# tblYgr_synthcart

Message:
<br\>
Hey guys:
<br\>
<br\>No messages yet? I finally got to playing with the synthcart
<br\>yesterday. I've had the cartridge for months, but couldn't get a
<br\>system until yesterday. It's pretty neat, but it's going to take a
<br\>while to master it. I'm excited about hooking it up to my FX unit. I
<br\>know it'll sound wicked on that. I've just finished making a little
<br\>album and plan on making the next one using the synthcart. It won't
<br\>be just the synthcart because it would be too hard to get any melodic
<br\>music out of it :)
<br\>
<br\>One question, how do I get the rom to play?
<br\>Also, the colour scheme for this yahoogroup is so tacky it's Atari :)
<br\>Great job!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> No messages yet? I finally got to playing with the synthcart
<br\>> yesterday. I've had the cartridge for months, but couldn't get a
<br\>> system until yesterday. It's pretty neat, but it's going to take a
<br\>> while to master it. I'm excited about hooking it up to my FX unit.
<br\>I
<br\>> know it'll sound wicked on that.
<br\>
<br\>I agree. I looking to hook it up to my dinky dod multi effects
<br\>processor
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> be just the synthcart because it would be too hard to get any
<br\>melodic
<br\>> music out of it :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Define Melody :)
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> One question, how do I get the rom to play?
<br\>
<br\>You need to find a emulator that emulates the keypads and determine
<br\>with computer keys work with it. I havent tried playing the ROM yet,
<br\>but I am intersted in editing the beats and stuff
<br\>
<br\>Cheers
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
holy sm*t this synthcart is so cool. i hooked it up to
<br\>my FX box unit thing and WOW!!! i'm selling my MC-505
<br\>so i can get a second atari system and run two
<br\>synthcarts. i've even got the synthcart to do the
<br\>melodic music i was talking about so everything's
<br\>great. however, i wish it could play semi-tones. i
<br\>find that the scale is limited to about one. i don't
<br\>think i can go back to playing the keyboards after
<br\>jamming on double touch pads. they're so much more fun
<br\>to play.
<br\>
<br\>oh one problem. when i run my atari into my computer,
<br\>it creates a lot of line noise. how are your systems?
<br\>is this because the cable and/or tv switch is old and
<br\>noisy?
<br\>
<br\>  --- Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\><kradlabs@yahoo.com> wrote: > > No messages yet? I
<br\>finally got to playing with the
<br\>> synthcart
<br\>> > yesterday. I've had the cartridge for months, but
<br\>> couldn't get a
<br\>> > system until yesterday. It's pretty neat, but it's
<br\>> going to take a
<br\>> > while to master it. I'm excited about hooking it
<br\>> up to my FX unit.
<br\>> I
<br\>> > know it'll sound wicked on that.
<br\>>
<br\>> I agree. I looking to hook it up to my dinky dod
<br\>> multi effects
<br\>> processor
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > be just the synthcart because it would be too hard
<br\>> to get any
<br\>> melodic
<br\>> > music out of it :)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Define Melody :)
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > One question, how do I get the rom to play?
<br\>>
<br\>> You need to find a emulator that emulates the
<br\>> keypads and determine
<br\>> with computer keys work with it. I havent tried
<br\>> playing the ROM yet,
<br\>> but I am intersted in editing the beats and stuff
<br\>>
<br\>> Cheers
<br\>> Peter
<br\>
<br\>______________________________________________________________________
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@y..., Souda <detribot@y...> wrote:
<br\>> holy sm*t this synthcart is so cool. i hooked it up to
<br\>> my FX box unit thing and WOW!!! i'm selling my MC-505
<br\>> so i can get a second atari system and run two
<br\>> synthcarts. i've even got the synthcart to do the
<br\>> melodic music i was talking about so everything's
<br\>> great. however, i wish it could play semi-tones. i
<br\>> find that the scale is limited to about one. i don't
<br\>> think i can go back to playing the keyboards after
<br\>> jamming on double touch pads. they're so much more fun
<br\>> to play.
<br\>>
<br\>> oh one problem. when i run my atari into my computer,
<br\>> it creates a lot of line noise. how are your systems?
<br\>> is this because the cable and/or tv switch is old and
<br\>> noisy?
<br\>>
<br\>>  --- Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\>> <kradlabs@y...> wrote: > > No messages yet? I
<br\>> finally got to playing with the
<br\>> > synthcart
<br\>> > > yesterday. I've had the cartridge for months, but
<br\>> > couldn't get a
<br\>> > > system until yesterday. It's pretty neat, but it's
<br\>> > going to take a
<br\>> > > while to master it. I'm excited about hooking it
<br\>> > up to my FX unit.
<br\>> > I
<br\>> > > know it'll sound wicked on that.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I agree. I looking to hook it up to my dinky dod
<br\>> > multi effects
<br\>> > processor
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > be just the synthcart because it would be too hard
<br\>> > to get any
<br\>> > melodic
<br\>> > > music out of it :)
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Define Melody :)
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > One question, how do I get the rom to play?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > You need to find a emulator that emulates the
<br\>> > keypads and determine
<br\>> > with computer keys work with it. I havent tried
<br\>> > playing the ROM yet,
<br\>> > but I am intersted in editing the beats and stuff
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Cheers
<br\>> > Peter
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>______________________________________________________________________
<br\>
<br\>> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I asked this already, but nobody answered.
<br\>
<br\>When I run my atari to my computer, i get a lot of line noise. i was
<br\>wondering if any of you get the same problem. any suggestions to fix
<br\>it?
<br\>
<br\>soodz
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@y..., "Detribot" <detribot@y...> wrote:
<br\>> I asked this already, but nobody answered.
<br\>>
<br\>> When I run my atari to my computer, i get a lot of line noise. i
<br\>was
<br\>> wondering if any of you get the same problem. any suggestions to
<br\>fix
<br\>> it?
<br\>>
<br\>> soodz
<br\>
<br\>Are you using the rf modulator? There are many dir4ect audio mods out
<br\>there on the net, it would probaly upgrade your sound quality
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i am using an rf modulator. i want to do a search for the direct
<br\>audio mod, but i don't know the exact name. what is it???
<br\>
<br\>soodz
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>> --- In synthcart@y..., "Detribot" <detribot@y...> wrote:
<br\>> > I asked this already, but nobody answered.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > When I run my atari to my computer, i get a lot of line noise. i
<br\>> was
<br\>> > wondering if any of you get the same problem. any suggestions to
<br\>> fix
<br\>> > it?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > soodz
<br\>>
<br\>> Are you using the rf modulator? There are many dir4ect audio mods
<br\>out
<br\>> there on the net, it would probaly upgrade your sound quality
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Detribot <detribot@y...>"
<br\><detribot@y...> wrote:
<br\>> i am using an rf modulator. i want to do a search for the direct
<br\>> audio mod, but i don't know the exact name. what is it???
<br\>>
<br\>> soodz
<br\>>  it would probaly upgrade your sound quality
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Try this one:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/HowToMAIN.htm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've started on my atari synth (sorta). Basically it has three
<br\>segments:
<br\>
<br\>A) reconfigured hardware interface for the Video Touch Pad:
<br\>
<br\>I want to make two kinds of controllers. First I want to hardwire the
<br\>switches onto a toy keyboard style controller across two octaves for
<br\>better playability. The other one I want is a foot controller to
<br\>trigger drum settings on the synthcart while paying guitar or
<br\>something like that.
<br\>
<br\>B) Enclosing the atari jr into a smaller case with 1/4' guitar cable
<br\>style jacks.
<br\>
<br\>c)Some kind of switch on the inside to install effects devices and
<br\>bypass them straight out if needed. I have an Alesis wedge which
<br\>would be good for this, plus its delay is midi sync able.
<br\>
<br\>The controllers would need to be switchable between the controller
<br\>for control 2 and the foot switch. It doesn't seem that hard to do
<br\>especially with all the schematics available on the web.
<br\>
<br\>Unfortunatly I am about to make a big move, so I think I will just
<br\>collect the info and make it available on this site so other people
<br\>can work one themselves if they want to....
<br\>
<br\>more info soon..
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Huge flood of new folks today!
<br\>
<br\>Welcome.
<br\>
<br\>My input in the group has been tres weak, but I still want to
<br\>brainstrom ideas even if I cant work on things too actively right
<br\>now....
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I am messin around now with lsdj and I use to save games on a
<br\>megamemory cart. It copies sram and and lets you load them via a menu
<br\>system. It appears to operate independantly of the gameboy hardware.
<br\>Now I know that the vcs doesn't have any ability to save games, but
<br\>is it possible to have something that will load a game state and
<br\>reinput the info on a program?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Say you have a table with the following data
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>x x x
<br\>x x x
<br\>x x x
<br\>
<br\>Where X Is blank data. Could someone write a cart with flash ram that
<br\>scans the data state and makes a snap shot, then emulates the atari
<br\>controller inputs to reinsert the data?
<br\>
<br\>Kind of like when a midi device gets a sysex dump?
<br\>
<br\>This would allow you to have a template to create and save your own
<br\>drum loops and seqences
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Figured i would say hello to the handful of like-minded people who
<br\>may check this board from time to time.
<br\>i write and jam with the synthcart fairly often,im looking to build a
<br\>keyboard controller for it. i will also want to link the new
<br\>controller to a drum machine in a way that each drum sound will
<br\>trigger a different synthcart sound, thereby giving it some sequence
<br\>ability. im still trying to figure out the best way to do this. my
<br\>initial experiments using relays were iffy, so the quest continues.
<br\>Im open to suggestions if anyone thinks they can help.
<br\>thanks-
<br\>djdsl
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> keyboard controller for it. i will also want to link the new
<br\>> controller to a drum machine in a way that each drum sound will
<br\>> trigger a different synthcart sound, thereby giving it some
<br\>sequence
<br\>> ability. im still trying to figure out the best way to do this. my
<br\>> initial experiments using relays were iffy, so the quest continues.
<br\>> Im open to suggestions if anyone thinks they can help.
<br\>> thanks-
<br\>> djdsl
<br\>
<br\>Hey,
<br\>
<br\>My idea for the sync output would somekind of emulation of the
<br\>keyboard controllers. The atari scans the ports so if a box could
<br\>output the same kind of signal as a pressed keypad does then you
<br\>could control it remotely. If you you a chip emulating the circuit
<br\>controlls I assume it would be possible to take it a step further and
<br\>make it midi controlable. It would work kinda like this ...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://www.paia.com/midibrn.htm
<br\>
<br\>could control voltages be tweaked to work on the kyboard interface?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atari7800.org/schematics/keypadschematic.gif
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>The atari scans the ports so if a box could
<br\>> output the same kind of signal as a pressed keypad does then you
<br\>> could control it remotely.
<br\>
<br\>That's correct. As long as the two contact points that make up each
<br\>button on the keypad are closed, the sound will play.
<br\>
<br\>>If you you a chip emulating the circuit
<br\>> controlls I assume it would be possible to take it a step further
<br\>> and make it midi controlable.
<br\>
<br\>I don't much about using chips in this way, but if you were going to
<br\>go to the trouble of programing one to emulate the control arrays of
<br\>a keypad set, then midi implementation would be a nice feature, and
<br\>if done right, it would work flawlessly.
<br\>
<br\>>It would work kinda like this ...
<br\>> http://www.paia.com/midibrn.htm
<br\>
<br\>sortof.. you'd want the opposite results though.. like this:
<br\>http://www.paia.com/midi2cv.htm
<br\>
<br\>Where Midi info is translated into control voltages that can be used
<br\>to close switches. My friend has this PAIA device.. i'll ask to
<br\>borrow it to test this out. It should work fine, to control up to 8
<br\>buttons, but its not very cost effective for this project.
<br\>
<br\>Ultimately id like a cheap circuit that requires no extra power, or
<br\>at most, to run off the atari's 9V power supply. And, without the use
<br\>of chips configured to read midi and output CV, the next best option
<br\>is to go all analog. So, thats where im still experimenting.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
If any synthcart users have one of the following synth programs and
<br\>would like to help me test something out please give me an email. All
<br\>my atari equipment is in storage so i don't have access to it...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Big Tick Angelina, Rainbow and Rhino softsynths
<br\>E-mu Morpheus
<br\>E-mu Proteus series
<br\>Ensoniq EPS/EPS16/ASR10
<br\>Ensoniq VFX
<br\>Fluidsynth (iiwusynth) software synthesizer
<br\>Korg OASYS PCI soundcard (and softsynths supporting its .tun tuning
<br\>textfile)
<br\>LinPlug CronoX softsynth
<br\>Max Magic Microtuner for Max/MSP and Pluggo softsynths
<br\>MIDI Tuning Standard (both bulk tuning dump and single-note tuning
<br\>change), supported in Audio Compositor softsynth, E-mu: Proteus 3,
<br\>UltraProteus, Audity/Proteus 1000 and 2000 series, Virtuoso 2000,
<br\>Proteus FX, Orbit, Planet Phatt, B3, Carnaval, Ensoniq: ASR-X, MR
<br\>Rack, MR-61, MR-76, ZR-76, Turtle Beach: Multisound, Monterey, Maui,
<br\>Tropez, Rio
<br\>MIDI to CSound
<br\>Native Instruments Pro-52 and FM7
<br\>Roland GS & JV/XP families
<br\>VAZ Plus, 2001 and Modular softsynths
<br\>Yamaha DX7II/TX802
<br\>Yamaha SY77/TG77/SY99/VL-1/VL-7
<br\>Yamaha TX81Z/DX11/DX27/DX100/V50 (both octave and full keyboard bulk
<br\>data)
<br\>Yamaha XG family
<br\>
<br\>Tia!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
what type of experiment did you have in mind?
<br\>i think i still have an early version of Vaz.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>From: "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm" <kradlabs@yahoo.com>
<br\>>Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>Subject: [synthcart] Volunteers wanted...
<br\>>Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 03:23:31 -0000
<br\>>
<br\>>If any synthcart users have one of the following synth programs and
<br\>>would like to help me test something out please give me an email. All
<br\>>my atari equipment is in storage so i don't have access to it...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>Big Tick Angelina, Rainbow and Rhino softsynths
<br\>>E-mu Morpheus
<br\>>E-mu Proteus series
<br\>>Ensoniq EPS/EPS16/ASR10
<br\>>Ensoniq VFX
<br\>>Fluidsynth (iiwusynth) software synthesizer
<br\>>Korg OASYS PCI soundcard (and softsynths supporting its .tun tuning
<br\>>textfile)
<br\>>LinPlug CronoX softsynth
<br\>>Max Magic Microtuner for Max/MSP and Pluggo softsynths
<br\>>MIDI Tuning Standard (both bulk tuning dump and single-note tuning
<br\>>change), supported in Audio Compositor softsynth, E-mu: Proteus 3,
<br\>>UltraProteus, Audity/Proteus 1000 and 2000 series, Virtuoso 2000,
<br\>>Proteus FX, Orbit, Planet Phatt, B3, Carnaval, Ensoniq: ASR-X, MR
<br\>>Rack, MR-61, MR-76, ZR-76, Turtle Beach: Multisound, Monterey, Maui,
<br\>>Tropez, Rio
<br\>>MIDI to CSound
<br\>>Native Instruments Pro-52 and FM7
<br\>>Roland GS & JV/XP families
<br\>>VAZ Plus, 2001 and Modular softsynths
<br\>>Yamaha DX7II/TX802
<br\>>Yamaha SY77/TG77/SY99/VL-1/VL-7
<br\>>Yamaha TX81Z/DX11/DX27/DX100/V50 (both octave and full keyboard bulk
<br\>>data)
<br\>>Yamaha XG family
<br\>>
<br\>>Tia!
<br\>>
<br\>
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--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "thom uliasz" <dsl_tru@h...> wrote:
<br\>> what type of experiment did you have in mind?
<br\>> i think i still have an early version of Vaz.
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>I have vaz too. My idea should work on that... here is an email I
<br\>sent another user....
<br\>
<br\>@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
<br\>Im working on this program called scala(
<br\>http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/) which lets do a
<br\>couple things...
<br\>
<br\>It lets you define custom tuning tables
<br\>Send them via sysex to midi synths
<br\>retunes midi files to be a in a certain scale
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I am going to set a tuning scale that is comaptible
<br\>with with the atari weird tuning scheme. This has a
<br\>bunch of cool applications
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Help musicians trying to use the synthcart in a band
<br\>situation
<br\>
<br\>Help game composers work on ideas in a more musical
<br\>format prior to coding in binary
<br\>
<br\>Converting exisitng midi songs to atari comatible
<br\>scheme for conversions and hacks
<br\>
<br\>setup a scheme for someone with the knowhow to create
<br\>a utililty to convert midi to dasm compatible code
<br\>
<br\>I dont have my synthcart handy But I think my math is
<br\>sound. I need end users who have these synths to
<br\>compare the tuning tables I send them against the
<br\>various insturments on the synthcart program. Im in
<br\>the middle of moving to nyc until like mid august and
<br\>i don't want to wait until then to work on this. I can
<br\>crunch away on my laptop now. So I guess the only
<br\>thing require of you would be to read your synth's
<br\>manual and figured out how it loads tuning tables (by
<br\>sysex or wahtever) and i will try to deliver to you a
<br\>working table that hopefully works.
<br\>\
<br\>
<br\>Vaz uses .tun files which are basically the same as scala .scl files.
<br\>
<br\>I want users who can a/b my math against their tunable devices
<br\>against my tuning tables. Let me know your favorite sound on
<br\>synthcart and I will work on that first.
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey cool, i like where this is going.
<br\>ill dip into the few synth programs i have to see if theyll be compatible.
<br\>im mainly a hardware synth guy though. but ill see what i can do.
<br\>btw.. for me, the square sound is the heaviest.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>Vaz uses .tun files which are basically the same as scala .scl files.
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
http://www.cis.rit.edu/~jerry/Software/pengo/
<br\>
<br\>Wouldnt want to lug to shows though...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So i've hit a philisophical roadblock. By what it says in the
<br\>synthcart manual and what it says in the music programming guide
<br\>don't jibe. I suspect that the manual is a little more inaccurate
<br\>than the programing guide. If I go by the manual, you will be able to
<br\>play scales across the keyboards and have c3 and c5 be the same, just
<br\>two octives apart. Or I can do it straight per the guide witch would
<br\>make the keys a weird 31 note scale where every note should be more
<br\>in tune with the synthcart and atari. The problem with this si that
<br\>you would basically have to to relearn the notes on the keyboard
<br\>cause the average scale on the atari looks like this:
<br\>
<br\>4 000 Square
<br\>------------------------------
<br\>  #  Note NTSC PAL  Driver Code
<br\>--  ---- ---  ---  -----------
<br\>  1   b8   -9  -23  [%00000001]
<br\>  2   e8  -11  -25  [%00000010]
<br\>  3   b7  -10  -23  [%00000011]
<br\>  4   g7   +4   -9  [%00000100]
<br\>  5   e7  -11  -25  [%00000101]
<br\>  7   b6   -9  -23  [%00000111]
<br\>  8   a6  -13  -27  [%00001000]
<br\>  9   g6   +4   -9  [%00001001]
<br\>11   e6  -11  -25  [%00001011]
<br\>14   c6   +2  -11  [%00001110]
<br\>15   b5  -10  -23  [%00001111]
<br\>17   a5  -14  -27  [%00010001]
<br\>19   g5   +4   -9  [%00010011]
<br\>23   e5  -12  -25  [%00010111]
<br\>26   d5  -16  -29  [%00011010]
<br\>29   c5   +2  -11  [%00011101]
<br\>31   b4   -9  -23  [%00011111]
