´ll only need the pot connected to pin#5 (#9 = pot-y, not used with
<br\>> cynthcart).
<br\>> Terminal#1 and #2 are interconnected and terminal#3 goes to SUB-D #7.
<br\>> There's a
<br\>> capacitor between SUB-D #5 and #8.
<br\>>
<br\>> This solution is little more explained there:
<br\>> http://prophet64-forum.com/viewtopic.php?id=173&p=2
<br\>> <http://prophet64-forum.com/viewtopic.php?id=173&p=2>
<br\>>
<br\>> Good luck!
<br\>>
<br\>> r.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
OUT NOW! Kraftwerk 8-bit tribute on Astralwerks!

SubjectSrt:
OUT NOW! Kraftwerk 8-bit tribute on Astralwerks!

Message:
<br\>
Thanks from 8-Bit Operators....
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<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>internet driven concept starting roughly 2 years ago. It was set into
<br\>concrete motion exclusively through artistic meetings and
<br\>international relationships established via web communities and
<br\>communications though emails and sound file transfers. Indeed, the
<br\>trail of countless posts left behind by me (undoubtedly irritating to
<br\>some) may remain as a loose documentation of the project's unfolding.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>The final line up of 8-Bit Operators ultimately consists of
<br\>contacts made solely on Lo-bit-electro groups and communities such as
<br\>the Yahoo LittlesoundDj and Nanoloop groups, and the Live Journal
<br\>GameboyMusic and CircuitBending groups, Myspace and of course, the
<br\>online  Micromusic community. This truly was a grass roots global
<br\>project from the start.
<br\>
<br\>Now the concept is a reality,  TODAY,  "8-Bit Operators - An 8-
<br\>Bit Tribute to Kraftwerk"(performed on vintage video game systems)
<br\>will be available everywhere you can buy music, and it's in no small
<br\>way due to the ongoing support of online communities that spawned the
<br\>three dozen musicians and artists who contributed to the completion
<br\>of this work, a testament to the 21st century wave of chuptune/ bit-
<br\>pop/ 8-bitpop microstars!
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>college radio, arriving at #1 on the Canadian college electronic rpm
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<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>
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<br\>arrangements and beats"
<br\>
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<br\>Computer World era with faithful melodic recreations of tunes
<br\>spanning all but the earliest efforts by Herrs Hutter and Schneider"
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Check out the concept, all the CD / 12 inch tracks, plus artist
<br\>bios/links:
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://8bitops.com/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>hear more and join us at:
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://myspace.com/8bitoperators
<br\>
<br\>order the cd NOW from amazon:
<br\>(copy/paste if broken link)
<br\>
<br\>http://www.amazon.com/8-Bit-Operators-Tribute-
<br\>Kraftwerk/dp/B000MCIC74/sr=8-1/qid=1170093296/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-
<br\>9196020-6590420?ie=UTF8&s=music
<br\>
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<br\>(copy/paste if broken link)
<br\>
<br\>http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?
<br\>id=212620701&s=143441
<br\>
<br\>get the 12inch on ITUNES:
<br\>(the track names/artists are reversed at the moment,but the song data
<br\>is correct)
<br\>
<br\>http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?
<br\>playlistId=212549579&s=143441&i=212549611!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Thanks to all from the 8-Bit Operators!
<br\>
<br\>JKsine,
<br\>Dr Ops
<br\>
<br\>http://8BitOperators.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
If tuning was up to +60 us PAL user could tune Cynthcart to regular gear - but
<br\>leave no
<br\>headroom for gear above 440Hz.  Right now PAL at pitch+50 is still slightly
<br\>beyond
<br\>440Hz, that's why I need to pitch all the way down and play everything
<br\>transposed at
<br\>minus one. Makes me using a lotta black keys...
<br\>
<br\>My wish is having dedicated key maps for NTSC/PAL!
<br\>
<br\>Note frequencies from the PAL (german) manual (HI/LO byte):
<br\>C0 - 1/22 | C#0 - 1/39 | ... | C4- 17/103
<br\>
<br\>Same from NTSC (US?) manual:
<br\>C0 - 1/12 | C#0 - 1/28 | ... | C4 - 16/195
<br\>
<br\>source:
<br\>
<br\>http://c64-online.com/forum/index.php?&act=Downloads&CODE=02&id=221
<br\>
<br\>[PDF, german manual - klick on the "starte download" icon. frequency chart is on
<br\>page
<br\>#166 (which is #158 of the document pagination)
<br\>
<br\>http://project64.c64.org/hw/c64ug210.zip
<br\>
<br\>[TXT, US manual - freq chart is at "APPENDIX M"]
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Best to have Cynthcart checking the running TV standard upon initialization:
<br\>
<br\>$02A6
<br\>Flag: TV Standard: $00 = NTSC, $01 = PAL
<br\>
<br\>PEEK(678) should result in "0" on NTSC machines, "1" on PAL
<br\>
<br\>ron.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I dunno if there is any list of wishes for future Cynthcart updates?
<br\>
<br\>I'd have 4 issues:
<br\>
<br\>- a global "paddle on" switch to enable paddle filter control for all presets.
<br\>
<br\>- a fake register for the SID-HEX that controls all three voice registers #04,
<br\>#0B and #12 at
<br\>once (e.g. $1D / 60 to toggle all voices to "saw").
<br\>
<br\>- store snapshots of edit patches (SID HEX, portamento, attack/release, octave,
<br\>volume,
<br\>fifths) overwriting the preset patch. I don't mind saving to disk - One just
<br\>could edit the
<br\>patches, freeze program and then burn to EPROM...
<br\>
<br\>- 2nd pot for resonance control.
<br\>
<br\>That would be burning ;)
<br\>
<br\>ron.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Really good ideas.  I'll try to implement these and the PAL fix soon.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>mdzron wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> I dunno if there is any list of wishes for future Cynthcart updates?
<br\>>
<br\>> I'd have 4 issues:
<br\>>
<br\>> - a global "paddle on" switch to enable paddle filter control for all
<br\>> presets.
<br\>>
<br\>> - a fake register for the SID-HEX that controls all three voice
<br\>> registers #04, #0B and #12 at
<br\>> once (e.g. $1D / 60 to toggle all voices to "saw").
<br\>>
<br\>> - store snapshots of edit patches (SID HEX, portamento, attack/release,
<br\>> octave, volume,
<br\>> fifths) overwriting the preset patch. I don't mind saving to disk - One
<br\>> just could edit the
<br\>> patches, freeze program and then burn to EPROM...
<br\>>
<br\>> - 2nd pot for resonance control.
<br\>>
<br\>> That would be burning ;)
<br\>>
<br\>> ron.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks, looking forward ;)
<br\>
<br\>ron.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
There's another thing I'd like to discuss with other CC users:
<br\>
<br\>The Video Mode Toggle.
<br\>
<br\>As I'm using Cynthcart on a headless C=64 (without display) most of the time I
<br\>always switch
<br\>off the video to minimize noise artefacts. In the studio it's fine like it is
<br\>cause I always hear
<br\>(or don't) the noize. But during live situations it happened to me I accidently
<br\>hit the "J" key
<br\>and got all the noise back, with mean audio monitoring and the usual performance
<br\>chaos not
<br\>recognizing at all. So I already thought about fixing the "J" and "K" keys on my
<br\>C=64 ;)
<br\>
<br\>Maybe it's best not to change the default behaviour, but I'd appreciate an
<br\>additional video
<br\>mode toggle invoked with a modifier key - so eg: [cbm] [L] would lock the blank
<br\>screen till
<br\>you hit [cbm] [J/K] for live performance's sake...
<br\>
<br\>How do you think?
<br\>
<br\>ron.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Can anyone tell me the process for replacing the drum loop data in
<br\>synthcart with my own loop data? Paul has the source on his site.
<br\>Could i use an assembler like the one in the Atari Music Sequencer Kit
<br\>to assemble my modified code into a rom image?
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yes, you assemble it using DASM like the sequencer kit.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Can anyone tell me the process for replacing the drum loop data in
<br\>> synthcart with my own loop data? Paul has the source on his site.
<br\>> Could i use an assembler like the one in the Atari Music Sequencer Kit
<br\>> to assemble my modified code into a rom image?
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Awesome, thanks!
<br\>Now a harder question. =]
<br\>
<br\>I'll be installing the highly liquid MIDI2600 mod, and i think it
<br\>would be great if you could sequence beats that way, instead of
<br\>playing loops. So i want to replace the beat data with SINGLE HITs .
<br\>
<br\>Is there an easy way to change the code to disable the looping
<br\>function? I was looking at the source and saw the section for finding
<br\>the current beat, etc. Is there a line somewhere i can just comment
<br\>out to disable the current beat finding, so that when i press a button
<br\>on controller2, it will just play that drum data from the start?
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> yes, you assemble it using DASM like the sequencer kit.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Can anyone tell me the process for replacing the drum loop data in
<br\>> > synthcart with my own loop data? Paul has the source on his site.
<br\>> > Could i use an assembler like the one in the Atari Music Sequencer Kit
<br\>> > to assemble my modified code into a rom image?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Is there an easy way to change the code to disable the beat looping
<br\>function? I was looking at the source and saw the section for finding
<br\>the current beat, etc. Is there a line somewhere i can just comment
<br\>out to disable the "current beat find" so when you push a button on
<br\>controller2, it will just play the beat data associated with that pad
<br\>from the start?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> yes, you assemble it using DASM like the sequencer kit.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Can anyone tell me the process for replacing the drum loop data in
<br\>> > synthcart with my own loop data? Paul has the source on his site.
<br\>> > Could i use an assembler like the one in the Atari Music Sequencer Kit
<br\>> > to assemble my modified code into a rom image?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I apologize if this has been posted before but what is the easiest way
<br\>to project the video from the Synthcart?  I need to convert the RCA
<br\>out from the Atari to S-video.  Can this even be done?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
See the Synthcart FAQ "how do I get a direct audio out?"  The answer is
<br\>pretty much the same for video.
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/synth.html
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>microscope03 wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> I apologize if this has been posted before but what is the easiest way
<br\>> to project the video from the Synthcart? I need to convert the RCA
<br\>> out from the Atari to S-video. Can this even be done?
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Do you know if an RCA to S-video cable (like this
<br\>http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?
<br\>productId=2102685&cp=&sr=1&origkw=cable+rca+s-video&kw=cable+rca+s-
<br\>video&parentPage=search) would work?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> See the Synthcart FAQ "how do I get a direct audio out?"  The
<br\>answer is
<br\>> pretty much the same for video.
<br\>>
<br\>> http://qotile.net/synth.html
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> microscope03 wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I apologize if this has been posted before but what is the
<br\>easiest way
<br\>> > to project the video from the Synthcart? I need to convert the
<br\>RCA
<br\>> > out from the Atari to S-video. Can this even be done?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Thanks
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
That won't work, it "allows you to convert a standard composite video signal to
<br\>S-Video"
<br\>but the Atari out is RF, afaik. I'd say you're looking for:
<br\>
<br\>Q: How do I build a composite/audio/chroma/luma output interface for the Atari
<br\>2600Jr/
<br\>2600A?
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/2600/faq/index.html?SystemID=2600#composite
<br\>
<br\>r.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "microscope03" <microscope03@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Do you know if an RCA to S-video cable (like this
<br\>> http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?
<br\>> productId=2102685&cp=&sr=1&origkw=cable+rca+s-video&kw=cable+rca+s-
<br\>> video&parentPage=search) would work?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > See the Synthcart FAQ "how do I get a direct audio out?"  The
<br\>> answer is
<br\>> > pretty much the same for video.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > http://qotile.net/synth.html
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> > microscope03 wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I apologize if this has been posted before but what is the
<br\>> easiest way
<br\>> > > to project the video from the Synthcart? I need to convert the
<br\>> RCA
<br\>> > > out from the Atari to S-video. Can this even be done?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Thanks
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i heard that the genesis controllers work with the atari (am i right?)
<br\>
<br\>i also heard that Rapidfire/Turbo has a dope effect on the synthcart.....
<br\>
<br\>they have the 6 button controllers with turbo on em....(also the slow mo
<br\>function)
<br\>
<br\>are these the ones that work?
<br\>what other ones work?
<br\>how about those rapidfire connections that go between the controller and the
<br\>port on the
<br\>2600? (they look like a little box with a wire out of it)
<br\>
<br\>any help is appreciated....
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Genesis and Master System controllers will both work as joystick
<br\>replacements on the Atari.  I'm not sure how they work with the Synthcart.
<br\>
<br\>I think that ebay auction for the rapidfire controller w/ Synthcart was
<br\>the big Genesis joystick, but I've never tried it.
<br\>
<br\>I don't think the rapidfire connectors will do much with the Synthcart
<br\>since they only affect the joystick fire button, but not sure...
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>tmusabay wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> i heard that the genesis controllers work with the atari (am i right?)
<br\>>
<br\>> i also heard that Rapidfire/Turbo has a dope effect on the synthcart.....
<br\>>
<br\>> they have the 6 button controllers with turbo on em....(also the slow mo
<br\>> function)
<br\>>
<br\>> are these the ones that work?
<br\>> what other ones work?
<br\>> how about those rapidfire connections that go between the controller and
<br\>> the port on the
<br\>> 2600? (they look like a little box with a wire out of it)
<br\>>
<br\>> any help is appreciated....
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i was thinking that it would be awesome if there was a program for the
<br\>c-64 that could utilize this. like say if cynthcart could be controlled
<br\>using keypads and/or the midi2600 module. or i could learn how to
<br\>program something basic myself, i suppose. atari controllers are
<br\>compatible with the c-64, correct?
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Joysticks and paddle controllers are, I don't think it's possible to
<br\>read the keyboard controller on the C64 though.
<br\>
<br\>But since it is possible to send joystick signals, I could program the
<br\>Cynthcart to respond to those.  Problem is, that's only 10 notes.  I
<br\>guess that could be an octave's worth of C, G, and D scales and their
<br\>minor components.  Or it could be a little more than an octave with a
<br\>transposable note range.
<br\>
<br\>Although if you just have two-note polyphony and use binary
<br\>representation on each joystick port, you could have almost three full
<br\>octaves (32 notes).  Of course, it would be a bitch to operate unless
<br\>you have a music program that's VERY flexible, like maybe has a
<br\>programmable interface.  You could probably write a CAL program in
<br\>Cakewalk/Sonar to convert a regular set of notes to binary format.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>2wm wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> i was thinking that it would be awesome if there was a program for the
<br\>> c-64 that could utilize this. like say if cynthcart could be controlled
<br\>> using keypads and/or the midi2600 module. or i could learn how to
<br\>> program something basic myself, i suppose. atari controllers are
<br\>> compatible with the c-64, correct?
<br\>>
<br\>> --2wm
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hmm. maybe if you were able to just select 10 notes at a time it could
<br\>be useful. or possibly a program that just triggers sequences/patterns
<br\>or a drum synth. i guess that would like be prophet-64 whenever
<br\>firestARTer starts selling midi interfaces.
<br\>
<br\>i have a prophet-64 cartridge but i find the interface frustrating as
<br\>i'm not used to that style of pattern editing. i like cynthcart a lot
<br\>but it would be awesome to be able to play it with a midi keyboard as
<br\>opposed to the overlay or to be able to sequence it.
<br\>
<br\>but now that i think about it, my idea would ruin the potentiometer
<br\>usage if you were using both joystick ports.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Joysticks and paddle controllers are, I don't think it's possible to
<br\>> read the keyboard controller on the C64 though.
<br\>>
<br\>> But since it is possible to send joystick signals, I could program the
<br\>> Cynthcart to respond to those.  Problem is, that's only 10 notes.  I
<br\>> guess that could be an octave's worth of C, G, and D scales and their
<br\>> minor components.  Or it could be a little more than an octave with a
<br\>> transposable note range.
<br\>>
<br\>> Although if you just have two-note polyphony and use binary
<br\>> representation on each joystick port, you could have almost three full
<br\>> octaves (32 notes).  Of course, it would be a bitch to operate unless
<br\>> you have a music program that's VERY flexible, like maybe has a
<br\>> programmable interface.  You could probably write a CAL program in
<br\>> Cakewalk/Sonar to convert a regular set of notes to binary format.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> 2wm wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > i was thinking that it would be awesome if there was a program for the
<br\>> > c-64 that could utilize this. like say if cynthcart could be
<br\>controlled
<br\>> > using keypads and/or the midi2600 module. or i could learn how to
<br\>> > program something basic myself, i suppose. atari controllers are
<br\>> > compatible with the c-64, correct?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --2wm
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "2wm" <killradio_13@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> but now that i think about it, my idea would ruin the potentiometer
<br\>> usage if you were using both joystick ports.
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>Nope, although pots & joysticks share the same port they can  nicely coexist.
<br\>
<br\>r.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I talked to John who designed the Atari MIDI kit, and he said he could
<br\>add special support to the firmware for the C64.  So it might be
<br\>possible to do the two-voice 3 octave version but have the MIDI adapter
<br\>do the binary conversion, so it would respond to MIDI notes normally.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>2wm wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> hmm. maybe if you were able to just select 10 notes at a time it could
<br\>> be useful. or possibly a program that just triggers sequences/patterns
<br\>> or a drum synth. i guess that would like be prophet-64 whenever
<br\>> firestARTer starts selling midi interfaces.
<br\>>
<br\>> i have a prophet-64 cartridge but i find the interface frustrating as
<br\>> i'm not used to that style of pattern editing. i like cynthcart a lot
<br\>> but it would be awesome to be able to play it with a midi keyboard as
<br\>> opposed to the overlay or to be able to sequence it.
<br\>>
<br\>> but now that i think about it, my idea would ruin the potentiometer
<br\>> usage if you were using both joystick ports.
<br\>>
<br\>> --2wm
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>,
<br\>> Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > Joysticks and paddle controllers are, I don't think it's possible to
<br\>>  > read the keyboard controller on the C64 though.
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > But since it is possible to send joystick signals, I could program the
<br\>>  > Cynthcart to respond to those. Problem is, that's only 10 notes. I
<br\>>  > guess that could be an octave's worth of C, G, and D scales and their
<br\>>  > minor components. Or it could be a little more than an octave with a
<br\>>  > transposable note range.
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > Although if you just have two-note polyphony and use binary
<br\>>  > representation on each joystick port, you could have almost three full
<br\>>  > octaves (32 notes). Of course, it would be a bitch to operate unless
<br\>>  > you have a music program that's VERY flexible, like maybe has a
<br\>>  > programmable interface. You could probably write a CAL program in
<br\>>  > Cakewalk/Sonar to convert a regular set of notes to binary format.
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > -paul
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > 2wm wrote:
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > i was thinking that it would be awesome if there was a program for the
<br\>>  > > c-64 that could utilize this. like say if cynthcart could be
<br\>> controlled
<br\>>  > > using keypads and/or the midi2600 module. or i could learn how to
<br\>>  > > program something basic myself, i suppose. atari controllers are
<br\>>  > > compatible with the c-64, correct?
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > --2wm
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Paul,
<br\>
<br\>Would it be possible for you to add some sort of sensing to you program so it
<br\>could respond to the bank change command from the midi conversion kit? Then we
<br\>would need the midi conversion kit to respond to this command with a two
<br\>different designated bytes (one for up one octave and one for down one octave).
<br\>This would then give the full range, or at least what ever the sound generator
<br\>chip is capable of.
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message ----
<br\>From: Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com>
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:10:46 AM
<br\>Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: midi2600
<br\>
<br\>I talked to John who designed the Atari MIDI kit, and he said he could
<br\>add special support to the firmware for the C64. So it might be
<br\>possible to do the two-voice 3 octave version but have the MIDI adapter
<br\>do the binary conversion, so it would respond to MIDI notes normally.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>2wm wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> hmm. maybe if you were able to just select 10 notes at a time it could
<br\>> be useful. or possibly a program that just triggers sequences/patterns
<br\>> or a drum synth. i guess that would like be prophet-64 whenever
<br\>> firestARTer starts selling midi interfaces.
<br\>>
<br\>> i have a prophet-64 cartridge but i find the interface frustrating as
<br\>> i'm not used to that style of pattern editing. i like cynthcart a lot
<br\>> but it would be awesome to be able to play it with a midi keyboard as
<br\>> opposed to the overlay or to be able to sequence it.
<br\>>
<br\>> but now that i think about it, my idea would ruin the potentiometer
<br\>> usage if you were using both joystick ports.
<br\>>
<br\>> --2wm
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:synthcart% 40yahoogroups. com>,
<br\>> Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Joysticks and paddle controllers are, I don't think it's possible to
<br\>> > read the keyboard controller on the C64 though.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > But since it is possible to send joystick signals, I could program the
<br\>> > Cynthcart to respond to those. Problem is, that's only 10 notes. I
<br\>> > guess that could be an octave's worth of C, G, and D scales and their
<br\>> > minor components. Or it could be a little more than an octave with a
<br\>> > transposable note range.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Although if you just have two-note polyphony and use binary
<br\>> > representation on each joystick port, you could have almost three full
<br\>> > octaves (32 notes). Of course, it would be a bitch to operate unless
<br\>> > you have a music program that's VERY flexible, like maybe has a
<br\>> > programmable interface. You could probably write a CAL program in
<br\>> > Cakewalk/Sonar to convert a regular set of notes to binary format.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 2wm wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > i was thinking that it would be awesome if there was a program for the
<br\>> > > c-64 that could utilize this. like say if cynthcart could be
<br\>> controlled
<br\>> > > using keypads and/or the midi2600 module. or i could learn how to
<br\>> > > program something basic myself, i suppose. atari controllers are
<br\>> > > compatible with the c-64, correct?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --2wm
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
duophonic would be great. especially if you can select octaves.
<br\>it would also give you the ability to arpeggiate with cynthcart.
<br\>am i correct in assuming that the duophonic nature of it would be like
<br\>synthcart: each joystick port controls one voice? in which case you
<br\>could have double arpeggios going or other cool effects.
<br\>
<br\>but, yes, c-64 support for the midi2600 module would make cynthcart
<br\>even more versatile and wouldn't require one of those ultra-rare midi
<br\>interfaces. i don't know how much you'd have to change your program,
<br\>though.
<br\>
<br\>i'll have to download the newest version so i can try out the hex
<br\>editor, now.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>
<br\>> ----- Original Message ----
<br\>> From: Paul Slocum <paul@...>
<br\>> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:10:46 AM
<br\>> Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: midi2600
<br\>>
<br\>> I talked to John who designed the Atari MIDI kit, and he said he could
<br\>> add special support to the firmware for the C64. So it might be
<br\>> possible to do the two-voice 3 octave version but have the MIDI adapter
<br\>> do the binary conversion, so it would respond to MIDI notes normally.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> 2wm wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > hmm. maybe if you were able to just select 10 notes at a time it could
<br\>> > be useful. or possibly a program that just triggers sequences/patterns
<br\>> > or a drum synth. i guess that would like be prophet-64 whenever
<br\>> > firestARTer starts selling midi interfaces.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > i have a prophet-64 cartridge but i find the interface frustrating as
<br\>> > i'm not used to that style of pattern editing. i like cynthcart a lot
<br\>> > but it would be awesome to be able to play it with a midi keyboard as
<br\>> > opposed to the overlay or to be able to sequence it.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > but now that i think about it, my idea would ruin the potentiometer
<br\>> > usage if you were using both joystick ports.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --2wm
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:synthcart%
<br\>40yahoogroups. com>,
<br\>> > Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Joysticks and paddle controllers are, I don't think it's possible to
<br\>> > > read the keyboard controller on the C64 though.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > But since it is possible to send joystick signals, I could
<br\>program the
<br\>> > > Cynthcart to respond to those. Problem is, that's only 10 notes. I
<br\>> > > guess that could be an octave's worth of C, G, and D scales and
<br\>their
<br\>> > > minor components. Or it could be a little more than an octave with a
<br\>> > > transposable note range.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Although if you just have two-note polyphony and use binary
<br\>> > > representation on each joystick port, you could have almost
<br\>three full
<br\>> > > octaves (32 notes). Of course, it would be a bitch to operate unless
<br\>> > > you have a music program that's VERY flexible, like maybe has a
<br\>> > > programmable interface. You could probably write a CAL program in
<br\>> > > Cakewalk/Sonar to convert a regular set of notes to binary format.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -paul
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 2wm wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > i was thinking that it would be awesome if there was a program
<br\>for the
<br\>> > > > c-64 that could utilize this. like say if cynthcart could be
<br\>> > controlled
<br\>> > > > using keypads and/or the midi2600 module. or i could learn how to
<br\>> > > > program something basic myself, i suppose. atari controllers are
<br\>> > > > compatible with the c-64, correct?
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > --2wm
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Anybody else using the SID Symphony with the Cynthcart?  I've found that
<br\>the filter responds a little differently, and it completely cuts off the
<br\>sound when you turn the paddle all the way.  But the original SID still
<br\>has sound with the filter closed all the way...
<br\>
<br\>I modified my Cynthcart to add about 15 to the filter value going to the
<br\>SID Symphony from the paddle so that both SIDs sound about the same when
<br\>the filter is completely closed.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Subject:
A pong controller for armless children...

SubjectSrt:
A pong controller for armless children...