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>So what sounds better accuracy or convience?
<br\>
<br\>We could have it both ways in time, but Im trying to focus on doing
<br\>it one way first.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>> So i've hit a philisophical roadblock. By what it says in the
<br\>> synthcart manual and what it says in the music programming guide
<br\>> don't jibe. I suspect that the manual is a little more inaccurate
<br\>> than the programing guide. If I go by the manual, you will be able
<br\>to
<br\>> play scales across the keyboards and have c3 and c5 be the same,
<br\>just
<br\>> two
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I've decided to go by the music guide. Scala allows to map specific
<br\>notes by midi note value so I think I will map the altered keys to
<br\>the proper note on the keyboard to prevent confusion.
<br\>
<br\>I will do it straight across though first to see how it works.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Does anyone know which note each keypad press is?
<br\>
<br\>ie 1 = c4 etc?
<br\>
<br\>i dont have a synthcart with me to figure it out right now
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
does anyone know if it is possible to circuit bend an atari or atari
<br\>carts? i know you can do it with nes games but i'm afraid to try it
<br\>on my system.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
At 5:59 PM +0000 11/20/03, likeallthelights wrote:
<br\>> does anyone know if it is possible to circuit bend an atari or
<br\>> atari carts?
<br\>
<br\>I'm pretty sure I won't have an answer for you anyway, but what do
<br\>you mean "circuit bend"?
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<br\>
> > does anyone know if it is possible to circuit bend an atari or
<br\>> > atari carts?
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm pretty sure I won't have an answer for you anyway, but what do
<br\>> you mean "circuit bend"?
<br\>
<br\>     Hiya Russ!  You missed a good party over at Sean's BTW
<br\>
<br\>     "Circuit Bending" is this sort of underground music thing where
<br\>basically you short out kids musical toys to create new and weird sounds.
<br\>Favorite targets are Speak & Spell's and Casio SK-1 samplers.  The sounds
<br\>they make are embraced by folks in the ambient/noise music crowd, but also
<br\>by anyone into electronic weirdness.  Some of the people who are really into
<br\>it will modify these old toys with switches and extra knobs and stuff -
<br\>there's something really cool about an innocent children's toy bristling
<br\>with military grade switches belching out some of the most evil sounds
<br\>you've ever heard.
<br\>
<br\>     So the question is whether you can go into a 2600 and add in a few
<br\>switches and resistors to randomize the audio output.  I don't know, but I'm
<br\>pretty sure I remember someone trying it without much success.  I know that
<br\>a couple people have tried to circuit bend NES consoles, but with little
<br\>success.  Seems that you get similar results by popping in a Game Genie and
<br\>just entering random codes.
<br\>
<br\>     In a way, Russ' "frying" thing embraces the methodology and aesthetic
<br\>goals if circuit bending... if that helps.
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
At 11:33 PM -0600 11/21/03, Bohus Blahut wrote:
<br\>> Hiya Russ!  You missed a good party over at Sean's BTW
<br\>
<br\>Yeah, I know.  I made up for it by being at Oktoberfest.  :-p
<br\>
<br\>> "Circuit Bending" is this sort of underground music thing where
<br\>> basically you short out kids musical toys to create new and weird
<br\>> sounds.  Favorite targets are Speak & Spell's and Casio SK-1
<br\>> samplers.
<br\>
<br\>Ah, okay.  I've actually seen "circuit bent" Speak N Spells up for
<br\>auction on eBay.  I thought that's what the guy was getting at, but
<br\>was not sure.
<br\>
<br\>> So the question is whether you can go into a 2600 and add in a few
<br\>> switches and resistors to randomize the audio output.
<br\>
<br\>Hmm...  I don't have a good answer for that, but it's putting out an
<br\>audio system for TV, so if you can bend said audio by adding filters
<br\>and what not, the answer is probably yes.  Otherwise, hmm, dunno...
<br\>I'm not sure how the 2600 produces its sounds in the first place.
<br\>
<br\>Paul, where are you?  :-)
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Message:
<br\>
> Ah, okay.  I've actually seen "circuit bent" Speak N Spells up for
<br\>> auction on eBay.  I thought that's what the guy was getting at, but
<br\>> was not sure.
<br\>
<br\>     Seems like a good way to make acouple of bucks for adding $5 worth of
<br\>hardware to a 50 cent Speak & Spell, eh?  :)
<br\>
<br\>> Paul, where are you?  :-)
<br\>
<br\>     Paul is playing a show tonight with the Atari Synthcart, C64 Cynthcart,
<br\>his printersynth and an old 286.  Have you guys checked out his music
<br\>website?  it's www.treewave.com , he and his girlfriend Lauren have a number
<br\>of gigs coming up.  For this performance he told me that he hacked up Combat
<br\>so that it plays one of their songs while allowing someone from the audience
<br\>to actually play the game!  How cool is that?
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey guys.  Two circuit bent Atari 2600 projects I know of:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atari-noise.com/
<br\>
<br\>http://www.geocities.com/Foxglove_9/kom.gif
<br\>
<br\>Here's Reed Ghazala's homepage, the artist that came up with the idea
<br\>of circuit bending.  Since he started doing circuit bent pieces, the
<br\>idea really caught on and a lot of people do it now.  You can usually
<br\>find quite a few circuit bent items for sale on ebay.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.anti-theory.com/mainpage/
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
At 7:11 PM +0000 11/23/03, smart_putrol wrote:
<br\>>Hey guys.  Two circuit bent Atari 2600 projects I know of:
<br\>>
<br\>>http://www.atari-noise.com/
<br\>>http://www.geocities.com/Foxglove_9/kom.gif
<br\>
<br\>Ack!  I've seen both of those before, but couldn't think of them.
<br\>
<br\>There's a "similar" project, but I don't think it's circuit bent:
<br\>http://www.manipulate.net/skan/noizspike.html
<br\>
<br\>>Here's Reed Ghazala's homepage, the artist that came up with the idea
<br\>>of circuit bending. [...]
<br\>>http://www.anti-theory.com/mainpage/
<br\>
<br\>Thanks Paul!
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Message:
<br\>
I like the Foxglove project, but too bad that the Atari is there more or
<br\>less for looks (and as a donor of switches).  Still cool though...
<br\>
<br\>> There's a "similar" project, but I don't think it's circuit bent:
<br\>> http://www.manipulate.net/skan/noizspike.html
<br\>
<br\>     Yeah, that's just rehousing an Atari... and man I cannot find a single
<br\>height rckmount enclosure so that I can do my own!
<br\>
<br\>-B
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yeah i'm working on rackmounting my 2600 to, the only problem i've
<br\>hit is cutting that slot for the synthcart to fit in, also i had
<br\>troubling taking audio out because the juncture that most people say
<br\>to solder doesn't work as well, i found a much better one and it
<br\>gives out way more volume and it sounds awesome
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> yeah i'm working on rackmounting my 2600 to, the only problem i've
<br\>> hit is cutting that slot for the synthcart to fit in, also i had
<br\>> troubling taking audio out because the juncture that most people
<br\>say
<br\>> to solder doesn't work as well, i found a much better one and it
<br\>> gives out way more volume and it sounds awesome
<br\>
<br\>I've had the best luck using light sixer models for audio-out mods.
<br\>I've tried a couple of Jr's but I always get a lot of hum.
<br\>
<br\>Where did you tap the audio?  Closer to the TIA?
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yeah it was closer to the tia because when i tried the spot everyone
<br\>else said it was really quiet and noisy so i just poked around and
<br\>found a spot that has an unbelievable amount of gain, i need to put a
<br\>volume knob on it it's so loud.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> yeah it was closer to the tia because when i tried the spot everyone
<br\>> else said it was really quiet and noisy so i just poked around and
<br\>> found a spot that has an unbelievable amount of gain, i need to put a
<br\>> volume knob on it it's so loud.
<br\>
<br\>     Awesome.  Can you post scans or anything?  Thanks!
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
yeah i'm a little busy but in the next few days i'll open it up again
<br\>and figure out exactly where i soldered it, i did it on a four switch
<br\>so it may be different, i don't really know.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've done the audio portion of the 6-switch mod on Ben's page twice,
<br\>and both times I got a really strong signal with almost no noise.
<br\>When I plug the audio output directly into my soundcard, it always
<br\>comes close to zero without crossing.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/HowToMAIN.htm
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>BTW: I finally posted info about this group on the Synthcart page.
<br\>Don't know why I didn't do this sooner!  There are around 200
<br\>Synthcarts in circulation now, so hopefully we'll get more members.
<br\>I noticed a few new people have joined now.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> BTW: I finally posted info about this group on the Synthcart page.
<br\>> Don't know why I didn't do this sooner!  There are around 200
<br\>> Synthcarts in circulation now, so hopefully we'll get more
<br\>members.
<br\>> I noticed a few new people have joined now.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Yea it defiantly seems to have picked up:)
<br\>
<br\>I've never figured out it would be worth doing the stereo mod for use
<br\>with the synthcart cart... For example if I am running drum loop and
<br\>I do a cord on the other pad, it will put the other note in the other
<br\>channel? I the only use I could see for stereo for be indv processing
<br\>of the audio channels for external effects. I would like to mod my
<br\>light sixer with the vcsp mods and use the extra space for some kind
<br\>of small effects addons.
<br\>
<br\>PS: I would also like someone to make a .bin hacker than let you
<br\>program the ROM with you own riddums. thx bye!
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey i have been talking to a friend of mine about the synthcart and i
<br\>brought up that i wish i could do more with the drums other than the
<br\>awesome presets and he said i could make my own drum machine cart but
<br\>i would have to add more memory to my 2600? can anyone help?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've got plans for something like that, and I will probably start
<br\>work on it soon.  The Atari could only store 2-3 patterns in RAM, but
<br\>there is a guy working on a memory card for the 2600 which would
<br\>allow you to save off several patterns.
<br\>
<br\>You might check out my Atari 2600 sequencer kit if you haven't
<br\>already:
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/sequencer.html
<br\>
<br\>And I might look into making a .bin hacker to change the Synthcart
<br\>beats as Peter suggested.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Slocum" <paul-slocum@m...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> I've got plans for something like that, and I will probably start
<br\>> work on it soon.  The Atari could only store 2-3 patterns in RAM,
<br\>but
<br\>> there is a guy working on a memory card for the 2600 which would
<br\>> allow you to save off several patterns.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Ive been looking into making alternate keypad controllers for the
<br\>atari. I realized it would be fairly easy to make drum pads, but
<br\>since im not a drummer and synthcart doesn't currently have indivdual
<br\>drum sounds i havent really explored it...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Bohus Blahut" <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>     I like the Foxglove project, but too bad that the Atari is
<br\>there more or
<br\>> less for looks (and as a donor of switches).  Still cool though...
<br\>>
<br\>> > There's a "similar" project, but I don't think it's circuit bent:
<br\>> > http://www.manipulate.net/skan/noizspike.html
<br\>>
<br\>>     Yeah, that's just rehousing an Atari... and man I cannot find a
<br\>single
<br\>> height rckmount enclosure so that I can do my own!
<br\>>
<br\>> -B
<br\>
<br\>http://www.mouser.com/catalog/616/978.pdf
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
that would be awesome, even if you couldn't store drum patterns just
<br\>to be able to prgram them in real time. the memory upgrade would be
<br\>really nice too. would you be able to get more than the tempos on the
<br\>synthcart or are those the only tempos the 2600 can hit? and is the
<br\>collecovision cvdrum any good? i really don't like the way the bass
<br\>drum sounded in the demos. take care, eddie
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> that would be awesome, even if you couldn't store drum patterns
<br\>just
<br\>> to be able to prgram them in real time. the memory upgrade would
<br\>be
<br\>> really nice too.
<br\>
<br\>I also want it to be able to display the numeric data for the
<br\>patterns, so once you get a pattern you like, you can plug the
<br\>numbers into the sequencer kit (or perhaps eventually a Synthcart
<br\>BIN hacker).
<br\>
<br\>> would you be able to get more than the tempos on the
<br\>> synthcart or are those the only tempos the 2600 can hit?
<br\>
<br\>I have figured out ways to get more tempo values, and I also figured
<br\>out a way to get the tempos to fall on even numbers.  One of these
<br\>days I'm going to have to make a Synthcart Plus.
<br\>
<br\>> and is the
<br\>> collecovision cvdrum any good?
<br\>
<br\>I like the sounds, but the interface didn't work well for me.  The
<br\>same programmer is working on an Intellivision program now:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.videobrewery.com/showproject.php?project=44
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey all-
<br\>i just joined. shouts out to bohus and dsl, circuit benders unite!!!
<br\>
<br\>Paul-any progress on that front end GUI for the sequencer?
<br\>A .bin hacker would be fun, too. ( i need to get me a chip burner)
<br\>
<br\>And by the way, i played your thrust theme song on the radio last
<br\>nite. WXCI 91.7fm in danbury, ct. I'm taking over the Large With
<br\>Everything show for the next 2 tuesdays....Its a totaly open format
<br\>show. I did a whole "chip music" and circuit bent music set. Got
<br\>some good feedback.
<br\>
<br\>Oh, and i played with your dot matrix synth at the flux factory in
<br\>queens a few months ago. fun fun fun! That was a great exhibit.
<br\>They wanted dsl and i to do perform a circuit bent show for the
<br\>closing, but i had another gig that nite. arg!
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Slocum"
<br\>> You might check out my Atari 2600 sequencer kit if you haven't
<br\>> already:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://qotile.net/sequencer.html
<br\>>
<br\>> And I might look into making a .bin hacker to change the
<br\>Synthcart
<br\>> beats as Peter suggested.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> Paul-any progress on that front end GUI for the sequencer?
<br\>
<br\>The guy that's working on it is doing other projects right now, but
<br\>he said he's going to start working on it soon.  I told him that a
<br\>lot people had been asking about it.
<br\>
<br\>Last time I tried it, it was pretty far along.  Maybe I can get him
<br\>to go ahead and release a beta version.
<br\>
<br\>> And by the way, i played your thrust theme song on the radio last
<br\>> nite.
<br\>
<br\>Hehe cool!
<br\>
<br\>> Oh, and i played with your dot matrix synth at the flux factory in
<br\>> queens a few months ago. fun fun fun! That was a great exhibit.
<br\>> They wanted dsl and i to do perform a circuit bent show for the
<br\>> closing, but i had another gig that nite. arg!
<br\>
<br\>Jean told me you guys might play the closing.  That's too bad it
<br\>didn't work out.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
does anyone know how many cents all of the sounds are off from normal
<br\>tuned notes? i really want to work the synthcart sounds into the rest
<br\>of my band's music but the only sound that is close enough in tuning
<br\>is the lead. thnks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> This should get you started.
<br\>> Let me know about any errors you find:
<br\>
<br\>Crap, you'd think the message preview might look similar to what the
<br\>message will look like when it's posted.  I uploaded the tuning/note
<br\>guide to the files section for those of you looking at the garbled
<br\>HTML version.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Is there a emulator that does a pretty pitch accurate imitation of
<br\>Synthcart in Ntsc AND pal versions?
<br\>
<br\>One with wav write output, to record samples?
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
For those that don't have access to a good pitch shifter the tuning
<br\>limitaions of Synthcart have made it difficult for those who wish to
<br\>play along with non vcs sound sources. Many synthesizers allow for
<br\>user to define their own tuning tables. There is a freeware program
<br\>named Scala that allows you to create your own tuning files, can
<br\>change midi note data on the fly to be "in key", and tune midi
<br\>sequences to be in a certain pitch.
<br\>
<br\>I am just learning the program so I have hardwired the keys from
<br\>middle c on the keyboard to be note identical with the synthcart keys.
<br\>
<br\>so:
<br\>
<br\>C3(or middle c) = keypad controller 1
<br\>c#3 = 2
<br\>...
<br\>
<br\>Until D# at the end of the scale. At that point it becomes pretty
<br\>much useless. Unfortunatly I cannot test it with a real atari at the
<br\>moment, but it sounds pretty close in z26. Many synths can be tuned
<br\>in this manner. They include:
<br\>
<br\>AnaMark softsynth
<br\>Big Tick Angelina, Rainbow and Rhino softsynths
<br\>E-mu Morpheus
<br\>E-mu Proteus series
<br\>Ensoniq EPS/EPS16/ASR10
<br\>Ensoniq VFX
<br\>Fluidsynth (iiwusynth) software synthesizer
<br\>Korg OASYS PCI soundcard (and softsynths supporting its .tun tuning
<br\>textfile)
<br\>LinPlug CronoX softsynth
<br\>Max Magic Microtuner for Max/MSP and Pluggo softsynths
<br\>MIDI Tuning Standard (both bulk tuning dump and single-note tuning
<br\>change), supported in Timidity and Audio Compositor, E-mu: Proteus 3,
<br\>UltraProteus, Audity/Proteus 1000 and 2000 series, Virtuoso 2000,
<br\>Proteus FX, Orbit, Planet Phatt, B3, Carnaval, Ensoniq: ASR-X, MR
<br\>Rack, MR-61, MR-76, ZR-76, Turtle Beach: Multisound, Monterey, Maui,
<br\>Tropez, Rio
<br\>MIDI Tuning Standard 2-byte octave tuning dump
<br\>MIDI to CSound
<br\>Native Instruments Absynth 2.0, FM7 and Pro-52
<br\>Roland GS & JV/XP families
<br\>Timidity and Audio Compositor MIDI to audio renderers
<br\>VAZ Plus, 2001 and Modular softsynths
<br\>Yamaha DX7II/TX802
<br\>Yamaha SY77/TG77/SY99/VL-1/VL-7
<br\>Yamaha TX81Z/DX11/DX27/DX100/V50 (both octave and full keyboard bulk
<br\>data)
<br\>Yamaha XG family
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Additionally, the following can read the .scl file format natively:
<br\>
<br\>AlsaModularSynth by Matthias Nagorni
<br\>Chromatia Tuner (FMJ-Software)
<br\>Fractal Tune Smithy by Robert Walker
<br\>Harmonic Analyser, MidiTemper and PianoTuner by Fred Nachbaur
<br\>Li'l Miss' Scale Oven by Jeff Scott
<br\>Max Magic Microtuner by Victor Cerullo
<br\>MIDI Micro Tone (John Dunn & Algorithmic Arts)
<br\>MIDI Relay and Midiconv by Graham Breed
<br\>Orion Platinum and Orion Pro (Synapse Audio Software) (max. 12 tones)
<br\>Scale Browser Database by Guiseppi Mendoza
<br\>Scale by Albert Gräf
<br\>Tuner 6.3 by Jacob Breetvelt (12 tones)
<br\>ZynAddSubFX software synthesizer by Paul Nasca
<br\>z3ta+ Waveshaping synthesizer by rgc Audio
<br\>
<br\>I have included also tuning files for the vaz series of softsynths. A
<br\>very inexpensive softsynth that runs well without asio drivers, or a
<br\>host program.
<br\>
<br\>The files do make other synth tones have that "atari" sound. I think
<br\>alot of the appeal comes from its dissonance and quirky scales. I
<br\>hope others can try these out and tell me what they think. I should
<br\>have my synthcart available to test in a few weeks, but I thought I
<br\>should get this out there.
<br\>
<br\>for more info on Scala
<br\>
<br\>http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/
<br\>
<br\>and on VAZ
<br\>
<br\>http://www.software-technology.com/info/softech/vazindex.htm
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> Is there a emulator that does a pretty pitch accurate imitation of
<br\>> Synthcart in Ntsc AND pal versions?
<br\>>
<br\>> One with wav write output, to record samples?
<br\>
<br\>Z26 is definitely the most accurate for sound and everything else.
<br\>It's also very fast since it's written in assembly.  Although I don't
<br\>think it supports the ability to write WAV files, and sound emulation
<br\>is still not perfect.  In particular, the Buzz sound (15) does not
<br\>have the correct bit sequence for the waveform.  The emulator authors
<br\>are working on this.
<br\>
<br\>I don't use any of the other emulators, so I'm not sure which ones
<br\>(if any) have WAV support.  I just plug my 2600 into my sound card
<br\>when I need to record samples.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> think it supports the ability to write WAV files, and sound
<br\>emulation
<br\>> is still not perfect.  In particular, the Buzz sound (15) does not
<br\>> have the correct bit sequence for the waveform.  The emulator
<br\>authors
<br\>> are working on this.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I guess I could just rip the audio off the avi it can make. I just
<br\>wanted to run comparisons with my tuning tables to see if I got the
<br\>math right... it SOUNDS right, but if I layered them in a mono sound
<br\>file it would be obvious how close they are.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> I don't use any of the other emulators, so I'm not sure which ones
<br\>> (if any) have WAV support.  I just plug my 2600 into my sound card
<br\>> when I need to record samples.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I need to do the damn audio out mod on mine... damn!
<br\>
<br\>This weekend I gonna make an attempt at keymaping the four
<br\>synthcart "keys" across four octaves on a midi keyboard. If you have
<br\>multimbral mapping you can sounds compatible with the synth cart in
<br\>multiple modes.
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi everyone!
<br\>
<br\>i have a gig next week and i'd like to introduce some
<br\>atari 2600 soundz using the synthcard.
<br\>last week my 'junior' atari broke down :(probably
<br\>stella ic fucked up) ..  but i was lucky to find
<br\>another one on the local flee-market.
<br\>i bought it and fixed the audio out (like i did with
<br\>the first one) then plug it in.. and realized a
<br\>background noiz like this example shows:
<br\>http://www.dropdabomb.org/stu/noiz.mp3
<br\>
<br\>i'm sure it's not the ground.. i made lot's of
<br\>experiments today but just couldn't find the bug..
<br\>it's so evil the noiz won't stop!
<br\>maybe this error is known and someone can help?
<br\>i start to doubt that it's my ataris fault because the
<br\>games i run do work proper (without noiz) but could it
<br\>be that synthcard produces that noiz?
<br\>
<br\>appreciated is every support from you
<br\>i love synthcart.. but this noiz behing makes me
<br\>CRAZY!
<br\>
<br\>greez from the land of switzer
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Paul, I have an idea for an elaboration on your C64 cynthcart.
<br\>
<br\>I'd love to have a small device that has a midi-in port as well as
<br\>header connectors for 4+ (8? 16?) Commodore 64s.
<br\>
<br\>Then there would be a bunch of ribbon cables that go from the header
<br\>connectors to edge connectors to plug
<br\>into the 64's.
<br\>
<br\>Then perhaps the boot rom (27256?) for each 64 would be in this device
<br\>to simplify board layout.
<br\>
<br\>The main function of the device (aside from boot roms) is that it would
<br\>convert incoming midi signals into data to
<br\>be sent to each 64.  perhaps each 64 would be a multi-midi voice synth
<br\>(midi channels 1,2,3 goes to the three voices in '64 number 1), or
<br\>perhaps each 64 would be a multivoice synth, one for each midi channel
<br\>or something.  (midi channel 1 goes to '64 number 1)
<br\>
<br\>Then you could multiplex out midi channel 9 into the noise channel for
<br\>each of the 64's or something. (SIDs have 3 synth voices and one noise
<br\>voice, right? or am i thinking of another synth chip?)
<br\>
<br\>All of the configuration programming for the device, and waveforms
<br\>would be downloaded via SYSEX midi messages, although some waveforms
<br\>could be stored in the boot roms as well for quick midi playing without
<br\>a controlling computer to download the configuration from.
<br\>
<br\>and, as with the 2600 cart, you could have it display information or
<br\>graphics on the video for each 64 or something
<br\>
<br\>then of course, you could go the other way, and have the keyboards on
<br\>the 64's trigger midi messages or something.
<br\>
<br\>I've got a stack of 64's that I'd love to yank out of the plastics and
<br\>rack mount with a device such as described above.
<br\>
<br\>-j
<br\>
<br\>(and yes, i still have that C=64c for you that I need to send out.  I
<br\>suck.  I know.)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>Scott "Jerry" Lawrence
<br\>sdlpci@cis.rit.edu
<br\>xxx,xx,x,`x,`,x`x,xx,`,x`,x,,`x
<br\>NO CARRIER
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi,
<br\>
<br\>I'm sort of slow in the head.  Could someone explain to me the proper
<br\>way of building a c64 audio cable from a MIDI cable and rca cable.  I
<br\>mean, I understand the the idea, but the noise is really terrible and
<br\>I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong.  I have two c64's to
<br\>choose from and they both sound terrible with my homemade cable.
<br\>
<br\>Deafened in Dallas,
<br\>
<br\>Nathan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/holidaeinn0/a_trip_to_mars.mp3
<br\>i made this and played the lead sound on the synthcart, tell me what
<br\>you think
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Beach" <me@n...> wrote:
<br\>> Hi,
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm sort of slow in the head.  Could someone explain to me the
<br\>proper
<br\>> way of building a c64 audio cable from a MIDI cable and rca cable.
<br\>I
<br\>> mean, I understand the the idea, but the noise is really terrible
<br\>and
<br\>> I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong.  I have two c64's to
<br\>> choose from and they both sound terrible with my homemade cable.
<br\>>
<br\>> Deafened in Dallas,
<br\>>
<br\>> Nathan
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Did you connect ground the jack to ground of the cable?
<br\>
<br\>(I stole this from a random post on usenet)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>    v   ----- this is supposed to indicate the notch on the plug/bump
<br\>                    on the port
<br\>    3        1       1=composite luminance  2=ground ("earth" for
<br\>Brits :)
<br\>                     3=audio out   4=composite video   5=composite
<br\>chroms
<br\>    5        4
<br\>
<br\>         2
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>So cut the head off a midi cable.. use a multimeter to determine
<br\>where pin 3 terminates and connected that the rca tip. Connect pin 2
<br\>to ground. If you have the ability to solder the splice, it may make
<br\>the connection cleaner.
<br\>
<br\>I haven't tried this But I may fuck around with it tommorow... I need
<br\>a cable for my 800xl...
<br\>
<br\>they're supposed to be identical
<br\>
<br\>Peter:
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "likeallthelights"
<br\><iloverorygilmore@h...> wrote:
<br\>> http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/holidaeinn0/a_trip_to_mars.mp3
<br\>> i made this and played the lead sound on the synthcart, tell me
<br\>what
<br\>> you think
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I LOVE MISSON CONTROL TYPE SAMPLES
<br\>
<br\>That being said, it is a very good recording. I like how its very
<br\>anthemic...
<br\>
<br\>I would like to add a link in the group to sites for bands featuring
<br\>the synthcart. Please let me know if anyone has a homepage or links
<br\>to songs like this
<br\>
<br\>.PpEetteerr>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
put us on that list, we're called quick quick the bomb is ticking!
<br\>and our only site for right now is, http://www.stlpunk.com/b1.asp?
<br\>bandID=5645 and thanks for the review
<br\>-eddie
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis
<br\>Swimm" <kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>\> I LOVE MISSON CONTROL TYPE SAMPLES
<br\>
<br\>yeah, that  voice is very familiar.  Is that the moon landing?
<br\>It's probably been sampled as much as james brown.
<br\>
<br\>"The sky above is black. Absolutely black. I do not have any of the
<br\>constelations identified as of yet, over."
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
A new version of the Z26 emulator has been released, and the sound
<br\>emulation is finally starting to get really accurate.  Some of the bit
<br\>sequences (waveforms) were not being generated correctly until this new
<br\>release.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.whimsey.com/z26/z26.html
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Paul Slocum has contributed a 2600 song for the *8bitpeoples
<br\>christmas comp called "The 8bits of Christmas" check it out at:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.8bitpeoples.com/discography_gfx.php#8BP038
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I really like the 2600 project
<br\>
<br\>there is anyway I can get the  cartidge programmed some how?
<br\>
<br\>I dont want to spend money and time on Eprom programmer..
<br\>is anybody can sell me a pre programmed cartidge?
<br\>
<br\>I found this from the yahoo group:
<br\>http://www.atari7800.org/schematics/keypadschematic.gif
<br\>is thats all I need to build a pad controler?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I also found  the audio mod:
<br\>http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/HowToMAIN.htm
<br\>I imagine it all about the composite video  mod.
<br\>
<br\>from the synthcart overlay, the button mark * 0 # is bal left center
<br\>Right.
<br\>is it because it's stereo?
<br\>I look at the Composite mode again and figure out the audio output
<br\>but I have seen only 1 audio output?
<br\>
<br\>please confirme it's stereo or mono and how to do it..
<br\>if it's stereo, you can have 1 track on the right and the second
<br\>track on the left so having 2 tracks on a mixer... Mmmm  lots of fun
<br\>here.
<br\>
<br\>I dont really want to use a 2600 emulator but If I do give a try, is
<br\>all the key pads are available from the Pc kepboard?
<br\>
<br\>do you have a good emulator dos or windows suggestion?
<br\>
<br\>thank you verry much in advance.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I dont want to spend money and time on Eprom programmer..
<br\>>is anybody can sell me a pre programmed cartidge?
<br\>
<br\>Atariage.com sells them.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=101
<br\>
<br\>>I found this from the yahoo group:
<br\>>http://www.atari7800.org/schematics/keypadschematic.gif
<br\>>is thats all I need to build a pad controler?
<br\>
<br\>That should work.
<br\>
<br\>>from the synthcart overlay, the button mark * 0 # is bal left center
<br\>>Right.
<br\>>is it because it's stereo?
<br\>>I look at the Composite mode again and figure out the audio output
<br\>>but I have seen only 1 audio output?
<br\>
<br\>The balance sets the balance between the two sounds you are using.  It is
<br\>possible to modify your Atari to have two separate audio outs: one for each
<br\>oscillator.  I haven't done this, though.  I just did the audio portion of
<br\>the mod on the VCSp website.  Maybe someone else on here knows where to
<br\>find the schematics for the stereo mod.  Or you could ask on the
<br\>Atariage.com forums.
<br\>
<br\>>I dont really want to use a 2600 emulator but If I do give a try, is
<br\>>all the key pads are available from the Pc kepboard?
<br\>
<br\>I think all the emulators support the full keyboard, although there are
<br\>limits to how many buttons it can detect at once.
<br\>
<br\>>do you have a good emulator dos or windows suggestion?
<br\>
<br\>Z26 is the most accurate:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.whimsey.com/z26/z26.html
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hai!
<br\>
<br\>Maybe's its time to consider writing a FAQ....
<br\>
<br\></me throws it on files of stuff to do/>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>
<br\>- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Slocum" <paul_slocum@m...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >I dont want to spend money and time on Eprom programmer..
<br\>> >is anybody can sell me a pre programmed cartidge?
<br\>>
<br\>> Atariage.com sells them.
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=101
<br\>>
<br\>> >I found this from the yahoo group:
<br\>> >http://www.atari7800.org/schematics/keypadschematic.gif
<br\>> >is thats all I need to build a pad controler?
<br\>>
<br\>> That should work.
<br\>>
<br\>> >from the synthcart overlay, the button mark * 0 # is bal left
<br\>center
<br\>> >Right.
<br\>> >is it because it's stereo?
<br\>> >I look at the Composite mode again and figure out the audio output
<br\>> >but I have seen only 1 audio output?
<br\>>
<br\>> The balance sets the balance between the two sounds you are using.
<br\>It is
<br\>> possible to modify your Atari to have two separate audio outs: one
<br\>for each
<br\>> oscillator.  I haven't done this, though.  I just did the audio
<br\>portion of
<br\>> the mod on the VCSp website.  Maybe someone else on here knows
<br\>where to
<br\>> find the schematics for the stereo mod.  Or you could ask on the
<br\>> Atariage.com forums.
<br\>>
<br\>> >I dont really want to use a 2600 emulator but If I do give a try,
<br\>is
<br\>> >all the key pads are available from the Pc kepboard?
<br\>>
<br\>> I think all the emulators support the full keyboard, although there
<br\>are
<br\>> limits to how many buttons it can detect at once.
<br\>>
<br\>> >do you have a good emulator dos or windows suggestion?
<br\>>
<br\>> Z26 is the most accurate:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.whimsey.com/z26/z26.html
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
this is sort of off topic but does anyone know of any hardware synths
<br\>that anyone has build out of game chips other than the commodore's
<br\>SID? does anyone know if it would be possible to build a hardware
<br\>synth with other game system chips other than the sid? does anyone
<br\>know of any software for systems other than LSDJ nanoloop the
<br\>synthcart CVDRUM and the intellisynth? if anyone can help that would
<br\>be great.
<br\>-eddie
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
On Thursday, January 15, 2004, at 01:59  PM, likeallthelights wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> this is sort of off topic but does anyone know of any hardware synths
<br\>> that anyone has build out of game chips other than the commodore's
<br\>> SID? does anyone know if it would be possible to build a hardware
<br\>> synth with other game system chips other than the sid? does anyone
<br\>> know of any software for systems other than LSDJ nanoloop the
<br\>> synthcart CVDRUM and the intellisynth? if anyone can help that would
<br\>> be great.
<br\>
<br\>If you're into hacking, you can try out my sequencer for pac-man arcade
<br\>hardware...
<br\>It's not really much of a sequencer yet though. heh.
<br\>
<br\>	 http://www.cis.rit.edu/~jerry/Software/pengo/#roms
<br\>
<br\>;)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>Scott "Jerry" Lawrence
<br\>sdlpci@cis.rit.edu
<br\>
<br\>Never shake a Sno-Bee.  Never.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> this is sort of off topic but does anyone know of any hardware synths
<br\>> that anyone has build out of game chips other than the commodore's
<br\>> SID?
<br\>
<br\>     There are some folks who are using the NES chip to build a synthesizer.
<br\>It's a university project, so I don't know whether it will ever be available
<br\>commercially or whether they'll release the plans.  I want to say that the
<br\>project is in Sweden or Norway somewhere, but I don't recall the details.
<br\>Can't find it on Google, but maybe one of you will have better luck.  There
<br\>are lots of pictures, and last I saw it at was in the wirewrap stage of
<br\>hardware.
<br\>
<br\>     I think that I remember that there is a SIDstation type of project for
<br\>the NES chip as well, but again - no details in my head at all.
<br\>
<br\>     Of course there was the Miracle synthesizer which is a full sized
<br\>keyboard that hooked to either an NES or SNES through a special cartridge
<br\>and taught you how to play.  I don't remember how many voices it had.  I
<br\>have the cartridges for both NES and SNES, but haven't found the keyboard
<br\>for a good price yet.
<br\>http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/peripherals/miraclepiano.html
<br\>
<br\>     The Intellivision had a full sized keyboard attachment too.  It hooks up
<br\>to the "computer" add-on and adds three voices to Intellivision's built in
<br\>three.  There is barely any software for it unfortunately, and I feel like
<br\>there is a lot that could be done there.  Once Paul is finished with the
<br\>hundred or so projects that he has on his plate, it would be great if he'd
<br\>consider whipping up something for the Intellivision, but it's probably not
<br\>worth his time since the keyboard thing is on the rare side.
<br\>
<br\>     There is a mysterious MIDI add-on to the Gameboy to turn the GameBoy
<br\>into more of a straight MIDI device rather than a tracker like Nanoloop or
<br\>LSDJ.  www.dsperado.com/pushpin.shtml
<br\>
<br\>     Also some pretty cool looking stuff here:
<br\>http://www.archaeologyfrontier.org/
<br\>
<br\>     Howzzat?
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>  does anyone know if it would be possible to build a hardware
<br\>>synth with other game system chips other than the sid?
<br\>
<br\>If you know how to program microcontrollers, it should be pretty easy to
<br\>build hardware to drive about any of the old sound chips.
<br\>
<br\>If Elektron were smart, they would have made the SIDStation into the
<br\>CHIPStation with support the Pokey, AY's, YM's, and other chips
<br\>too.  Adding sockets/lines and modifying software for a few other chips
<br\>would have added little to the cost of the unit since most of the money is
<br\>probably going into into the board/case fabrication and basic control/MIDI
<br\>software.
<br\>
<br\>>does anyone
<br\>>know of any software for systems other than LSDJ nanoloop the
<br\>>synthcart CVDRUM and the intellisynth?
<br\>
<br\>There's also my Dot Matrix Synth:
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/dotmatrix.html
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
thanks for all the help, i want to find that university project but
<br\>you were right, i can't find it anywhere. It seems like it would be
<br\>easy to just adjust the plans i have for my four SID midisynth to
<br\>work on the nintendo chip or any other sound chip but i don't know
<br\>how to program software so that is a problem.
<br\>-thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
oh i forgot to say that there were rumors about the "greybox synth"
<br\>that some one was working on but the website is shut down so i have
<br\>no idea how to get to the information about it.
<br\>-eddie
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
my band released some new songs. All of them include some Atari. The
<br\>first three use my sequencer kit and the last one (instrumental 1b)
<br\>uses a lot of Synthcart.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.observatoryonline.org/releases/view_release.php?sku=os034
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Does anyone know if the synthcart works allight on a 7800? zwith the
<br\>upcoming cuttle cart II it might make a good music loader at least....
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://www.schells.com/cc2.shtml
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Does anyone know if the synthcart works allight on a 7800? zwith the
<br\>>upcoming cuttle cart II it might make a good music loader at least....
<br\>
<br\>I've never had any problems on the 7800.  The only issue is that the 7800
<br\>doesn't have the B&W/Color switch.  The 7800's pause button is attached to
<br\>the same port, but it's a momentary button.  To get the 7800 to fully work
<br\>with the Synthcart, you gotta solder a switch across the pause button.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
anyone out there know a good source for the keypads for the atari 2600 synth?
<br\>the ebay ones are damned expensive and im trying to build my own. Any help
<br\>appeciated. Thanks
<br\>- Jones
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>anyone out there know a good source for the keypads for the atari 2600 synth?
<br\>>the ebay ones are damned expensive and im trying to build my own. Any help
<br\>>appeciated. Thanks
<br\>
<br\>Ebay is the cheapest place I've found for real Atari keypads.  4Jays used
<br\>to have them for $3 each, but they kept raising the price as demand
<br\>increased.  I found a pair that ended recently with no bids for $8.
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3075000038
<br\>
<br\>Might also try posting on the Atariage forums in the Marketplace section
<br\>and ask if anyone has any to sell.
<br\>
<br\>BGMicro has some keypads if you want to build your own, but they're $5
<br\>each.  Probably be cheaper to use ones out of old telephones (or just
<br\>convert an old one-piece phone into a controller).
<br\>
<br\>http://bgmicro.com/pdf/page26.pdf
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Also, check out www.orphanvideogames.com. They're great folks who can get
<br\>you pretty much anything for the Atari 2600 and just about anything else!
<br\>(That's where I got my pads).
<br\>