Message:
<br\>
or a Cynthcart cutoff pot built into a Wah Pedal enclosure!  You be
<br\>the judge!  Pics coming soon... - kBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Are you shure this is related to the SID Symphony cart? It could be the SIDs
<br\>used in your
<br\>system, too. I don't have the SID Symphony, but fiddling with other solutions
<br\>(like SID2SID)
<br\>it's always little troublesome to find two SIDs with similar filter response,
<br\>even among
<br\>8580s. It's also worth checking the filter capacitors, both on the C64 board and
<br\>in the SID
<br\>extension...
<br\>
<br\>r.
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Anybody else using the SID Symphony with the Cynthcart?  I've found that
<br\>> the filter responds a little differently, and it completely cuts off the
<br\>> sound when you turn the paddle all the way.  But the original SID still
<br\>> has sound with the filter closed all the way...
<br\>>
<br\>> I modified my Cynthcart to add about 15 to the filter value going to the
<br\>> SID Symphony from the paddle so that both SIDs sound about the same when
<br\>> the filter is completely closed.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey justin!
<br\>do you have any progress with trying to make synthcart play single
<br\>hits to be able to sequence them through midi2600?
<br\>I also installed this kit and was thinking of the same thing...
<br\>
<br\>let me know if you found a solution
<br\>
<br\>Pasha
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <justin@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Awesome, thanks!
<br\>> Now a harder question. =]
<br\>>
<br\>> I'll be installing the highly liquid MIDI2600 mod, and i think it
<br\>> would be great if you could sequence beats that way, instead of
<br\>> playing loops. So i want to replace the beat data with SINGLE HITs .
<br\>>
<br\>> Is there an easy way to change the code to disable the looping
<br\>> function? I was looking at the source and saw the section for finding
<br\>> the current beat, etc. Is there a line somewhere i can just comment
<br\>> out to disable the current beat finding, so that when i press a button
<br\>> on controller2, it will just play that drum data from the start?
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > yes, you assemble it using DASM like the sequencer kit.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> > kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Can anyone tell me the process for replacing the drum loop data in
<br\>> > > synthcart with my own loop data? Paul has the source on his site.
<br\>> > > Could i use an assembler like the one in the Atari Music
<br\>Sequencer Kit
<br\>> > > to assemble my modified code into a rom image?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -justin
<br\>> > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Is there an easy way to change the code to disable the beat looping
<br\>> function? I was looking at the source and saw the section for finding
<br\>> the current beat, etc. Is there a line somewhere i can just comment
<br\>> out to disable the "current beat find" so when you push a button on
<br\>> controller2, it will just play the beat data associated with that pad
<br\>> from the start?
<br\>>
<br\>> 
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > yes, you assemble it using DASM like the sequencer kit.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> > kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Can anyone tell me the process for replacing the drum loop data in
<br\>> > > synthcart with my own loop data? Paul has the source on his site.
<br\>> > > Could i use an assembler like the one in the Atari Music
<br\>Sequencer Kit
<br\>> > > to assemble my modified code into a rom image?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -justin
<br\>> > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: rewriting synthcart drum loop data?

Message:
<br\>
This version I made for an interactive installation, and it works the
<br\>way you want.  But it also has some other mods, like it starts up in
<br\>light show mode.  But I think it's pretty easy to disable the other mods.
<br\>
<br\>qotile.net/files/synthmod.zip
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>visibleman wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> hey justin!
<br\>> do you have any progress with trying to make synthcart play single
<br\>> hits to be able to sequence them through midi2600?
<br\>> I also installed this kit and was thinking of the same thing...
<br\>>
<br\>> let me know if you found a solution
<br\>>
<br\>> Pasha
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>,
<br\>> "kingconga42" <justin@...> wrote:
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > Awesome, thanks!
<br\>>  > Now a harder question. =]
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > I'll be installing the highly liquid MIDI2600 mod, and i think it
<br\>>  > would be great if you could sequence beats that way, instead of
<br\>>  > playing loops. So i want to replace the beat data with SINGLE HITs .
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > Is there an easy way to change the code to disable the looping
<br\>>  > function? I was looking at the source and saw the section for finding
<br\>>  > the current beat, etc. Is there a line somewhere i can just comment
<br\>>  > out to disable the current beat finding, so that when i press a button
<br\>>  > on controller2, it will just play that drum data from the start?
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > -justin
<br\>>  > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > yes, you assemble it using DASM like the sequencer kit.
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > -paul
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > > > Can anyone tell me the process for replacing the drum loop data in
<br\>>  > > > synthcart with my own loop data? Paul has the source on his site.
<br\>>  > > > Could i use an assembler like the one in the Atari Music
<br\>> Sequencer Kit
<br\>>  > > > to assemble my modified code into a rom image?
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > > > -justin
<br\>>  > > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > Is there an easy way to change the code to disable the beat looping
<br\>>  > function? I was looking at the source and saw the section for finding
<br\>>  > the current beat, etc. Is there a line somewhere i can just comment
<br\>>  > out to disable the "current beat find" so when you push a button on
<br\>>  > controller2, it will just play the beat data associated with that pad
<br\>>  > from the start?
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > 
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > yes, you assemble it using DASM like the sequencer kit.
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > -paul
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > > > Can anyone tell me the process for replacing the drum loop data in
<br\>>  > > > synthcart with my own loop data? Paul has the source on his site.
<br\>>  > > > Could i use an assembler like the one in the Atari Music
<br\>> Sequencer Kit
<br\>>  > > > to assemble my modified code into a rom image?
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > > > -justin
<br\>>  > > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Ah, very cool. Thanks, Paul. I will have to check that out. I think
<br\>that's the version that was at the first bentfest, no?
<br\>
<br\>I have had some progress getting individual drum hits triggered with
<br\>the midi2600. But not by re-writing the beat loop data, by changing
<br\>the instrument pairs. It seems there is a "hidden voice" in synthcart.
<br\>If you rewrite the instrument pairs so that "beatbox" is on the left
<br\>controller, it will play not as beat loops but as a synth voice. This
<br\>new voice sounds like a cross between the engine and noise voices. Low
<br\>notes make good bass hits, and high notes make good toms/congas.
<br\>Combined with the noise patch (hats and snare), you have maybe 75% of
<br\>all the drum sounds used in the beat loops. It also makes a good synth
<br\>voice.
<br\>
<br\>I'll post some samples soon....
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> This version I made for an interactive installation, and it works the
<br\>> way you want.  But it also has some other mods, like it starts up in
<br\>> light show mode.  But I think it's pretty easy to disable the other
<br\>mods.
<br\>>
<br\>> qotile.net/files/synthmod.zip
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> visibleman wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > hey justin!
<br\>> > do you have any progress with trying to make synthcart play single
<br\>> > hits to be able to sequence them through midi2600?
<br\>> > I also installed this kit and was thinking of the same thing...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > let me know if you found a solution
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Pasha
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\><mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>,
<br\>> > "kingconga42" <justin@> wrote:
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > Awesome, thanks!
<br\>> >  > Now a harder question. =]
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > I'll be installing the highly liquid MIDI2600 mod, and i think it
<br\>> >  > would be great if you could sequence beats that way, instead of
<br\>> >  > playing loops. So i want to replace the beat data with SINGLE
<br\>HITs .
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > Is there an easy way to change the code to disable the looping
<br\>> >  > function? I was looking at the source and saw the section for
<br\>finding
<br\>> >  > the current beat, etc. Is there a line somewhere i can just comment
<br\>> >  > out to disable the current beat finding, so that when i press a
<br\>button
<br\>> >  > on controller2, it will just play that drum data from the start?
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > -justin
<br\>> >  > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>> >  > >
<br\>> >  > > yes, you assemble it using DASM like the sequencer kit.
<br\>> >  > >
<br\>> >  > > -paul
<br\>> >  > >
<br\>> >  > > kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>> >  > > >
<br\>> >  > > >
<br\>> >  > > > Can anyone tell me the process for replacing the drum loop
<br\>data in
<br\>> >  > > > synthcart with my own loop data? Paul has the source on his
<br\>site.
<br\>> >  > > > Could i use an assembler like the one in the Atari Music
<br\>> > Sequencer Kit
<br\>> >  > > > to assemble my modified code into a rom image?
<br\>> >  > > >
<br\>> >  > > > -justin
<br\>> >  > > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >  > > >
<br\>> >  > > >
<br\>> >  > >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > Is there an easy way to change the code to disable the beat looping
<br\>> >  > function? I was looking at the source and saw the section for
<br\>finding
<br\>> >  > the current beat, etc. Is there a line somewhere i can just comment
<br\>> >  > out to disable the "current beat find" so when you push a button on
<br\>> >  > controller2, it will just play the beat data associated with
<br\>that pad
<br\>> >  > from the start?
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > 
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>> >  > >
<br\>> >  > > yes, you assemble it using DASM like the sequencer kit.
<br\>> >  > >
<br\>> >  > > -paul
<br\>> >  > >
<br\>> >  > > kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>> >  > > >
<br\>> >  > > >
<br\>> >  > > > Can anyone tell me the process for replacing the drum loop
<br\>data in
<br\>> >  > > > synthcart with my own loop data? Paul has the source on his
<br\>site.
<br\>> >  > > > Could i use an assembler like the one in the Atari Music
<br\>> > Sequencer Kit
<br\>> >  > > > to assemble my modified code into a rom image?
<br\>> >  > > >
<br\>> >  > > > -justin
<br\>> >  > > > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >  > > >
<br\>> >  > > >
<br\>> >  > >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
A while back (just before christmas 06) I hooked up some christmas lights to my
<br\>atari 2600
<br\>running synthcart. You can see some of the results here:
<br\>http://youtube.com/watch?
<br\>v=Medcu1r58DA
<br\>
<br\>I just remembered it then, so I thought I would post. The lights themselves are
<br\>of the type
<br\>that have a number of 'pattern programs' that you can select with a dial.
<br\>
<br\>Anyway, don't take it too seriously. Just a bit of fun.
<br\>
<br\>  - seb
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey Paul, thanks for linking us to that 'synthmod' file, I just tested
<br\>it out with my midified atari. I think it is the version we saw at
<br\>bentfest some years ago- where it was very effective, Aanyone could
<br\>walk up to it and get some cool things going.
<br\>But, It's not exacty the Atari2600 drum machine we were hoping for. We
<br\>basically wanted to be able to trigger/retrigger drum hits or the
<br\>patterns with each button press. This synthmod sort of mutes/unmutes
<br\>the beat patterns.
<br\>I did learn some intersting things though in the way you've disabled
<br\>many of the synth options, I'll have to play with that.
<br\>
<br\>Justin's hacked synthcart which places the beatbox "synth" on the left
<br\>controller is probably as close as we're gonna get to a 2600 drum
<br\>machine for now, and its actually pretty decent.
<br\>Which makes me thing we've been going about this wrong, modifying the
<br\>synth waveforms is probably a better option than the beat pattern
<br\>data, since the synth waveforms already perform the way we want the
<br\>"2600 drum machine" to (a button press triggers a note momentarily).
<br\>
<br\>Here's a sample of this new 'beatbox waveform' and then a drum pattern
<br\>  using the midi2600 to trigger the beatbox (right channel) & noise
<br\>(left) waveforms.
<br\>http://www.burnkit2600.com/thom/synthcart%20drum%20hack%20demo.mp3
<br\>
<br\>Not sure what bits of data is creating the new beatbox waveform.
<br\>But if we can figure that out, we could begin to make other new
<br\>soundfonts for the 2600 relatively easy.
<br\>
<br\>If anyone is interseted we can make the hacked synthcart program
<br\>available for others to try, if Paul don't mind that is.
<br\>
<br\>-Thom
<br\>burnkit2600.com
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> This version I made for an interactive installation, and it works the
<br\>> way you want.  But it also has some other mods, like it starts up in
<br\>> light show mode.  But I think it's pretty easy to disable the other
<br\>mods.
<br\>>
<br\>> qotile.net/files/synthmod.zip
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Subject:
Re: rewriting synthcart drum loop data? / Synthcart Midi2600 Edition