Subject:
switching out of the options mode <help?>

SubjectSrt:
switching out of the options mode <help?>

Message:
<br\>
hey, I just started using the synthcart that i ordered
<br\>on atariage, and i can't seem to exit the options
<br\>mode. I only have one video touch pad thus far, and i
<br\>dont know if that's the reason I cant modify stuff and
<br\>then go back to playing. I donbt touch any buttons on
<br\>the pad I am using, but nothing...
<br\>
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Subject:
Re: switching out of the options mode <help?>

Message:
<br\>
>hey, I just started using the synthcart that i ordered
<br\>>on atariage, and i can't seem to exit the options
<br\>>mode. I only have one video touch pad thus far, and i
<br\>>dont know if that's the reason I cant modify stuff and
<br\>>then go back to playing. I donbt touch any buttons on
<br\>>the pad I am using, but nothing...
<br\>
<br\>You must have two pads.  If you don't have one plugged in, the Atari thinks
<br\>all the buttons are pressed at once on that port.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
Ahhh, that's what I figured it might be, but I didn't know if there was a way around it. Thanks for the help. 

<br\> 

<br\>Also, I commend you for your band tree wave. That stuff rocks. I wish I lived near cool artists like you guys. I haven't been able to find anyone in the denver area that's been toying with chip music and reverse engineering. O well, I play my first gameboy show on the auraria campus next week. See how that goes... Maybe in a while I'll lug my atari with me.

<br\> 

<br\>Thanks again,

<br\>CiD

ocum <paul_slocum@mindspring.com> wrote:

<br\>
>hey, I just started using the synthcart that i ordered
>on atariage, and i can't seem to exit the options
>mode. I only have one video touch pad thus far, and i
>dont know if that's the reason I cant modify stuff and
>then go back to playing. I donbt touch any buttons on
>the pad I am using, but nothing...

You must have two pads. If you don't have one plugged in, the Atari thinks 
all the buttons are pressed at once on that port.

-paul 



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<br\>    I find that if you press whatever button(beat 1, arp off, etc.) twice, it will take you back to the main screen. the exception is the tempo selection.

<br\>
<br\>----- Original Message ----- 

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<br\>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:28 AM

<br\>Subject: [synthcart] switching out of the options mode <help?>

<br\>

hey, I just started using the synthcart that i ordered
on atariage, and i can't seem to exit the options
mode. I only have one video touch pad thus far, and i
dont know if that's the reason I cant modify stuff and
then go back to playing. I donbt touch any buttons on
the pad I am using, but nothing...

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Message:
<br\>
I recently picked up two synthcarts from Atariage and was wondering
<br\>if there is an "easy" way to sync them up or a special method to do
<br\>so. Also would it be possible for one Atari's time clock to be
<br\>controlled from a second Atari's time clock by hard wiring them
<br\>together. Of course I'm sure you would have to break the circuit on
<br\>one so it wouldn't go through? Am I making any sense? =(
<br\>
<br\>Sorry if this was disscussed,
<br\>-Tyler-
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I recently picked up two synthcarts from Atariage and was wondering
<br\>>if there is an "easy" way to sync them up or a special method to do
<br\>>so.
<br\>
<br\>You could build a special controller that plugs into both Atari's right
<br\>controller port, and is capable of starting beats on both Atari's at
<br\>exactly the same time.  Probably just use a double throw switch.
<br\>
<br\>>Also would it be possible for one Atari's time clock to be
<br\>>controlled from a second Atari's time clock by hard wiring them
<br\>>together.
<br\>
<br\>I tend to think it would be possible to run two Ataris off of one clock,
<br\>but in my experience it's not necessary.  Maybe your clock frequencies vary
<br\>more than mine, but mine stay in sync fine longer than I've tested for
<br\>(about 15 minutes I think).
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks for the info. I was kina thinking of the controller option as
<br\>well. You are right though, it stays in sync for quite a while.
<br\>Thanks again!
<br\>-Tyler-
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Slocum" <paul_slocum@m...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >I recently picked up two synthcarts from Atariage and was wondering
<br\>> >if there is an "easy" way to sync them up or a special method to do
<br\>> >so.
<br\>>
<br\>> You could build a special controller that plugs into both Atari's
<br\>right
<br\>> controller port, and is capable of starting beats on both Atari's
<br\>at
<br\>> exactly the same time.  Probably just use a double throw switch.
<br\>>
<br\>> >Also would it be possible for one Atari's time clock to be
<br\>> >controlled from a second Atari's time clock by hard wiring them
<br\>> >together.
<br\>>
<br\>> I tend to think it would be possible to run two Ataris off of one
<br\>clock,
<br\>> but in my experience it's not necessary.  Maybe your clock
<br\>frequencies vary
<br\>> more than mine, but mine stay in sync fine longer than I've tested
<br\>for
<br\>> (about 15 minutes I think).
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "amigatrash" <dispyz@h...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> You are right though, it stays in sync for quite a while.
<br\>
<br\>Yeah, they do stay in sync forEVER.
<br\>A few of the tempos can be "doubled."
<br\>like:
<br\>89.88 and 179.77
<br\>74.9 and 149.81
<br\>good for doing D'n'B songs that drop to half-tempo hiphop type
<br\>rythms.
<br\>Also, some games seem to go in time with the synthcart
<br\>tempos. Like the constant bleeps in demon attack and
<br\>centipede.
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>burnkit2600.com
<br\>litmusound.com
<br\>/////////////////////
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Also, some games seem to go in time with the synthcart
<br\>>tempos. Like the constant bleeps in demon attack and
<br\>>centipede.
<br\>
<br\>It's because everything is synced to the TV's refresh rate.
<br\>
<br\>A few months ago I noticed that if I add a few scanlines to the TV picture,
<br\>it changes the refresh rate so that some of the tempos fall on exact BPM
<br\>values like 148.00.  If I ever release a new version of the Synthcart, I'll
<br\>switch to that refresh rate.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I have tried a number of them but cant seem to get synth cart
<br\>functioning. Any ideas? Thanks.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I have tried a number of them but cant seem to get synth cart
<br\>>functioning. Any ideas? Thanks.
<br\>
<br\>They have to be configured for F8 bankswitching and keyboard controllers.
<br\>
<br\>I use Z26 which defaults to F8, but you'll have to select the keyboard
<br\>controllers using the -y3 switch.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks!
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul_slocum@m...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >I have tried a number of them but cant seem to get synth cart
<br\>> >functioning. Any ideas? Thanks.
<br\>>
<br\>> They have to be configured for F8 bankswitching and keyboard
<br\>controllers.
<br\>>
<br\>> I use Z26 which defaults to F8, but you'll have to select the
<br\>keyboard
<br\>> controllers using the -y3 switch.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
in los angeles at club microwave, saw 8-bit weapon performing live
<br\>with cynthcart on commodore 64 (incredible sound overlay) - holy
<br\>crap!  it sounded rock solid, and looked really neat!
<br\>(clubmicrowave.com)  you should book a show!
<br\>
<br\>can i obtain an eprom of cynthcart to make my own cartridge?  id
<br\>really like to play cynthcart on the hardware, but dont have a
<br\>prommer - boo
<br\>
<br\>keep up the great work paul!
<br\>
<br\>seth s. nemec
<br\>www.cyndustries.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>
<br\>> can i obtain an eprom of cynthcart to make my own cartridge?  id
<br\>> really like to play cynthcart on the hardware, but dont have a
<br\>> prommer - boo
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>That what always confused me ... for years people were doing really
<br\>cool hardware mods for the commie and now it seems any new hardware
<br\>coming out has been completely been ecplipsed by atari hardware
<br\>development. What up.. is it band name reconition?
<br\>
<br\>Ps: this is a roudnabout way of there being more multicarts like this:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atarimax.com/flashcart/documentation/index.html
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Subject:
switching from play mode to options screen BLEEP!

SubjectSrt:
switching from play mode to options screen BLEEP!

Message:
<br\>
I purchased the almighty synthcart from Atariage a few months ago and
<br\>have been playing it alot at home. My friends get a real kick out of
<br\>it, especially when I put it into light show mode!
<br\>
<br\>  Is there a way to switch from play mode to either of the option
<br\>screens without that disruptive bleep sound occuring? I wanted to be
<br\>able to switch from one beatbox bank to another and use different adr
<br\>settings while playing live but get frustrated by the bleep that
<br\>occurs when switching to and from the option screens.
<br\>
<br\>  The only way I can work around this I figure is to switch screens in
<br\>time with the beats that I'm working on, that get's annoying after
<br\>awhile though.
<br\>
<br\>  Please help.
<br\>
<br\>tako the oktopus
<br\>
<br\>http://www.eastvan.bc.ca/~tako/
<br\>


Subject:
Re: switching from play mode to options screen BLEEP!

Message:
<br\>
>  Is there a way to switch from play mode to either of the option
<br\>>screens without that disruptive bleep sound occuring?
<br\>
<br\>Sorry, there's no way to turn it off.  I did it so you'd have an audio
<br\>confirmation of when you enter and exit the option screens.  If I do an
<br\>update, I'll be sure and include the option to turn that sound off.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> in los angeles at club microwave, saw 8-bit weapon
<br\>> performing live
<br\>> with cynthcart on commodore 64 (incredible sound
<br\>> overlay) - holy
<br\>> crap!  it sounded rock solid, and looked really
<br\>> neat!
<br\>> (clubmicrowave.com)  you should book a show!
<br\>>
<br\>> can i obtain an eprom of cynthcart to make my own
<br\>> cartridge?  id
<br\>> really like to play cynthcart on the hardware, but
<br\>> dont have a
<br\>> prommer - boo
<br\>>
<br\>> keep up the great work paul!
<br\>>
<br\>> seth s. nemec
<br\>> www.cyndustries.com
<br\>
<br\>Hey Paul,
<br\>
<br\>I saw Treewave at the NY Underground Film Festival
<br\>this past Friday night and it blew my freaking mind.
<br\>I'd been d/ling the mp3s as I've found them and
<br\>enjoyed them, but it was nothing in comparison to
<br\>seeing the visuals huge on the screen and watching you
<br\>manipulate these devices live.  I was the one in the
<br\>audience who asked whether you planned to convert any
<br\>other outmoded technologies into instruments.  Keep us
<br\>posted when you get back out this way; if your
<br\>performance did that much for me while stone sober,
<br\>well...
<br\>
<br\>"But, uh, would you consider yourself working in
<br\>'robotic arts'?"  Bwahahahahaha... oh, he wanted to
<br\>look so cool so much, it was sad, yet hysterical.
<br\>
<br\>Ken Applebaum
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>__________________________________
<br\>Do you Yahoo!?
<br\>Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam
<br\>http://mail.yahoo.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hi this is a little of topic but im trying to get a copy of the
<br\>cynthcart and some other music programs onto my commodore but i can
<br\>not figure out how to work the star commander. i got an x1541 cable
<br\>and i set the options to that cable and all the things it's supposed
<br\>to be but once i get into the star commander its self i have no idea
<br\>how to send a file from my computer to my commodore. if anyone knows
<br\>how please help me out
<br\>-eddie
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello!  I have been writing my own music for the 2600 and testing it on an
<br\>emulator- but
<br\>now I'm ready to run these tunes on hardware.  I have been searching all over
<br\>for a
<br\>starpath supercharger- no luck so far.  If someone can point me in the right
<br\>direction
<br\>(besides ebay) i would greatly appreciate it.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> Hello!  I have been writing my own music for the 2600 and testing it on an
<br\>emulator- but
<br\>> now I'm ready to run these tunes on hardware.  I have been searching all
<br\>over for a
<br\>> starpath supercharger- no luck so far.  If someone can point me in the
<br\>right direction
<br\>> (besides ebay) i would greatly appreciate it.
<br\>
<br\>     There's a new auction site expressly for videogames at www.bidiots.com .
<br\>I haven't used it myself yet, but lots of people on video game forums I read
<br\>seem to like it a lot.
<br\>
<br\>     I would also recommend that you go to the forums at www.atariage.com as
<br\>there is a "marketplace" forum where you can post your desire for a
<br\>Supercharger.  Another really popular site with a forum is
<br\>www.digitpress.com .  A Supercharger shouldn't set you back too much - maybe
<br\>around $20-30?  Though I've seen them for as low as $6 in some of the
<br\>forums.
<br\>
<br\>     You can also try some of the other Atari sales sites like
<br\>www.atari2600.com, www.4jays.com, www.goatstore.com ... and probably more
<br\>that I'm forgetting.  I've done business with all three with no problems at
<br\>all.
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Seth:
<br\>
<br\>Yeah, I can probably burn the EPROM for ya, but I've got way too much to do
<br\>right now.  Contact me directly in a couple of weeks about it.
<br\>
<br\>Just to clarify for the group, he's talking about my Commodore 64
<br\>synthesizer cartridge.
<br\>
<br\>  From Ken:
<br\>>I saw Treewave at the NY Underground Film Festival
<br\>>this past Friday night and it blew my freaking mind.
<br\>
<br\>Ha, cool!  Thanks for coming out, and I'm glad you liked it.  It was great
<br\>having the projections on such an enormous screen.
<br\>
<br\>>"But, uh, would you consider yourself working in
<br\>>'robotic arts'?"  Bwahahahahaha... oh, he wanted to
<br\>>look so cool so much, it was sad, yet hysterical.
<br\>
<br\>Hehe, yeah.  Well, I've been asked worse questions.  I guess parts the
<br\>printer is kinda like robotics since I'm programming stepper motors and
<br\>solenoids.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey all-
<br\>Just wanted to let you know: My band Burnkit2600 will be playing
<br\>the BENT2004 festival in NYC on april 3rd. It's a week-long circuit
<br\>bending festival with lots of great performers and workshops. In
<br\>addition to many circuit bent toys, we will also be showcasing
<br\>paul's atari synthcart, so throw grandma in the jeep and head on
<br\>down! It should be a fun time for everyone.
<br\>More info here:
<br\>http://www.thetanknyc.com/bent/
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>www.burnkit2600.com
<br\>www.litmusound.com
<br\>///////////////////////////////////////
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Just wanted to let you know: My band Burnkit2600 will be playing
<br\>>the BENT2004 festival in NYC on april 3rd. It's a week-long circuit
<br\>>bending festival with lots of great performers and workshops. In
<br\>>addition to many circuit bent toys, we will also be showcasing
<br\>>paul's atari synthcart, so throw grandma in the jeep and head on
<br\>>down! It should be a fun time for everyone.
<br\>
<br\>Cool!! I just shipped them a Synthcart and Dot Matrix Synth which they'll
<br\>have set up for people to check out.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Slocum"
<br\><paul_slocum@m...> wrote:
<br\>> Cool!! I just shipped them a Synthcart and Dot Matrix Synth
<br\>which they'll
<br\>> have set up for people to check out.
<br\>
<br\>Oh, awesome!
<br\>I was just telling someone about the dot matrix synth at the show
<br\>at fluxfactory. I had fun playing with that thing. I guess the folks at
<br\>the tank are friends with the folks at fluxfactory... Cant wait. it's
<br\>gonna be a great festival.
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>www.burnkit2600.com
<br\>www.litmusound.com
<br\>///////////////////////////////////////
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://www.alphaworks.com.au/Shop.htm
<br\>
<br\>This company is selling unpopulated c64 cartridge boards... might be
<br\>suitable for burning the rom onto
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>http://www.alphaworks.com.au/Shop.htm
<br\>>
<br\>>This company is selling unpopulated c64 cartridge boards... might be
<br\>>suitable for burning the rom onto
<br\>
<br\>Thanks, I just ordered a board and case.  I'll see how it works and get back.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
If you do an update I could convince a few of my friends to buy the
<br\>synthcart. I myself would by two more!
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul_slocum@m...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >  Is there a way to switch from play mode to either of the option
<br\>> >screens without that disruptive bleep sound occuring?
<br\>>
<br\>> Sorry, there's no way to turn it off.  I did it so you'd have an audio
<br\>> confirmation of when you enter and exit the option screens.  If I do an
<br\>> update, I'll be sure and include the option to turn that sound off.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Just had to mention that here in NYC I checked out the first night of
<br\>the Bent festival (circuit-bending festival) at The Tank, and got to
<br\>play around with one of Paul's dot matrix printer synths.  Absolutely
<br\>amazing device.  I really had to fight to tear myself away.
<br\>
<br\>Josh
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>.: BIT SHIFTER ::.:..:::.::.. ::. .:::. ::.:.. . .:: .    .
<br\>.: http://www.bitshifter.cc/
<br\>.: _LIFE'S A BIT SHIFTER_ CD OUT NOW!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yeah, i was there too. That was the second time i got to check
<br\>out the dot matrix synth. They didn't have paper in it this time, tho.
<br\>It actually prints out a picture when you play it. And i swear, the
<br\>paper helps amplify the sound a bit (like the paper cone in a
<br\>speaker)
<br\>
<br\>Also on display was the synthcart-
<br\>Paul, was that a new OS, or a demo version, or something?
<br\>It was eternally on light show mode, and the sounds were a bit
<br\>different. I showed some people how they could change the
<br\>sounds by flipping the switches, but couldn't get to the menus.
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>www.burnkit2600.com
<br\>www.litmusound.com
<br\>////////////////////////////////////////
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Yeah, i was there too. That was the second time i got to check
<br\>>out the dot matrix synth. They didn't have paper in it this time, tho.
<br\>>It actually prints out a picture when you play it. And i swear, the
<br\>>paper helps amplify the sound a bit (like the paper cone in a
<br\>>speaker)
<br\>
<br\>Ah crap, that's what happens when you don't get to set stuff up
<br\>yourself.  I'll email Mike about it, although it's a little too late.  I
<br\>did send some paper and a copy of the full printout.  Damn, that's kind of
<br\>a key part of the piece!
<br\>
<br\>>Also on display was the synthcart-
<br\>>Paul, was that a new OS, or a demo version, or something?
<br\>>It was eternally on light show mode, and the sounds were a bit
<br\>>different. I showed some people how they could change the
<br\>>sounds by flipping the switches, but couldn't get to the menus.
<br\>
<br\>That's a special version I use for gallery installations.  There is
<br\>actually a way to get to the menus, although I can't remember what the
<br\>key/switch combo is.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Tako said he didn't like the sounds made when switching in and out of the
<br\>options screens.  I can see how this would be a problem if you were
<br\>switching mid-song.  I often use the Synthcart without a TV, and it's
<br\>easier to use when there's a sound to cue you as to when you're entering
<br\>and exiting the menus.
<br\>
<br\>What does everyone else think about this?  I'm thinking I'll make it so if
<br\>you hold down Game Reset when you turn on the Atari, it turns the indicator
<br\>sounds off.  Does that sound reasonable?  Would you prefer that they
<br\>default to off?
<br\>
<br\>Eventually I plan on releasing a few more updates (tempos that fall exactly
<br\>on round BPM values, high hat sound, more arp features) but it's going to
<br\>be quite a few months before I get to that.  Adding the ability to turn off
<br\>those sounds is a really easy fix.
<br\>
<br\>I really want to program an Atari step sequencer too.  Hopefully I'll get
<br\>around to that later this year.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello all,
<br\>I hate to be bothersome and post what has no doubt been posted
<br\>1,000's of times already, but I was wondering if anyone had a link or
<br\>some other way of obtaining information on modding a 2600 with a 1/4"
<br\>output, or something easily convertible to 1/4" (1/8",
<br\>RCA/Composite)? I browsed the files and links but I may have
<br\>overlooked something.
<br\>Thanks for your time,
<br\>-Jan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>
<br\>> What does everyone else think about this?  I'm thinking I'll make it
<br\>so if
<br\>> you hold down Game Reset when you turn on the Atari, it turns the
<br\>indicator
<br\>> sounds off.  Does that sound reasonable?  Would you prefer that they
<br\>> default to off?
<br\>
<br\>I would perfer the default to be off.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Eventually I plan on releasing a few more updates (tempos that fall
<br\>exactly
<br\>> on round BPM values, high hat sound, more arp features) but it's
<br\>going to
<br\>> be quite a few months before I get to that.  Adding the ability to
<br\>turn off
<br\>> those sounds is a really easy fix.
<br\>
<br\>I would love all of these very very much! For those with epromers the
<br\>simple hack should be released, but I perfer a full update relase on
<br\>cart and can wait....
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Unless I find time to make a burner myself :)
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> I really want to program an Atari step sequencer too.  Hopefully
<br\>I'll get
<br\>> around to that later this year.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>It would cool to have a step seqnver/looper/ synthcart combo where you
<br\>can define your own loops and play synth meolodies over your own beats
<br\>
<br\>Although one could always have 2 2600's running each flavor....
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I just uploaded a photo to the group's "photo" area of what must be the
<br\>most productive and space efficient gear for playing Synthcart.  :-)
<br\>
<br\>     Imagine bringing this Montgomery Wards monster to a gig.
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>


Subject:
Re: ultimate synthcart development platform

Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Bohus Blahut" <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>     I just uploaded a photo to the group's "photo" area of what must
<br\>be the
<br\>> most productive and space efficient gear for playing Synthcart.  :-)
<br\>>
<br\>>     Imagine bringing this Montgomery Wards monster to a gig.
<br\>>
<br\>> - Bohus Blahut
<br\>>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Is that a direct drive or belt driven turntable? :)
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: ultimate synthcart development platform

Message:
<br\>
> >     Imagine bringing this Montgomery Wards monster to a gig.
<br\>
<br\>> Is that a direct drive or belt driven turntable? :)
<br\>
<br\>     I'm not sure, but the turntable has a sticker on that proclaims "genuine
<br\>diamond needle".  :)
<br\>
<br\>     If I were more ambitious, this device could be made even "cooler" by
<br\>installing a color TV.  Also cool would be to hack it so that the turntable
<br\>and the TV worked at the same time, so you could have a breakbeat record and
<br\>Synthcart going in tandem.  And I guess the ultimate would be to build an
<br\>Atari inside the thing so the cartridge plugs into the face of the unit.
<br\>
<br\>     As silly as it sounds, now that I've said it I'm kind of surprised that
<br\>no one made a TV with an Atari slot built into it.  I know that Magnavox did
<br\>a TV with Pong built in.  There was also a boombox with a Sega Genesis built
<br\>into it (but no TV, you still had to hook it up externally).  There are
<br\>probably some other weird hybrids that I'm forgetting...  Hmmm.
<br\>
<br\>     Happy Easter, everyone!
<br\>
<br\>- Bohus Blahut
<br\>   (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>   modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Check out....
<br\>
<br\>http://www.prophet64.com/
<br\>
<br\>Sounds pretty cool, can even be hooked up to sync24 clock generators....
<br\>
<br\>the demo's are not terribly impressed (acid anyone) but it might me a
<br\>good bass part for your cynthcart leads. Maybe im being stupid but it
<br\>doesn't have a noice generator?
<br\>
<br\>[eyeyeter
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Cynthcart Cart Companion program...?

Message:
<br\>
does anyone know how to work the star commander, im having huge
<br\>problems with it and a walkthrough would be great
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Check out....
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.prophet64.com/
<br\>>
<br\>> Sounds pretty cool, can even be hooked up to sync24 clock
<br\>generators....
<br\>>
<br\>> the demo's are not terribly impressed (acid anyone) but it might me
<br\>a
<br\>> good bass part for your cynthcart leads. Maybe im being stupid but
<br\>it
<br\>> doesn't have a noice generator?
<br\>>
<br\>> [eyeyeter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "likeallthelights"
<br\><iloverorygilmore@h...> wrote:
<br\>> does anyone know how to work the star commander, im having huge
<br\>> problems with it and a walkthrough would be great
<br\>
<br\>i had it working once in 98 but ive never gotten it to work on xp ven
<br\>with the tutorial....
<br\>
<br\>Im syaing fuck all and am trying to get a computer up as a true dos
<br\>box.....
<br\>
<br\>whats your setup?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: Cynthcart Cart Companion program...?

Message:
<br\>
>does anyone know how to work the star commander, im having huge
<br\>>problems with it and a walkthrough would be great
<br\>
<br\>I had to try a LOT of different versions of the program before I found one
<br\>that worked.  I was using a Pentium 1 computer booting to DOS 7.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I have a less than a year old Ibm thinkpad running windows XP.
<br\>thanks for the help
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul_slocum@m...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >does anyone know how to work the star commander, im having huge
<br\>> >problems with it and a walkthrough would be great
<br\>>
<br\>> I had to try a LOT of different versions of the program before I
<br\>found one
<br\>> that worked.  I was using a Pentium 1 computer booting to DOS 7.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


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<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "likeallthelights"
<br\><iloverorygilmore@h...> wrote:
<br\>> I have a less than a year old Ibm thinkpad running windows XP.
<br\>> thanks for the help
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>check out the the beta version and read the usage sections for tips on
<br\>using it on xp or dosemu...
<br\>
<br\>here is the xp tweak package
<br\>http://sta.c64.org/sc_winnt.zip
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>the big problem with printer port shit is that is so hard to
<br\>troubleshoot stuff with the printerport... there are absoloutley no
<br\>clues to why something stops working....
<br\>
<br\>I had a computer reboot one day and ever since I can use my gameboy
<br\>cart writer on my main pc...
<br\>
<br\>real drag...
<br\>


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<br\>
I am using windows 98 with a XE-1541 cable and I never had a single
<br\>problem with it. Maybe I'm just lucky? What I do is this: first I
<br\>hook up the 1541 commodore disk drive and power the pc. I then boot
<br\>the star commander program and it should automatically search the
<br\>commodore dive for a floppy (MAKE SURE THE 1541 COMMODORE DRIVE IS
<br\>ON!!!!). If it doesn't search, then the next step would be to right
<br\>click the mouse at the top of the star commander and go to the menu
<br\>named "right". When at that menu go to "drive" (it should be at the
<br\>bottom) and choose "8". It should force the star commander to look
<br\>for the commodore drive. If it displays the contents of the floppy
<br\>then you are good to go! At that point go to the menu on the left and
<br\>find the commodore file you want to transfer to the 1541 drive. They
<br\>most likely end in .d64 Once you find it just click once to choose
<br\>it, but don't open it!!! (you can open it if you want to transfer
<br\>single files, but it's easier to just click the name so it does
<br\>everything in one shot) Now right click at the top of the star
<br\>commander and go to the menu titled "files". Once there go to "copy"
<br\>and voila!! You are now a c64 whiz!? You might run into the problem
<br\>of having the wrong cable and maybe that is why it's not working too.
<br\>I hope this helps and if there are any questions feel free to ask. I
<br\>don't know much at all but it's better to try swim than sink.
<br\>
<br\>-Tyler-
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello,
<br\>
<br\>If any of you are interested there is a yahoo group looking to start
<br\>a NES championship type deal in the near future. (Kind of like the
<br\>old power fests in the late '80s early '90s.) The moderator just got
<br\>word that if the group received 1,000 members they can get
<br\>sponsorship from several companies and write ups in a few video game
<br\>mags. Just follow this site to join the yahoo group.
<br\>
<br\>http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/UKretro_championhips/
<br\>
<br\>We are very few now, (well very, very, few anyways) but imagine if
<br\>this thing actually took off!!! Way cool.
<br\>
<br\>-Tyler-
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I picked up this midi c64 inteferface/ cartridge off ebay the other
<br\>day, and it seems pretty cool. It has builtin sqeuencer software, and
<br\>a feature to load programs into flash memory. Would be a great way to
<br\>load a cynth cart type poragram onto disk and have it be controlable
<br\>via midi or something. I have to mess with it once I get my dospc up
<br\>and going and can use star commander again.
<br\>
<br\>If anyone wants to take a look at the manual ill try to scan it this
<br\>weekend.
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>ps: I have finaly perfect my atari jr audio out mod and will be shwing
<br\>off demos of the atari scale files versus softsynths soon as well.
<br\>
<br\>Peter!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey.  I just ordered the cartridge.  As soon as I'm finished with
<br\>finals and get home from school it should be waiting for me!  My
<br\>question is this:  which controllers would you suggest buying?  Are
<br\>there any differences between the different ones that I can use as
<br\>far as responsiveness or the size of them?  I'd appreciate some
<br\>input.  I'll probably be posting again sometime soon when I go to
<br\>install the audio out...I'm an idiot when it comes to electronics.
<br\>Alright, thanks.
<br\>-Paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <lostinthought247@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Hey.  I just ordered the cartridge.  As soon as I'm finished with
<br\>> finals and get home from school it should be waiting for me!  My
<br\>> question is this:  which controllers would you suggest buying?  Are
<br\>> there any differences between the different ones that I can use as
<br\>> far as responsiveness or the size of them?  I'd appreciate some
<br\>> input.  I'll probably be posting again sometime soon when I go to
<br\>> install the audio out...I'm an idiot when it comes to electronics.
<br\>> Alright, thanks.
<br\>> -Paul
<br\>
<br\>Video Touch Pads have the smoothest control for playing imghp, but it
<br\>seems the atari programing controllers might be easier to mod if you
<br\>ever want to get fancy and hardwire diffrent controllers for this
<br\>(more on this later once i find some time to fuck around with it). I
<br\>was thinking of taking two of these and hardwiring them into a atari
<br\>jr for some portable fun.
<br\>
<br\>Maybe  make it battery powered....
<br\>
<br\>the Kids touch pad seems to be about the same, but the pads are HUGE.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I agree, the Video Touch Pads are the best.  I use the Kids Controllers
<br\>just cause they look the best to use live, but they really aren't as easy
<br\>to play as the Touch Pads.  You have to mash the buttons harder to get contact.
<br\>
<br\>That's a good point that the Keyboard Controllers may be good for
<br\>modification, but they suck to play with IMO.  The buttons are just too
<br\>small and require too much force.  One of these days I need to try making a
<br\>custom controller.  It would be great to use arcade buttons like I did for
<br\>the dot matrix synth controller!
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> That's a good point that the Keyboard Controllers may be good for
<br\>> modification, but they suck to play with IMO.  The buttons are just too
<br\>> small and require too much force.  One of these days I need to try
<br\>making a
<br\>> custom controller.  It would be great to use arcade buttons like I
<br\>did for
<br\>> the dot matrix synth controller!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>It would aso seem trivial to gut a keyboard for a toy synth and add
<br\>switch contacts to make a more tradtional inferface... I was thinking
<br\>of using one octave of a keyboard, and one 12 button phone keypad type
<br\>switch and hardwiring them directly in the grill of a 2600. Add some
<br\>guitars strap knobs, ands you can rock the 2600 out all over da club.
<br\>
<br\>my soldering skills need to improve much more for this step...
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
In extreme anticipation of going home (tomorrow) I'm posting my
<br\>questions about installing the audio out a little early.  I will
<br\>preface by saying that I am a damb fool so take these questions with
<br\>a grain of salt if you feel that their answers are obvious.
<br\>
<br\>All right, first off.  I've never soldered before.  Would it be a bad
<br\>idea to start my soldering career off on my Atari?  Not that my Atari
<br\>isn't entiretly replaceable but I'd rather not ruin it.  Is this
<br\>something extremely easy to do?
<br\>
<br\>Second, what gauge wire-wrap should I use?  In addition...is it wire-
<br\>wrap that I should be using...I just assumed.
<br\>
<br\>Third, where does one buy a 1/4" jack?  I'm sure they're online
<br\>somewhere but I'd rather not have to order one.  Do they sell them
<br\>possibly at Radio Shack or Best Buy?
<br\>
<br\>Fourth and last, not a question really; visit my two most recent
<br\>websites for some interesting pointlessness.
<br\>my virtual dormroom...severely lacking in recent updates is located
<br\>at www.albany.edu/~ph6554 Many many of the pictures are not working
<br\>currently.  I have no idea why and I have no motivation to change it
<br\>just yet.  My future (next semester) Soda Fraternity is located
<br\>currently at www.albany.edu/~ph6554/bob/main.htm
<br\>Oh, and check out a sketch comedy group I am a part of at
<br\>www.clevercitizen.com/Comedy.htm  If you don't feel like looking at
<br\>all the videos I feel that the funniest one is the "mid lent writer's
<br\>meeting" which coincidentally doesn't feature me.  Anyway, good day
<br\>to everyone.  It's off to my Development of Theatre and Drama final
<br\>and home tomorrow to Upstate New York, the bane of excitement.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>
<br\>> All right, first off.  I've never soldered before.  Would it be a bad
<br\>> idea to start my soldering career off on my Atari?  Not that my Atari
<br\>> isn't entiretly replaceable but I'd rather not ruin it.  Is this
<br\>> something extremely easy to do?
<br\>
<br\>Very easy to do for the most part. Depnds on how fancy you want to get
<br\>on your mod. A sinmple mono out is very very easy, and a stereo is
<br\>only slightly  harder, moreso if you opt to have it switchable from
<br\>mono to stereo.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Second, what gauge wire-wrap should I use?  In addition...is it wire-
<br\>> wrap that I should be using...I just assumed.
<br\>
<br\>I actually just ripped some cables off a ide cable. Pretty thin and
<br\>probaly gonna be crappy, but its what I had lying around.
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Third, where does one buy a 1/4" jack?  I'm sure they're online
<br\>> somewhere but I'd rather not have to order one.  Do they sell them
<br\>> possibly at Radio Shack or Best Buy?
<br\>
<br\>Radio yes, or guitar stores have them. They are usually cheaper at
<br\>electronics stores. I got a dual rca adaptor for my atari junior. One
<br\>is mono out and one is very shitty video. Ill probalay due a 1/4" on
<br\>my vader next weekend.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>here is the fancy heckodorm mod
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45581
<br\>
<br\>and the atari jr mod
<br\>
<br\>http://atariage.com/howto/composite.html
<br\>
<br\>and big comaprison of all the options
<br\>
<br\>http://www.cheeptech.com/2600mods/2600mods.shtml
<br\>
<br\>good luck and POST mp3's when songs are done
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Ok, I have everything I need and I've opened my 6-switch.  I have a
<br\>few questions now though.  I'm going by the portables site's
<br\>instructions because they seem easiest.  Anyway, do I connect the
<br\>wire directly to the spot marked on that site, or do I connect it to
<br\>the diode behind it on the other side?  Also, for ground, is
<br\>the "metal shield" simply the much thicker band that runs along one
<br\>side of the board?  Also, again, do I connect the wire for ground on
<br\>the side with all of the resisters and such, or the side with all the
<br\>diodes?  Sorry if I'm an idiot.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I am only marginally farther ahead of you so anyone should feel free
<br\>to correct me...
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <lostinthought247@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Ok, I have everything I need and I've opened my 6-switch.  I have a
<br\>> few questions now though.  I'm going by the portables site's
<br\>> instructions because they seem easiest.  Anyway, do I connect the
<br\>> wire directly to the spot marked on that site, or do I connect it to
<br\>> the diode behind it on the other side?
<br\>
<br\>to the spot marked. The connection would seem like it would be
<br\>stronger there than hanging off the diode (but that should work as well)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   Also, for ground, is
<br\>> the "metal shield" simply the much thicker band that runs along one
<br\>> side of the board?
<br\>
<br\>Yes
<br\>
<br\>  Also, again, do I connect the wire for ground on
<br\>> the side with all of the resisters and such, or the side with all the
<br\>> diodes?  Sorry if I'm an idiot.
<br\>
<br\>Witchever connection to ground is the easier. Ground is pretty general.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>good luck
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Amazing.  I've installed the audio out.  It was incredibly easy.
<br\>Thank you to everyone who posted replies.  For the ground I actually
<br\>just twisted the wire around the one screw that connects to the metal
<br\>strip and screwed it down really tight.  Good stuff...anyway...not to
<br\>be a bother but now I'm experiencing another problem.  I don't yet
<br\>have keypad controllers.  They are on the way as we speak however.
<br\>But, I've tried loading up the synthcart and some strange things
<br\>happen.  First, the normal screen loads up fine but there is the
<br\>sound of whatever voices are selected playing permanantly.  It makes
<br\>those sounds until I hit the reset which makes the beep and activates
<br\>the options mode.  In addition, the options mode never clicks back to
<br\>the main screen.  I can access both options menus but neither ever
<br\>clicks back.  The instructions that came with the cart said that
<br\>after a few seconds it would return.  I'm very confused about all of
<br\>this.  Is there some reason that I need the controllers in for it to
<br\>work fine?  That is the only thing I seem to be doing wrong.  Ok, I'd
<br\>appreciate some input.  Thank you to everyone for being patient with
<br\>me, peace.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've just realized that it was only one person who replied about the
<br\>audio out so "thank you to everyone who posted" is kind of silly.
<br\>Anyway, thank you to H. Prof. Pete Lewis Swimm.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So through looking at past posts I've discovered the answer to my
<br\>problem.  I don't have keypads plugged in so the atari thinks that
<br\>all the buttons are being pushed.  This solves everything.  Thank you
<br\>to Paul Slocum for solving my problem back in February.  Ok, now to
<br\>get those controllers....
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Is it possible to make an adaptor so that one could use a nintendo
<br\>controller on the atari?  I was looking at my nintendo power pad,
<br\>which curiously has 12 buttons and marvelling at how amazing it would
<br\>be to perform with the synthcart by dancing on the pad.  Is this
<br\>possible?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <lostinthought247@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Is it possible to make an adaptor so that one could use a nintendo
<br\>> controller on the atari?  I was looking at my nintendo power pad,
<br\>> which curiously has 12 buttons and marvelling at how amazing it would
<br\>> be to perform with the synthcart by dancing on the pad.  Is this
<br\>> possible?
<br\>
<br\>you could really have any 12 switches work in the keypad. You would
<br\>have to wire up the schematic the same as in the yahoogroups file
<br\>sections and it should work. This basically means disregarding any of
<br\>the hardware in the nes pad and hooking switches directly up to the
<br\>swtiches themselves. For more info on this take a look at any of the
<br\>nes to atari mods out there on the web...
<br\>
<br\>here is one
<br\>http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/6058/2600nes.txt
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>
<br\>PS: ive been using a the gameboy pad to play some on the fly gameboy
<br\>sound programs and for me its not very easy or musical.... they would
<br\>be good for triggering notes but for rocking out single notes in a
<br\>musical fashion... its a little difficult
<br\>
<br\>someone needs to make something like the akai mpc2000 pads for atari..
<br\>THAT would rule
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <lostinthought247@y...> wrote:
<br\>> I've just realized that it was only one person who replied about the
<br\>> audio out so "thank you to everyone who posted" is kind of silly.
<br\>> Anyway, thank you to H. Prof. Pete Lewis Swimm.
<br\>
<br\>Hey,
<br\>
<br\>If you'd like, I could develop some kind of retroactive fugure state
<br\>and slip into multiple personalities while replying to you.
<br\>
<br\>In the past that is
<br\>
<br\>glad everything worked out (now write songs)
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
!yo!
<br\>
<br\>The biggest thing affecting synthcart populairty (not really, but go
<br\>with me on this) is a beat editor. There are tons of rom hackers to
<br\>change sprites and junk in atari roms, it should be fairly trivial to
<br\>hack one together for synthcart where you can hack your beats into a
<br\>rom. This can then be sent off to atariage or whereever to make a
<br\>custom cart for you to take to shows.
<br\>
<br\>So the idea is... have a programing contest to come up with one. Any
<br\>who cant program  (or whomever) contribute money to a pot. Whoever
<br\>comes up with a porgram that does this firsts wins the pots, and
<br\>endless bug reports.
<br\>
<br\>thoughts?
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
You can already program your own beats with the Sequencer Kit that Paul
<br\>released.  It doesn't have a WYSIWYG, but I remember hearing tell that
<br\>someone is working on one?
<br\>
<br\>Before SYnthcart was released there was a contest to create the beats that
<br\>were included in the final cart - someone created a java program to help
<br\>create those.
<br\>
<br\>I think that you could compile the resulting files yourself and run them
<br\>to a Supercharger or playback on a real Atari.
<br\>
<br\>So I thinkt hat what you're asking for is already out there.  Hope so!  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Bohus Blahut (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)                           Bohus@xnet.com
<br\>Modern Filmmaker                             vox:              773.465.5158
<br\>					      fax: (call first) 773.274.9452
<br\>director- The Vantage Point
<br\>
<br\>         "Imitation is the sincerest form of copyright infringement"
<br\>                                                                      -BB
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> Before SYnthcart was released there was a contest to create the
<br\>beats that
<br\>> were included in the final cart - someone created a java program to help
<br\>> create those.
<br\>>
<br\>> I think that you could compile the resulting files yourself and run them
<br\>> to a Supercharger or playback on a real Atari.
<br\>>
<br\>> So I thinkt hat what you're asking for is already out there.  Hope
<br\>so!  :)
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>That a diffrent progrm though... it uses the same basic beat data but
<br\>its played using the switches and not the same gui as synthcart...
<br\>one could always use the sequencer and make their own songs, but it
<br\>doesn't have the on the fly fun that synthcart has
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Subject:
attn: Paul - Beat Maker was Possible Contest Idea