SubjectSrt:
rewriting synthcart drum loop data? / Synthcart Midi2600 Edition

Message:
<br\>
(attention! long post)
<br\>
<br\>Hi there Paul, Thom and Justin!
<br\>
<br\>I was testing Synthcart with highlyliquid's midi2600 and thinking...
<br\>...thinking and dreaming of a new custom 'Synthcart Midi2600 Edition'.
<br\>
<br\>Below I present a list of ideas for such edition.
<br\>I'm too code-ignorant to try to do this myself....
<br\>But I'd be happy to donate something in support of this project -
<br\>or, in other words, I'm ready to purchase the rom or cart with
<br\>Synthcart midi2600 edition at any reasonable price.
<br\>And I'm sure other users will find such Synthcart edition
<br\>of great use...
<br\>
<br\>I dont know if any of the ideas I suggest are impossible due to
<br\>Atari 2600 limitations - I only know that the whole application
<br\>should fit in 32K max (I've seen 32K cart PCBs on AtariAge).
<br\>
<br\>Here's the list of things I suggest to be implemented in the new
<br\>Synthcart Midi2600 edition:
<br\>
<br\>1. starts in Light Show mode (see point 5 for method to turn it off)
<br\>
<br\>2. difficulty and color/bw switches are NOT used to control Synthcart
<br\>(these can't be connected to highlyliquid's midi2600,
<br\>alternative functions are suggested below - see points 3,8,9).
<br\>
<br\>3. Options menu is triggered by single Reset click,
<br\>Advanced Options menu is triggered by double successive Reset clicks.
<br\>
<br\>4. current beat bank (bnk) is removed from or not working
<br\>in Advanced Options (different way to select bank is suggested below -
<br\>see points 8-9).
<br\>
<br\>5. Light Show mode / regular Play Mode screen is toggled
<br\>by double successive Select switch click.
<br\>
<br\>6. - MOST IMPORTANT -
<br\>Beatbox is changed to play single hits instead of sequenced beat.
<br\>Various single drum hits, beeps/bleeps and sound effect shots are
<br\>implemented and assigned to keyboard buttons instead of patterns.
<br\>When a keyboard button is pressed, the single hit plays. Once its
<br\>finished, nothing else plays, even if the button is kept pressed.
<br\>To play the same hit again, the button must be released
<br\>and pressed again.
<br\>
<br\>7. a toggle for single hit beatbox / original sequenced beatbox can
<br\>be added to Advanced Options Menu (instead of bank select).
<br\>If such toggle is implemented, 'single hit beatbox' should be
<br\>the default start up mode.
<br\>
<br\>8. instrument selection is done with
<br\>single Select click + successive keyboard press
<br\>Select + successive left keyboard key press switches Left instrument
<br\>Select + successive right keyboard key press switches Right instrument
<br\>Key/instrument map:
<br\>1 - Square
<br\>2 - Lead
<br\>3 - Noise
<br\>4 - Bass
<br\>5 - Pitfall
<br\>6 - Engine
<br\>7 - Saw
<br\>8 - Beatbox bank 1
<br\>9 - Beatbox bank 2
<br\>0 - Beatbox bank 3
<br\>* and # are not used or can be mapped to 2 new instruments
<br\>
<br\>9. alternatively, the following can be implemented
<br\>(this is better than solution suggested in point 8, but maybe impossible)
<br\>- single instrument mode for Synthcart
<br\>- only 1 instrument can be selected at any given moment,
<br\>but its notes are spread over both keyboards
<br\>- any keyboard is used to select instruments
<br\>- each selected instrument is spread accross 2 keyboards
<br\>(24 notes total instead of original 12)
<br\>- single beatbox bank with hits spread accross 2 keyboards
<br\>(24 hits total, no more bank select function)
<br\>Key/instrument map in this case will be:
<br\>1 - Square
<br\>2 - Lead
<br\>3 - Noise
<br\>4 - Bass
<br\>5 - Pitfall
<br\>6 - Engine
<br\>7 - Saw
<br\>8 - Beatbox (single bank)
<br\>9, 0, * and # are not used or can be mapped to 4 new instruments
<br\>- toggle for 1 instrument / 2 instrument modes
<br\>(described in point 9/8) can be added to Options or Advanced Options,
<br\>if such toggle is implemented, '1 instrument on both sides'
<br\>should be the default start up mode.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Please let me know what you think about this suggestion...
<br\>Maybe you have other or better ideas - please share! :)
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>hoping...
<br\>
<br\>Pasha / visibleman
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Pasha-
<br\>Interesting suggestions. If i was paul, i'd tell you to learn C and go
<br\>at it! Heh, just kidding, i'm no coder either. But now that there is a
<br\>way to control the atari with midi, i'm sure a lot of people would
<br\>enjoy a more "midi-friendly" version of synthcart.
<br\>
<br\>1,5- Personally, i don't use light show mode because i don't use a TV
<br\>with synthcart, but it is a nice option to have. And i agree that it
<br\>should be an option instead of an easter egg.
<br\>
<br\>2,3,4,8- I don't think it's necessary to have the instrument selection
<br\>controllable with midi. In fact, it's kind of fun to use the toggles
<br\>to change voices when you have a sequence running. I wouldn't want to
<br\>sacrifice the use of the toggles just because they can't be controlled
<br\>with midi. But i do like the idea of being able to change the
<br\>instruments on each controller individually, instead of being limited
<br\>to the preset pairs.
<br\>
<br\>6- yes, this is a good idea. I suggested it too.
<br\>
<br\>7- not as important. I'd rather have one version of synthcart for
<br\>preset beats, and another for midi beats. (then again, we do use TWO
<br\>ataris in my band =])
<br\>
<br\>9- Not sure about this one. I know the atari is limited to the notes
<br\>it can play. If there were 24 notes instead of 12, i doubt they would
<br\>be anything close to a chromatic scale. This wouldn't bother ME very
<br\>much, but i don't know if other people would be ok with that.
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "visibleman" <address1@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> (attention! long post)
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi there Paul, Thom and Justin!
<br\>>
<br\>> I was testing Synthcart with highlyliquid's midi2600 and thinking...
<br\>> ...thinking and dreaming of a new custom 'Synthcart Midi2600 Edition'.
<br\>>
<br\>> Below I present a list of ideas for such edition.
<br\>> I'm too code-ignorant to try to do this myself....
<br\>> But I'd be happy to donate something in support of this project -
<br\>> or, in other words, I'm ready to purchase the rom or cart with
<br\>> Synthcart midi2600 edition at any reasonable price.
<br\>> And I'm sure other users will find such Synthcart edition
<br\>> of great use...
<br\>>
<br\>> I dont know if any of the ideas I suggest are impossible due to
<br\>> Atari 2600 limitations - I only know that the whole application
<br\>> should fit in 32K max (I've seen 32K cart PCBs on AtariAge).
<br\>>
<br\>> Here's the list of things I suggest to be implemented in the new
<br\>> Synthcart Midi2600 edition:
<br\>>
<br\>> 1. starts in Light Show mode (see point 5 for method to turn it off)
<br\>>
<br\>> 2. difficulty and color/bw switches are NOT used to control Synthcart
<br\>> (these can't be connected to highlyliquid's midi2600,
<br\>> alternative functions are suggested below - see points 3,8,9).
<br\>>
<br\>> 3. Options menu is triggered by single Reset click,
<br\>> Advanced Options menu is triggered by double successive Reset clicks.
<br\>>
<br\>> 4. current beat bank (bnk) is removed from or not working
<br\>> in Advanced Options (different way to select bank is suggested below -
<br\>> see points 8-9).
<br\>>
<br\>> 5. Light Show mode / regular Play Mode screen is toggled
<br\>> by double successive Select switch click.
<br\>>
<br\>> 6. - MOST IMPORTANT -
<br\>> Beatbox is changed to play single hits instead of sequenced beat.
<br\>> Various single drum hits, beeps/bleeps and sound effect shots are
<br\>> implemented and assigned to keyboard buttons instead of patterns.
<br\>> When a keyboard button is pressed, the single hit plays. Once its
<br\>> finished, nothing else plays, even if the button is kept pressed.
<br\>> To play the same hit again, the button must be released
<br\>> and pressed again.
<br\>>
<br\>> 7. a toggle for single hit beatbox / original sequenced beatbox can
<br\>> be added to Advanced Options Menu (instead of bank select).
<br\>> If such toggle is implemented, 'single hit beatbox' should be
<br\>> the default start up mode.
<br\>>
<br\>> 8. instrument selection is done with
<br\>> single Select click + successive keyboard press
<br\>> Select + successive left keyboard key press switches Left instrument
<br\>> Select + successive right keyboard key press switches Right instrument
<br\>> Key/instrument map:
<br\>> 1 - Square
<br\>> 2 - Lead
<br\>> 3 - Noise
<br\>> 4 - Bass
<br\>> 5 - Pitfall
<br\>> 6 - Engine
<br\>> 7 - Saw
<br\>> 8 - Beatbox bank 1
<br\>> 9 - Beatbox bank 2
<br\>> 0 - Beatbox bank 3
<br\>> * and # are not used or can be mapped to 2 new instruments
<br\>>
<br\>> 9. alternatively, the following can be implemented
<br\>> (this is better than solution suggested in point 8, but maybe
<br\>impossible)
<br\>> - single instrument mode for Synthcart
<br\>> - only 1 instrument can be selected at any given moment,
<br\>> but its notes are spread over both keyboards
<br\>> - any keyboard is used to select instruments
<br\>> - each selected instrument is spread accross 2 keyboards
<br\>> (24 notes total instead of original 12)
<br\>> - single beatbox bank with hits spread accross 2 keyboards
<br\>> (24 hits total, no more bank select function)
<br\>> Key/instrument map in this case will be:
<br\>> 1 - Square
<br\>> 2 - Lead
<br\>> 3 - Noise
<br\>> 4 - Bass
<br\>> 5 - Pitfall
<br\>> 6 - Engine
<br\>> 7 - Saw
<br\>> 8 - Beatbox (single bank)
<br\>> 9, 0, * and # are not used or can be mapped to 4 new instruments
<br\>> - toggle for 1 instrument / 2 instrument modes
<br\>> (described in point 9/8) can be added to Options or Advanced Options,
<br\>> if such toggle is implemented, '1 instrument on both sides'
<br\>> should be the default start up mode.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Please let me know what you think about this suggestion...
<br\>> Maybe you have other or better ideas - please share! :)
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks,
<br\>> hoping...
<br\>>
<br\>> Pasha / visibleman
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Justin!
<br\>Thanks for your comments!
<br\>
<br\>My idea was to have all functions controllable by midi, including the
<br\>instruments switching - so that these could be sequenced too. This
<br\>also would allow for these controls to be mapped to physical midi
<br\>controllers (like playing notes on midi keyboard and changing
<br\>instruments from the midi keyboards' buttons or knob).
<br\>
<br\>Another reason for having all functions controlled by midi is that (i
<br\>forgot to mention this in my original post) I also wanted to create a
<br\>vst wrapper/interface for Synthcart - a vst plugin that represents all
<br\>functions of Synthcart and just sends out Midi to control it, so that
<br\>you can control it from computer screen or map it to midi controller -
<br\>hope you understand what I mean - Midines and Midibox Sid have these
<br\>kinds of VST things and they really make life much easier.
<br\>This way you dont have to remember which midi note controls what and
<br\>also its easy to map these to other notes/midi controllers. This is in
<br\>fact often useful and important.
<br\>
<br\>As for having more notes, I dont really know how 24 notes relates to
<br\>musical terms - I think it should be 2 octaves of chromatic scale - I
<br\>dont care for anything other than just wider note range!... if
<br\>possible :))
<br\>
<br\>I think maybe the theoretical midi edition of Synthcart could have 3
<br\>modes of operation - original / full midi like the one I suggest /
<br\>some mixed mode like the one you want.
<br\>
<br\>Another thought is that a lot of people that are starting to be
<br\>interested in lo-fi/8bit/whatever sound these days are people coming
<br\>from traditional midi sequencing way of doing things, where basically
<br\>you can map anything to anything, and not from trackers kind of
<br\>sequencing and not from that kind physical way of doing things like
<br\>the original Synthcart suggests - hope you know what I mean. So the
<br\>full midi Synthcart with VST wrapper will get more people into Atari
<br\>sound in some way I think....
<br\>In this vein, Midines is a very interesting invention, because it
<br\>basically turns a Nes into a regular midi sound module, very easy to
<br\>operate and very similar to one's other traditional synths/sound
<br\>modules. I hope we can have a similar solution for atari 2600 sound in
<br\>    the form of this kind of custom synthcart edition.
<br\>
<br\>I wonder if Paul would be interested to develop something like this,
<br\>because maybe he is the only one actually capable of doing it... :)
<br\>
<br\>Pasha
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <justin@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Pasha-
<br\>> Interesting suggestions. If i was paul, i'd tell you to learn C and go
<br\>> at it! Heh, just kidding, i'm no coder either. But now that there is a
<br\>> way to control the atari with midi, i'm sure a lot of people would
<br\>> enjoy a more "midi-friendly" version of synthcart.
<br\>>
<br\>> 1,5- Personally, i don't use light show mode because i don't use a TV
<br\>> with synthcart, but it is a nice option to have. And i agree that it
<br\>> should be an option instead of an easter egg.
<br\>>
<br\>> 2,3,4,8- I don't think it's necessary to have the instrument selection
<br\>> controllable with midi. In fact, it's kind of fun to use the toggles
<br\>> to change voices when you have a sequence running. I wouldn't want to
<br\>> sacrifice the use of the toggles just because they can't be controlled
<br\>> with midi. But i do like the idea of being able to change the
<br\>> instruments on each controller individually, instead of being limited
<br\>> to the preset pairs.
<br\>>
<br\>> 6- yes, this is a good idea. I suggested it too.
<br\>>
<br\>> 7- not as important. I'd rather have one version of synthcart for
<br\>> preset beats, and another for midi beats. (then again, we do use TWO
<br\>> ataris in my band =])
<br\>>
<br\>> 9- Not sure about this one. I know the atari is limited to the notes
<br\>> it can play. If there were 24 notes instead of 12, i doubt they would
<br\>> be anything close to a chromatic scale. This wouldn't bother ME very
<br\>> much, but i don't know if other people would be ok with that.
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "visibleman" <address1@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > (attention! long post)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hi there Paul, Thom and Justin!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I was testing Synthcart with highlyliquid's midi2600 and thinking...
<br\>> > ...thinking and dreaming of a new custom 'Synthcart Midi2600 Edition'.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Below I present a list of ideas for such edition.
<br\>> > I'm too code-ignorant to try to do this myself....
<br\>> > But I'd be happy to donate something in support of this project -
<br\>> > or, in other words, I'm ready to purchase the rom or cart with
<br\>> > Synthcart midi2600 edition at any reasonable price.
<br\>> > And I'm sure other users will find such Synthcart edition
<br\>> > of great use...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I dont know if any of the ideas I suggest are impossible due to
<br\>> > Atari 2600 limitations - I only know that the whole application
<br\>> > should fit in 32K max (I've seen 32K cart PCBs on AtariAge).
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Here's the list of things I suggest to be implemented in the new
<br\>> > Synthcart Midi2600 edition:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 1. starts in Light Show mode (see point 5 for method to turn it off)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 2. difficulty and color/bw switches are NOT used to control Synthcart
<br\>> > (these can't be connected to highlyliquid's midi2600,
<br\>> > alternative functions are suggested below - see points 3,8,9).
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 3. Options menu is triggered by single Reset click,
<br\>> > Advanced Options menu is triggered by double successive Reset clicks.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 4. current beat bank (bnk) is removed from or not working
<br\>> > in Advanced Options (different way to select bank is suggested below -
<br\>> > see points 8-9).
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 5. Light Show mode / regular Play Mode screen is toggled
<br\>> > by double successive Select switch click.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 6. - MOST IMPORTANT -
<br\>> > Beatbox is changed to play single hits instead of sequenced beat.
<br\>> > Various single drum hits, beeps/bleeps and sound effect shots are
<br\>> > implemented and assigned to keyboard buttons instead of patterns.
<br\>> > When a keyboard button is pressed, the single hit plays. Once its
<br\>> > finished, nothing else plays, even if the button is kept pressed.
<br\>> > To play the same hit again, the button must be released
<br\>> > and pressed again.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 7. a toggle for single hit beatbox / original sequenced beatbox can
<br\>> > be added to Advanced Options Menu (instead of bank select).
<br\>> > If such toggle is implemented, 'single hit beatbox' should be
<br\>> > the default start up mode.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 8. instrument selection is done with
<br\>> > single Select click + successive keyboard press
<br\>> > Select + successive left keyboard key press switches Left instrument
<br\>> > Select + successive right keyboard key press switches Right instrument
<br\>> > Key/instrument map:
<br\>> > 1 - Square
<br\>> > 2 - Lead
<br\>> > 3 - Noise
<br\>> > 4 - Bass
<br\>> > 5 - Pitfall
<br\>> > 6 - Engine
<br\>> > 7 - Saw
<br\>> > 8 - Beatbox bank 1
<br\>> > 9 - Beatbox bank 2
<br\>> > 0 - Beatbox bank 3
<br\>> > * and # are not used or can be mapped to 2 new instruments
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 9. alternatively, the following can be implemented
<br\>> > (this is better than solution suggested in point 8, but maybe
<br\>> impossible)
<br\>> > - single instrument mode for Synthcart
<br\>> > - only 1 instrument can be selected at any given moment,
<br\>> > but its notes are spread over both keyboards
<br\>> > - any keyboard is used to select instruments
<br\>> > - each selected instrument is spread accross 2 keyboards
<br\>> > (24 notes total instead of original 12)
<br\>> > - single beatbox bank with hits spread accross 2 keyboards
<br\>> > (24 hits total, no more bank select function)
<br\>> > Key/instrument map in this case will be:
<br\>> > 1 - Square
<br\>> > 2 - Lead
<br\>> > 3 - Noise
<br\>> > 4 - Bass
<br\>> > 5 - Pitfall
<br\>> > 6 - Engine
<br\>> > 7 - Saw
<br\>> > 8 - Beatbox (single bank)
<br\>> > 9, 0, * and # are not used or can be mapped to 4 new instruments
<br\>> > - toggle for 1 instrument / 2 instrument modes
<br\>> > (described in point 9/8) can be added to Options or Advanced Options,
<br\>> > if such toggle is implemented, '1 instrument on both sides'
<br\>> > should be the default start up mode.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Please let me know what you think about this suggestion...
<br\>> > Maybe you have other or better ideas - please share! :)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Thanks,
<br\>> > hoping...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Pasha / visibleman
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
damn that would be so ill if you could set the instruments to the pads
<br\>individually. thats like the only thing that really gets me as far as
<br\>the limitations go.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Pasha-
<br\>Well, i guess i can see how having all the functions controllable with
<br\>midi could be a good thing. It would make the synthcart a great
<br\>companion to midines and nanoloop. You're right  that most chiptuners
<br\>are coming from the tracker-based software sequencing platforms. I
<br\>guess i'm more from the traditional, hands-on, hardware sequencing
<br\>camp, myself. =]
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "visibleman" <address1@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Justin!
<br\>> Thanks for your comments!
<br\>>
<br\>> My idea was to have all functions controllable by midi, including the
<br\>> instruments switching - so that these could be sequenced too. This
<br\>> also would allow for these controls to be mapped to physical midi
<br\>> controllers (like playing notes on midi keyboard and changing
<br\>> instruments from the midi keyboards' buttons or knob).
<br\>>
<br\>> Another reason for having all functions controlled by midi is that (i
<br\>> forgot to mention this in my original post) I also wanted to create a
<br\>> vst wrapper/interface for Synthcart - a vst plugin that represents all
<br\>> functions of Synthcart and just sends out Midi to control it, so that
<br\>> you can control it from computer screen or map it to midi controller -
<br\>> hope you understand what I mean - Midines and Midibox Sid have these
<br\>> kinds of VST things and they really make life much easier.
<br\>> This way you dont have to remember which midi note controls what and
<br\>> also its easy to map these to other notes/midi controllers. This is in
<br\>> fact often useful and important.
<br\>>
<br\>> As for having more notes, I dont really know how 24 notes relates to
<br\>> musical terms - I think it should be 2 octaves of chromatic scale - I
<br\>> dont care for anything other than just wider note range!... if
<br\>> possible :))
<br\>>
<br\>> I think maybe the theoretical midi edition of Synthcart could have 3
<br\>> modes of operation - original / full midi like the one I suggest /
<br\>> some mixed mode like the one you want.
<br\>>
<br\>> Another thought is that a lot of people that are starting to be
<br\>> interested in lo-fi/8bit/whatever sound these days are people coming
<br\>> from traditional midi sequencing way of doing things, where basically
<br\>> you can map anything to anything, and not from trackers kind of
<br\>> sequencing and not from that kind physical way of doing things like
<br\>> the original Synthcart suggests - hope you know what I mean. So the
<br\>> full midi Synthcart with VST wrapper will get more people into Atari
<br\>> sound in some way I think....
<br\>> In this vein, Midines is a very interesting invention, because it
<br\>> basically turns a Nes into a regular midi sound module, very easy to
<br\>> operate and very similar to one's other traditional synths/sound
<br\>> modules. I hope we can have a similar solution for atari 2600 sound in
<br\>>    the form of this kind of custom synthcart edition.
<br\>>
<br\>> I wonder if Paul would be interested to develop something like this,
<br\>> because maybe he is the only one actually capable of doing it... :)
<br\>>
<br\>> Pasha
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <justin@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Pasha-
<br\>> > Interesting suggestions. If i was paul, i'd tell you to learn C and go
<br\>> > at it! Heh, just kidding, i'm no coder either. But now that there is a
<br\>> > way to control the atari with midi, i'm sure a lot of people would
<br\>> > enjoy a more "midi-friendly" version of synthcart.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 1,5- Personally, i don't use light show mode because i don't use a TV
<br\>> > with synthcart, but it is a nice option to have. And i agree that it
<br\>> > should be an option instead of an easter egg.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 2,3,4,8- I don't think it's necessary to have the instrument selection
<br\>> > controllable with midi. In fact, it's kind of fun to use the toggles
<br\>> > to change voices when you have a sequence running. I wouldn't want to
<br\>> > sacrifice the use of the toggles just because they can't be controlled
<br\>> > with midi. But i do like the idea of being able to change the
<br\>> > instruments on each controller individually, instead of being limited
<br\>> > to the preset pairs.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 6- yes, this is a good idea. I suggested it too.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 7- not as important. I'd rather have one version of synthcart for
<br\>> > preset beats, and another for midi beats. (then again, we do use TWO
<br\>> > ataris in my band =])
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 9- Not sure about this one. I know the atari is limited to the notes
<br\>> > it can play. If there were 24 notes instead of 12, i doubt they would
<br\>> > be anything close to a chromatic scale. This wouldn't bother ME very
<br\>> > much, but i don't know if other people would be ok with that.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "visibleman" <address1@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > (attention! long post)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Hi there Paul, Thom and Justin!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I was testing Synthcart with highlyliquid's midi2600 and thinking...
<br\>> > > ...thinking and dreaming of a new custom 'Synthcart Midi2600
<br\>Edition'.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Below I present a list of ideas for such edition.
<br\>> > > I'm too code-ignorant to try to do this myself....
<br\>> > > But I'd be happy to donate something in support of this project -
<br\>> > > or, in other words, I'm ready to purchase the rom or cart with
<br\>> > > Synthcart midi2600 edition at any reasonable price.
<br\>> > > And I'm sure other users will find such Synthcart edition
<br\>> > > of great use...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I dont know if any of the ideas I suggest are impossible due to
<br\>> > > Atari 2600 limitations - I only know that the whole application
<br\>> > > should fit in 32K max (I've seen 32K cart PCBs on AtariAge).
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Here's the list of things I suggest to be implemented in the new
<br\>> > > Synthcart Midi2600 edition:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 1. starts in Light Show mode (see point 5 for method to turn it off)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 2. difficulty and color/bw switches are NOT used to control
<br\>Synthcart
<br\>> > > (these can't be connected to highlyliquid's midi2600,
<br\>> > > alternative functions are suggested below - see points 3,8,9).
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 3. Options menu is triggered by single Reset click,
<br\>> > > Advanced Options menu is triggered by double successive Reset
<br\>clicks.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 4. current beat bank (bnk) is removed from or not working
<br\>> > > in Advanced Options (different way to select bank is suggested
<br\>below -
<br\>> > > see points 8-9).
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 5. Light Show mode / regular Play Mode screen is toggled
<br\>> > > by double successive Select switch click.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 6. - MOST IMPORTANT -
<br\>> > > Beatbox is changed to play single hits instead of sequenced beat.
<br\>> > > Various single drum hits, beeps/bleeps and sound effect shots are
<br\>> > > implemented and assigned to keyboard buttons instead of patterns.
<br\>> > > When a keyboard button is pressed, the single hit plays. Once its
<br\>> > > finished, nothing else plays, even if the button is kept pressed.
<br\>> > > To play the same hit again, the button must be released
<br\>> > > and pressed again.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 7. a toggle for single hit beatbox / original sequenced beatbox can
<br\>> > > be added to Advanced Options Menu (instead of bank select).
<br\>> > > If such toggle is implemented, 'single hit beatbox' should be
<br\>> > > the default start up mode.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 8. instrument selection is done with
<br\>> > > single Select click + successive keyboard press
<br\>> > > Select + successive left keyboard key press switches Left instrument
<br\>> > > Select + successive right keyboard key press switches Right
<br\>instrument
<br\>> > > Key/instrument map:
<br\>> > > 1 - Square
<br\>> > > 2 - Lead
<br\>> > > 3 - Noise
<br\>> > > 4 - Bass
<br\>> > > 5 - Pitfall
<br\>> > > 6 - Engine
<br\>> > > 7 - Saw
<br\>> > > 8 - Beatbox bank 1
<br\>> > > 9 - Beatbox bank 2
<br\>> > > 0 - Beatbox bank 3
<br\>> > > * and # are not used or can be mapped to 2 new instruments
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 9. alternatively, the following can be implemented
<br\>> > > (this is better than solution suggested in point 8, but maybe
<br\>> > impossible)
<br\>> > > - single instrument mode for Synthcart
<br\>> > > - only 1 instrument can be selected at any given moment,
<br\>> > > but its notes are spread over both keyboards
<br\>> > > - any keyboard is used to select instruments
<br\>> > > - each selected instrument is spread accross 2 keyboards
<br\>> > > (24 notes total instead of original 12)
<br\>> > > - single beatbox bank with hits spread accross 2 keyboards
<br\>> > > (24 hits total, no more bank select function)
<br\>> > > Key/instrument map in this case will be:
<br\>> > > 1 - Square
<br\>> > > 2 - Lead
<br\>> > > 3 - Noise
<br\>> > > 4 - Bass
<br\>> > > 5 - Pitfall
<br\>> > > 6 - Engine
<br\>> > > 7 - Saw
<br\>> > > 8 - Beatbox (single bank)
<br\>> > > 9, 0, * and # are not used or can be mapped to 4 new instruments
<br\>> > > - toggle for 1 instrument / 2 instrument modes
<br\>> > > (described in point 9/8) can be added to Options or Advanced
<br\>Options,
<br\>> > > if such toggle is implemented, '1 instrument on both sides'
<br\>> > > should be the default start up mode.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Please let me know what you think about this suggestion...
<br\>> > > Maybe you have other or better ideas - please share! :)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Thanks,
<br\>> > > hoping...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Pasha / visibleman
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
we played a show last night. part of it was triggering synthcart
<br\>sounds from vectrex animations (i posted about this also in may 06).
<br\>you can view a quick video (1:36) here:
<br\>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WDtztSsxkc
<br\>
<br\>this video is better than the one from last year as it shows the whole
<br\>picture more.
<br\>
<br\>- seb
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
was it the atari 2600 synthcart? or the com64?  how can you trigger sounds
<br\>from the 2600? with the midi add-on? .....oh btw i just got a friend to put
<br\>together the external highly liquid midi interface......meeting him tomarow
<br\>to test it out....hope it works!!!!
<br\>
<br\>btw that looked dope as shit.....i havent really looked into the vectrex
<br\>stuff ......is it just the images coming from there? just wondering ...a lil
<br\>confused and new......nice work thou.....
<br\>
<br\>tim
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: "sebastian_tomczak" <stomczak@e-access.com.au>
<br\>>Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>Subject: [synthcart] hidden village vid
<br\>>Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:47:37 -0000
<br\>>
<br\>>we played a show last night. part of it was triggering synthcart
<br\>>sounds from vectrex animations (i posted about this also in may 06).
<br\>>you can view a quick video (1:36) here:
<br\>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WDtztSsxkc
<br\>>
<br\>>this video is better than the one from last year as it shows the whole
<br\>>picture more.
<br\>>
<br\>>- seb
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
The sounds of the vectrex animation were coming from 2x atari 2600 running
<br\>Synthcart.
<br\>The vectrex animation was done with logo: http://vectorzoa.com/logo/logo.html
<br\>A video camera on its side was aimed at the vectrex (this is to compensate
<br\>somewhat for
<br\>the vertical format).
<br\>The output of the video camera was played on a 51cm tv. (And mirrored on the
<br\>projector).
<br\>Stuck to the tv were 24 light dependent resistors (LDRs).
<br\>Each LDR "replaced" a button on a keypad for a synthcart.
<br\>The result? When a graphic line goes past (under) where an LDR is situated, it
<br\>triggers a
<br\>note for the synthcart.
<br\>
<br\>Make sense? More info here:
<br\>http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2006/05/hidden-village-at-
<br\>tyndall-assembly.html
<br\>
<br\>- seb
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Musabay" <kotepomegatron@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> was it the atari 2600 synthcart? or the com64?  how can you trigger sounds
<br\>> from the 2600? with the midi add-on? .....oh btw i just got a friend to put
<br\>> together the external highly liquid midi interface......meeting him tomarow
<br\>> to test it out....hope it works!!!!
<br\>>
<br\>> btw that looked dope as shit.....i havent really looked into the vectrex
<br\>> stuff ......is it just the images coming from there? just wondering ...a lil
<br\>> confused and new......nice work thou.....
<br\>>
<br\>> tim
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> >From: "sebastian_tomczak" <stomczak@...>
<br\>> >Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >Subject: [synthcart] hidden village vid
<br\>> >Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:47:37 -0000
<br\>> >
<br\>> >we played a show last night. part of it was triggering synthcart
<br\>> >sounds from vectrex animations (i posted about this also in may 06).
<br\>> >you can view a quick video (1:36) here:
<br\>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WDtztSsxkc
<br\>> >
<br\>> >this video is better than the one from last year as it shows the whole
<br\>> >picture more.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >- seb
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
LOGO!
<br\>wow, i remember playing with logo when i was a kid, great to see
<br\>people still using it! and in a new way too.
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "sebastian_tomczak" <stomczak@...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> The sounds of the vectrex animation were coming from 2x atari 2600
<br\>running Synthcart.
<br\>> The vectrex animation was done with logo:
<br\>http://vectorzoa.com/logo/logo.html
<br\>> A video camera on its side was aimed at the vectrex (this is to
<br\>compensate somewhat for
<br\>> the vertical format).
<br\>> The output of the video camera was played on a 51cm tv. (And
<br\>mirrored on the projector).
<br\>> Stuck to the tv were 24 light dependent resistors (LDRs).
<br\>> Each LDR "replaced" a button on a keypad for a synthcart.
<br\>> The result? When a graphic line goes past (under) where an LDR is
<br\>situated, it triggers a
<br\>> note for the synthcart.
<br\>>
<br\>> Make sense? More info here:
<br\>http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2006/05/hidden-village-at-
<br\>> tyndall-assembly.html
<br\>>
<br\>> - seb
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Musabay" <kotepomegatron@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > was it the atari 2600 synthcart? or the com64?  how can you
<br\>trigger sounds
<br\>> > from the 2600? with the midi add-on? .....oh btw i just got a
<br\>friend to put
<br\>> > together the external highly liquid midi interface......meeting
<br\>him tomarow
<br\>> > to test it out....hope it works!!!!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > btw that looked dope as shit.....i havent really looked into the
<br\>vectrex
<br\>> > stuff ......is it just the images coming from there? just
<br\>wondering ...a lil
<br\>> > confused and new......nice work thou.....
<br\>> >
<br\>> > tim
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >From: "sebastian_tomczak" <stomczak@>
<br\>> > >Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > >To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > >Subject: [synthcart] hidden village vid
<br\>> > >Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:47:37 -0000
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >we played a show last night. part of it was triggering synthcart
<br\>> > >sounds from vectrex animations (i posted about this also in may 06).
<br\>> > >you can view a quick video (1:36) here:
<br\>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WDtztSsxkc
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >this video is better than the one from last year as it shows the
<br\>whole
<br\>> > >picture more.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >- seb
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i have an adapter that switches rca to coaxial cable but for some reason the
<br\>picture still does not appear on my television. can someone please inform me on
<br\>what to do to get my atari synthcart to display on my tv or possibly a guide to
<br\>program the synthcart (tempo, attack, resonance, etc.). Thanks in advance.
<br\>
<br\>---------------------------------
<br\>The fish are biting.
<br\>  Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
<br\>
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Subject:
RE: Re: rewriting synthcart drum loop data? / Synthcart Midi2600 Edition