SubjectSrt:
attn: Paul - Beat Maker was Possible Contest Idea

Message:
<br\>
It's relatively easy to create new songs and beats using the kits
<br\>Paul Slocum and atariage have available on their sites.
<br\>
<br\>Which brings me to some current trouble im having, (the reason i
<br\>rejoined this group) .. hopefully someone can help me out.
<br\>
<br\>I've been hacking at the Beat Maker files for the last couple of
<br\>weeks for a show thats coming up next week. My intention was to use a
<br\>Supercharger to play some 3 part beats and switch parts on and off.
<br\>I've got a couple of really good ones, but im having a lot of trouble
<br\>changing the tempo.
<br\>I've messed around with the assembly files and found which bits of
<br\>code effect the tempo, and that different amounts of text lines on
<br\>the screen can alter the tempo as well. But I havent found anything
<br\>that gets the loops to play in a usable tempo.
<br\>I need these files to play on the atari in the area of at least 110
<br\>bpms. I think theyre still firing a bit lower right now.
<br\>
<br\>worse comes to worse- i'll write it all as a song file, but then i
<br\>lose the spontinaiety.
<br\>
<br\>i could probably post the files somewhere in this group if youd like
<br\>to take a listen with your emulators.
<br\>
<br\>thanks for letting me hijack the thread,
<br\>Thom
<br\>http://www.burnkit2600.com
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> That a diffrent progrm though... it uses the same basic beat data
<br\>but
<br\>> its played using the switches and not the same gui as synthcart...
<br\>> one could always use the sequencer and make their own songs, but it
<br\>> doesn't have the on the fly fun that synthcart has
<br\>>
<br\>> peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
new to the synthcart and was just wondering if this q & a means that
<br\>you can only perform with samples provided or you just can't edit the
<br\>beats.
<br\>
<br\>Q: Is there a sequencer or drum beat editor on the Synthcart?
<br\>A: No. There are 33 beats and they cannot be edited. There's not
<br\>really enough memory to have any proper sequencing. The Atari only
<br\>has 128 BYTES of RAM which I'm using all of. Plus there would be no
<br\>way to save your work when the Atari is turned off.
<br\>
<br\>dont have alot of money but want to make original music with the 2600
<br\>please someone help me!
<br\>
<br\>thanks
<br\>n'i'k'o'
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
does anyone know if mr paul slocum makes one for sale?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>You can already program your own beats with the Sequencer Kit that Paul
<br\>>released.  It doesn't have a WYSIWYG, but I remember hearing tell that
<br\>>someone is working on one?
<br\>
<br\>That's right, you can make your own beats using the kit we put together for
<br\>the original beat contest.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/features/contests/Synthcart/beatkit.zip
<br\>
<br\>This will run on a Supercharger if you got one.
<br\>
<br\>Eventually I definitely plan on making a beat editor that actually runs on
<br\>the Atari, but I've got too many other projects going on right now, so it
<br\>may be a few months.  Maybe I can get a little spare time and throw
<br\>together something sloppy sooner.
<br\>
<br\>I'll post the Synthcart source this weekend, then you'll be able to paste
<br\>your beats into the source and assemble a Synthcart with your own
<br\>beats.  Send the ROM to Albert and have a Synthcart made with your own beats.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Subject:
Re: attn: Paul - Beat Maker was Possible Contest Idea

Message:
<br\>
>I've messed around with the assembly files and found which bits of
<br\>>code effect the tempo, and that different amounts of text lines on
<br\>>the screen can alter the tempo as well. But I havent found anything
<br\>>that gets the loops to play in a usable tempo.
<br\>
<br\>I looked at the program and it wasn't displaying the correct number of
<br\>scanlines.  This will throw the tempo off.  I've attached a fixed version
<br\>of it with the tempo settings at the top of the file.  If the attachment
<br\>doesn't work, I'll post it in the files section of this group.
<br\>
<br\>I also added the Synthcart NTSC source code to my webpage:
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/synth.html
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
>new to the synthcart and was just wondering if this q & a means that
<br\>>you can only perform with samples provided or you just can't edit the
<br\>>beats.
<br\>
<br\>I'm not sure I understand you're question.  What do you mean by "samples
<br\>provided"?
<br\>
<br\>>dont have alot of money but want to make original music with the 2600
<br\>>please someone help me!
<br\>
<br\>You can also check out my sequencer kit (which is free to download
<br\>BTW).  If you get a Supercharger cartridge, you can program entire songs on
<br\>the Atari.
<br\>
<br\>The Synthcart is available at Atariage:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=101
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Slocum" <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >new to the synthcart and was just wondering if this q & a means
<br\>that
<br\>> >you can only perform with samples provided or you just can't edit
<br\>the
<br\>> >beats.
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm not sure I understand you're question.  What do you mean
<br\>by "samples
<br\>> provided"?
<br\>>
<br\>> >dont have alot of money but want to make original music with the
<br\>2600
<br\>> >please someone help me!
<br\>>
<br\>> You can also check out my sequencer kit (which is free to download
<br\>> BTW).  If you get a Supercharger cartridge, you can program entire
<br\>songs on
<br\>> the Atari.
<br\>>
<br\>> The Synthcart is available at Atariage:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=101
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>i guess by samples provided i really meant beat sequences....keep in
<br\>mind i have never seen or used this in person.
<br\>
<br\>thanks for the reply
<br\>
<br\>n'i'k'o'
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> i guess by samples provided i really meant beat sequences....keep in
<br\>> mind i have never seen or used this in person.
<br\>
<br\>Synthcart has six different "instrument" sounds as well as the "beatbox"
<br\>rythms that are built in.  There are 33 different rythm patterns but you
<br\>can't change them at present.  You can adjust the speed in BPM, and you
<br\>can also layer two rythms at once.
<br\>
<br\>I guess that in a way you could think of the Beatbox as being the drums in
<br\>a Casio keyboard - you can pick from the 33 different patterns, butyou
<br\>can't edit them with the cartridge alone.  In addition to layering sounds,
<br\>you can also switch around to other patterns while the beats are playing -
<br\>that's a way to add even more variety.
<br\>
<br\>You can also do a lot with the beats using external effects.  By gating
<br\>the atari output a bit, I got it to sound remarkably like real drums.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> thanks for the reply
<br\>
<br\>   Actually you've inspired me to finally finish the Synthcart FAQ that I
<br\>wrote some months ago but never put up.  I'll try to get it done this
<br\>weekend.
<br\>
<br\>-Bohus Blahut
<br\>  modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thank you very much Bohus
<br\>
<br\>putting it in those terms i completely understand...i was worried
<br\>even the voices were preprogramed meleodies sort of like the gameboy
<br\>music program (offical) that they had on the market.....i just cant
<br\>write original music with cutting up preprogramed sequences!... or
<br\>atleast try to aviod it.
<br\>
<br\>thanks again for the info!
<br\>
<br\>n'i'k'o'
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> > i guess by samples provided i really meant beat sequences....keep
<br\>in
<br\>> > mind i have never seen or used this in person.
<br\>>
<br\>> Synthcart has six different "instrument" sounds as well as
<br\>the "beatbox"
<br\>> rythms that are built in.  There are 33 different rythm patterns
<br\>but you
<br\>> can't change them at present.  You can adjust the speed in BPM, and
<br\>you
<br\>> can also layer two rythms at once.
<br\>>
<br\>> I guess that in a way you could think of the Beatbox as being the
<br\>drums in
<br\>> a Casio keyboard - you can pick from the 33 different patterns,
<br\>butyou
<br\>> can't edit them with the cartridge alone.  In addition to layering
<br\>sounds,
<br\>> you can also switch around to other patterns while the beats are
<br\>playing -
<br\>> that's a way to add even more variety.
<br\>>
<br\>> You can also do a lot with the beats using external effects.  By
<br\>gating
<br\>> the atari output a bit, I got it to sound remarkably like real
<br\>drums.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > thanks for the reply
<br\>>
<br\>>   Actually you've inspired me to finally finish the Synthcart FAQ
<br\>that I
<br\>> wrote some months ago but never put up.  I'll try to get it done
<br\>this
<br\>> weekend.
<br\>>
<br\>> -Bohus Blahut
<br\>>  modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>i guess by samples provided i really meant beat sequences....keep in
<br\>>mind i have never seen or used this in person.
<br\>
<br\>If you have a Windows PC you can try it out with the Z26 emulator:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.whimsey.com/z26/z26.html
<br\>
<br\>Or you might be able to get it to work on a Mac or Linux with Stella:
<br\>
<br\>http://sourceforge.net/projects/stella/
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> Thank you very much Bohus
<br\>
<br\>It's my pleasure.
<br\>
<br\>> putting it in those terms i completely understand...i was worried
<br\>> even the voices were preprogramed meleodies sort of like the gameboy
<br\>> music program (offical) that they had on the market.....i just cant
<br\>> write original music with cutting up preprogramed sequences!... or
<br\>> atleast try to aviod it.
<br\>
<br\>I see what you're saying.  I also have Pocket Music for Gameboy, and
<br\>you're right it's very difficult to be truly creative with it. It's nice
<br\>for what it is, and that non-musical folks have a chance to put together
<br\>something fun enough, but for real music it's hard to work that way.
<br\>
<br\>That's sort of the problem with Acid Music, but I have found that it's an
<br\>interesting program to use just to derive inspiration from.  I've also
<br\>used it just for it's drum loops, then I record on top of that.  Actually
<br\>for the couple thing I've done with Synthcart, I used Acid to record the
<br\>Beatbox rythms and just looped them there.  That's so I could do music in
<br\>layers.
<br\>
<br\>I hope that you're going to pick up a SYnthcart.  They're really
<br\>affordable, and have an awesome sound - especially when amplified.  I like
<br\>the GameBoy and C64 chip music that's out there but the Atari has a sound
<br\>even more unique than those devices... adn it's wicked cool besides.  :)
<br\>
<br\>-Bohus
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>and see about fixing this scaline problem in my beat files.
<br\>
<br\>I fixed the scanline problem in the new version I posted.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ok i understand what was happening now with the scanlines.
<br\>I'll have to dig into that code again tonight after work.
<br\>But now with the synthcart sourcecode, (and my cuttlecart) I might be
<br\>able to have a whole bank of custom beats ready in time for the show.
<br\>
<br\>Well, thanks a lot Paul, looks like I won't be sleeping tonight:)
<br\>
<br\>-thom
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Slocum" <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >and see about fixing this scaline problem in my beat files.
<br\>>
<br\>> I fixed the scanline problem in the new version I posted.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> But now with the synthcart sourcecode, (and my cuttlecart) I might be
<br\>> able to have a whole bank of custom beats ready in time for the show.
<br\>>
<br\>> Well, thanks a lot Paul, looks like I won't be sleeping tonight:)
<br\>>
<br\>> -thom
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>jesus christ I concur...
<br\>
<br\>thanks alot paul!
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey,
<br\>
<br\>Does anyone know how he can be contacted. I want to ask him about
<br\>putting his web synthcart beat creator back online...
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Does anyone know how he can be contacted. I want to ask him about
<br\>>putting his web synthcart beat creator back online...
<br\>
<br\>I just emailed him and it didn't bounce.  If he still has it, I'll put it
<br\>up on my page.
<br\>
<br\>And about getting a custom Synthcart ROM made into a cartridge:  You might
<br\>ask Albert (Atariage) to just send you a socketed 8K board with the EPROM
<br\>installed (no cartridge case/label/manual).  This way it'll be cheaper,
<br\>it's easier for Albert, and you can update it easily.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> I fixed the scanline problem in the new version I posted.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>yea - that fix worked great- my beats now run great on the emulators
<br\>and the real thing. thanks~!
<br\>
<br\>I spent some time this weeked importing new beat data into the
<br\>synthcart- then i realised i dont have the means to recomplile it
<br\>into a new .bin file. frustrating. what do i need to do?
<br\>
<br\>also - paul - i really enjoyed playing the synthcart demo that was at
<br\>the bentfest; someone had messed around with it and screwed it up,
<br\>but we got it working again. I liked the way the rhythms were
<br\>playable only when the pads were presesd and would like to experiment
<br\>with programming for that synthcart version as well. is it just a
<br\>matter of swapping a different .asm file?
<br\>
<br\>thanks for everything!
<br\>-thom
<br\>


Subject:
Re: source code - Re: Possible Contest Idea

Message:
<br\>
>I spent some time this weeked importing new beat data into the
<br\>>synthcart- then i realised i dont have the means to recomplile it
<br\>>into a new .bin file. frustrating. what do i need to do?
<br\>
<br\>You assemble it with DASM, and you'll need to put VCS.H in the same
<br\>folder.  I think the command line is:
<br\>
<br\>DASM snthcart.asm -f3 -osnthcart.bin
<br\>
<br\>You might want to read a little of 2600 101:
<br\>
<br\>http://alienbill.com/2600/101/
<br\>
<br\>There's a version of DASM included with the beat maker kit, but the latest
<br\>version or DASM and VCS.H are here:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.taswegian.com/TwoHeaded/Atari2600/dasm/
<br\>
<br\>>also - paul - i really enjoyed playing the synthcart demo that was at
<br\>>the bentfest; someone had messed around with it and screwed it up,
<br\>>but we got it working again. I liked the way the rhythms were
<br\>>playable only when the pads were presesd and would like to experiment
<br\>>with programming for that synthcart version as well. is it just a
<br\>>matter of swapping a different .asm file?
<br\>
<br\>Yeah, I'll dig out the source for that version.  That one starts up locked
<br\>in light show mode, has a much simpler interface and menus disabled, and
<br\>doesn't play the beats unless you hold the buttons down.  If you just want
<br\>the beat/button thing, then I'll see if I can add that mod to the Synthcart
<br\>source.  I also should add an assembler switch to turn off the menu sounds.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> You assemble it with DASM, and you'll need to put VCS.H in the same
<br\>> folder.  I think the command line is:
<br\>>
<br\>> DASM snthcart.asm -f3 -osnthcart.bin
<br\>
<br\>> You might want to read a little of 2600 101:
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>Youre right - i should read up on this stuff.
<br\>But at least I was headed in the right direction - I compared the
<br\>beat kit folder with the synthcart source folder and copied the files
<br\>over that were missing and changed the command line- but i forgot
<br\>about VCS.H! - that was the missing ingredient.
<br\>
<br\>sorry to have to bother you with these basic things, thanks for being
<br\>so supportive.
<br\>With all this new information youve made available now, youve
<br\>definitely taken the synthcart to a new level of usefulness.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Yeah, I'll dig out the source for that version.  That one starts up
<br\>locked
<br\>> in light show mode, has a much simpler interface and menus
<br\>disabled, and
<br\>> doesn't play the beats unless you hold the buttons down.  If you
<br\>just want
<br\>> the beat/button thing, then I'll see if I can add that mod to the
<br\>Synthcart
<br\>> source.  I also should add an assembler switch to turn off the menu
<br\>sounds.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>Since Burnkit2600 is a duo we usually will split the roles of rhythm
<br\>and melodies and do a lot of improvisation - so not having the beats
<br\>locked on would be a nice improvement- offering a lot more room for
<br\>rhythmic variation.
<br\>also- this version of the Synthcart could operate more like a drum
<br\>machine in that you could program bass drums, snare drums and hi-hats
<br\>to sound on every 8th, 16th and 32nd  note. then fire them off with
<br\>the keypad as a sort of tempo-quantized drum machine- much like an
<br\>old Mattell Synsonics drumbox. that would be very cool.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks again for your help Paul- this saturday's show is going to be
<br\>a blast now.
<br\>-thom
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>also- this version of the Synthcart could operate more like a drum
<br\>>machine in that you could program bass drums, snare drums and hi-hats
<br\>>to sound on every 8th, 16th and 32nd  note. then fire them off with
<br\>>the keypad as a sort of tempo-quantized drum machine- much like an
<br\>>old Mattell Synsonics drumbox. that would be very cool.
<br\>
<br\>Oh yeah that reminds me, that alternate synthcart also has basic "high hat"
<br\>support like the latest version of the sequencer kit.
<br\>
<br\>>Thanks again for your help Paul- this saturday's show is going to be
<br\>>a blast now.
<br\>
<br\>n/p.  Let me know how it goes.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
just when you think its all ironed out - its not.
<br\>Here's what's puzzling me.
<br\>
<br\>i open snthbeat.h - change 1 bit of information in a beat (beat A1,
<br\>beat A1fill, beat B1- whatever),
<br\>save it, re-assemble the .bin - and when i run it in the emulator its
<br\>corrupt.
<br\>
<br\>if i open snthbeat.h again - and change the bit back, it'll work
<br\>fine.
<br\>
<br\>whether i change sound type, pitch or accent, its screwed up.
<br\>
<br\>when i turn the corrupt .bin on, it plays a low-bass/pitfall sound-
<br\>just like if you start the real cartridge with no controllers in the
<br\>ports, so i'm guessing that somehow - changing the beat data is
<br\>making it disreguard the controllers?
<br\>
<br\>I havent tried the 'corrupt' .bin on the cuttlecart- but id expect
<br\>the same thing there.
<br\>
<br\>any idea whats happening here? its probably the simplest thing.
<br\>-thom
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>when i turn the corrupt .bin on, it plays a low-bass/pitfall sound-
<br\>>just like if you start the real cartridge with no controllers in the
<br\>>ports, so i'm guessing that somehow - changing the beat data is
<br\>>making it disreguard the controllers?
<br\>
<br\>Most of the emulators select the keyboard controllers automatically by
<br\>analyzing the ROM checksum.  If you change one bit, they won't recognize
<br\>the Synthcart anymore, so you'll have to manually tell the emulator to use
<br\>keyboard controllers.  You won't have this problem on the Cuttle Cart.
<br\>
<br\>-=paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>
<br\>> Most of the emulators select the keyboard controllers automatically
<br\>by
<br\>> analyzing the ROM checksum.  If you change one bit, they won't
<br\>recognize
<br\>> the Synthcart anymore, so you'll have to manually tell the emulator
<br\>to use
<br\>> keyboard controllers.  You won't have this problem on the Cuttle
<br\>Cart.
<br\>>
<br\>> -=paul
<br\>
<br\>yep that nailed it. damn - i knew it was something simple.
<br\>I diddn't know the emulators did that- i assumed the emulators used
<br\>whatever controls were neccessary all the time. but you know what
<br\>happens when you assume..
<br\>
<br\>anyway its lunchtime. thanks for the help.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi I am basically new to this... but I really want to make music with
<br\>my c64/128, 2600, and my guitar. Can anyone help me and give me an
<br\>idea how I would record this and what progs ect I would go about
<br\>using?
<br\>
<br\>Tannksssss!
<br\>
<br\>Bran
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
pan770 wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>Hi I am basically new to this... but I really want to make music with
<br\>>my c64/128, 2600, and my guitar. Can anyone help me and give me an
<br\>>idea how I would record this and what progs ect I would go about
<br\>>using?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     That's a pretty massive question, but you should be able to find
<br\>more answers by snooping around online - besides, that sort of home work
<br\>is fun!  :)
<br\>
<br\>     I'll get you started.  Synthcart is pretty much the only way to make
<br\>music on the 2600 .  The other ways are to just record sounds from games
<br\>that  you like and build sequences with them in your computer.   If you
<br\>loop your 2600 through a VCR (instructions at www.atariage.com) then
<br\>you can record the  audio output via the VCR's RCA jacks.  Otherwise
<br\>you'll have to modify your 2600 with instructions from Atari Age as
<br\>well.  You can buy Synthcart there too.
<br\>
<br\>      The C64 has countless programs for making music.  Some treat the
<br\>C64 as a live instrument, even going as far as including full sized
<br\>keyboard add-ons (quite rare).  Other software turns the C64 into a
<br\>multi-track "tracker" style sequencer.  Learn more at
<br\>www.micromusic.net, www.scene.org, or www.lemon64.com.  The C64 has an
<br\>audio output, so it's easy to record the results.
<br\>
<br\>     Have some new music for us when you come back!  ;)
<br\>
<br\>-Bohus Blahut
<br\>  Modern Filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
There's also the Atari 2600 sequencer kit.  It's a lot more difficult to
<br\>use than the synthcart (programming experience helps) but it allows you to
<br\>write full songs and design your own beats etc. on the 2600.  And you'll
<br\>need a Supercharger cartridge (can be found on Ebay) to get your sequencer
<br\>kit songs running on a real Atari.
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/sequencer.html
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
---
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>     That's a pretty massive question, but you should be able to find
<br\>> m
<br\>>      The C64 has countless programs for making music.  Some treat the
<br\>> C64 as a live instrument, even going as far as including full sized
<br\>> keyboard add-ons (quite rare).  Other software turns the C64 into a
<br\>> multi-track "tracker" style sequencer.  Learn more at
<br\>> www.micromusic.net, www.scene.org, or www.lemon64.com.  The C64 has an
<br\>> audio output, so it's easy to record the results.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Let's not forget the preimier chipmusic resource site ever:
<br\>
<br\>www.vorc.org
<br\>
<br\>And since you are recording live insturments you might want to check out
<br\>
<br\>kvr-vst.com for vsti synths and hosts (many freeware)
<br\>
<br\>and
<br\>
<br\>http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/
<br\>
<br\>for a great free multitrack recorder.
<br\>
<br\>While im at it, im working ona chiptune cd-r comp that was origonaly
<br\>going to be just gameboy but Im throwing it open to other platforms.
<br\>The only rules is that the song must take a political stance of ANY kind.
<br\>
<br\>contact me for more info
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>kradlabs.home.comcast.net
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks for all of your help guys!!
<br\>One other thing... what tracker progs are there for c64?
<br\>.. I know most ppl feel one should research before asking easy/stupid
<br\>questions but I really dont have the time to do research at the
<br\>moment. Barely have internet access right now.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Disabled posting for this user.  Hope this doesn't keep up and we have to
<br\>make this a moderated group.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>on 6\2\04 7:37 PM, Paul Slocum at paul@treewave.com wrote:

<br\>

<br\> Disabled posting for this user. Hope this doesn't keep up and we have to

<br\>make this a moderated group.

<br\>

<br\>-paul

<br\>

<br\>Kudos to that!

<br\>BTW if you guys wanna increase the size of your Synthcart up to 3 inches, just check out

<br\>www.spacemanrecords.com

<br\>

<br\>


<br\>                                                   -jones 

<br\>

<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> Disabled posting for this user.  Hope this doesn't keep up and we
<br\>have to
<br\>> make this a moderated group.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>I would probaly insititue approval being needed before posting for the
<br\>first time....
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>ps: good catch paul!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've been seeing those spams on other listservs I'm on
<br\>through Yahoo groups, too.  What always tweaks me out
<br\>about them is that there's that "disclaimer" at the
<br\>end that tries to pass off the responsibility for the
<br\>message onto the list itself, as though it's the
<br\>list's fault for letting them post that horsecrap on
<br\>there in the first place.  Unreal; them's some big
<br\>cojones there.
<br\>
<br\>Ken
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
I chanced on two keyboard controllers for a dollar at a thrift
<br\>store.  After opening one up and realizing the simplicity of its
<br\>circuits I've realized that even me (an idiot) could wire them into
<br\>something else.  I also have a rad but ultimately lame sounding toy
<br\>keytar that's perfect for the project I'm going to attempt.  It's
<br\>called a Tyco Hot Keyz for anyone who wants to search for it on
<br\>the 'net.  Anyway, to make a long story shorter this toy keytar is
<br\>big enough to look cool in an adult's (I'm 20) hands and has
<br\>something that is key....a double keyboard; one for the right hand,
<br\>one for the left.  It also looks like a lightning bolt.
<br\>Unfortunetely it only has eight keys on each side so I'm planning on
<br\>just installing four more buttons below where each keyboard ends.
<br\>The other keys I'll have pushing the buttons to keep the usefulness
<br\>of them.  Ok, I'm lazy and stuff so this may take some time.  Does
<br\>anyone have any suggestions.  I have one question in particular.
<br\>Does anyone know a site where I can buy really cheap push-buttons?
<br\>They're like 3 dollars or something at radio shack.  I have to buy 24
<br\>of them for this.  All right, peace.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
it'd be really awesome if you built it all into one unit. i'm
<br\>guessing there's no way to fit it all, though. a portable, battery
<br\>powered 2600 keytar! i thought about doing this and possibly wearing
<br\>the 2600 on my back and routing all the switches to the front of the
<br\>controller. ghostbusters style. i'm a total dork.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "2wm" <killradio_13@y...> wrote:
<br\>> it'd be really awesome if you built it all into one unit. i'm
<br\>> guessing there's no way to fit it all,
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/QuestionSLICE.htm
<br\>
<br\>There might be :)
<br\>
<br\>though. a portable, battery
<br\>> powered 2600 keytar! i thought about doing this and possibly wearing
<br\>> the 2600 on my back and routing all the switches to the front of the
<br\>> controller. ghostbusters style. i'm a total dork.
<br\>>
<br\>> --2wm
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Ive toyed with the ideas of doing somethng like this, but really want
<br\>to keep the atari in its reconizable shell... basically to ellicit
<br\>repsonses like "Whoa... is that dood playing a fuckin atari?!?!"
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've looked at the VCS portable site and I'm pretty sure that it
<br\>would all fit into the Hot Keyz if hacked down.  That would be pretty
<br\>rad.  What would be cool is if it was then painted and given an Atari
<br\>looking theme, complete with a wood panel strip or something.  I may
<br\>try to do that some day but for now I'm sticking with simply
<br\>modifying a controller.  Or, I think that portable guy does custom
<br\>jobs.  I am a poor college student though.  I'm pretty new to
<br\>soldering so I doubt I'd be able to get the Atari into the keytar
<br\>myself.  I'll keep ya posted on the status of my endeavour.  I think
<br\>I'm going to go gut the hot keyz right now actually...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Paul wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>I've looked at the VCS portable site and I'm pretty sure that it
<br\>>would all fit into the Hot Keyz if hacked down.  That would be pretty
<br\>>rad.
<br\>>
<br\>     Agreed, but it represents a LOT of work.  Ben lays it out pretty
<br\>simply though...
<br\>
<br\>>What would be cool is if it was then painted and given an Atari
<br\>>looking theme, complete with a wood panel strip or something.
<br\>>
<br\>     Anything else would be a crime.  :)
<br\>
<br\>>Or, I think that portable guy does custom
<br\>>jobs.  I am a poor college student though.
<br\>>
<br\>     Ben's time is pretty limited, but I'd bet he'd be interested in
<br\>doing some custom work, but it would be pretty pricey.  Mind you, you'd
<br\>be getting something damn cool, but Ben's top-notch methods come at a price.
<br\>
<br\>>I'm pretty new to
<br\>>soldering so I doubt I'd be able to get the Atari into the keytar
<br\>>myself.  I'll keep ya posted on the status of my endeavour.
<br\>>
<br\>     That would be awesome.  I was thinking of doing something similar,
<br\>but way simpler i.e. just putting a guitar neck onto a 2600 and
<br\>strapping it on.  There would be lots of room on the neck of the thing
<br\>for volume controls, maybe even on/off switches for reverb and stuff...
<br\>
<br\>>I think
<br\>>I'm going to go gut the hot keyz right now actually...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     I've heard a lot of people like those as-is, or maybe I'm thinking
<br\>of a different fake electric guitar.  There was one that took cartridges
<br\>with extra songs on it, and I think that it had actual strings to
<br\>strum.   Gosh, what was it called?
<br\>
<br\>-Bohus
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
sorry if im beating a dead horse, or missed a post - but have you
<br\>had any time to put cynthcart on some eproms?  i can put the eprom
<br\>in a cart, no problem - i just dont have access to an eprom blower,
<br\>or know anyone who will do it for less than i could buy a prom
<br\>writer (which is more than i care to spend).  im itching to try
<br\>cynthcart out on the real c64, boo yah!!
<br\>
<br\>peace in the middle east
<br\>seth
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>sorry if im beating a dead horse, or missed a post - but have you
<br\>>had any time to put cynthcart on some eproms?  i can put the eprom
<br\>>in a cart, no problem - i just dont have access to an eprom blower,
<br\>>or know anyone who will do it for less than i could buy a prom
<br\>>writer (which is more than i care to spend).  im itching to try
<br\>>cynthcart out on the real c64, boo yah!!
<br\>
<br\>They should be available on carts really soon.  If you have a datasette,
<br\>the last track on my band's album that's coming out next week will have the
<br\>audio data.  ;o) (http://treewave.com)
<br\>
<br\>Back before I had a burner, I found a couple of local electronics stores
<br\>that were willing to do it for a reasonable price.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> They should be available on carts really soon.  If you have a
<br\>datasette,
<br\>> the last track on my band's album that's coming out next week will
<br\>have the
<br\>> audio data.  ;o) (http://treewave.com)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Does this man the board supplier I posted a few weeks back turned out
<br\>to be a good source for pcb?
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Does this man the board supplier I posted a few weeks back turned out
<br\>>to be a good source for pcb?
<br\>
<br\>I haven't had a chance to fully check the board out yet, but it looks
<br\>good.  And their cases are nice too.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
dataset!  kick ass!  let me know when the album is out!!!
<br\>seth
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've been learning to program 2600 beats for the last month now & I made a chart
<br\>to ease
<br\>the process of composing(it's posted in the files section).  Right now it only
<br\>has space for
<br\>2 instruments per pattern- but this is the VCS we're talking about... less is
<br\>more.  I mainly
<br\>use the Atari for drums, so the chart is styled like a beat sequencer.  If
<br\>anyone has any
<br\>suggestions for modifications, lemme know!
<br\>
<br\>-sean
<br\>
<br\>p.s. i stole a graphic from qotile.net, Paul- hope you don't mind!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I've been learning to program 2600 beats for the last month now & I made a
<br\>>chart to ease
<br\>>the process of composing(it's posted in the files section).
<br\>
<br\>Looks cool.  Hopefully one of these days I'll get around to writing a 2600
<br\>groove sequencer so you don't have to do it all by hand.  And I can't
<br\>remember if I posed this, but Fabrizio got back to me and said he'd try to
<br\>get his front end for the sequencer kit ready for public release pretty soon.
<br\>
<br\>The chart is in the Synthcart Group files section:
<br\>
<br\>http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/synthcart/files/
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey,
<br\>
<br\>Do you need Drum samples for your music projects? We have a site
<br\>where you can download thousands of professional drum and instrument
<br\>samples here: http://www.beatsamples.com
<br\>
<br\>Ron
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
BANNED
<br\>
<br\>There are no off topic solicitations allowed on this list. This a new
<br\>arbitary decision by me. From now on, new memnber new to be approved
<br\>by a moderator before they can join. Anyone who feels they are
<br\>unfairly banned under this new draconian measure can email to argue
<br\>their case
<br\>
<br\>Signed,
<br\>The Management
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "beatsamples" <mpc@b...> wrote:
<br\>> Hey,
<br\>>
<br\>> Do you need Drum samples for your music projects? We have a site
<br\>> where you can download thousands of professional drum and instrument
<br\>> samples here: http://www.beatsamples.com
<br\>>
<br\>> Ron
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>dataset!  kick ass!  let me know when the album is out!!!
<br\>
<br\>They album's out now :o)
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=285
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Slocum" <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >dataset!  kick ass!  let me know when the album is out!!!
<br\>>
<br\>> They album's out now :o)
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=285
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>And the media blitz begins!!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0406190156jun19,1,1832416.story
<br\>
<br\>Registration required!
<br\>
<br\>  TECHNOLOGY
<br\>Alternative music takes on a whole new meaning
<br\>Musicians experiment with sounds made by altered printers, vintage
<br\>game consoles and even programmable Furby toys
<br\>
<br\>By Doug Bedell
<br\>The Dallas Morning News
<br\>Published June 19, 2004
<br\>
<br\>Ask Dallas musician Paul Slocum to name his favorite instrument, and
<br\>he'll probably answer, "My 1985 Epson dot matrix printer." The
<br\>29-year-old erstwhile computer programmer takes vintage electronics
<br\>and modifies their programming to produce unusual sounds that he
<br\>weaves into original music.
<br\>
<br\>Together with his girlfriend, Lauren Gray, Slocum is gathering notice
<br\>as Tree Wave (www.treewave.com). All performances are produced with
<br\>scavenged and "modded" electronic components--a 1977 Atari 2600 game
<br\>console, 1986 portable 286 PC, a 1983 Commodore 64 computer and the
<br\>printer.
<br\>
<br\>Gray blends her lilting, ethereal voice into the bass, drum and melody
<br\>lines programmed into the PC and Commodore by Slocum. The Atari
<br\>produces colorful, dancing video collages that are projected onto club
<br\>walls or portable televisions. In the background, the Epson printer
<br\>head creates buzzing, guitarlike riffs as it prints out images.
<br\>
<br\>In its broadest sense, the printer may be considered part of an
<br\>unusual niche in modern electronic music called "circuit bending."
<br\>Participants of varying technical abilities take old battery-powered
<br\>devices--Speak & Spell toys, Game Boys, Furby dolls (see
<br\>http://hackfurby.com), Coleco Talking Teachers--crack them open, and
<br\>experiment with ways their circuitry can produce sounds.
<br\>
<br\>At the low-tech end, circuit benders bridge contact points or short
<br\>out a gadget's mainboard, then figure out ways to pipe the resulting
<br\>sounds through amplifiers.
<br\>
<br\>"The most common thing is to put wires where they're not supposed to
<br\>be and put switches between them," Slocum said. "Or you tap into the
<br\>electronics and create a little audio-out, something like that. A lot
<br\>of times people who do that stuff are just playing around until they
<br\>find something interesting.
<br\>
<br\>"The nice thing about it is that you don't have to have any technical
<br\>expertise, and it's kind of fun, I guess. But the potential for making
<br\>music with it is limited."
<br\>
<br\>Circuit benders from across the globe congregate in online discussion
<br\>groups to share information on sounds they've created out of all sorts
<br\>of gizmos.
<br\>
<br\>"The only problem with circuit bending is that it's so hard to
<br\>control," Slocum said. "It's so hard to make music that's not just noise."
<br\>
<br\>Rather than let the modified machines dictate the musical output,
<br\>Slocum controls his machines with detailed electronic programming.
<br\>Only minor physical modifications are used.
<br\>
<br\>The Epson printer head, for example, produces sounds by striking paper
<br\>based on how Slocum manipulates a box of push buttons connected to the
<br\>printer's font cartridge.
<br\>
<br\>"It took me probably about three months to get it to do what I
<br\>wanted," he said. "Now it's evolved into kind of an art installation
<br\>piece."
<br\>
<br\>The Epson was featured in April's Bent 2004 circuit-benders show in
<br\>New York City. Slocum has just been invited to Denmark to speak about
<br\>his Epson instrument and its music.
<br\>
<br\>Tree Wave is largely a labor of love for the Dallas couple.
<br\>
<br\>But some circuit benders--including Waterhed
<br\>(www.billtmiller.com/circuitbending/waterhed)--make their livings
<br\>scrounging for cheap electronics on eBay, hacking them to produce new
<br\>noises and selling their creations to musicians.
<br\>
<br\>One pioneer, New York-based artist Reed Ghazala, has circuit-bent
<br\>instruments on display at the New York Museum of Modern Art, the
<br\>Guggenheim and the Whitney's permanent collections.
<br\>
<br\>Ghazala also has built experimental instruments for Tom Waits, Peter
<br\>Gabriel, King Crimson's Pat Mastalotto, Faust and other artists.
<br\>
<br\>Slocum doesn't anticipate fame. "But I tend to think this sort of
<br\>thing ought to be growing more than it has," he said.
<br\>
<br\>For now, he's moving on to his next mod project--an automatic bank
<br\>teller machine that he's ripping apart on his office floor.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>*/***************
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>So paul.. whaddup with the bank machine? :)
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:

<br\>
<br\>
<br\> They album's out now :o)
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=285
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>

<br\>
<br\>And the media blitz begins!!
<br\>

<br\>    I've got the EP - it rocks... and not just because my name's in
<br\>it.  :)