Message:
<br\>
i just got the midi for the 2600 too....havent tried it out yet...damn i
<br\>thought some of the things mentioned were already possible....it would be
<br\>amazing if someone (wink...wink..paul:) could write something up....
<br\>
<br\>sometimes i wish i knew more about programming.....anyways...paul thank you
<br\>so much for what you've done already...amazing work...
<br\>
<br\>tim
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: "visibleman" <address1@galloween.net>
<br\>>Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>Subject: [synthcart] Re: rewriting synthcart drum loop data? /  Synthcart
<br\>>Midi2600 Edition
<br\>>Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:44:14 -0000
<br\>>
<br\>>Justin!
<br\>>Thanks for your comments!
<br\>>
<br\>>My idea was to have all functions controllable by midi, including the
<br\>>instruments switching - so that these could be sequenced too. This
<br\>>also would allow for these controls to be mapped to physical midi
<br\>>controllers (like playing notes on midi keyboard and changing
<br\>>instruments from the midi keyboards' buttons or knob).
<br\>>
<br\>>Another reason for having all functions controlled by midi is that (i
<br\>>forgot to mention this in my original post) I also wanted to create a
<br\>>vst wrapper/interface for Synthcart - a vst plugin that represents all
<br\>>functions of Synthcart and just sends out Midi to control it, so that
<br\>>you can control it from computer screen or map it to midi controller -
<br\>>hope you understand what I mean - Midines and Midibox Sid have these
<br\>>kinds of VST things and they really make life much easier.
<br\>>This way you dont have to remember which midi note controls what and
<br\>>also its easy to map these to other notes/midi controllers. This is in
<br\>>fact often useful and important.
<br\>>
<br\>>As for having more notes, I dont really know how 24 notes relates to
<br\>>musical terms - I think it should be 2 octaves of chromatic scale - I
<br\>>dont care for anything other than just wider note range!... if
<br\>>possible :))
<br\>>
<br\>>I think maybe the theoretical midi edition of Synthcart could have 3
<br\>>modes of operation - original / full midi like the one I suggest /
<br\>>some mixed mode like the one you want.
<br\>>
<br\>>Another thought is that a lot of people that are starting to be
<br\>>interested in lo-fi/8bit/whatever sound these days are people coming
<br\>>from traditional midi sequencing way of doing things, where basically
<br\>>you can map anything to anything, and not from trackers kind of
<br\>>sequencing and not from that kind physical way of doing things like
<br\>>the original Synthcart suggests - hope you know what I mean. So the
<br\>>full midi Synthcart with VST wrapper will get more people into Atari
<br\>>sound in some way I think....
<br\>>In this vein, Midines is a very interesting invention, because it
<br\>>basically turns a Nes into a regular midi sound module, very easy to
<br\>>operate and very similar to one's other traditional synths/sound
<br\>>modules. I hope we can have a similar solution for atari 2600 sound in
<br\>>    the form of this kind of custom synthcart edition.
<br\>>
<br\>>I wonder if Paul would be interested to develop something like this,
<br\>>because maybe he is the only one actually capable of doing it... :)
<br\>>
<br\>>Pasha
<br\>>
<br\>>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <justin@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Pasha-
<br\>> > Interesting suggestions. If i was paul, i'd tell you to learn C and go
<br\>> > at it! Heh, just kidding, i'm no coder either. But now that there is a
<br\>> > way to control the atari with midi, i'm sure a lot of people would
<br\>> > enjoy a more "midi-friendly" version of synthcart.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 1,5- Personally, i don't use light show mode because i don't use a TV
<br\>> > with synthcart, but it is a nice option to have. And i agree that it
<br\>> > should be an option instead of an easter egg.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 2,3,4,8- I don't think it's necessary to have the instrument selection
<br\>> > controllable with midi. In fact, it's kind of fun to use the toggles
<br\>> > to change voices when you have a sequence running. I wouldn't want to
<br\>> > sacrifice the use of the toggles just because they can't be controlled
<br\>> > with midi. But i do like the idea of being able to change the
<br\>> > instruments on each controller individually, instead of being limited
<br\>> > to the preset pairs.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 6- yes, this is a good idea. I suggested it too.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 7- not as important. I'd rather have one version of synthcart for
<br\>> > preset beats, and another for midi beats. (then again, we do use TWO
<br\>> > ataris in my band =])
<br\>> >
<br\>> > 9- Not sure about this one. I know the atari is limited to the notes
<br\>> > it can play. If there were 24 notes instead of 12, i doubt they would
<br\>> > be anything close to a chromatic scale. This wouldn't bother ME very
<br\>> > much, but i don't know if other people would be ok with that.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "visibleman" <address1@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > (attention! long post)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Hi there Paul, Thom and Justin!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I was testing Synthcart with highlyliquid's midi2600 and thinking...
<br\>> > > ...thinking and dreaming of a new custom 'Synthcart Midi2600 Edition'.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Below I present a list of ideas for such edition.
<br\>> > > I'm too code-ignorant to try to do this myself....
<br\>> > > But I'd be happy to donate something in support of this project -
<br\>> > > or, in other words, I'm ready to purchase the rom or cart with
<br\>> > > Synthcart midi2600 edition at any reasonable price.
<br\>> > > And I'm sure other users will find such Synthcart edition
<br\>> > > of great use...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I dont know if any of the ideas I suggest are impossible due to
<br\>> > > Atari 2600 limitations - I only know that the whole application
<br\>> > > should fit in 32K max (I've seen 32K cart PCBs on AtariAge).
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Here's the list of things I suggest to be implemented in the new
<br\>> > > Synthcart Midi2600 edition:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 1. starts in Light Show mode (see point 5 for method to turn it off)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 2. difficulty and color/bw switches are NOT used to control Synthcart
<br\>> > > (these can't be connected to highlyliquid's midi2600,
<br\>> > > alternative functions are suggested below - see points 3,8,9).
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 3. Options menu is triggered by single Reset click,
<br\>> > > Advanced Options menu is triggered by double successive Reset clicks.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 4. current beat bank (bnk) is removed from or not working
<br\>> > > in Advanced Options (different way to select bank is suggested below -
<br\>> > > see points 8-9).
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 5. Light Show mode / regular Play Mode screen is toggled
<br\>> > > by double successive Select switch click.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 6. - MOST IMPORTANT -
<br\>> > > Beatbox is changed to play single hits instead of sequenced beat.
<br\>> > > Various single drum hits, beeps/bleeps and sound effect shots are
<br\>> > > implemented and assigned to keyboard buttons instead of patterns.
<br\>> > > When a keyboard button is pressed, the single hit plays. Once its
<br\>> > > finished, nothing else plays, even if the button is kept pressed.
<br\>> > > To play the same hit again, the button must be released
<br\>> > > and pressed again.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 7. a toggle for single hit beatbox / original sequenced beatbox can
<br\>> > > be added to Advanced Options Menu (instead of bank select).
<br\>> > > If such toggle is implemented, 'single hit beatbox' should be
<br\>> > > the default start up mode.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 8. instrument selection is done with
<br\>> > > single Select click + successive keyboard press
<br\>> > > Select + successive left keyboard key press switches Left instrument
<br\>> > > Select + successive right keyboard key press switches Right instrument
<br\>> > > Key/instrument map:
<br\>> > > 1 - Square
<br\>> > > 2 - Lead
<br\>> > > 3 - Noise
<br\>> > > 4 - Bass
<br\>> > > 5 - Pitfall
<br\>> > > 6 - Engine
<br\>> > > 7 - Saw
<br\>> > > 8 - Beatbox bank 1
<br\>> > > 9 - Beatbox bank 2
<br\>> > > 0 - Beatbox bank 3
<br\>> > > * and # are not used or can be mapped to 2 new instruments
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > 9. alternatively, the following can be implemented
<br\>> > > (this is better than solution suggested in point 8, but maybe
<br\>> > impossible)
<br\>> > > - single instrument mode for Synthcart
<br\>> > > - only 1 instrument can be selected at any given moment,
<br\>> > > but its notes are spread over both keyboards
<br\>> > > - any keyboard is used to select instruments
<br\>> > > - each selected instrument is spread accross 2 keyboards
<br\>> > > (24 notes total instead of original 12)
<br\>> > > - single beatbox bank with hits spread accross 2 keyboards
<br\>> > > (24 hits total, no more bank select function)
<br\>> > > Key/instrument map in this case will be:
<br\>> > > 1 - Square
<br\>> > > 2 - Lead
<br\>> > > 3 - Noise
<br\>> > > 4 - Bass
<br\>> > > 5 - Pitfall
<br\>> > > 6 - Engine
<br\>> > > 7 - Saw
<br\>> > > 8 - Beatbox (single bank)
<br\>> > > 9, 0, * and # are not used or can be mapped to 4 new instruments
<br\>> > > - toggle for 1 instrument / 2 instrument modes
<br\>> > > (described in point 9/8) can be added to Options or Advanced Options,
<br\>> > > if such toggle is implemented, '1 instrument on both sides'
<br\>> > > should be the default start up mode.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Please let me know what you think about this suggestion...
<br\>> > > Maybe you have other or better ideas - please share! :)
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Thanks,
<br\>> > > hoping...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Pasha / visibleman
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
congratulations!
<br\>
<br\>I really like this performance :D
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
You a special adapter that you can find on clearance at radio shack
<br\>or ebay under "2600 RF.TV" adapter.. It is a ohm switch that used to
<br\>be sold with a switch in the middle of the adapter... The standard
<br\>lineout of the unit isnt standard RCA.. Commodore 64 used the same
<br\>type switch I think it's 700ohm to coax output.. A RCA/Coax plain
<br\>adapter wont work...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, brandon fitzgerald
<br\><fitzgeraldb000@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> i have an adapter that switches rca to coaxial cable but for some
<br\>reason the picture still does not appear on my television. can someone
<br\>please inform me on what to do to get my atari synthcart to display on
<br\>my tv or possibly a guide to program the synthcart (tempo, attack,
<br\>resonance, etc.). Thanks in advance.
<br\>>
<br\>> ---------------------------------
<br\>> The fish are biting.
<br\>>  Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
<br\>>
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<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
...would also be neat if continuous controller MIDI input generated a
<br\>variable paddle output! :)
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
The signal that comes out of the atari 2600 at the RCA cable is a RF signal for
<br\>channel 2 or 3 what ever is selected on the back of the atari. Meaning this
<br\>signal just needs to go directly to your TV Cable input.
<br\>
<br\>The device you are trying to use sounds like it can convert a dvd player to
<br\>coaxil input and this isnt going to work for you.
<br\>
<br\>All you need is a little connector converter that converts from RCA to coaxil.
<br\>
<br\>Heres a better explination of what Im talking about with pictures and
<br\>everything.
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/howto/connect.html
<br\>
<br\>Good Luck,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message ----
<br\>From: brandon fitzgerald <fitzgeraldb000@yahoo.com>
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Sent: Monday, April 2, 2007 7:30:09 PM
<br\>Subject: [synthcart] hooking up atari to my television
<br\>
<br\>i have an adapter that switches rca to coaxial cable but for some reason the
<br\>picture still does not appear on my television. can someone please inform me on
<br\>what to do to get my atari synthcart to display on my tv or possibly a guide to
<br\>program the synthcart (tempo, attack, resonance, etc.). Thanks in advance.
<br\>
<br\>------------ --------- --------- ---
<br\>The fish are biting.
<br\>Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
<br\>
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<br\>
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Subject:
NPR Interview with 8-BIT OPERATORS'' Jeremy Kolosine this Sunday, April 29th!

SubjectSrt:
NPR Interview with 8-BIT OPERATORS'' Jeremy Kolosine this Sunday, April 29th!

Message:
<br\>
NPR Interview with 8-BIT OPERATORS' Jeremy Kolosine this Sunday,
<br\>April 29th!
<br\>
<br\>Exciting news!
<br\>
<br\>On National Public Radio this Sunday, 29th April, check out the
<br\>interview with Jeremy Kolosine about the 8-Bit Operators Kraftwerk
<br\>Tribute release on Astralwerks, and 8-bit music! btw, LSDJ, Nanoloop,
<br\>Synthcart were mentioned as well as the Blip and Bent fests...not
<br\>sure what will make the cut yet though...
<br\>
<br\>It airs this Sunday morning on the Weekend Edition which runs from
<br\>8AM to 10AM in most places..
<br\>
<br\>Find the program broadcast time in your area:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.npr.org/templates/stations/schedule/index.php?
<br\>prgId=10&showNav=1
<br\>
<br\>related links and live stream:
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>National Public Radio's Weekend Edition Sunday:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=10
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>NPR's Ned Wharton:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7874041
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>also the cd was released in Canada this week:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.amazon.ca/8-Bit-Operators-Tribute-Th-
<br\>Kraftwerk/dp/B000MCIC74
<br\>
<br\>thanks!
<br\>
<br\>Dr Ops
<br\>
<br\>http://8BitOps.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
wow, this is brilliant.  i dunno how i missed this post.  what a
<br\>simple fix. i would be happy with this, i dont see what else you
<br\>could possibly want as far as the drum machine idea goes with the
<br\>very limited sound set available.  i was wondering, if its ok with
<br\>you guys and mr slocum could you make this rom available or, if thats
<br\>no good maybe explain how you moved the beats to the left so i could
<br\>do it myself?  if not for free than i would definently pony up some
<br\>dough to everyone involved to compensate the hours of work.  the
<br\>ideal would be if you and/or paul made a cart with this rom already
<br\>burned on it.
<br\>im trying to make my own custom rom with my own beats using paul's
<br\>atari 2600 music and sound programming guide, but ive never done any
<br\>programming/coding in my life so it will take some time.  besides,
<br\>this is much cooler.  in the end i would like to have one synthcart
<br\>with your drum machine ROM and another with my own programmed beats.
<br\>
<br\>ive been toying with a couple of non-midi triggering ideas, one
<br\>involves my dr-110 drum machine triggering the controllers and
<br\>another involves making a custom button keyboard.  the second is
<br\>obviously much easier, the keyboard conroller schematic is simple.
<br\>the first is giving my some problems, im unsure about the differences
<br\>in voltage. if/when i get finished i will share.
<br\>
<br\>matt
<br\>
<br\>www.myspace.com/kidchemical
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "djdsl_tru" <dsl_tru@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hey Paul, thanks for linking us to that 'synthmod' file, I just
<br\>tested
<br\>> it out with my midified atari. I think it is the version we saw at
<br\>> bentfest some years ago- where it was very effective, Aanyone could
<br\>> walk up to it and get some cool things going.
<br\>> But, It's not exacty the Atari2600 drum machine we were hoping for.
<br\>We
<br\>> basically wanted to be able to trigger/retrigger drum hits or the
<br\>> patterns with each button press. This synthmod sort of mutes/unmutes
<br\>> the beat patterns.
<br\>> I did learn some intersting things though in the way you've disabled
<br\>> many of the synth options, I'll have to play with that.
<br\>>
<br\>> Justin's hacked synthcart which places the beatbox "synth" on the
<br\>left
<br\>> controller is probably as close as we're gonna get to a 2600 drum
<br\>> machine for now, and its actually pretty decent.
<br\>> Which makes me thing we've been going about this wrong, modifying
<br\>the
<br\>> synth waveforms is probably a better option than the beat pattern
<br\>> data, since the synth waveforms already perform the way we want the
<br\>> "2600 drum machine" to (a button press triggers a note momentarily).
<br\>>
<br\>> Here's a sample of this new 'beatbox waveform' and then a drum
<br\>pattern
<br\>>  using the midi2600 to trigger the beatbox (right channel) & noise
<br\>> (left) waveforms.
<br\>> http://www.burnkit2600.com/thom/synthcart%20drum%20hack%20demo.mp3
<br\>>
<br\>> Not sure what bits of data is creating the new beatbox waveform.
<br\>> But if we can figure that out, we could begin to make other new
<br\>> soundfonts for the 2600 relatively easy.
<br\>>
<br\>> If anyone is interseted we can make the hacked synthcart program
<br\>> available for others to try, if Paul don't mind that is.
<br\>>
<br\>> -Thom
<br\>> burnkit2600.com
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > This version I made for an interactive installation, and it works
<br\>the
<br\>> > way you want.  But it also has some other mods, like it starts up
<br\>in
<br\>> > light show mode.  But I think it's pretty easy to disable the
<br\>other
<br\>> mods.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > qotile.net/files/synthmod.zip
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Where can I buy a cynthcart? or can the synthcart now be used for c-64
<br\>and Atari?  Thanks.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Where can I buy a cynthcart? or can the synthcart now be used for c-64
<br\>> and Atari?  Thanks.
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I would email this store:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=101
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Cynthcart only works for the Commodore 64, Synthcart only works for the
<br\>Atari 2600.  Atariage ran out of boards.  Albert has re-ordered and they
<br\>should arrive soon.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yes, to reiterate what Paul said, I should have Cynthcart boards in
<br\>about a week.  I will likely add it to the store in the next day or
<br\>two with a note of when I expect it to ship.
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On May 15, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Cynthcart only works for the Commodore 64, Synthcart only works for
<br\>> the
<br\>> Atari 2600.  Atariage ran out of boards.  Albert has re-ordered and
<br\>> they
<br\>> should arrive soon.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>____________________________________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>I'm having trouble figuring out how to add an audio out onto my atari..
<br\>I tried to follow the mods on the Atari FAQ but they are a little
<br\>incomplete and contridicting.. For the Six Switch Atari, one
<br\>instruction set says to solder onto the R208 then to ground and another
<br\>said R206...  Also I'm not quite sure where to solder the ground?  If
<br\>any on has photos of this mod and could post I would really appreciate
<br\>it!
<br\>thanks,
<br\>IAN
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
The ground can go a lot of places.  A sure thing is that all the
<br\>shielding (metal housing around various parts) will be attached to
<br\>ground.  Differences in where the instructions tell you to attach ground
<br\>aren't a problem.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>ianjameshicks wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm having trouble figuring out how to add an audio out onto my atari..
<br\>> I tried to follow the mods on the Atari FAQ but they are a little
<br\>> incomplete and contridicting.. For the Six Switch Atari, one
<br\>> instruction set says to solder onto the R208 then to ground and another
<br\>> said R206... Also I'm not quite sure where to solder the ground? If
<br\>> any on has photos of this mod and could post I would really appreciate
<br\>> it!
<br\>> thanks,
<br\>> IAN
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
thanks for the grounding tip, does anyone know the correct resistor?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> The ground can go a lot of places.  A sure thing is that all the
<br\>> shielding (metal housing around various parts) will be attached to
<br\>> ground.  Differences in where the instructions tell you to attach
<br\>ground
<br\>> aren't a problem.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> ianjameshicks wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hi,
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I'm having trouble figuring out how to add an audio out onto my
<br\>atari..
<br\>> > I tried to follow the mods on the Atari FAQ but they are a little
<br\>> > incomplete and contridicting.. For the Six Switch Atari, one
<br\>> > instruction set says to solder onto the R208 then to ground and
<br\>another
<br\>> > said R206... Also I'm not quite sure where to solder the ground?
<br\>If
<br\>> > any on has photos of this mod and could post I would really
<br\>appreciate
<br\>> > it!
<br\>> > thanks,
<br\>> > IAN
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've used Ben Heckendorn's pages for my mods:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/HowToMAIN.htm
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>ianjameshicks wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks for the grounding tip, does anyone know the correct resistor?
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>,
<br\>> Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > The ground can go a lot of places. A sure thing is that all the
<br\>>  > shielding (metal housing around various parts) will be attached to
<br\>>  > ground. Differences in where the instructions tell you to attach
<br\>> ground
<br\>>  > aren't a problem.
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > -paul
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > ianjameshicks wrote:
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > Hi,
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > I'm having trouble figuring out how to add an audio out onto my
<br\>> atari..
<br\>>  > > I tried to follow the mods on the Atari FAQ but they are a little
<br\>>  > > incomplete and contridicting.. For the Six Switch Atari, one
<br\>>  > > instruction set says to solder onto the R208 then to ground and
<br\>> another
<br\>>  > > said R206... Also I'm not quite sure where to solder the ground?
<br\>> If
<br\>>  > > any on has photos of this mod and could post I would really
<br\>> appreciate
<br\>>  > > it!
<br\>>  > > thanks,
<br\>>  > > IAN
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I agree. This would be extreamly helpful!
<br\>
<br\>==================
<br\>ianjameshicks wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm having trouble figuring out how to add an audio out onto my atari..
<br\>> I tried to follow the mods on the Atari FAQ but they are a little
<br\>> incomplete and contridicting.. For the Six Switch Atari, one
<br\>> instruction set says to solder onto the R208 then to ground and another
<br\>> said R206... Also I'm not quite sure where to solder the ground? If
<br\>> any on has photos of this mod and could post I would really appreciate
<br\>> it!
<br\>> thanks,
<br\>> IAN
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Please let me know when the Cynthcart will be available so I can
<br\>complete purchase. Also, do you have quantity pricing on the Synthcart
<br\>and Cynthcart?  Thanks.
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Yes, to reiterate what Paul said, I should have Cynthcart boards in
<br\>> about a week.  I will likely add it to the store in the next day or
<br\>> two with a note of when I expect it to ship.
<br\>>
<br\>>   ..Al
<br\>>
<br\>> On May 15, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > Cynthcart only works for the Commodore 64, Synthcart only works for
<br\>> > the
<br\>> > Atari 2600.  Atariage ran out of boards.  Albert has re-ordered and
<br\>> > they
<br\>> > should arrive soon.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> ____________________________________________
<br\>> Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>> Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Greetings,
<br\>
<br\>I have added the Cynthcart back to the AtariAge Store.  I will be
<br\>able to ship them at the latest by June 1st, and hopefully sometime
<br\>next week:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/store/index.php?
<br\>main_page=product_info&products_id=322
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On May 18, 2007, at 1:32 PM, fun.email wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Please let me know when the Cynthcart will be available so I can
<br\>> complete purchase. Also, do you have quantity pricing on the Synthcart
<br\>> and Cynthcart?  Thanks.
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@...> wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Yes, to reiterate what Paul said, I should have Cynthcart boards in
<br\>>> about a week.  I will likely add it to the store in the next day or
<br\>>> two with a note of when I expect it to ship.
<br\>>>
<br\>>>   ..Al
<br\>>>
<br\>>> On May 15, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>>> Cynthcart only works for the Commodore 64, Synthcart only works for
<br\>>>> the
<br\>>>> Atari 2600.  Atariage ran out of boards.  Albert has re-ordered and
<br\>>>> they
<br\>>>> should arrive soon.
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> -paul
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>> ____________________________________________
<br\>>> Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>>> Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>____________________________________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I have a PAL C64 and like a lot of other people on the message board
<br\>I've had problems with Cynthcart being flat even with tuning set at
<br\>+50 cents. Can anyone help me out in finding an NTSC C64? E-mail me if
<br\>you can.
<br\>
<br\>Phil
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
______________________________
<br\>
<br\>You can hear my new song 'Famous'
<br\>@ http://www.myspace.com/firebrandboy
<br\>______________________________
<br\>
<br\>Instrumentation
<br\>
<br\>Game Boy, NES, C64, Guitar, Vocal, Piano
<br\>Glockenspiel, Beard, Hands, Vocoder.
<br\>
<br\>______________________________
<br\>
<br\>Notes
<br\>
<br\>Wait until the last section - its a little epic.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> I have a PAL C64 and like a lot of other people on the message board
<br\>> I've had problems with Cynthcart being flat even with tuning set at
<br\>> +50 cents.
<br\>
<br\>Try tuning all the way down instead (-50 or whatever it is) and play everything
<br\>transposed
<br\>one key higher. Kinda weird resulting in lots of black keys but at least the
<br\>tune is much
<br\>better then.
<br\>
<br\>> Can anyone help me out in finding an NTSC C64?
<br\>
<br\>I thought about just swapping the VIC to NTSC and cut the PAL/NTSC wire on the
<br\>motherboard... Paul, are you willing to trade a NTSC-VIC in a PAL version (for
<br\>testing your SW
<br\>for PAL) ?
<br\>
<br\>;)
<br\>
<br\>r.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Nice... like it.  I really love the "glitch" sound that you can get
<br\>with old-skool, low end oscillators and/or samples.  [I never tire of
<br\>the "Ghettochip Malfunction" remix of Beck's "Hell Yes"]  Haven't
<br\>done it in my own music yet, but this really sells me on getting
<br\>SynthCart and modding (one of my many) Ataris with MIDI2600 midi
<br\>interface.
<br\>
<br\>I am currently in the process of installing a PAiA Theremax
<br\>theremin/MIDI controller into a 6-switch Atari case I gutted, so it
<br\>would be sweet to get a 2nd Atari up there and get a "dueling Ataris"
<br\>enemble going -- I could feed the SynthCart through a floor MIDI-
<br\>pedal board (floor keyboard) for bassline/beats, then do melody
<br\>through the Theremax. This is pretty damn tantalizing...
<br\>
<br\>great work on the music, bud.  Keep it up.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "thefirebrandboy"
<br\><thefirebrandboy@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> ______________________________
<br\>>
<br\>> You can hear my new song 'Famous'
<br\>> @ http://www.myspace.com/firebrandboy
<br\>> ______________________________
<br\>>
<br\>> Instrumentation
<br\>>
<br\>> Game Boy, NES, C64, Guitar, Vocal, Piano
<br\>> Glockenspiel, Beard, Hands, Vocoder.
<br\>>
<br\>> ______________________________
<br\>>
<br\>> Notes
<br\>>
<br\>> Wait until the last section - its a little epic.
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Although it's a little more expensive, I'm just going to save myself
<br\>the headache and I've ordered the A/V mod board from 8BitDomain:
<br\>http://www.8bitdomain.com/about2600_4.php?
<br\>PHPSESSID=994f70f9fdf1b3980ebb062d2c6b52fe
<br\>
<br\>Requires some hole-drilling to mount composite, s-video, and stereo
<br\>jacks, but other than that looks pretty simple... plug in IC/circuit
<br\>board, no soldering, etc.  About $45 for it.
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Spencer Thayer <Spencer@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I agree. This would be extreamly helpful!
<br\>>
<br\>> ==================
<br\>> ianjameshicks wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hi,
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I'm having trouble figuring out how to add an audio out onto my
<br\>atari..
<br\>> > I tried to follow the mods on the Atari FAQ but they are a little
<br\>> > incomplete and contridicting.. For the Six Switch Atari, one
<br\>> > instruction set says to solder onto the R208 then to ground and
<br\>another
<br\>> > said R206... Also I'm not quite sure where to solder the ground?
<br\>If
<br\>> > any on has photos of this mod and could post I would really
<br\>appreciate
<br\>> > it!
<br\>> > thanks,
<br\>> > IAN
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
How long after placing order do you ship, and which ship. method used?
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Greetings,
<br\>>
<br\>> I have added the Cynthcart back to the AtariAge Store.  I will be
<br\>> able to ship them at the latest by June 1st, and hopefully sometime
<br\>> next week:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/store/index.php?
<br\>> main_page=product_info&products_id=322
<br\>>
<br\>>   ..Al
<br\>>
<br\>> On May 18, 2007, at 1:32 PM, fun.email wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > Please let me know when the Cynthcart will be available so I can
<br\>> > complete purchase. Also, do you have quantity pricing on the Synthcart
<br\>> > and Cynthcart?  Thanks.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@> wrote:
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> Yes, to reiterate what Paul said, I should have Cynthcart boards in
<br\>> >> about a week.  I will likely add it to the store in the next day or
<br\>> >> two with a note of when I expect it to ship.
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>   ..Al
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> On May 15, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>> Cynthcart only works for the Commodore 64, Synthcart only works for
<br\>> >>> the
<br\>> >>> Atari 2600.  Atariage ran out of boards.  Albert has re-ordered and
<br\>> >>> they
<br\>> >>> should arrive soon.
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>> -paul
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> ____________________________________________
<br\>> >> Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>> >> Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> ____________________________________________
<br\>> Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>> Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>How do you save anything done on the Synth & Cynth cart's? Will the
<br\>Vectrex Save Key work with the Synthcart?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Usually within 48 hours or so, but that can be affected by other
<br\>things going on.  For instance, in the past month I've attended two
<br\>classic gaming events (CCAG in Cleveland and the Midwest Gaming
<br\>Classic near Milwaukee) and that slowed everything down a bit.
<br\>Orders within the US are shipped via USPS with Delivery
<br\>Confirmation.  Outside the US orders are shipped with First Class
<br\>International.
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On Jun 6, 2007, at 12:39 PM, fun.email wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> How long after placing order do you ship, and which ship. method used?
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@...> wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Greetings,
<br\>>>
<br\>>> I have added the Cynthcart back to the AtariAge Store.  I will be
<br\>>> able to ship them at the latest by June 1st, and hopefully sometime
<br\>>> next week:
<br\>>>
<br\>>> http://www.atariage.com/store/index.php?
<br\>>> main_page=product_info&products_id=322
<br\>>>
<br\>>>   ..Al
<br\>>>
<br\>>> On May 18, 2007, at 1:32 PM, fun.email wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>>> Please let me know when the Cynthcart will be available so I can
<br\>>>> complete purchase. Also, do you have quantity pricing on the
<br\>>>> Synthcart
<br\>>>> and Cynthcart?  Thanks.
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@> wrote:
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> Yes, to reiterate what Paul said, I should have Cynthcart boards in
<br\>>>>> about a week.  I will likely add it to the store in the next day or
<br\>>>>> two with a note of when I expect it to ship.
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>   ..Al
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> On May 15, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>> Cynthcart only works for the Commodore 64, Synthcart only works
<br\>>>>>> for
<br\>>>>>> the
<br\>>>>>> Atari 2600.  Atariage ran out of boards.  Albert has re-ordered
<br\>>>>>> and
<br\>>>>>> they
<br\>>>>>> should arrive soon.
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>> -paul
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> ____________________________________________
<br\>>>>> Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>>>>> Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>> ____________________________________________
<br\>>> Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>>> Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>____________________________________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
do you have any AtariVox?
<br\>
<br\>Albert Yarusso <albert@atariage.com> wrote:                                 
<br\>Usually within 48 hours or so, but that can be affected by other
<br\>  things going on.  For instance, in the past month I've attended two
<br\>  classic gaming events (CCAG in Cleveland and the Midwest Gaming
<br\>  Classic near Milwaukee) and that slowed everything down a bit.
<br\>  Orders within the US are shipped via USPS with Delivery
<br\>  Confirmation.  Outside the US orders are shipped with First Class
<br\>  International.
<br\>
<br\>  ..Al
<br\>
<br\>  On Jun 6, 2007, at 12:39 PM, fun.email wrote:
<br\>
<br\>  > How long after placing order do you ship, and which ship. method used?
<br\>  >
<br\>  > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@...> wrote:
<br\>  >>
<br\>  >> Greetings,
<br\>  >>
<br\>  >> I have added the Cynthcart back to the AtariAge Store.  I will be
<br\>  >> able to ship them at the latest by June 1st, and hopefully sometime
<br\>  >> next week:
<br\>  >>
<br\>  >> http://www.atariage.com/store/index.php?
<br\>  >> main_page=product_info&products_id=322
<br\>  >>
<br\>  >>   ..Al
<br\>  >>
<br\>  >> On May 18, 2007, at 1:32 PM, fun.email wrote:
<br\>  >>
<br\>  >>> Please let me know when the Cynthcart will be available so I can
<br\>  >>> complete purchase. Also, do you have quantity pricing on the
<br\>  >>> Synthcart
<br\>  >>> and Cynthcart?  Thanks.
<br\>  >>>
<br\>  >>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@> wrote:
<br\>  >>>>
<br\>  >>>> Yes, to reiterate what Paul said, I should have Cynthcart boards in
<br\>  >>>> about a week.  I will likely add it to the store in the next day or
<br\>  >>>> two with a note of when I expect it to ship.
<br\>  >>>>
<br\>  >>>>   ..Al
<br\>  >>>>
<br\>  >>>> On May 15, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>  >>>>
<br\>  >>>>> Cynthcart only works for the Commodore 64, Synthcart only works
<br\>  >>>>> for
<br\>  >>>>> the
<br\>  >>>>> Atari 2600.  Atariage ran out of boards.  Albert has re-ordered
<br\>  >>>>> and
<br\>  >>>>> they
<br\>  >>>>> should arrive soon.
<br\>  >>>>>
<br\>  >>>>> -paul
<br\>  >>>>>
<br\>  >>>>>
<br\>  >>>>>
<br\>  >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>  >>>>>
<br\>  >>>>>
<br\>  >>>>>
<br\>  >>>>
<br\>  >>>> ____________________________________________
<br\>  >>>> Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>  >>>> Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>  >>>>
<br\>  >>>
<br\>  >>>
<br\>  >>>
<br\>  >>>
<br\>  >>>
<br\>  >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>  >>>
<br\>  >>>
<br\>  >>>
<br\>  >>
<br\>  >> ____________________________________________
<br\>  >> Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>  >> Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>  >>
<br\>  >
<br\>  >
<br\>  >
<br\>  >
<br\>  >
<br\>  > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>  >
<br\>  >
<br\>  >
<br\>
<br\>  ____________________________________________
<br\>  Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>  Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>lay it on us.
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Message:
<br\>
Neither supports saving.  Most of the settings are very simple and easy
<br\>to reproduce.  The Loopcart will support saving.  I might add disk
<br\>support to the Cynthcart at some point.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>fun.email wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>>
<br\>> How do you save anything done on the Synth & Cynth cart's? Will the
<br\>> Vectrex Save Key work with the Synthcart?
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi, I'm new to the cynthcart and would appreciate some advice with a
<br\>few questions I have.  I consider myself more musical than technical
<br\>so i warn in advance that some of these question may have obvious
<br\>answers!
<br\>
<br\>1) When editing a patch using the hex editor, is there a set order
<br\>to which addresses have to have their corresponding values entered?
<br\>
<br\>e.g
<br\>
<br\>For configuring channel 1, do I first have to assign the desired
<br\>waveform followed by pulse width (if required) then gate on/off then
<br\>the ADSR values, or can the values be entered at will?
<br\>
<br\>2) I get distortion when filter sweeping a chord with the paddle,
<br\>could this be a power supply issue or a problem with the filter
<br\>capacitor?
<br\>
<br\>I realise that these questions may be a bit vague, and I would
<br\>appreciate it if they cannot be answered, could someone point me in
<br\>the right direction in getting some documentation to help me.
<br\>
<br\>Thank you,
<br\>
<br\>Adam.
<br\>
<br\>P.S. i use version 1.1 which I load from tape.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> 1) When editing a patch using the hex editor, is there a set order
<br\>> to which addresses have to have their corresponding values entered?
<br\>
<br\>The registers can be edited individually but all the shared parameter registers,
<br\>like
<br\>attack/decay, sustain/release, res/filt, mode/vol or the control bit
<br\>(noise/pulse/saw/tri/test/ring/sync/gate) have to be entered in a chunk, of
<br\>course.
<br\>
<br\>If you're having troubles to calculater the HEX values for the shared registers
<br\>look out for
<br\>a "programmer's calculator". I'm on MacOS X and found the built in calculator to
<br\>do this
<br\>job very well; you can switch the bits via mouse click and it displays the
<br\>corresponding
<br\>HEX value...
<br\>
<br\>> 2) I get distortion when filter sweeping a chord with the paddle,
<br\>> could this be a power supply issue or a problem with the filter
<br\>> capacitor?
<br\>
<br\>I guess you got a 6581? To my experience Cynthcart on  the 6581 suffers a lot
<br\>more from
<br\>distorted filter sweeps than the 8580 (although I like the dirty sound;)).
<br\>Distortion can be
<br\>minimized when running at lower DCA sustain levels, though (the :;= volume keys
<br\>help
<br\>little too).
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Just saw this:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=96356&st=400
<br\>
<br\>Loopcart will save through a controller port using the vectrex memory
<br\>right? If so, Im going have to get one.
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Neither supports saving.  Most of the settings are very simple and easy
<br\>> to reproduce.  The Loopcart will support saving.  I might add disk
<br\>> support to the Cynthcart at some point.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> fun.email wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hi,
<br\>> >
<br\>> > How do you save anything done on the Synth & Cynth cart's? Will the
<br\>> > Vectrex Save Key work with the Synthcart?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Thanks
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
He said not yet... but does Loopcart work with Synthcart?
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Just saw this:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=96356&st=400
<br\>>
<br\>> Loopcart will save through a controller port using the vectrex memory
<br\>> right? If so, Im going have to get one.
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Neither supports saving.  Most of the settings are very simple and
<br\>easy
<br\>> > to reproduce.  The Loopcart will support saving.  I might add disk
<br\>> > support to the Cynthcart at some point.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> > fun.email wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Hi,
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > How do you save anything done on the Synth & Cynth cart's? Will the
<br\>> > > Vectrex Save Key work with the Synthcart?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Thanks
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> He said not yet... but does Loopcart work with Synthcart?
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>There are different projects.
<br\>
<br\>Synthcart: Drum machine type workstation, a one-bit groovebox
<br\>
<br\>Loopcart: Seqeuencer tracker type thing that generates code you can
<br\>put in your atari 2600 games using the sequencer kit.
<br\>
<br\>I have the vextrex memory stick from two years ago, so would
<br\>defiantely but one of atari clones to run it if I could save songs.
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So a pc with emulator is needed to run Loopcart?  Then were does the
<br\>Atari fit in?  I wish there were a flow chart on this stuff...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > He said not yet... but does Loopcart work with Synthcart?
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> There are different projects.
<br\>>
<br\>> Synthcart: Drum machine type workstation, a one-bit groovebox
<br\>>
<br\>> Loopcart: Seqeuencer tracker type thing that generates code you can
<br\>> put in your atari 2600 games using the sequencer kit.
<br\>>
<br\>> I have the vextrex memory stick from two years ago, so would
<br\>> defiantely but one of atari clones to run it if I could save songs.
<br\>>
<br\>> peter
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Loopcart is designed to be run on hardware, but doesnt support saving
<br\>so it would probably be better to run it on an emulator for the time
<br\>being. Paul has said in the past he plans to release a version that
<br\>supports saving via the vextrex cart, so it would work on real hardware.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>It will have a mode or the ability to copy the sequence data and enter
<br\>it into code that be incroporated into your atari game code if so
<br\>desired. try out the demo its pretty far along I think.
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> So a pc with emulator is needed to run Loopcart?  Then were does the
<br\>> Atari fit in?  I wish there were a flow chart on this stuff...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > He said not yet... but does Loopcart work with Synthcart?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > There are different projects.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Synthcart: Drum machine type workstation, a one-bit groovebox
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Loopcart: Seqeuencer tracker type thing that generates code you can
<br\>> > put in your atari 2600 games using the sequencer kit.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I have the vextrex memory stick from two years ago, so would
<br\>> > defiantely but one of atari clones to run it if I could save songs.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > peter
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
You could also burn your own eprom for running it on an Atari. But the cart will
<br\>only be one for one song (Im thinking about installing a 2600 into my car just
<br\>to play my loopcarts, hehe...j/k)
<br\>
<br\>-Jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message ----
<br\>From: PeLeSwi <kradlabs@yahoo.com>
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:07:28 PM
<br\>Subject: [synthcart] Re: Saving Carts
<br\>
<br\>Loopcart is designed to be run on hardware, but doesnt support saving
<br\>so it would probably be better to run it on an emulator for the time
<br\>being. Paul has said in the past he plans to release a version that
<br\>supports saving via the vextrex cart, so it would work on real hardware.
<br\>
<br\>It will have a mode or the ability to copy the sequence data and enter
<br\>it into code that be incroporated into your atari game code if so
<br\>desired. try out the demo its pretty far along I think.
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@. ..> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> So a pc with emulator is needed to run Loopcart? Then were does the
<br\>> Atari fit in? I wish there were a flow chart on this stuff...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > He said not yet... but does Loopcart work with Synthcart?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > There are different projects.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Synthcart: Drum machine type workstation, a one-bit groovebox
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Loopcart: Seqeuencer tracker type thing that generates code you can
<br\>> > put in your atari 2600 games using the sequencer kit.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I have the vextrex memory stick from two years ago, so would
<br\>> > defiantely but one of atari clones to run it if I could save songs.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > peter
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
How can this be done, and where do I get the empty carts?
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> You could also burn your own eprom for running it on an Atari. But
<br\>the cart will only be one for one song (Im thinking about installing a
<br\>2600 into my car just to play my loopcarts, hehe...j/k)
<br\>>
<br\>> -Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> ----- Original Message ----
<br\>> From: PeLeSwi <kradlabs@...>
<br\>> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:07:28 PM
<br\>> Subject: [synthcart] Re: Saving Carts
<br\>>
<br\>> Loopcart is designed to be run on hardware, but doesnt support saving
<br\>> so it would probably be better to run it on an emulator for the time
<br\>> being. Paul has said in the past he plans to release a version that
<br\>> supports saving via the vextrex cart, so it would work on real hardware.
<br\>>
<br\>> It will have a mode or the ability to copy the sequence data and enter
<br\>> it into code that be incroporated into your atari game code if so
<br\>> desired. try out the demo its pretty far along I think.
<br\>>
<br\>> peter
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@ ..> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > So a pc with emulator is needed to run Loopcart? Then were does the
<br\>> > Atari fit in? I wish there were a flow chart on this stuff...
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@> wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > He said not yet... but does Loopcart work with Synthcart?
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > There are different projects.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Synthcart: Drum machine type workstation, a one-bit groovebox
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Loopcart: Seqeuencer tracker type thing that generates code you can
<br\>> > > put in your atari 2600 games using the sequencer kit.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I have the vextrex memory stick from two years ago, so would
<br\>> > > defiantely but one of atari clones to run it if I could save songs.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > peter
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
You can use an EPROM instead of the origional ROM and you can program them with
<br\>an EPROM Programmer. You can buy the blank boards from AtariAge or you can make
<br\>you own.
<br\>
<br\>Do a Google search for DIY Atari 2600 Cart for more info. I have a little info
<br\>put together on my site http://www.stormscorner.com/ewb/?cat=24 please look
<br\>around ask me more specific there and please look at the other places on the net
<br\>for info on the above search I listed.
<br\>
<br\>-Jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message ----
<br\>From: fun.email <cpals2002@yahoo.com>
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 8:24:37 AM
<br\>Subject: [synthcart] Re: Saving Carts
<br\>
<br\>How can this be done, and where do I get the empty carts?
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@... > wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> You could also burn your own eprom for running it on an Atari. But
<br\>the cart will only be one for one song (Im thinking about installing a
<br\>2600 into my car just to play my loopcarts, hehe...j/k)
<br\>>
<br\>> -Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> ----- Original Message ----
<br\>> From: PeLeSwi <kradlabs@.. .>
<br\>> To: synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com
<br\>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:07:28 PM
<br\>> Subject: [synthcart] Re: Saving Carts
<br\>>
<br\>> Loopcart is designed to be run on hardware, but doesnt support saving
<br\>> so it would probably be better to run it on an emulator for the time
<br\>> being. Paul has said in the past he plans to release a version that
<br\>> supports saving via the vextrex cart, so it would work on real hardware.
<br\>>
<br\>> It will have a mode or the ability to copy the sequence data and enter
<br\>> it into code that be incroporated into your atari game code if so
<br\>> desired. try out the demo its pretty far along I think.
<br\>>
<br\>> peter
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@ ..> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > So a pc with emulator is needed to run Loopcart? Then were does the
<br\>> > Atari fit in? I wish there were a flow chart on this stuff...
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogrou ps.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@> wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > He said not yet... but does Loopcart work with Synthcart?
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > There are different projects.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Synthcart: Drum machine type workstation, a one-bit groovebox
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Loopcart: Seqeuencer tracker type thing that generates code you can
<br\>> > > put in your atari 2600 games using the sequencer kit.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I have the vextrex memory stick from two years ago, so would
<br\>> > > defiantely but one of atari clones to run it if I could save songs.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > peter
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks for the info, Jesse. This is great stuff.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> You can use an EPROM instead of the origional ROM and you can program them
<br\>with an
<br\>EPROM Programmer. You can buy the blank boards from AtariAge or you can make you
<br\>own.
<br\>>
<br\>> Do a Google search for DIY Atari 2600 Cart for more info. I have a little info
<br\>put together
<br\>on my site http://www.stormscorner.com/ewb/?cat=24 please look around ask me
<br\>more
<br\>specific there and please look at the other places on the net for info on the
<br\>above search I
<br\>listed.
<br\>>
<br\>> -Jesse
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yes, what he said.
<br\>
<br\>The latest version of the Loopcart is capable of displaying the hex data
<br\>of the current patterns, and I do use it to create sequencer kit
<br\>patterns.  I'm not sure if that version is posted on my page though.
<br\>
<br\>I've been extremely busy so it's slow going, but I have been working on
<br\>it when I have free time.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>PeLeSwi wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Loopcart is designed to be run on hardware, but doesnt support saving
<br\>> so it would probably be better to run it on an emulator for the time
<br\>> being. Paul has said in the past he plans to release a version that
<br\>> supports saving via the vextrex cart, so it would work on real hardware.
<br\>>
<br\>> It will have a mode or the ability to copy the sequence data and enter
<br\>> it into code that be incroporated into your atari game code if so
<br\>> desired. try out the demo its pretty far along I think.
<br\>>
<br\>> peter
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>,
<br\>> "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > So a pc with emulator is needed to run Loopcart? Then were does the
<br\>>  > Atari fit in? I wish there were a flow chart on this stuff...
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@> wrote:
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, "fun.email" <cpals2002@> wrote:
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > > > He said not yet... but does Loopcart work with Synthcart?
<br\>>  > > >
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > There are different projects.
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > Synthcart: Drum machine type workstation, a one-bit groovebox
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > Loopcart: Seqeuencer tracker type thing that generates code you can
<br\>>  > > put in your atari 2600 games using the sequencer kit.
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > I have the vextrex memory stick from two years ago, so would
<br\>>  > > defiantely but one of atari clones to run it if I could save songs.
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  > > peter
<br\>>  > >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Could you post a WIP beta maybe?
<br\>
<br\>Busy understood!
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Yes, what he said.
<br\>>
<br\>> The latest version of the Loopcart is capable of displaying the hex
<br\>data
<br\>> of the current patterns, and I do use it to create sequencer kit
<br\>> patterns.  I'm not sure if that version is posted on my page though.
<br\>>
<br\>> I've been extremely busy so it's slow going, but I have been working on
<br\>> it when I have free time.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Does anyone know of an easy way to generate beat data for Synthcart?
<br\>
<br\>I found this message on atariage from 2004:
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=50744
<br\>
<br\>It's from one of the moderators here.
<br\>
<br\>Apparently, someone named Len Charest took Paul's  "beat box
<br\>programming kit" and made a cool little web-based app for it.
<br\>It used to be here:
<br\>http://cogent.net/lencharest/atari2600/synthcart/
<br\>There's an archive of it on archive.org, but some of the graphics and
<br\>javascript is missing.
<br\>
<br\>Has anyone been successful in tracking Len down?
<br\>Or has anyone thought of making an app themselves?
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>


Subject:
Fully using Synthcart WITH Highlyliquid Midikit and WITHOUT a TV ?

SubjectSrt:
Fully using Synthcart WITH Highlyliquid Midikit and WITHOUT a TV ?

Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>I would like to have tips to learn to control all (or nearly all)
<br\>features of the synthcart without a TV (as I do not own one !) through
<br\>midi. Can anybody help me? Thanks!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Been awaiting the arrival of this very elusive cartridge. Just came
<br\>today.  Modded the Atari for audio out, and been playing with it a
<br\>little bit.  It acts kind of screwy when you only have 1 video touch
<br\>pad.  Luckily I got more on the way.
<br\>
<br\>Trying to learn some of the stuff on it.  Kinda extreme, but hopfully
<br\>I will master it.
<br\>
<br\>-Andy
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi there,
<br\>       I've been loving my synthcart and am going to get another 2600
<br\>specifically for live use so that the one that I added midi to doesn't
<br\>get banged around so much.  I love the look of the Telegame models,
<br\>does anyone know about tapping the audio out on those models?  Are the
<br\>circuits the same as the regular Atari models? Thanks in advance.
<br\>
<br\>Chadwick W.D
<br\>(((6)))
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yeah, they're the same.  I think they were made in the same factory,
<br\>just have a different case.
<br\>
<br\>I use a Telegames heavy sixer for all my live shows.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>chadwick_wd wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi there,
<br\>> I've been loving my synthcart and am going to get another 2600
<br\>> specifically for live use so that the one that I added midi to doesn't
<br\>> get banged around so much. I love the look of the Telegame models,
<br\>> does anyone know about tapping the audio out on those models? Are the
<br\>> circuits the same as the regular Atari models? Thanks in advance.
<br\>>
<br\>> Chadwick W.D
<br\>> (((6)))
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi there- here's a pic from our last show with Ivanka on the 2600...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Chadwick W.D
<br\>c/o the Secret Society of the Sonic Six
<br\>PO BOX 463
<br\>Pasadena, CA
<br\>91102-0463
<br\>www.sssonicsix.com
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>---------------------------------
<br\>Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo!
<br\>FareChase.
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi there-
<br\>     I've found some TVs to use live w/2600 synthcart but they have rca
<br\>type connectors for audio/video in.  Any suggestions as to the easiest
<br\>way to get the signal split properly out of the 2600 into the TV's?
<br\>All I've seen are the standard rf switchboxes and the little coax
<br\>plugs people sell on ebay. nothing that ends in audio / video outs.
<br\>
<br\>    Also, I need to get a midi splitter box. I'm running the 2600, an
<br\>Arp Axxe/Little Brother and an MBase01 all off the same sequencer,
<br\>none of them have midi thru.  Any ideas as to the best deals out there?
<br\>
<br\>THANKS in advance.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Your best bet for getting composite video out of the Atari is to use one of
<br\>these mods http://www.cheeptech.com/2600mods/2600mods.shtml , I have used the
<br\>Ben Heckendorns mod and the CD4050 with good quality. However the CD4050 has no
<br\>amplifications and may not drive your screens.
<br\>
<br\>If you dont want to mod your atari you could always use a VCR.
<br\>
<br\>I can help much with your MIDI Thru issue.
<br\>
<br\>Good Luck,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message ----
<br\>From: chadwick_wd <chadwick_wd@yahoo.com>
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:47:58 PM
<br\>Subject: [synthcart] atari rf questions & midi quickie
<br\>
<br\>Hi there-
<br\>I've found some TVs to use live w/2600 synthcart but they have rca
<br\>type connectors for audio/video in. Any suggestions as to the easiest
<br\>way to get the signal split properly out of the 2600 into the TV's?
<br\>All I've seen are the standard rf switchboxes and the little coax
<br\>plugs people sell on ebay. nothing that ends in audio / video outs.
<br\>
<br\>Also, I need to get a midi splitter box. I'm running the 2600, an
<br\>Arp Axxe/Little Brother and an MBase01 all off the same sequencer,
<br\>none of them have midi thru. Any ideas as to the best deals out there?
<br\>
<br\>THANKS in advance.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
On Jul 19, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Chadwick W.D wrote:
<br\>> Hi there- here's a pic from our last show with Ivanka on the 2600...
<br\>> [...]
<br\>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>
<br\>Got a direct link instead?  I don't see an obvious shot on your web
<br\>site's "Photos" page...
<br\>--
<br\>//*================================================================++
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<br\>||  847-952-9729  RussPerryJr@sbcglobal.net  VIDEOGAME COLLECTOR!  ||
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Sorry, the pic is currently our default pic on myspace.
<br\>myspace.com/thesecretsocietyofthesonicsix should get you there
<br\>
<br\>chadwick
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Fully using Synthcart WITH Highlyliquid Midikit and WITHOUT a TV ?

Message:
<br\>
Everything you need to know is in the synthcart manual, and on the
<br\>highly liquid site, under MIDI2600-> midi implementation.
<br\>good luck!
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "h.brulard" <henrybrulard@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>> I would like to have tips to learn to control all (or nearly all)
<br\>> features of the synthcart without a TV (as I do not own one !) through
<br\>> midi. Can anybody help me? Thanks!
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
There are a number of "midi thru boxes" available from different
<br\>manufacturers, for well under $100. I have a Roland MM-4 that has 1
<br\>midi in, 4 midi outs. I've also seen plans for DIY midi thru mods...
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= burnkit2600.com =
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Your best bet for getting composite video out of the Atari is to use
<br\>one of these mods http://www.cheeptech.com/2600mods/2600mods.shtml , I
<br\>have used the Ben Heckendorns mod and the CD4050 with good quality.
<br\>However the CD4050 has no amplifications and may not drive your screens.
<br\>>
<br\>> If you dont want to mod your atari you could always use a VCR.
<br\>>
<br\>> I can help much with your MIDI Thru issue.
<br\>>
<br\>> Good Luck,
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> ----- Original Message ----
<br\>> From: chadwick_wd <chadwick_wd@...>
<br\>> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:47:58 PM
<br\>> Subject: [synthcart] atari rf questions & midi quickie
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi there-
<br\>> I've found some TVs to use live w/2600 synthcart but they have rca
<br\>> type connectors for audio/video in. Any suggestions as to the easiest
<br\>> way to get the signal split properly out of the 2600 into the TV's?
<br\>> All I've seen are the standard rf switchboxes and the little coax
<br\>> plugs people sell on ebay. nothing that ends in audio / video outs.
<br\>>
<br\>> Also, I need to get a midi splitter box. I'm running the 2600, an
<br\>> Arp Axxe/Little Brother and an MBase01 all off the same sequencer,
<br\>> none of them have midi thru. Any ideas as to the best deals out there?
<br\>>
<br\>> THANKS in advance.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I have a few Atari's i am getting rid of . I have allready put the 1/4
<br\>audio out in the systems. e-mail me at strange_pursuit@hotmail.com if
<br\>you are intrested.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Are there other midi adapters for the 2600?
<br\>Thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Are there other midi adapters for the 2600?
<br\>> Thanks
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Not that I know off, although any midi to switch converter should
<br\>work. Whats wrong with it?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>I have not bought one yet, and just curious. Please expand on the midi
<br\>to switch converter idea.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Are there other midi adapters for the 2600?
<br\>> > Thanks
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Not that I know off, although any midi to switch converter should
<br\>> work. Whats wrong with it?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hmm... I guess the midi to switch idea (whatever that was) is a fantasy?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Are there other midi adapters for the 2600?
<br\>> > Thanks
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Not that I know off, although any midi to switch converter should
<br\>> work. Whats wrong with it?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> hmm... I guess the midi to switch idea (whatever that was) is a fantasy?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>This is not a fantasy! This is reality! =D
<br\>
<br\>I suppose Peter was referring to something like Tom Scarff's MIDI to 24 outputs
<br\>(perfect,
<br\>because SynthCart over two controller has 24 buttons, yeah?)
<br\>
<br\>--> http://tomscarff.tripod.com/midi_24op/midi_to_24_outputs.htm
<br\>
<br\>I guess it just means doing a bit of stuff yourself, that's all. No probs. Doing
<br\>stuff can be fun.
<br\>
<br\>Regards,
<br\>Sebastian Tomczak
<br\>Adelaide, Australia
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
a bit of stuff?!! Very interesting...wish I had the time!
<br\>Thanks
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "sebastian_tomczak" <stomczak@...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > hmm... I guess the midi to switch idea (whatever that was) is a
<br\>fantasy?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> This is not a fantasy! This is reality! =D
<br\>>
<br\>> I suppose Peter was referring to something like Tom Scarff's MIDI to
<br\>24 outputs (perfect,
<br\>> because SynthCart over two controller has 24 buttons, yeah?)
<br\>>
<br\>> --> http://tomscarff.tripod.com/midi_24op/midi_to_24_outputs.htm
<br\>>
<br\>> I guess it just means doing a bit of stuff yourself, that's all. No
<br\>probs. Doing stuff can be fun.
<br\>>
<br\>> Regards,
<br\>> Sebastian Tomczak
<br\>> Adelaide, Australia
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
We reached the point that some of us had to be fearing of
<br\>
<br\>VSTi and difussion started to become our enemies,
<br\>cloning of ideals started mutation and blending
<br\>
<br\>house and pop music slowly started to leech our sounds,
<br\>ass well as rock music did. Mainstream is in the end of the tunnel...
<br\>
<br\>the end seem to be at sight.
<br\>so, I want to conclude my short words saying:
<br\>
<br\>LET US DESTROY 8-BIT and CHIPTUNE,
<br\>BEFORE MAINSTREAM START TO CLON US and replace our beings with pre-programmed
<br\>clowns.
<br\>
<br\>LETS SAY THIS MUSIC SUCKS, IT'S ALREADY SELL OUT,
<br\>TONGUE IN CHEEK, LAME AND STUPID. It is noisy and nervous.
<br\>It's a commercial fake! It's just nintendo and big companies propaganda!
<br\>
<br\>IT IS ALREADY DEAD.
<br\>
<br\>just some weird ideas...
<br\>
<br\>the end is comming. we are doomed. Media will eat us and transform into SHIT.
<br\>
<br\>thanks for reading. Love. Ignat/neotericz
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>       ______________________________________________
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<br\>Comparte tus consejos y opiniones con los usuarios de Yahoo! Respuestas
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
personally i dont agree
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>>Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: quiebre@yahoo.com
<br\>>Subject: [synthcart] CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:47:28 +0200 (CEST)
<br\>>
<br\>>We reached the point that some of us had to be fearing of
<br\>>
<br\>>VSTi and difussion started to become our enemies,
<br\>>cloning of ideals started mutation and blending
<br\>>
<br\>>house and pop music slowly started to leech our sounds,
<br\>>ass well as rock music did. Mainstream is in the end of the tunnel...
<br\>>
<br\>>the end seem to be at sight.
<br\>>so, I want to conclude my short words saying:
<br\>>
<br\>>LET US DESTROY 8-BIT and CHIPTUNE,
<br\>>BEFORE MAINSTREAM START TO CLON US and replace our beings with
<br\>>pre-programmed clowns.
<br\>>
<br\>>LETS SAY THIS MUSIC SUCKS, IT'S ALREADY SELL OUT,
<br\>>TONGUE IN CHEEK, LAME AND STUPID. It is noisy and nervous.
<br\>>It's a commercial fake! It's just nintendo and big companies propaganda!
<br\>>
<br\>>IT IS ALREADY DEAD.
<br\>>
<br\>>just some weird ideas...
<br\>>
<br\>>the end is comming. we are doomed. Media will eat us and transform into
<br\>>SHIT.
<br\>>
<br\>>thanks for reading. Love. Ignat/neotericz
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>       ______________________________________________
<br\>>Pregunta, Responde, Descubre.
<br\>>Comparte tus consejos y opiniones con los usuarios de Yahoo! Respuestas
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Be glad this shit is beyond small time cracks and demoparty's! You know you
<br\>all have a chubby to hear the SID sounds on the Motorolla Moutain Dewtronic
<br\>phonic waves.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>From: synthcart@yahoogroups.com [mailto:synthcart@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
<br\>Of Tim Musabay
<br\>Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:50 PM
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com; quiebre@yahoo.com
<br\>Subject: RE: [synthcart] CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>personally i dont agree
<br\>
<br\>>From: Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com <mailto:quiebre%40yahoo.com> >
<br\>>Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>
<br\>>To: quiebre@yahoo.com <mailto:quiebre%40yahoo.com>
<br\>>Subject: [synthcart] CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:47:28 +0200 (CEST)
<br\>>
<br\>>We reached the point that some of us had to be fearing of
<br\>>
<br\>>VSTi and difussion started to become our enemies,
<br\>>cloning of ideals started mutation and blending
<br\>>
<br\>>house and pop music slowly started to leech our sounds,
<br\>>ass well as rock music did. Mainstream is in the end of the tunnel...
<br\>>
<br\>>the end seem to be at sight.
<br\>>so, I want to conclude my short words saying:
<br\>>
<br\>>LET US DESTROY 8-BIT and CHIPTUNE,
<br\>>BEFORE MAINSTREAM START TO CLON US and replace our beings with
<br\>>pre-programmed clowns.
<br\>>
<br\>>LETS SAY THIS MUSIC SUCKS, IT'S ALREADY SELL OUT,
<br\>>TONGUE IN CHEEK, LAME AND STUPID. It is noisy and nervous.
<br\>>It's a commercial fake! It's just nintendo and big companies propaganda!
<br\>>
<br\>>IT IS ALREADY DEAD.
<br\>>
<br\>>just some weird ideas...
<br\>>
<br\>>the end is comming. we are doomed. Media will eat us and transform into
<br\>>SHIT.
<br\>>
<br\>>thanks for reading. Love. Ignat/neotericz
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> ______________________________________________
<br\>>Pregunta, Responde, Descubre.
<br\>>Comparte tus consejos y opiniones con los usuarios de Yahoo! Respuestas
<br\>>http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
You're right. Crystal Castles is a good example. However there is nothing
<br\>one can do about it. CHIPTUNERS won't die we'll just become elitists.
<br\>
<br\>On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:47:28 +0200 (CEST), Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> We reached the point that some of us had to be fearing of
<br\>>
<br\>> VSTi and difussion started to become our enemies,
<br\>> cloning of ideals started mutation and blending
<br\>>
<br\>> house and pop music slowly started to leech our sounds,
<br\>> ass well as rock music did. Mainstream is in the end of the tunnel...
<br\>>
<br\>> the end seem to be at sight.
<br\>> so, I want to conclude my short words saying:
<br\>>
<br\>> LET US DESTROY 8-BIT and CHIPTUNE,
<br\>> BEFORE MAINSTREAM START TO CLON US and replace our beings with
<br\>> pre-programmed clowns.
<br\>>
<br\>> LETS SAY THIS MUSIC SUCKS, IT'S ALREADY SELL OUT,
<br\>> TONGUE IN CHEEK, LAME AND STUPID. It is noisy and nervous.
<br\>> It's a commercial fake! It's just nintendo and big companies propaganda!
<br\>>
<br\>> IT IS ALREADY DEAD.
<br\>>
<br\>> just some weird ideas...
<br\>>
<br\>> the end is comming. we are doomed. Media will eat us and transform into
<br\>> SHIT.
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks for reading. Love. Ignat/neotericz
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>       ______________________________________________
<br\>> Pregunta, Responde, Descubre.
<br\>> Comparte tus consejos y opiniones con los usuarios de Yahoo! Respuestas
<br\>> http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome
<br\>--
<br\>http://xmail.uglatto.com/spencerthayer.gif
<br\>Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
fake shit can always be identified
<br\>posers always look and smell like posers
<br\>everything always gets gobbled up by capitalism...its just natural
<br\>for example
<br\>doesnt mean there still aint amazing blues, jazz, hip hop or whatever still
<br\>out there
<br\>and it for sure as hell aint a reason to abandon shit that you love
<br\>im a hip hop head and nowadays the way it went is pretty fucking disgusting
<br\>but it is still in my heart and "chiptunes", or whatever you wanna call it,
<br\>is too
<br\>
<br\>it is only an instrument to put across musical ideas and experiments
<br\>
<br\>>From: Spencer Thayer <Spencer@uglatto.com>
<br\>>Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>CC: quiebre@yahoo.com
<br\>>Subject: Re: [synthcart] CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:25:57 -0700
<br\>>
<br\>>You're right. Crystal Castles is a good example. However there is nothing
<br\>>one can do about it. CHIPTUNERS won't die we'll just become elitists.
<br\>>
<br\>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:47:28 +0200 (CEST), Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>>wrote:
<br\>> > We reached the point that some of us had to be fearing of
<br\>> >
<br\>> > VSTi and difussion started to become our enemies,
<br\>> > cloning of ideals started mutation and blending
<br\>> >
<br\>> > house and pop music slowly started to leech our sounds,
<br\>> > ass well as rock music did. Mainstream is in the end of the tunnel...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > the end seem to be at sight.
<br\>> > so, I want to conclude my short words saying:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > LET US DESTROY 8-BIT and CHIPTUNE,
<br\>> > BEFORE MAINSTREAM START TO CLON US and replace our beings with
<br\>> > pre-programmed clowns.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > LETS SAY THIS MUSIC SUCKS, IT'S ALREADY SELL OUT,
<br\>> > TONGUE IN CHEEK, LAME AND STUPID. It is noisy and nervous.
<br\>> > It's a commercial fake! It's just nintendo and big companies propaganda!
<br\>> >
<br\>> > IT IS ALREADY DEAD.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > just some weird ideas...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > the end is comming. we are doomed. Media will eat us and transform into
<br\>> > SHIT.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > thanks for reading. Love. Ignat/neotericz
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >       ______________________________________________
<br\>> > Pregunta, Responde, Descubre.
<br\>> > Comparte tus consejos y opiniones con los usuarios de Yahoo! Respuestas
<br\>> > http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome
<br\>>--
<br\>>http://xmail.uglatto.com/spencerthayer.gif
<br\>>Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Isn't most classic chip music a rip of of kraftwerk or power
<br\>metal(Crass generalization)? The snake eats its tail. Things will
<br\>influence culture, be influenced by the culture that precedes it and
<br\>be co-opted by the culture that comes after it. Get used to it.
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
.. And Eddie Van Hallen created chiptune...
<br\>
<br\>Aldo Uriel 13.6.
<br\>
<br\>--- PeLeSwi <kradlabs@yahoo.com> escribió:
<br\>
<br\>> Isn't most classic chip music a rip of of kraftwerk or power
<br\>> metal(Crass generalization)? The snake eats its tail. Things will
<br\>> influence culture, be influenced by the culture that precedes it and
<br\>> be co-opted by the culture that comes after it. Get used to it.
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>________________________________________________________________________________\
<br\>____
<br\>Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine
<br\>¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!
<br\>http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/reto/entretenimiento.html
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
haha...people comin out the woodworks.....i like it
<br\>btw....dont know much about encoding but is there any way to utilize this
<br\>supercharger (like cuttle for 2600, obviously) i found?...seems to be in
<br\>perfect condition
<br\>
<br\>i remember hearing something about a "loopcart" in the works and somehow
<br\>using it with a supercharger?
<br\>
<br\>sorry im a lil slow
<br\>well
<br\>maybe not a lil.....
<br\>tim
<br\>
<br\>>From: Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>>Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>Subject: RE: [synthcart] Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:05:29 +0200 (CEST)
<br\>>
<br\>>.. And Eddie Van Hallen created chiptune...
<br\>>
<br\>>Aldo Uriel 13.6.
<br\>>
<br\>>--- PeLeSwi <kradlabs@yahoo.com> escribió:
<br\>>
<br\>> > Isn't most classic chip music a rip of of kraftwerk or power
<br\>> > metal(Crass generalization)? The snake eats its tail. Things will
<br\>> > influence culture, be influenced by the culture that precedes it and
<br\>> > be co-opted by the culture that comes after it. Get used to it.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Peter
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>_______________________________________________________________________________\
<br\>_____
<br\>>Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine
<br\>>¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!
<br\>>http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/reto/entretenimiento.html
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Well, Maybe it was a mistake to put this manifesto in this mail list (but not in
<br\>others)
<br\>
<br\>Synthcart is a really creative tool that put your mind in a special state.
<br\>Maybe the music born from it is not so in danger as lsdj or other tools music.
<br\>
<br\>Btw, I fear Mainsttream, It will be cruel and ugly if this happens.
<br\>
<br\>Long life to experiments and investigators.
<br\>
<br\>Synthcart put you in a trance ;)
<br\>
<br\>love. Ignacio.
<br\>
<br\>--- Tim Musabay <kotepomegatron@hotmail.com> escribió:
<br\>
<br\>> fake shit can always be identified
<br\>> posers always look and smell like posers
<br\>> everything always gets gobbled up by capitalism...its just natural
<br\>> for example
<br\>> doesnt mean there still aint amazing blues, jazz, hip hop or whatever still
<br\>> out there
<br\>> and it for sure as hell aint a reason to abandon shit that you love
<br\>> im a hip hop head and nowadays the way it went is pretty fucking disgusting
<br\>> but it is still in my heart and "chiptunes", or whatever you wanna call it,
<br\>> is too
<br\>>
<br\>> it is only an instrument to put across musical ideas and experiments
<br\>>
<br\>> >From: Spencer Thayer <Spencer@uglatto.com>
<br\>> >Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >CC: quiebre@yahoo.com
<br\>> >Subject: Re: [synthcart] CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>> >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:25:57 -0700
<br\>> >
<br\>> >You're right. Crystal Castles is a good example. However there is nothing
<br\>> >one can do about it. CHIPTUNERS won't die we'll just become elitists.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:47:28 +0200 (CEST), Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>> >wrote:
<br\>> > > We reached the point that some of us had to be fearing of
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > VSTi and difussion started to become our enemies,
<br\>> > > cloning of ideals started mutation and blending
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > house and pop music slowly started to leech our sounds,
<br\>> > > ass well as rock music did. Mainstream is in the end of the tunnel...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > the end seem to be at sight.
<br\>> > > so, I want to conclude my short words saying:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > LET US DESTROY 8-BIT and CHIPTUNE,
<br\>> > > BEFORE MAINSTREAM START TO CLON US and replace our beings with
<br\>> > > pre-programmed clowns.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > LETS SAY THIS MUSIC SUCKS, IT'S ALREADY SELL OUT,
<br\>> > > TONGUE IN CHEEK, LAME AND STUPID. It is noisy and nervous.
<br\>> > > It's a commercial fake! It's just nintendo and big companies propaganda!
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > IT IS ALREADY DEAD.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > just some weird ideas...
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > the end is comming. we are doomed. Media will eat us and transform into
<br\>> > > SHIT.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > thanks for reading. Love. Ignat/neotericz
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >       ______________________________________________
<br\>> > > Pregunta, Responde, Descubre.
<br\>> > > Comparte tus consejos y opiniones con los usuarios de Yahoo! Respuestas
<br\>> > > http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome
<br\>> >--
<br\>> >http://xmail.uglatto.com/spencerthayer.gif
<br\>> >Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>
yo ignatz it does piss me off but hey fuck it...........we just gotta come
<br\>harder and better.....
<br\>the more commercial it goes...the more underground the true followers should
<br\>go.....
<br\>good shit thou....puttin this out there.....
<br\>
<br\>most activity i seen from the yahoo group in AGES!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>>Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>Subject: Re: [synthcart] CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:36:01 +0200 (CEST)
<br\>>
<br\>>Well, Maybe it was a mistake to put this manifesto in this mail list (but
<br\>>not in others)
<br\>>
<br\>>Synthcart is a really creative tool that put your mind in a special state.
<br\>>Maybe the music born from it is not so in danger as lsdj or other tools
<br\>>music.
<br\>>
<br\>>Btw, I fear Mainsttream, It will be cruel and ugly if this happens.
<br\>>
<br\>>Long life to experiments and investigators.
<br\>>
<br\>>Synthcart put you in a trance ;)
<br\>>
<br\>>love. Ignacio.
<br\>>
<br\>>--- Tim Musabay <kotepomegatron@hotmail.com> escribió:
<br\>>
<br\>> > fake shit can always be identified
<br\>> > posers always look and smell like posers
<br\>> > everything always gets gobbled up by capitalism...its just natural
<br\>> > for example
<br\>> > doesnt mean there still aint amazing blues, jazz, hip hop or whatever
<br\>>still
<br\>> > out there
<br\>> > and it for sure as hell aint a reason to abandon shit that you love
<br\>> > im a hip hop head and nowadays the way it went is pretty fucking
<br\>>disgusting
<br\>> > but it is still in my heart and "chiptunes", or whatever you wanna call
<br\>>it,
<br\>> > is too
<br\>> >
<br\>> > it is only an instrument to put across musical ideas and experiments
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >From: Spencer Thayer <Spencer@uglatto.com>
<br\>> > >Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > >To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > >CC: quiebre@yahoo.com
<br\>> > >Subject: Re: [synthcart] CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>> > >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:25:57 -0700
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >You're right. Crystal Castles is a good example. However there is
<br\>>nothing
<br\>> > >one can do about it. CHIPTUNERS won't die we'll just become elitists.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:47:28 +0200 (CEST), Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>> > >wrote:
<br\>> > > > We reached the point that some of us had to be fearing of
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > VSTi and difussion started to become our enemies,
<br\>> > > > cloning of ideals started mutation and blending
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > house and pop music slowly started to leech our sounds,
<br\>> > > > ass well as rock music did. Mainstream is in the end of the
<br\>>tunnel...
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > the end seem to be at sight.
<br\>> > > > so, I want to conclude my short words saying:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > LET US DESTROY 8-BIT and CHIPTUNE,
<br\>> > > > BEFORE MAINSTREAM START TO CLON US and replace our beings with
<br\>> > > > pre-programmed clowns.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > LETS SAY THIS MUSIC SUCKS, IT'S ALREADY SELL OUT,
<br\>> > > > TONGUE IN CHEEK, LAME AND STUPID. It is noisy and nervous.
<br\>> > > > It's a commercial fake! It's just nintendo and big companies
<br\>>propaganda!
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > IT IS ALREADY DEAD.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > just some weird ideas...
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > the end is comming. we are doomed. Media will eat us and transform
<br\>>into
<br\>> > > > SHIT.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > thanks for reading. Love. Ignat/neotericz
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >       ______________________________________________
<br\>> > > > Pregunta, Responde, Descubre.
<br\>> > > > Comparte tus consejos y opiniones con los usuarios de Yahoo!
<br\>>Respuestas
<br\>> > > > http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome
<br\>> > >--
<br\>> > >http://xmail.uglatto.com/spencerthayer.gif
<br\>> > >Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer
<br\>> > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>_______________________________________________________________________________\
<br\>_____
<br\>>Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine
<br\>>¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!
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Message:
<br\>
yeah, I think the current version of the Loopcart on my site runs on the
<br\>Supercharger, although the final version will be too big.  You can also
<br\>use the Sequencer Kit to create stuff that you can use on the Supercharger.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Tim Musabay wrote:
<br\>> haha...people comin out the woodworks.....i like it
<br\>> btw....dont know much about encoding but is there any way to utilize this
<br\>> supercharger (like cuttle for 2600, obviously) i found?...seems to be in
<br\>> perfect condition
<br\>>
<br\>> i remember hearing something about a "loopcart" in the works and somehow
<br\>> using it with a supercharger?
<br\>>
<br\>> sorry im a lil slow
<br\>> well
<br\>> maybe not a lil.....
<br\>> tim
<br\>>
<br\>>> From: Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>>> Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>> Subject: RE: [synthcart] Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:05:29 +0200 (CEST)
<br\>>>
<br\>>> .. And Eddie Van Hallen created chiptune...
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Aldo Uriel 13.6.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> --- PeLeSwi <kradlabs@yahoo.com> escribió:
<br\>>>
<br\>>>> Isn't most classic chip music a rip of of kraftwerk or power
<br\>>>> metal(Crass generalization)? The snake eats its tail. Things will
<br\>>>> influence culture, be influenced by the culture that precedes it and
<br\>>>> be co-opted by the culture that comes after it. Get used to it.
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> Peter
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>________________________________________________________________________________\
<br\>____
<br\>>> Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine
<br\>>> ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!
<br\>>> http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/reto/entretenimiento.html
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
Will you make available carts of loopcart?
<br\>
<br\>sorry if I put some confusion here or anywhere else..
<br\>
<br\>I guess our sceene needs some shakes and gain concious of certain facts.
<br\>There are some threats hidding here and there btw...
<br\>
<br\>Long Life to Synth and loop cart. Loving your work. synthcart is pure xtc
<br\>LOVE. Ignat.
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> escribió:
<br\>
<br\>> yeah, I think the current version of the Loopcart on my site runs on the
<br\>> Supercharger, although the final version will be too big.  You can also
<br\>> use the Sequencer Kit to create stuff that you can use on the Supercharger.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> Tim Musabay wrote:
<br\>> > haha...people comin out the woodworks.....i like it
<br\>> > btw....dont know much about encoding but is there any way to utilize this
<br\>> > supercharger (like cuttle for 2600, obviously) i found?...seems to be in
<br\>> > perfect condition
<br\>> >
<br\>> > i remember hearing something about a "loopcart" in the works and somehow
<br\>> > using it with a supercharger?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > sorry im a lil slow
<br\>> > well
<br\>> > maybe not a lil.....
<br\>> > tim
<br\>> >
<br\>> >> From: Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>> >> Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >> Subject: RE: [synthcart] Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>> >> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:05:29 +0200 (CEST)
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> .. And Eddie Van Hallen created chiptune...
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> Aldo Uriel 13.6.
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> --- PeLeSwi <kradlabs@yahoo.com> escribió:
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>> Isn't most classic chip music a rip of of kraftwerk or power
<br\>> >>> metal(Crass generalization)? The snake eats its tail. Things will
<br\>> >>> influence culture, be influenced by the culture that precedes it and
<br\>> >>> be co-opted by the culture that comes after it. Get used to it.
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>> Peter
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>________________________________________________________________________________\
<br\>____
<br\>> >> Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine
<br\>> >> ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!
<br\>> >> http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/reto/entretenimiento.html
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>________________________________________________________________________________\
<br\>____
<br\>Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine
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Message:
<br\>
ok thanks paul....i will investigate.....not sure how to go about that with
<br\>the supercharger and a mac powerbook......
<br\>again man
<br\>thanks so much for synthcart....still use it to this day on tracks and even
<br\>songs i produce for other musicians....the shit is a goddamn instrument and
<br\>i thank you for your work.....
<br\>tim
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>ps umm how do you do that.....hahha jus kiddin
<br\>
<br\>or am i? hah
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com>
<br\>>Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:47:24 -0500
<br\>>
<br\>>yeah, I think the current version of the Loopcart on my site runs on the
<br\>>Supercharger, although the final version will be too big.  You can also
<br\>>use the Sequencer Kit to create stuff that you can use on the Supercharger.
<br\>>
<br\>>-paul
<br\>>
<br\>>Tim Musabay wrote:
<br\>> > haha...people comin out the woodworks.....i like it
<br\>> > btw....dont know much about encoding but is there any way to utilize
<br\>>this
<br\>> > supercharger (like cuttle for 2600, obviously) i found?...seems to be in
<br\>> > perfect condition
<br\>> >
<br\>> > i remember hearing something about a "loopcart" in the works and somehow
<br\>> > using it with a supercharger?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > sorry im a lil slow
<br\>> > well
<br\>> > maybe not a lil.....
<br\>> > tim
<br\>> >
<br\>> >> From: Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>> >> Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >> Subject: RE: [synthcart] Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>> >> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:05:29 +0200 (CEST)
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> .. And Eddie Van Hallen created chiptune...
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> Aldo Uriel 13.6.
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> --- PeLeSwi <kradlabs@yahoo.com> escribió:
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>> Isn't most classic chip music a rip of of kraftwerk or power
<br\>> >>> metal(Crass generalization)? The snake eats its tail. Things will
<br\>> >>> influence culture, be influenced by the culture that precedes it and
<br\>> >>> be co-opted by the culture that comes after it. Get used to it.
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>> Peter
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>>_______________________________________________________________________________\
<br\>_____
<br\>> >> Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine
<br\>> >> ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!
<br\>> >> http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/reto/entretenimiento.html
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
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Message:
<br\>
You'll probably have to use a Windows emulator or something to do it.
<br\>
<br\>I do plan on releasing the Loopcart on cartridge eventually.  Have no
<br\>idea when I'll finish it tho.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Tim Musabay wrote:
<br\>> ok thanks paul....i will investigate.....not sure how to go about that with
<br\>> the supercharger and a mac powerbook......
<br\>> again man
<br\>> thanks so much for synthcart....still use it to this day on tracks and even
<br\>> songs i produce for other musicians....the shit is a goddamn instrument and
<br\>> i thank you for your work.....
<br\>> tim
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> ps umm how do you do that.....hahha jus kiddin
<br\>>
<br\>> or am i? hah
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>> From: Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com>
<br\>>> Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>> Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:47:24 -0500
<br\>>>
<br\>>> yeah, I think the current version of the Loopcart on my site runs on the
<br\>>> Supercharger, although the final version will be too big.  You can also
<br\>>> use the Sequencer Kit to create stuff that you can use on the Supercharger.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> -paul
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Tim Musabay wrote:
<br\>>>> haha...people comin out the woodworks.....i like it
<br\>>>> btw....dont know much about encoding but is there any way to utilize
<br\>>> this
<br\>>>> supercharger (like cuttle for 2600, obviously) i found?...seems to be in
<br\>>>> perfect condition
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> i remember hearing something about a "loopcart" in the works and somehow
<br\>>>> using it with a supercharger?
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> sorry im a lil slow
<br\>>>> well
<br\>>>> maybe not a lil.....
<br\>>>> tim
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>> From: Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com>
<br\>>>>> Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>>>> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>>>> Subject: RE: [synthcart] Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>>>> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:05:29 +0200 (CEST)
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> .. And Eddie Van Hallen created chiptune...
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> Aldo Uriel 13.6.
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> --- PeLeSwi <kradlabs@yahoo.com> escribió:
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>> Isn't most classic chip music a rip of of kraftwerk or power
<br\>>>>>> metal(Crass generalization)? The snake eats its tail. Things will
<br\>>>>>> influence culture, be influenced by the culture that precedes it and
<br\>>>>>> be co-opted by the culture that comes after it. Get used to it.
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>> Peter
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>________________________________________________________________________________\
<br\>____
<br\>>>>> Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine
<br\>>>>> ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!
<br\>>>>> http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/reto/entretenimiento.html
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Message:
<br\>
Parallels on the Mac will work with XP and Vista to emulate just fine..
<br\>Stella Emu is a good one for 2600.. I use it on my modded xbox w.synthcart
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>From: synthcart@yahoogroups.com [mailto:synthcart@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
<br\>Of Paul Slocum
<br\>Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:49 AM
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>You'll probably have to use a Windows emulator or something to do it.
<br\>
<br\>I do plan on releasing the Loopcart on cartridge eventually. Have no
<br\>idea when I'll finish it tho.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Tim Musabay wrote:
<br\>> ok thanks paul....i will investigate.....not sure how to go about that
<br\>with
<br\>> the supercharger and a mac powerbook......
<br\>> again man
<br\>> thanks so much for synthcart....still use it to this day on tracks and
<br\>even
<br\>> songs i produce for other musicians....the shit is a goddamn instrument
<br\>and
<br\>> i thank you for your work.....
<br\>> tim
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> ps umm how do you do that.....hahha jus kiddin
<br\>>
<br\>> or am i? hah
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>> From: Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com <mailto:paul%40treewave.com> >
<br\>>> Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>
<br\>>> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>
<br\>>> Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:47:24 -0500
<br\>>>
<br\>>> yeah, I think the current version of the Loopcart on my site runs on the
<br\>>> Supercharger, although the final version will be too big. You can also
<br\>>> use the Sequencer Kit to create stuff that you can use on the
<br\>Supercharger.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> -paul
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Tim Musabay wrote:
<br\>>>> haha...people comin out the woodworks.....i like it
<br\>>>> btw....dont know much about encoding but is there any way to utilize
<br\>>> this
<br\>>>> supercharger (like cuttle for 2600, obviously) i found?...seems to be in
<br\>>>> perfect condition
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> i remember hearing something about a "loopcart" in the works and somehow
<br\>>>> using it with a supercharger?
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> sorry im a lil slow
<br\>>>> well
<br\>>>> maybe not a lil.....
<br\>>>> tim
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>> From: Ignatz <quiebre@yahoo.com <mailto:quiebre%40yahoo.com> >
<br\>>>>> Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\><mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>
<br\>>>>> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>
<br\>>>>> Subject: RE: [synthcart] Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD . Manifesto
<br\>>>>> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:05:29 +0200 (CEST)
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> .. And Eddie Van Hallen created chiptune...
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> Aldo Uriel 13.6.
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>> --- PeLeSwi <kradlabs@yahoo.com <mailto:kradlabs%40yahoo.com> >
<br\>escribió:
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>> Isn't most classic chip music a rip of of kraftwerk or power
<br\>>>>>> metal(Crass generalization)? The snake eats its tail. Things will
<br\>>>>>> influence culture, be influenced by the culture that precedes it and
<br\>>>>>> be co-opted by the culture that comes after it. Get used to it.
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>> Peter
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>>>>
<br\>>> __________________________________________________________
<br\>>>>> Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine
<br\>>>>> ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!
<br\>>>>> http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/reto/entretenimiento.html
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
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<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
http://abitbent.com/lsdj.html
<br\>
<br\>From the LSDJ List, now see
<br\>
<br\>http://abitbent.com/atari.html
<br\>
<br\>Hopefully someone can shut this guy down.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
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Message:
<br\>
People do this type of thing all the time on eBay. Not much you can do
<br\>unless you want to waiste money on a lawyer or want to make non
<br\>binding threats to him.
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Spencer Thayer <Spencer@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> People do this type of thing all the time on eBay. Not much you can do
<br\>> unless you want to waiste money on a lawyer or want to make non
<br\>> binding threats to him.
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>Yea im kinda hoping to get some kind of community harassment.
<br\>
<br\>:D
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
although this is not the forum for this Peter, actually this guy is
<br\>very cool and made me happy when I needed an LSDj cart made, so I
<br\>don't see why you're so upset?
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Spencer Thayer <Spencer@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > People do this type of thing all the time on eBay. Not much you
<br\>can do
<br\>> > unless you want to waiste money on a lawyer or want to make non
<br\>> > binding threats to him.
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> Yea im kinda hoping to get some kind of community harassment.
<br\>>
<br\>> :D
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Can't speak for Peter, but it makes me upset because he's selling other
<br\>people's software for personal gain.  Nice to hear it made you happy
<br\>though.
<br\>
<br\>On Sun, September 2, 2007 10:27 pm, fun.email wrote:
<br\>> although this is not the forum for this Peter, actually this guy is
<br\>> very cool and made me happy when I needed an LSDj cart made, so I
<br\>> don't see why you're so upset?
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Spencer Thayer <Spencer@> wrote:
<br\>>> >
<br\>>> > People do this type of thing all the time on eBay. Not much you
<br\>> can do
<br\>>> > unless you want to waiste money on a lawyer or want to make non
<br\>>> > binding threats to him.
<br\>>> >
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Yea im kinda hoping to get some kind of community harassment.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> :D
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Peter
<br\>>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> although this is not the forum for this Peter, actually this guy is
<br\>> very cool and made me happy when I needed an LSDj cart made, so I
<br\>> don't see why you're so upset?
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Because he is making money off of other artists work in creating the
<br\>software. If he was selling things at cost it would be one thing, but
<br\>to create an obvious commercial venture off others handy work without
<br\>their permissions, and advertising it lik he is some kind of offical
<br\>dude (like wtf is the 8bit operators crap), is particularly odious.
<br\>
<br\>When you bought LSDJ, did you get a login and password for the lsdj
<br\>site for rom updates? If not, you got ripped off too.
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Guys, they are actually buying Synthcarts from AtariAge, so these are
<br\>legitimate copies they are bundling with 2600 systems and
<br\>controllers.  There are actually a few different people doing this.
<br\>No need to sound the alarms here.  :)
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On Sep 2, 2007, at 7:34 PM, PeLeSwi wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>> although this is not the forum for this Peter, actually this guy is
<br\>>> very cool and made me happy when I needed an LSDj cart made, so I
<br\>>> don't see why you're so upset?
<br\>>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Because he is making money off of other artists work in creating the
<br\>> software. If he was selling things at cost it would be one thing, but
<br\>> to create an obvious commercial venture off others handy work without
<br\>> their permissions, and advertising it lik he is some kind of offical
<br\>> dude (like wtf is the 8bit operators crap), is particularly odious.
<br\>>
<br\>> When you bought LSDJ, did you get a login and password for the lsdj
<br\>> site for rom updates? If not, you got ripped off too.
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>_______________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso
<br\>albert@atariage.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hmmm. That's what I was thinking.
<br\>
<br\>Still, price is still a little steep, no?
<br\>
<br\>Regards,
<br\>Sebastian Tomczak
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Guys, they are actually buying Synthcarts from AtariAge, so these are
<br\>> legitimate copies they are bundling with 2600 systems and
<br\>> controllers.  There are actually a few different people doing this.
<br\>> No need to sound the alarms here.  :)
<br\>>
<br\>>   ..Al
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yeah, you can certainly get all the various pieces for less money,
<br\>but I'm sure some people like the convenience of buying a complete
<br\>solution..
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On Sep 2, 2007, at 9:15 PM, sebastian_tomczak wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Hmmm. That's what I was thinking.
<br\>>
<br\>> Still, price is still a little steep, no?
<br\>>
<br\>> Regards,
<br\>> Sebastian Tomczak
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@...> wrote:
<br\>>>
<br\>>> Guys, they are actually buying Synthcarts from AtariAge, so these are
<br\>>> legitimate copies they are bundling with 2600 systems and
<br\>>> controllers.  There are actually a few different people doing this.
<br\>>> No need to sound the alarms here.  :)
<br\>>>
<br\>>>   ..Al
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>_______________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso
<br\>albert@atariage.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
reminds me of a country yrs ago where Microsoft would not ship to so
<br\>everyone was bootlegging...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "PeLeSwi" <kradlabs@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > although this is not the forum for this Peter, actually this guy is
<br\>> > very cool and made me happy when I needed an LSDj cart made, so I
<br\>> > don't see why you're so upset?
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Because he is making money off of other artists work in creating the
<br\>> software. If he was selling things at cost it would be one thing, but
<br\>> to create an obvious commercial venture off others handy work without
<br\>> their permissions, and advertising it lik he is some kind of offical
<br\>> dude (like wtf is the 8bit operators crap), is particularly odious.
<br\>>
<br\>> When you bought LSDJ, did you get a login and password for the lsdj
<br\>> site for rom updates? If not, you got ripped off too.
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Be that as it may, considering he was selling LSDj until around this
<br\>weekend, and looks to still be selling freeware for $95.00, I think some
<br\>critical vigilance is still warranted.
<br\>
<br\>Josh
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:15 am, Albert Yarusso wrote:
<br\>> Guys, they are actually buying Synthcarts from AtariAge, so these are
<br\>> legitimate copies they are bundling with 2600 systems and
<br\>> controllers. There are actually a few different people doing this.
<br\>> No need to sound the alarms here. :)
<br\>>
<br\>> ..Al
<br\>>
<br\>> On Sep 2, 2007, at 7:34 PM, PeLeSwi wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>>  --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>>  although this is not the forum for this Peter, actually this guy is
<br\>>>>  very cool and made me happy when I needed an LSDj cart made, so I
<br\>>>>  don't see why you're so upset?
<br\>>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>  Because he is making money off of other artists work in creating the
<br\>>>  software. If he was selling things at cost it would be one thing, but
<br\>>>  to create an obvious commercial venture off others handy work without
<br\>>>  their permissions, and advertising it lik he is some kind of offical
<br\>>>  dude (like wtf is the 8bit operators crap), is particularly odious.
<br\>>>
<br\>>>  When you bought LSDJ, did you get a login and password for the lsdj
<br\>>>  site for rom updates? If not, you got ripped off too.
<br\>>>
<br\>>>  Peter
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>  Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>
<br\>> _______________________
<br\>> Albert Yarusso
<br\>> albert@atariage.com
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>.: BIT SHIFTER ::.:..:::.::.. ::. .:::. ::.:.. . .:: .    .
<br\>.: http://bit.shifter.net/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yeah, getting all the equipment in good working order is a little bit of
<br\>a hassle if you're starting from scratch.  If people will pay what he's
<br\>asking then cool.  I have no problem with it.
<br\>
<br\>As long as he's purchasing a LSDJ ROM for each cart he sells then
<br\>there's no problem there either.  Not sure if that's the case.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Albert Yarusso wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yeah, you can certainly get all the various pieces for less money,
<br\>> but I'm sure some people like the convenience of buying a complete
<br\>> solution..
<br\>>
<br\>> ..Al
<br\>>
<br\>> On Sep 2, 2007, at 9:15 PM, sebastian_tomczak wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>  > Hmmm. That's what I was thinking.
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > Still, price is still a little steep, no?
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > Regards,
<br\>>  > Sebastian Tomczak
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, Albert Yarusso <albert@...> wrote:
<br\>>  >>
<br\>>  >> Guys, they are actually buying Synthcarts from AtariAge, so these are
<br\>>  >> legitimate copies they are bundling with 2600 systems and
<br\>>  >> controllers. There are actually a few different people doing this.
<br\>>  >> No need to sound the alarms here. :)
<br\>>  >>
<br\>>  >> ..Al
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>
<br\>> _______________________
<br\>> Albert Yarusso
<br\>> albert@atariage.com <mailto:albert%40atariage.com>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So, like, has anyone asked this guy if he does have (and then subsequently
<br\>passes on) the
<br\>rights to each lsdj ROM that he sells on a cart?
<br\>
<br\>Sebastian Tomczak
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Yeah, getting all the equipment in good working order is a little bit of
<br\>> a hassle if you're starting from scratch.  If people will pay what he's
<br\>> asking then cool.  I have no problem with it.
<br\>>
<br\>> As long as he's purchasing a LSDJ ROM for each cart he sells then
<br\>> there's no problem there either.  Not sure if that's the case.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> Albert Yarusso wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Yeah, you can certainly get all the various pieces for less money,
<br\>> > but I'm sure some people like the convenience of buying a complete
<br\>> > solution..
<br\>> >
<br\>> > ..Al
<br\>> >
<br\>> > On Sep 2, 2007, at 9:15 PM, sebastian_tomczak wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >  > Hmmm. That's what I was thinking.
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > Still, price is still a little steep, no?
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > Regards,
<br\>> >  > Sebastian Tomczak
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> > <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>, Albert Yarusso <albert@> wrote:
<br\>> >  >>
<br\>> >  >> Guys, they are actually buying Synthcarts from AtariAge, so these are
<br\>> >  >> legitimate copies they are bundling with 2600 systems and
<br\>> >  >> controllers. There are actually a few different people doing this.
<br\>> >  >> No need to sound the alarms here. :)
<br\>> >  >>
<br\>> >  >> ..Al
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  > Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >  >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > _______________________
<br\>> > Albert Yarusso
<br\>> > albert@... <mailto:albert%40atariage.com>
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> reminds me of a country yrs ago where Microsoft would not ship to so
<br\>> everyone was bootlegging...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Yea but everyone can get the LSDJ Rom. He asked for Johans permission
<br\>apparently and was turned down, and continues to sell anyways. If you
<br\>would answer the questiosn about wether he gave you a LSDJ login, i'd
<br\>feel alot better about the guy, but no one has comfirmed that he
<br\>actually does that.
<br\>
<br\>  If atariage is cool with reselling and Paul is cool with someone
<br\>reselling stuff at a laughably high price Ill stop complaining about
<br\>it here. Sorry for bothering.
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Subject:
Cynthcart on PAL C64 quick & dirty hardware hack

SubjectSrt:
Cynthcart on PAL C64 quick & dirty hardware hack

Message:
<br\>
Note to you PAL C64 users still suffering from the NTSC tuning table problem (as
<br\>discussed here before):
<br\>
<br\>Today I swapped the quartz oscillator (Y1) of my Cynthcart dedicated C64
<br\>motherboard
<br\>with a 14.31818MHz crystal (like the NTSC breadbox has) and changed the jumper
<br\>from
<br\>PAL to NTSC. As a result the system clock is 1022727.143Hz and therefore
<br\>Cynthcart
<br\>nicely in tune now.
<br\>
<br\>However since there's still working a PAL VIC inside, the video display is
<br\>little messed up.
<br\>On my oldschool PAL commodore CRT the image is sharp but black & white; my
<br\>newschool chinese TFT-TV (supposed to accept both PAL & NTSC) doesn't display
<br\>anything, though..
<br\>
<br\>If you, like me, are using Cynthcart on a headless C64 that's not supposed to
<br\>run anything
<br\>else this is an option till we (hopefully) get an update offering PAL-in-tune.
<br\>
<br\>Of course, if it's your only breadbox and you're gaming a lot or cant't do
<br\>without the on
<br\>screen lightshow you don´t want to do the hack. Or at least hook up a switch and
<br\>leave
<br\>the PAL crystal in there, too...
<br\>
<br\>happy soldering ;)
<br\>
<br\>ron.
<br\>
<br\>PS: CHIP MUSIC IS STILL ALIVE :D
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Average working Atari 2600 w/ power supply on ebay shipped $35-$45
<br\>Synthcart shipped $29
<br\>2 Video touch pads off ebay shipped $16
<br\>
<br\>We're at $80-$90, then consider the time it takes to acquire the stuff,
<br\>to do the 1/4" audio-out modification, to test and clean everything,
<br\>print the overlays, pack up stuff to ship.  $155 shipped seems pretty
<br\>reasonable to me.  And from a musician's perspective, $155 for a
<br\>ready-to-go unique synth module with a video interface seems like a
<br\>reasonable deal too.
<br\>
<br\>I've put together packages like that for people before, and I wouldn't
<br\>do it for much less unless they were friends of mine.  It's just too
<br\>much time and hassle.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>PeLeSwi wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>,
<br\>> "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > reminds me of a country yrs ago where Microsoft would not ship to so
<br\>>  > everyone was bootlegging...
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>
<br\>> Yea but everyone can get the LSDJ Rom. He asked for Johans permission
<br\>> apparently and was turned down, and continues to sell anyways. If you
<br\>> would answer the questiosn about wether he gave you a LSDJ login, i'd
<br\>> feel alot better about the guy, but no one has comfirmed that he
<br\>> actually does that.
<br\>>
<br\>> If atariage is cool with reselling and Paul is cool with someone
<br\>> reselling stuff at a laughably high price Ill stop complaining about
<br\>> it here. Sorry for bothering.
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
True the 1/4" audio-out modification is a pain. That alone would make
<br\>it worth it for the less electronicly savy chip musician.
<br\>  On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:06:21 -0500, Paul Slocum  wrote:
<br\>  Average working Atari 2600 w/ power supply on ebay shipped $35-$45
<br\>  Synthcart shipped $29
<br\>  2 Video touch pads off ebay shipped $16
<br\>  We're at $80-$90, then consider the time it takes to acquire the
<br\>stuff,
<br\>  to do the 1/4" audio-out modification, to test and clean everything,
<br\>
<br\>  print the overlays, pack up stuff to ship.  $155 shipped seems
<br\>pretty
<br\>  reasonable to me.  And from a musician's perspective, $155 for a
<br\>  ready-to-go unique synth module with a video interface seems like a
<br\>  reasonable deal too.
<br\>  I've put together packages like that for people before, and I
<br\>wouldn't
<br\>  do it for much less unless they were friends of mine.  It's just too
<br\>
<br\>  much time and hassle.
<br\>  -paul
<br\>  PeLeSwi wrote:
<br\>  >
<br\>  >
<br\>  > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com [1] 40yahoogroups.com>,
<br\>  > "fun.email" ..> wrote:
<br\>  >  >
<br\>  >  > reminds
<br\>me of a country yrs ago where Microsoft would not ship
<br\>to so
<br\>  >  > everyone was bootlegging...
<br\>  >  >
<br\>  >  >
<br\>  >
<br\>  > Yea but everyone can get the LSDJ Rom. He asked for Johans
<br\>permission
<br\>  > apparently and was turned down, and continues to sell anyways. If
<br\>you
<br\>  > would answer the questiosn about wether he gave you a LSDJ login,
<br\>i'd
<br\>  > feel alot better about the guy, but no one has comfirmed that he
<br\>  > actually does that.
<br\>  >
<br\>  > If atariage is cool with reselling and Paul is cool with someone
<br\>  > reselling stuff at a laughably high price Ill stop complaining
<br\>about
<br\>  > it here. Sorry for bothering.
<br\>  >
<br\>  > Peter
<br\>  >
<br\>  >
<br\>
<br\>  Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
I agree, modding or adding to a system takes time. Even if it is considered
<br\>easy, it is still time consuming. I used to mod pc cases when selling my old
<br\>systems.. Every time it was more trouble than tiny (tiny) money that was
<br\>made.  I think that pre-packaged units should sell for a bit more.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>From: synthcart@yahoogroups.com [mailto:synthcart@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
<br\>Of Paul Slocum
<br\>Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:06 PM
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Subject: Re: [synthcart] Re: Rip Off Douches
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Average working Atari 2600 w/ power supply on ebay shipped $35-$45
<br\>Synthcart shipped $29
<br\>2 Video touch pads off ebay shipped $16
<br\>
<br\>We're at $80-$90, then consider the time it takes to acquire the stuff,
<br\>to do the 1/4" audio-out modification, to test and clean everything,
<br\>print the overlays, pack up stuff to ship. $155 shipped seems pretty
<br\>reasonable to me. And from a musician's perspective, $155 for a
<br\>ready-to-go unique synth module with a video interface seems like a
<br\>reasonable deal too.
<br\>
<br\>I've put together packages like that for people before, and I wouldn't
<br\>do it for much less unless they were friends of mine. It's just too
<br\>much time and hassle.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>PeLeSwi wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>
<br\><mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>,
<br\>> "fun.email" <cpals2002@...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > reminds me of a country yrs ago where Microsoft would not ship to so
<br\>> > everyone was bootlegging...
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>> Yea but everyone can get the LSDJ Rom. He asked for Johans permission
<br\>> apparently and was turned down, and continues to sell anyways. If you
<br\>> would answer the questiosn about wether he gave you a LSDJ login, i'd
<br\>> feel alot better about the guy, but no one has comfirmed that he
<br\>> actually does that.
<br\>>
<br\>> If atariage is cool with reselling and Paul is cool with someone
<br\>> reselling stuff at a laughably high price Ill stop complaining about
<br\>> it here. Sorry for bothering.
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Subject:
Re: Cynthcart on PAL C64 quick & dirty hardware hack

Message:
<br\>
Hey,
<br\>Nice work, Ron. Thanks for sharing this. Much appreciated.
<br\>
<br\>I will have to give it a shot at some stage. Tuning the C64 for any sort of
<br\>ensemble playing
<br\>can be a real hassle.
<br\>
<br\>I haven't opened up my C64 in a while; was this a difficult hack to do?
<br\>
<br\>Regards,
<br\>Sebastian Tomczak
<br\>Adelaide, Australia
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "mdzron" <list.ron@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Note to you PAL C64 users still suffering from the NTSC tuning table problem
<br\>(as
<br\>> discussed here before):
<br\>>
<br\>> Today I swapped the quartz oscillator (Y1) of my Cynthcart dedicated C64
<br\>motherboard
<br\>> with a 14.31818MHz crystal (like the NTSC breadbox has) and changed the jumper
<br\>from
<br\>> PAL to NTSC. As a result the system clock is 1022727.143Hz and therefore
<br\>Cynthcart
<br\>> nicely in tune now.
<br\>>
<br\>> However since there's still working a PAL VIC inside, the video display is
<br\>little messed
<br\>up.
<br\>> On my oldschool PAL commodore CRT the image is sharp but black & white; my
<br\>> newschool chinese TFT-TV (supposed to accept both PAL & NTSC) doesn't display
<br\>> anything, though..
<br\>>
<br\>> If you, like me, are using Cynthcart on a headless C64 that's not supposed to
<br\>run
<br\>anything
<br\>> else this is an option till we (hopefully) get an update offering PAL-in-tune.
<br\>>
<br\>> Of course, if it's your only breadbox and you're gaming a lot or cant't do
<br\>without the on
<br\>> screen lightshow you don´t want to do the hack. Or at least hook up a switch
<br\>and leave
<br\>> the PAL crystal in there, too...
<br\>>
<br\>> happy soldering ;)
<br\>>
<br\>> ron.
<br\>>
<br\>> PS: CHIP MUSIC IS STILL ALIVE :D
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Whoo, didn't know yet Australia is PAL nation too ;)
<br\>
<br\>It's a piece of cake. see this mb pictures:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.commodore.ca/products/c64/commodore_64_motherboard_1982_1992.jpg
<br\>
<br\>At the upper board it's the grey rectangular thingy inside the VIC cage, at the
<br\>other board
<br\>it's the shiny silver with the soldered wire blob - labelled "Y1".
<br\>
<br\>My only advice is about that solder-blob-wire isn't easy to desolder, for it's
<br\>going to a big
<br\>GND plate drawing away the heat so the solder dosn't melt very well. Instead I
<br\>was cutting
<br\>the wire and soldering a new one onto the remaining wire stump.
<br\>
<br\>If you'd like to go for a dual oscillator mod I think it's ok just to sandwich
<br\>both crystals and
<br\>install a switch to one of their joints.
<br\>
<br\>ron.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "sebastian_tomczak" <stomczak@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hey,
<br\>> Nice work, Ron. Thanks for sharing this. Much appreciated.
<br\>>
<br\>> I will have to give it a shot at some stage. Tuning the C64 for any sort of
<br\>ensemble
<br\>playing
<br\>> can be a real hassle.
<br\>>
<br\>> I haven't opened up my C64 in a while; was this a difficult hack to do?
<br\>>
<br\>> Regards,
<br\>> Sebastian Tomczak
<br\>> Adelaide, Australia
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "mdzron" <list.ron@> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Note to you PAL C64 users still suffering from the NTSC tuning table problem
<br\>(as
<br\>> > discussed here before):
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Today I swapped the quartz oscillator (Y1) of my Cynthcart dedicated C64
<br\>motherboard
<br\>> > with a 14.31818MHz crystal (like the NTSC breadbox has) and changed the
<br\>jumper
<br\>from
<br\>> > PAL to NTSC. As a result the system clock is 1022727.143Hz and therefore
<br\>Cynthcart
<br\>> > nicely in tune now.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > However since there's still working a PAL VIC inside, the video display is
<br\>little messed
<br\>> up.
<br\>> > On my oldschool PAL commodore CRT the image is sharp but black & white; my
<br\>> > newschool chinese TFT-TV (supposed to accept both PAL & NTSC) doesn't
<br\>display
<br\>> > anything, though..
<br\>> >
<br\>> > If you, like me, are using Cynthcart on a headless C64 that's not supposed
<br\>to run
<br\>> anything
<br\>> > else this is an option till we (hopefully) get an update offering
<br\>PAL-in-tune.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Of course, if it's your only breadbox and you're gaming a lot or cant't do
<br\>without the
<br\>on
<br\>> > screen lightshow you don´t want to do the hack. Or at least hook up a switch
<br\>and
<br\>leave
<br\>> > the PAL crystal in there, too...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > happy soldering ;)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > ron.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > PS: CHIP MUSIC IS STILL ALIVE :D
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
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<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Is the standby noise normal, or anyway to reduce it?  It's a hum
<br\>accompanied by faint sound waves, and it changes when toggling
<br\>settings. Otherwise clean on game carts. Worst in six switch than 4.
<br\>Thanks.
<br\>


Subject:
wanted feature: "video on with note" mode without the texts!

SubjectSrt:
wanted feature: "video on with note" mode without the texts!

Message:
<br\>
wouldn't it be cool to have only rave color patterns display when hitting a
<br\>button?
<br\>i may think of using these for live visuals when playing, but the texts at the
<br\>top don't give
<br\>this a chance.. can you make another video mode that doesn't have the texts but
<br\>has the ravy
<br\>visuals when playing?
<br\>


Subject:
Midnight screening @ the New Beverly JOYSTICKS!!!!

SubjectSrt:
Midnight screening @ the New Beverly JOYSTICKS!!!!

Message:
<br\>
Alright L.A./Orange County Atari-heads, if you're worth the weight of
<br\>your heavy sixer get your ass to the midnight screening @ the New
<br\>Beverly hosted by Phil Blankenship (tronics, iheartnoise.com, cherry
<br\>point & much more) of JOYSTICKS...those of you not familiar look it
<br\>up. Theme song is "Totally Awesome Video Games", tricycle riding
<br\>"punk" videogamer "KING VIDIOT", Joe Don Baker (original "walking
<br\>tall" lunkhead), stupid 80's T&A- VERY RAD INDEED!  The Director as
<br\>well as the actors who played the Vidiot and token "80's Fat Guy"
<br\>character will be doing a Q&A. Not sure how often this has been
<br\>screened, but it's my understanding that it never really has been
<br\>shown since the original theatrical release...
<br\>
<br\>$7
<br\>
<br\>New Beverly Cinema
<br\>7165 West Beverly Blvd.
<br\>Los Angeles, CA 90036
<br\>
<br\>one block west of La Brea
<br\>(323) 938-4038
<br\>
<br\>thx
<br\>chadwick
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Midnight screening @ the New Beverly JOYSTICKS!!!!

Message:
<br\>
Joysticks is awesome.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>chadwick_wd wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Alright L.A./Orange County Atari-heads, if you're worth the weight of
<br\>> your heavy sixer get your ass to the midnight screening @ the New
<br\>> Beverly hosted by Phil Blankenship (tronics, iheartnoise.com, cherry
<br\>> point & much more) of JOYSTICKS...those of you not familiar look it
<br\>> up. Theme song is "Totally Awesome Video Games", tricycle riding
<br\>> "punk" videogamer "KING VIDIOT", Joe Don Baker (original "walking
<br\>> tall" lunkhead), stupid 80's T&A- VERY RAD INDEED! The Director as
<br\>> well as the actors who played the Vidiot and token "80's Fat Guy"
<br\>> character will be doing a Q&A. Not sure how often this has been
<br\>> screened, but it's my understanding that it never really has been
<br\>> shown since the original theatrical release...
<br\>>
<br\>> $7
<br\>>
<br\>> New Beverly Cinema
<br\>> 7165 West Beverly Blvd.
<br\>> Los Angeles, CA 90036
<br\>>
<br\>> one block west of La Brea
<br\>> (323) 938-4038
<br\>>
<br\>> thx
<br\>> chadwick
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
Using a C64 Cartridge Expansion w/Cynthcart?

SubjectSrt:
Using a C64 Cartridge Expansion w/Cynthcart?

Message:
<br\>
I was digging through some of my commodore 64 items and found a Cartidge
<br\>Expansion Board with 4 slots. And I remembered someone mentioning once the use
<br\>of an expansion board with cynthcart.
<br\>
<br\>Does anyone now anything about this. If nothing else I guess I could just use it
<br\>to quickly switch between a couple of carts.
<br\>
<br\>-Jesse
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
They played it from a 35mm print recently at the Alamo Drafthouse in Austin with
<br\>one of
<br\>the cast members in attendance.
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Joysticks is awesome.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> chadwick_wd wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Alright L.A./Orange County Atari-heads, if you're worth the weight of
<br\>> > your heavy sixer get your ass to the midnight screening @ the New
<br\>> > Beverly hosted by Phil Blankenship (tronics, iheartnoise.com, cherry
<br\>> > point & much more) of JOYSTICKS...those of you not familiar look it
<br\>> > up. Theme song is "Totally Awesome Video Games", tricycle riding
<br\>> > "punk" videogamer "KING VIDIOT", Joe Don Baker (original "walking
<br\>> > tall" lunkhead), stupid 80's T&A- VERY RAD INDEED! The Director as
<br\>> > well as the actors who played the Vidiot and token "80's Fat Guy"
<br\>> > character will be doing a Q&A. Not sure how often this has been
<br\>> > screened, but it's my understanding that it never really has been
<br\>> > shown since the original theatrical release...
<br\>> >
<br\>> > $7
<br\>> >
<br\>> > New Beverly Cinema
<br\>> > 7165 West Beverly Blvd.
<br\>> > Los Angeles, CA 90036
<br\>> >
<br\>> > one block west of La Brea
<br\>> > (323) 938-4038
<br\>> >
<br\>> > thx
<br\>> > chadwick
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Using a C64 Cartridge Expansion w/Cynthcart?

Message:
<br\>
If you have a SID Symphony cartridge, you can use the cartridge expander
<br\>to use the Cynthcart and SID Symphony at the same time, which gives you
<br\>stereo chorus.  I use that setup for one of my C64s when I play live.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Jesse Smith wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> I was digging through some of my commodore 64 items and found a Cartidge
<br\>> Expansion Board with 4 slots. And I remembered someone mentioning once
<br\>> the use of an expansion board with cynthcart.
<br\>>
<br\>> Does anyone now anything about this. If nothing else I guess I could
<br\>> just use it to quickly switch between a couple of carts.
<br\>>
<br\>> -Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Would there be any advantage with using SID Symphony over SID to SID? Is SID
<br\>Symphony Just a way of adding an additional SID?
<br\>
<br\>-Jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message ----
<br\>From: Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com>
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:13:39 AM
<br\>Subject: Re: [synthcart] Using a C64 Cartridge Expansion w/Cynthcart?
<br\>
<br\>If you have a SID Symphony cartridge, you can use the cartridge expander
<br\>to use the Cynthcart and SID Symphony at the same time, which gives you
<br\>stereo chorus. I use that setup for one of my C64s when I play live.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Jesse Smith wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> I was digging through some of my commodore 64 items and found a Cartidge
<br\>> Expansion Board with 4 slots. And I remembered someone mentioning once
<br\>> the use of an expansion board with cynthcart.
<br\>>
<br\>> Does anyone now anything about this. If nothing else I guess I could
<br\>> just use it to quickly switch between a couple of carts.
<br\>>
<br\>> -Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yes, it's just a way to add a second SID.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>Jesse Smith wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Would there be any advantage with using SID Symphony over SID to SID? Is
<br\>> SID Symphony Just a way of adding an additional SID?
<br\>>
<br\>> -Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>> ----- Original Message ----
<br\>> From: Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com <mailto:paul%40treewave.com>>
<br\>> To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synthcart%40yahoogroups.com>
<br\>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:13:39 AM
<br\>> Subject: Re: [synthcart] Using a C64 Cartridge Expansion w/Cynthcart?
<br\>>
<br\>> If you have a SID Symphony cartridge, you can use the cartridge expander
<br\>> to use the Cynthcart and SID Symphony at the same time, which gives you
<br\>> stereo chorus. I use that setup for one of my C64s when I play live.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> Jesse Smith wrote:
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > I was digging through some of my commodore 64 items and found a Cartidge
<br\>>  > Expansion Board with 4 slots. And I remembered someone mentioning once
<br\>>  > the use of an expansion board with cynthcart.
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > Does anyone now anything about this. If nothing else I guess I could
<br\>>  > just use it to quickly switch between a couple of carts.
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  > -Jesse
<br\>>  >
<br\>>  >
<br\>>
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<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I don't own an ATARI anymore. Is there a way to use midi with
<br\>the Stella emulator? It would be great for routing to Synthcart with
<br\>a sequencer.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I'm not aware of any MIDI->Stella interface.  Stella is open-source
<br\>though -- somebody just needs to code it...
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>plastikanimal wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> I don't own an ATARI anymore. Is there a way to use midi with
<br\>> the Stella emulator? It would be great for routing to Synthcart
<br\>> with a sequencer.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I just need to say this...
<br\>
<br\>Paul Slocum = Awesome
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
OH well. I'll just have to get pay the eBay prices
<br\>then. thanks --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum
<br\><paul@...> wrote: > > I'm not aware of any MIDI->Stella
<br\>interface. Stella is open-source > though -- somebody just needs to
<br\>code it... > > -paul > > plastikanimal
<br\>wrote: > > > > > > I don't own an ATARI anymore. Is
<br\>there a way to use midi with > > the Stella emulator? It
<br\>would be great for routing to Synthcart > > with
<br\>a sequencer. > > > > >
<br\>


Subject:
Secret Society of the Sonic Six this Thursday Nov 8th @ El Cid in L.A.

SubjectSrt:
Secret Society of the Sonic Six this Thursday Nov 8th @ El Cid in L.A.

Message:
<br\>
This Thursday  (NOV 8th) the Secret Society of the Sonic Six
<br\><http://www.sssonicsix.com/>  will be performing as part of the Victory
<br\>Variety Hour Burlesque show @ El Cid...this means Synthcart & Burlesque
<br\>queens sharing the stage.... please check out
<br\>http://www.itsachick.com/vvh.html <http://www.itsachick.com/vvh.html>
<br\>for all the details...
<br\>
<br\>(((6)))
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ha, thanks.
<br\>
<br\>For those of you waiting for the Cynthcart PAL tuning fix, sorry it's
<br\>taking so long.  I had a deadline on another project go from 3 months to
<br\>3 weeks, so I'm pretty busy with that at the moment.  I'm going to try
<br\>to get to the Cynthcart next weekend tho.
<br\>
<br\>I'm writing my own sample-based music software in C right now, which is
<br\>pretty interesting.  I'll be releasing a new program for PCs soon.  This
<br\>one is a conceptual project and is not really a useful music tool, but I
<br\>may be releasing some PC music tools in the future based on this code...
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>blueboycurtis wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> I just need to say this...
<br\>>
<br\>> Paul Slocum = Awesome
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "blueboycurtis" <blueboycurtis@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I just need to say this...
<br\>>
<br\>> Paul Slocum = Awesome
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I must concur.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yeah, so for a little fun yesterday i hooked up one of my synthcarts to a really
<br\>simple circuit
<br\>in order to trigger notes. very basic at the moment, but obviously the idea
<br\>could be easily
<br\>extended to more complex control (which i will probably do over the weekend when
<br\>i have
<br\>time).
<br\>
<br\>anyway, see this simple example in action here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
<br\>v=6uBJKJaBAn4
<br\>
<br\>and more info here: http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2007/11/more-synthcart-
<br\>control_05.html
<br\>
<br\>regards,
<br\>
<br\>Sebastian Tomczak
<br\>Adelaide, Australia
<br\>


Subject:
Quick guide for MIDI keyboard -> synthcart?

SubjectSrt:
Quick guide for MIDI keyboard -> synthcart?

Message:
<br\>
Does anybody know if there is a quick guide to which MIDI notes (using
<br\>HighlyLiquid's Midi2600) on the keyboard trigger which responses in
<br\>Synthcart?  I could look up the MIDI-joystick interface notes and match
<br\>them up to the handy Quick Guide that was posted here (for the keypad),
<br\>but didn't know if this already existed before I spend the time to go
<br\>ahead and make it.
<br\>
<br\>If not, I'll post the reference card after I make it
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Quick guide for MIDI keyboard -> synthcart?

Message:
<br\>
All the info you want is right here
<br\>http://highlyliquid.com/kits/midi2600/midi-implementation.html
<br\>
<br\>-jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message ----
<br\>From: blueboycurtis <blueboycurtis@yahoo.com>
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 9:25:16 AM
<br\>Subject: [synthcart] Quick guide for MIDI keyboard -> synthcart?
<br\>
<br\>Does anybody know if there is a quick guide to which MIDI notes (using
<br\>HighlyLiquid' s Midi2600) on the keyboard trigger which responses in
<br\>Synthcart? I could look up the MIDI-joystick interface notes and match
<br\>them up to the handy Quick Guide that was posted here (for the keypad),
<br\>but didn't know if this already existed before I spend the time to go
<br\>ahead and make it.
<br\>
<br\>If not, I'll post the reference card after I make it
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
A total noob question for my first post here.
<br\>
<br\>I am looking for the schematics for modding a 2600 for stereo (rca) audio. Seems
<br\>many of
<br\>the links are dead that I have found.
<br\>
<br\>Is there a pre-made kit?
<br\>
<br\>I am looking for simple; easy and cheap :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>many thanks,
<br\>
<br\>Don
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/2600_stereo.html
<br\>
<br\>Its really only 3 wires and what ever connector type you want to use, either you
<br\>idea 2 RCA jacks or you could use a 1/4 in phono jack which works with most
<br\>mixer, amps and other music equipment.
<br\>
<br\>Good Luck,
<br\>-jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message ----
<br\>From: holyrodent <holyrodent@hotmail.com>
<br\>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 9:41:50 AM
<br\>Subject: [synthcart] Stereo Audio mod for 2600
<br\>
<br\>A total noob question for my first post here.
<br\>
<br\>I am looking for the schematics for modding a 2600 for stereo (rca) audio. Seems
<br\>many of
<br\>the links are dead that I have found.
<br\>
<br\>Is there a pre-made kit?
<br\>
<br\>I am looking for simple; easy and cheap :)
<br\>
<br\>many thanks,
<br\>
<br\>Don
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Also - note that if you are using a PAL Atari 2600, you will only be
<br\>able to get a mono output. Stereo is available only on the NTSC
<br\>version (?)
<br\>
<br\>(i think this is true -- at least, i have searched the TIA chip pins
<br\>on both of my 2600s and have only found a mono output)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "holyrodent" <holyrodent@...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> A total noob question for my first post here.
<br\>>
<br\>> I am looking for the schematics for modding a 2600 for stereo (rca)
<br\>audio. Seems many of
<br\>> the links are dead that I have found.
<br\>>
<br\>> Is there a pre-made kit?
<br\>>
<br\>> I am looking for simple; easy and cheap :)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> many thanks,
<br\>>
<br\>> Don
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Apologies for the cross-post, and a genuine appeal for list-mod
<br\>leniency. This should prove to be relevant (I hope), and I'll do my
<br\>best to keep it brief.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>8bitpeoples and The Tank announce:
<br\>
<br\>:: The BLIP FESTIVAL 2007 ::
<br\>:: www.blipfestival.org ::
<br\>Four days of low-bit computer music and visual art
<br\>Nearly 40 international chipmusicians, micromusicians, and
<br\>stylistically allied visualists
<br\>November 29 - December 02 • New York NY US
<br\>held at Eyebeam Atelier  |  540 W 21st Street, New York NY 10011
<br\>
<br\>[NEW YORK NY US] - Archaic game and home computer hardware is re-cast
<br\>into the role of musical instrument / synthesizer / audio workstation
<br\>in the Blip Festival 2007, a four-day, 37-artist event presented by
<br\>Manhattan art space The Tank and NYC artist collective 8bitpeoples.
<br\>
<br\>Taking place from Thursday 11 29 through Sunday 12 02 at Manhattan
<br\>space Eyebeam, the Blip Festival features nearly 40 musicians and
<br\>visualists from around the world adopting and repurposing familiar
<br\>but forgotten hardware in an exploration of its untapped creative
<br\>potential and unique aesthetic character.
<br\>
<br\>The lineup:
<br\>
<br\>AUDIO:
<br\>Anamanaguchi [US]
<br\>Bit Shifter [US]
<br\>Blasterhead [JP]
<br\>Bodenständig 2000 [DE]
<br\>Bokusatsu Shoujo Koubou [JP]
<br\>Bubblyfish [US]
<br\>Mark DeNardo [US]
<br\>The Depreciation Guild [US]
<br\>8GB [AR]
<br\>Firebrand Boy [UK]
<br\>Gijs Gieskes [NL]
<br\>Glomag [US]
<br\>gwEm and Counter Reset [UK]
<br\>Hally [JP]
<br\>Huoratron [FI]
<br\>Lo-bat. [BE]
<br\>Loud Objects [US]
<br\>Alex Mauer [US]
<br\>minusbaby [US]
<br\>NrGiGa [IT]
<br\>Nullsleep [US]
<br\>Paza [SE]
<br\>Postal_m@rket [IT]
<br\>Rugar [SE]
<br\>Sabrepulse [UK]
<br\>Saskrotch [US]
<br\>Markus Schrodt [AT]
<br\>6955 [JP]
<br\>Tree Wave [US]
<br\>Virt [US]
<br\>Neil Voss [US]
<br\>Yes, Robot [ES]
<br\>
<br\>VIDEO:
<br\>kiken.corporation [AR]
<br\>No Carrier [US]
<br\>noteNdo [US]
<br\>Otro [FR]
<br\>Voltage Controlled [US]
<br\>
<br\>Plus daytime workshops and screenings to be posted shortly.
<br\>Check http://www.blipfestival.org/ for full schedule and for tickets
<br\>
<br\>For those needing a taste of what to expect -- you may want to check
<br\>out this teaser for the _Blip Festival 2006: The Videos_ DVD being
<br\>released at this year's festival. I think you'll find it eliminates
<br\>fatigue and enlivens the blood.
<br\>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcRAPOVxxo
<br\>
<br\>Last.fm users may want to formally establish their intention to
<br\>attend at
<br\>http://www.last.fm/event/393096
<br\>
<br\>and Upcoming.yahoo.com users are invited to do the same at
<br\>http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/316390/
<br\>
<br\>Please help spread the word, and we hope to see you there this year.
<br\>
<br\>Josh
<br\>Bit Shifter
<br\>http://bit.shifter.net/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://www.thetanknyc.org/
<br\>http://www.8bitpeoples.com/
<br\>http://www.eyebeam.org/
<br\>
<br\>http://www.blipfestival.org/
<br\>


Subject:
CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD _ COMPILATION _ ONLINE NOW!

SubjectSrt:
CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD _ COMPILATION _ ONLINE NOW!

Message:
<br\>
New Release in gainlad netlabel:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.gainlad.com
<br\>
<br\>k9d, gijs gieskes, overthruster, bud melvin, autocide, tb, jellica, neotericz,
<br\>butchre
<br\>sleve, flashbob, nestroyer, cornbeast, enviromental sound collapse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>---
<br\>and more lame words for your personal dirty enjoyment ;)
<br\>
<br\>In september 30, 2007 Ignat wrote a manifesto, and posted it
<br\>both on micromusic.net and lsdj, synthcart, nanoloop yahoo mail groups.
<br\>
<br\>Diferent reactions to that words spreaded like fire fast through
<br\>the internet, reaching every point of the planet.
<br\>The entire chiptune and lo-fi / 8-bit comunity was in panic.
<br\>
<br\>The next days ignat, nitro2k and a few others showed the same idea
<br\>in parallel space times: to start a compilation based in the controversial
<br\>manifesto.
<br\>
<br\>This is the 1st chip music is dead POST
<br\>CHIPTUNE/CHIPSTYLE/CHIPMUSIC/NEDCORE/8-BIT/MICROMUSIC
<br\>Compilation. POST MORTEM MUSIC GENDER
<br\>
<br\>The new breed is here. New times are coming. This is the strenght of the new
<br\>race.
<br\>we are the new new new nu punks post apocaliptic geeky outsider chipsters.
<br\>
<br\>We laugh on Malcom McLaren words. We Killed Andy Whorehole.
<br\>
<br\>new rave is wacky. electroclash is our bitchy mongoloid aunt.
<br\>
<br\>we are here to selout. to reach the stars, to spread the burned chip word.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>.
<br\>
<br\>.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>words by ignat. all tracks submitted by Irony and Mockery.
<br\>the autohrs of the pieces are not responsible in any kind for this lame wording.
<br\>enjoy the music. love and meditation.
<br\>
<br\>---------------------------------------------------------
<br\>
<br\>The Manifesto manifestista:
<br\>
<br\>We reached the point that some of us had to be fearing of
<br\>
<br\>VSTi and difussion started to become our enemies,
<br\>cloning of ideals started mutation and blending
<br\>
<br\>house and pop music slowly started to leech our sounds,
<br\>as well as rock music did. Mainstream is in the end of the tunnel...
<br\>
<br\>the end seem to be at sight.
<br\>so, I want to conclude my short words saying:
<br\>
<br\>LET US DESTROY 8-BIT and CHIPTUNE,
<br\>BEFORE MAINSTREAM START TO CLON US and replace our beings with pre-programmed
<br\>clowns.
<br\>
<br\>LETS SAY THIS MUSIC SUCKS, IT'S ALREADY SELL OUT,
<br\>TONGUE IN CHEEK, LAME AND STUPID. It is noisy and nervous.
<br\>It's a commercial fake! It's just nintendo and big companies propaganda!
<br\>
<br\>IT IS ALREADY DEAD.
<br\>
<br\>just some weird ideas...
<br\>
<br\>the end is coming. we are doomed. Media will eat us and transform into SHIT.
<br\>
<br\>thanks for reading. Love. Ignat/neotericz
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD +
<br\>
<br\>LONG LIVE CHIP MUSIC.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>______________________________________________
<br\>¿Chef por primera vez?
<br\>Sé un mejor Cocinillas.
<br\>http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome
<br\>


Subject:
Re: CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD _ COMPILATION _ ONLINE NOW!

Message:
<br\>
your links are also dead...
<br\>
<br\>m <quiebre@yahoo.com> wrote:          New Release in gainlad netlabel:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.gainlad.com
<br\>
<br\>k9d, gijs gieskes, overthruster, bud melvin, autocide, tb, jellica, neotericz,
<br\>butchre
<br\>sleve, flashbob, nestroyer, cornbeast, enviromental sound collapse
<br\>
<br\>---
<br\>and more lame words for your personal dirty enjoyment ;)
<br\>
<br\>In september 30, 2007 Ignat wrote a manifesto, and posted it
<br\>both on micromusic.net and lsdj, synthcart, nanoloop yahoo mail groups.
<br\>
<br\>Diferent reactions to that words spreaded like fire fast through
<br\>the internet, reaching every point of the planet.
<br\>The entire chiptune and lo-fi / 8-bit comunity was in panic.
<br\>
<br\>The next days ignat, nitro2k and a few others showed the same idea
<br\>in parallel space times: to start a compilation based in the controversial
<br\>manifesto.
<br\>
<br\>This is the 1st chip music is dead POST
<br\>CHIPTUNE/CHIPSTYLE/CHIPMUSIC/NEDCORE/8-BIT/MICROMUSIC
<br\>Compilation. POST MORTEM MUSIC GENDER
<br\>
<br\>The new breed is here. New times are coming. This is the strenght of the new
<br\>race.
<br\>we are the new new new nu punks post apocaliptic geeky outsider chipsters.
<br\>
<br\>We laugh on Malcom McLaren words. We Killed Andy Whorehole.
<br\>
<br\>new rave is wacky. electroclash is our bitchy mongoloid aunt.
<br\>
<br\>we are here to selout. to reach the stars, to spread the burned chip word.
<br\>
<br\>.
<br\>
<br\>.
<br\>
<br\>words by ignat. all tracks submitted by Irony and Mockery.
<br\>the autohrs of the pieces are not responsible in any kind for this lame wording.
<br\>enjoy the music. love and meditation.
<br\>
<br\>---------------------------------------------------------
<br\>
<br\>The Manifesto manifestista:
<br\>
<br\>We reached the point that some of us had to be fearing of
<br\>
<br\>VSTi and difussion started to become our enemies,
<br\>cloning of ideals started mutation and blending
<br\>
<br\>house and pop music slowly started to leech our sounds,
<br\>as well as rock music did. Mainstream is in the end of the tunnel...
<br\>
<br\>the end seem to be at sight.
<br\>so, I want to conclude my short words saying:
<br\>
<br\>LET US DESTROY 8-BIT and CHIPTUNE,
<br\>BEFORE MAINSTREAM START TO CLON US and replace our beings with pre-programmed
<br\>clowns.
<br\>
<br\>LETS SAY THIS MUSIC SUCKS, IT'S ALREADY SELL OUT,
<br\>TONGUE IN CHEEK, LAME AND STUPID. It is noisy and nervous.
<br\>It's a commercial fake! It's just nintendo and big companies propaganda!
<br\>
<br\>IT IS ALREADY DEAD.
<br\>
<br\>just some weird ideas...
<br\>
<br\>the end is coming. we are doomed. Media will eat us and transform into SHIT.
<br\>
<br\>thanks for reading. Love. Ignat/neotericz
<br\>
<br\>CHIP MUSIC IS DEAD +
<br\>
<br\>LONG LIVE CHIP MUSIC.
<br\>
<br\>______________________________________________
<br\>¿Chef por primera vez?
<br\>Sé un mejor Cocinillas.
<br\>http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
<br\>
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