<br\>

<br\> -- Bohus Blahut
<br\>(BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
The EP is great. I can't believe how much stuff you fit on the disc,
<br\>too. Videos are very cool.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Wiley Wiggins <weevil@w...> wrote:
<br\>> The EP is great. I can't believe how much stuff you fit on the disc,
<br\>> too. Videos are very cool.
<br\>
<br\>Agreed! reminds of the old days when cds had tons of extras...
<br\>
<br\>i should put a cd=g section on my next cd ;/
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Agreed! reminds of the old days when cds had tons of extras...
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     Yeah!  I'm surprised that no one is waxing nostalgic about CD
<br\>longboxes (that were unrecyclable I might remind you...)
<br\>
<br\>>i should put a cd=g section on my next cd ;/
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     I have created a couple of CD+G discs of my stuff.  Karaoke CD's use
<br\>CD+G, and you have to get special software to author the Karaoke file
<br\>format i.e. putting text in synch with music.  The software is pretty
<br\>expensive for what it does... the pro versions cost a couple grand.  Not
<br\>only is the software hard to get, but very few CD-R's burn the right format.
<br\>
<br\>     It's easy to see why people prefer enhancedCD today since you can
<br\>access all that material on a computer instead of trying to find a
<br\>device that will play CD+G today.
<br\>
<br\>     So if you do decide to do a CD with CD+G, you might want to get in
<br\>touch with me since I've done all the legwork already.  :)
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
BTW:  It's really easy to get a CD Extra pressed.  You just burn it and
<br\>they'll press it at no extra cost.  And I just used the crappy burning
<br\>program that came with my drive!
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/22/1725214&mode=thread&tid=127&ti\
<br\>d=141&tid=186&tid=188&tid=202
<br\>
<br\>(alternatively you can just search "Tree Wave")
<br\>
<br\>Hey, everybody get registered and post your Synthcart love on Slashdot!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
While I was looking for a setup that I could make a Cynthcart from I found a
<br\>magicdesk cart that I think may have been destroyed in the process in
<br\>disassembling
<br\>it.  then I found a pcb that said it would work with 8 k eproms (alphaworks)but
<br\>then I
<br\>noticed that cynthcart is 12k.  will it work?  what chip will work? Is there any
<br\>companies you know of that will burn eproms at a decent price? - KBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>While I was looking for a setup that I could make a Cynthcart from I found a
<br\>>magicdesk cart that I think may have been destroyed in the process in
<br\>>disassembling
<br\>>it.  then I found a pcb that said it would work with 8 k eproms
<br\>>(alphaworks)but then I
<br\>>noticed that cynthcart is 12k.  will it work?  what chip will work? Is
<br\>>there any
<br\>>companies you know of that will burn eproms at a decent price? - KBud
<br\>
<br\>The Cynthcart is only 8k.  CRT files have a big header on them, and I can't
<br\>remember how big it is.  You'll probably want to use the disk image which
<br\>only has a 2 byte header (just a pointer where to load in memory).  They'll
<br\>work with Magic Desk, and seem to work okay with the Alphaworks board,
<br\>although I haven't tested it thoroughly yet.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
does anyone know where i could get blank carts like the ones sold for
<br\>colecovision and 2600 that atari age has? or a smaller company like
<br\>the one that makes the ones for commodore? if anyone can help i would
<br\>appreciate it
<br\>-eddie
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
My understanding is that INTV has a weird cartridge format that is
<br\>difficult to duplicate (requires special EPROMs or extra hardware.)  So I'm
<br\>not sure if such a thing exists, but you might try the INTVPROG yahoo group.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
likeallthelights wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>does anyone know where i could get blank carts like the ones sold for
<br\>>colecovision and 2600 that atari age has? or a smaller company like
<br\>>the one that makes the ones for commodore? if anyone can help i would
<br\>>appreciate it
<br\>>
<br\>     You might want to put up a post on www.digitpress.com since that
<br\>board has a lot of Intellivision fans around.  You could also drop a
<br\>line to the guys at www.blueskyrangers.com, a group made up of many of
<br\>the original Intellivision programmers.  They might have some kind of
<br\>insight on where to turn for that kind of stuff.
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Intellivisions carts are 10 bits wide
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>---------------------------------
<br\>My understanding is that INTV has a weird cartridge format that is
<br\>difficult to duplicate (requires special EPROMs or extra hardware.)  So I'm
<br\>not sure if such a thing exists, but you might try the INTVPROG yahoo group.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
<br\>=====
<br\>
<br\>what part of sin (w + i sin (w r)) do you not understand?
<br\>[reverse engineers]
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
<br\>http://au.movies.yahoo.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I just sold off my intellivision collection minus one cart that had a broken
<br\>housing,
<br\>the cart pcb itself works and is in great condition.  I think it is the skiing
<br\>game or
<br\>something the carts are amazingly simple looking just the rom and the pcb.  let
<br\>me
<br\>know if you want it to screw around with. - KBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello I was wondering if anyone would be willing to burn cynthcart for me onto
<br\>an
<br\>eprom??? - KBud
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Any one have an eprom burner? Cynthcart

Message:
<br\>
I do and would be willing to help as long as it's okay with Paul.  :)
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>____________________________________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>
<br\>On Jul 29, 2004, at 9:21 PM, kbudd777 wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Hello I was wondering if anyone would be willing to burn cynthcart for
<br\>> me onto an
<br\>> eprom??? - KBud
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Would you want me to pay you for use of your software so I can have
<br\>austinvideogames burn me an eprom? - KBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
kbudd777 wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>Would you want me to pay you for use of your software so I can have
<br\>>austinvideogames burn me an eprom? - KBud
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     If you were to buy the Treewave album from AtariAge.com, that has
<br\>the C64 synth program on the CD.  Then I don't think there would be any
<br\>problem in Albert burning you a ROM.  Then everyone wins, right?
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i was going to get it anyway since it is great -KBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@a...> wrote:
<br\>> I do and would be willing to help as long as it's okay with Paul.  :)
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>Does ths means atari will start selling c64 boards :)))))
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>> kbudd777 wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Would you want me to pay you for use of your software so I can have
<br\>> >austinvideogames burn me an eprom? - KBud
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>     If you were to buy the Treewave album from AtariAge.com, that has
<br\>> the C64 synth program on the CD.  Then I don't think there would be any
<br\>> problem in Albert burning you a ROM.  Then everyone wins, right?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Sorry to double post but that would be a great add-on for the site...
<br\>add some $$$ and get the rom with the cd!
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: Any one have an eprom burner? Cynthcart

Message:
<br\>
>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Albert Yarusso <albert@a...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>>I do and would be willing to help as long as it's okay with Paul.  :)
<br\>>>
<br\>>Does ths means atari will start selling c64 boards :)))))
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     I think that Atari Age already carries some games for other systems
<br\>- which is pretty smart if you asked me.  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>     If you were to buy the Treewave album from AtariAge.com, that has
<br\>>the C64 synth program on the CD.  Then I don't think there would be any
<br\>>problem in Albert burning you a ROM.  Then everyone wins, right?
<br\>
<br\>sorry was out of town.  haha, yeah that's a good idea -- buy the CD and you
<br\>can get an EPROM too (and any future updates to the software).
<br\>
<br\>And I'll talk to Albert about providing a complete package with the board
<br\>and everything.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Simon Quernhorst has a 2600 demo he's going to display at some demo show in
<br\>Europe, and he wants music for it.  he asked me but I don't have time to do
<br\>it right now.  If anyone has a song or wants to do a song with the 2600
<br\>sequencer kit for Simon to possibly use in the demo, contact him at:
<br\>simon.quernhorst@gmx.de
<br\>
<br\>here's the demo:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53745
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
...in development:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55194
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> ...in development:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55194
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>Cool.. any idea what was(is) the status of the first one?
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Cool.. any idea what was(is) the status of the first one?
<br\>
<br\>Fabrizio got busy with other projects, but he says he's still going to
<br\>finish it eventually.  The last version he sent me was actually kind of
<br\>working.  I'll email him and ask if I can go ahead and post it somewhere.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
here's a Synthcart track by Receptors' lo-bit side-project Mommy Was
<br\>an Asteroid...it's performed w no edits on an Atari 2600 Jr and a
<br\>couple of kids controllers thru the vcr & tv...ahem,consider any
<br\>noise an electro punk minimalist thing...  ;/
<br\>
<br\>http://receptorsmusic.com  (go to the audio page...)
<br\>
<br\>thanks
<br\>jeremy ksine
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>here's a Synthcart track by Receptors' lo-bit side-project Mommy Was
<br\>>an Asteroid...it's performed w no edits on an Atari 2600 Jr and a
<br\>>couple of kids controllers thru the vcr & tv...ahem,consider any
<br\>>noise an electro punk minimalist thing...  ;/
<br\>
<br\>it's great, thanks for posting.  :o)  I like the Gameboy stuff too.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


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<br\>
. . . as a device / adaptor / transcoder / whatever that can take the
<br\>2600's RF output at one end (at least I think it's RF) and spit out
<br\>composite video and L & R audio RCA plugs at the other end?  Ideally
<br\>this magical device would be small, portable, and inexpensive, although
<br\>I'd settle for just the first two.
<br\>
<br\>- Josh the Technologically Ignorant
<br\>


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<br\>
Bit Shifter >> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>. . . as a device / adaptor / transcoder / whatever that can take the
<br\>>2600's RF output at one end (at least I think it's RF)
<br\>>
<br\>     The 2600's signal is indeed RF... the crummiest variant of our
<br\>venerable NTSC signal.  :)
<br\>
<br\>>and spit out
<br\>>composite video and L & R audio RCA plugs at the other end?
<br\>>
<br\>     It depends what you're trying to do.  If you're just trying to hook
<br\>up your Atari to a TV that has no RF input, you can plug the Atari into
<br\>a VCR and use its output jacks to go to the TV.  Besides convenience,
<br\>you won't gain anything since the RF wire has all the audio and video
<br\>mooshed together.  Your VCR will not be able to split out separate Left
<br\>and Right signals.   You can pick up VCR's for $5 at practically any
<br\>thrift store.
<br\>
<br\>      There are standalone devices that do the opposite i.e. take RCA
<br\>inputs and modulate them into an RF output.  They sell these at Target
<br\>around this time of year for college kids so that they can hook up their
<br\>snazzy new DVD player to the old TV set that they found in the trash.
<br\>For some reason, going from RF to RCA output just isn't done... at least
<br\>not cheaply.
<br\>
<br\>     If your goal is to get separate Left and Right audio output and
<br\>clean video output, you've got to modify the Atari itself.  Since the RF
<br\>wore has all the signals combined together, the modifications that
<br\>you'll find online intercept the internal video signal before it gets to
<br\>the RF thereby giving you the best possible A/V.  If you want to see a
<br\>comprehensive comparison between the various modifications out there, go
<br\>to: http://www.cheeptech.com/2600mods/2600mods.shtml
<br\>
<br\>     You know, I just gotta finish the Synthcart FAQ - it's been almost
<br\>done for months.  It would answer all of these great questions!  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


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<br\>
>      There are standalone devices that do the opposite i.e. take RCA
<br\>>inputs and modulate them into an RF output.
<br\>
<br\>They do actually make RF demodulators, but you have to order them.  It's
<br\>basically a tiny TV tuner permanently tuned to channel 3.  I have one and
<br\>it works well.  But I haven't found one for less than around $50.  I swear
<br\>I once read about someone who had found a place that sells them online for
<br\>$20-$30, but I never could find it.  This is the one I have (and it was
<br\>only $50 when I got it):
<br\>
<br\>http://mcm.newark.com/NewarkWebCommerce/mcm/en_US/support/catalog/productDetail.\
<br\>jsp?id=33-2060
<br\>
<br\>Note that I just used the video part of the demodulator.  I did my own
<br\>audio mod to put a 1/4" audio out on the back of my 2600. (using Ben
<br\>Heckendorn's page).  DIY audio out is much easier than DIY video out.
<br\>
<br\>>to: http://www.cheeptech.com/2600mods/2600mods.shtml
<br\>
<br\>That's a good site.  I bought the Cybertech mod which is around $50 and
<br\>still requires installation and a little bit of soldering, but the video is
<br\>crystal clear.  It's excellent for using the 2600 with a video projector or
<br\>video capture card.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


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<br\>
Thank you, Mr Slocum!!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >here's a Synthcart track by Receptors' lo-bit side-project Mommy
<br\>Was
<br\>> >an Asteroid...it's performed w no edits on an Atari 2600 Jr and a
<br\>> >couple of kids controllers thru the vcr & tv...ahem,consider any
<br\>> >noise an electro punk minimalist thing...  ;/
<br\>>
<br\>> it's great, thanks for posting.  :o)  I like the Gameboy stuff too.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


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<br\>
Hey Bohus & Paul -- thanks for the info.  A VCR is a
<br\>great idea (hadn't even thought of that) except for
<br\>the portability issue.  I'm basically trying to
<br\>achieve a general preparedness for taking the 2600
<br\>and/or a recently-acquired Atari Video Music unit with
<br\>me to performances and to not have to worry about
<br\>whether or not the venue can accommodate RF video
<br\>input for their projectors or displays.  But this info
<br\>is very helpful -- I may try a combination of the RF
<br\>demodulator that you'd mentioned, Paul, and modding
<br\>the 2600 for clean & discrete audio output.
<br\>
<br\>Now, veering into similar but off-topic territory --
<br\>is there any such thing as a multi-input,
<br\>single-output A/V switchbox that can accept & handle
<br\>RF inputs in addition to composite video?  In this
<br\>instance I just want to achieve a long-standing dream
<br\>of having a multi-console gaming rig in my living
<br\>room.
<br\>
<br\>Josh
<br\>


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<br\>
Bit Shifter >> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>Hey Bohus & Paul -- thanks for the info.  A VCR is a
<br\>>great idea (hadn't even thought of that) except for
<br\>>the portability issue.
<br\>>
<br\>     Don't forget that there were also VCP's out there which only play
<br\>VHS and don't record.  Sometimes those are smaller, but still have the
<br\>demodulator circuits that you need.
<br\>
<br\>>for taking the 2600
<br\>>and/or a recently-acquired Atari Video Music unit with
<br\>>me to performances and to not have to worry about
<br\>>whether or not the venue can accommodate RF video
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     The AVM is going to be your bug-a-boo especially.  There is a video
<br\>output hack for it online, but I haven't tried it because the AVM was so
<br\>expensive.  I'll eventually get up enough courage to do it.  Plugging
<br\>into a VCR at the venue is the way to go with that thing - i you ask
<br\>them about RF they're likely to not know what you're talking about.
<br\>
<br\>>I may try a combination of the RF
<br\>>demodulator that you'd mentioned, Paul, and modding
<br\>>the 2600 for clean & discrete audio output.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     I have to heartily recommend hacking the Atari.  The Cybertech mod
<br\>is going to cost you about the same as the RF demodulator thing, and
<br\>also give you separate outputs for each of the oscillators.   That's how
<br\>I have mine, and it's awesome to be able to different effects to each
<br\>sound i.e. a little gate on the Beatbox, a little reverb on the lead, etc.
<br\>
<br\>>Now, veering into similar but off-topic territory --
<br\>>is there any such thing as a multi-input,
<br\>>single-output A/V switchbox that can accept & handle
<br\>>RF inputs in addition to composite video?
<br\>>
<br\>     Radio Shack used to sell something like this; an RF switchbox.  It
<br\>was for flipping between cable TV, antenna and videogame on your
<br\>television.  I'm sure that they still have them, but I haven't seen them
<br\>for more than 3-4 connections.  I do have an old RF switchbox from back
<br\>in the day for doing what you're looking for.  It's got like six or
<br\>eight hookups, is all woodgrain, and has all the retro gaming streetcred
<br\>you'll ever need.  :)
<br\>
<br\>     My goal is to eventually have a setup like this, but with hacked
<br\>consoles so that they all have S-video outputs.  The RF is just so noisy
<br\>and the cables are always messed up so that if someone in your building
<br\>opens a door or sneezes, it'll screw up your picture.  Can't say that
<br\>I'm really far along this goal though...  :)
<br\>
<br\>>In this
<br\>>instance I just want to achieve a long-standing dream
<br\>>of having a multi-console gaming rig in my living
<br\>>room.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     Ah, every man's dream...  :)  My twist on this is that I'd like all
<br\>the consoles to be inside some sort of cabinet with a motorized
<br\>apparatus (like those things that they have at jewelery stores) that
<br\>would let you bring the console you want to play to the top.  Insane, I
<br\>know, but if nothing else it would be a hell of an heirloom once I die.  :)
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


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<br\>
>     Radio Shack used to sell something like this; an RF switchbox.  It
<br\>>was for flipping between cable TV, antenna and videogame on your
<br\>>television.
<br\>
<br\>I don't think they sell them anymore, but they're on Ebay all the time.  I
<br\>got one at closeout at RadioShack about a year ago and it's got 5 ins and 3
<br\>outs, plus it's amplified.  I use those F->RCA adapters (you can get em
<br\>from Atariage) to go straight into the box from my consoles and then
<br\>straight into my TV using a regular coax.
<br\>
<br\>I've heard you can also use an A/V box w/ RCA connectors to switch your RF
<br\>consoles, but I'm not sure if the picture will be as good since it's not
<br\>designed for RF.
<br\>
<br\>The other day I saw a coax switch box like that at a thrift that had one
<br\>RCA input on it specifically marked for a video game system.  Pretty cool.  :o)
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


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<br\>
> >
<br\>>     I have to heartily recommend hacking the Atari.  The Cybertech mod
<br\>> is going to cost you about the same as the RF demodulator thing, and
<br\>> also give you separate outputs for each of the oscillators.   That's
<br\>how
<br\>> I have mine, and it's awesome to be able to different effects to each
<br\>> sound i.e. a little gate on the Beatbox, a little reverb on the
<br\>lead, etc.
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>And like it has been said, the audio out part is trivial if you want
<br\>mono, and only slightly more diffcult for stereo, and mono/stereo
<br\>capability.
<br\>
<br\>I havent done the video mod yet cause i have havent done it yet...
<br\>
<br\>I suck at surface companat soldering, but hacking cables for audio is
<br\>easy, let me know if you need help doing one.
<br\>
<br\>ill give you my rca modded atari jr if I mess it up :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> for more than 3-4 connections.  I do have an old RF switchbox from back
<br\>> in the day for doing what you're looking for.  It's got like six or
<br\>> eight hookups, is all woodgrain, and has all the retro gaming
<br\>streetcred
<br\>> you'll ever need.  :)
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>best buy had one with all three, coax, rca, and scvideo
<br\>\
<br\>> >In this
<br\>> >instance I just want to achieve a long-standing dream
<br\>> >of having a multi-console gaming rig in my living
<br\>> >room.
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>     Ah, every man's dream...  :)  My twist on this is that I'd like all
<br\>> the consoles to be inside some sort of cabinet with a motorized
<br\>> apparatus (like those things that they have at jewelery stores) that
<br\>> would let you bring the console you want to play to the top.  Insane, I
<br\>> know, but if nothing else it would be a hell of an heirloom once I
<br\>die.  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Im just one of those pussies who doesnt mine just playing everything
<br\>off the dreamcast huh :)
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


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<br\>
> Im just one of those pussies who doesnt mine just playing everything
<br\>> off the dreamcast huh :)
<br\>
<br\>I've got a buddy that I gave a bunch of emulators and roms that play on the
<br\>dreamcast. Virtually everything available, and he always goes back to the
<br\>basic NES games.
<br\>
<br\>Easy connections, too! :D
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
David Goth wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>>Im just one of those pussies who doesnt mine just playing everything
<br\>>>off the dreamcast huh :)
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>
<br\>>I've got a buddy that I gave a bunch of emulators and roms that play on the
<br\>>dreamcast. Virtually everything available, and he always goes back to the
<br\>>basic NES games.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     The vast emulation is what got me into Dreamcast, and consequently
<br\>into modern gaming at the time.  I think when I got the DC (when they
<br\>were $50), the newest system I had in my house was an S-NES.  There just
<br\>wasn't room for newer consoles since I had like two dozen 2600's for no
<br\>damn good reason.  :)
<br\>
<br\>     Too bad that often in emulated videogame systems, sound suffers.
<br\>It's so funny to see all the work that's gone into emulating things like
<br\>the C64's SID chip - SO much code to try to sound like a $2 chip!  :)
<br\>
<br\>>Easy connections, too! :D
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     AND a fishing controller.  :)  Someone's gotta make that thing work
<br\>in the 2600 emulator with Fishing Derby.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


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<br\>
>     Too bad that often in emulated videogame systems, sound suffers.
<br\>> It's so funny to see all the work that's gone into emulating
<br\>> things like the C64's SID chip - SO much code to try to sound
<br\>> like a $2 chip!  :)
<br\>
<br\>Speaking of which (and it's almost embarrassing that I've not tried it yet),
<br\>how is the sound of synthcart emulated on the dc? StellaDC, right?
<br\>


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<br\>
>Speaking of which (and it's almost embarrassing that I've not tried it yet),
<br\>>how is the sound of synthcart emulated on the dc? StellaDC, right?
<br\>
<br\>The only emulator that has really good sound emulation IMO is Z26, which
<br\>has been ported to the XBox.  It's written in assembly so it's pretty much
<br\>impossible to port to a non-x86 system.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Speaking of which (and it's almost embarrassing that I've not tried
<br\>it yet),
<br\>> >how is the sound of synthcart emulated on the dc? StellaDC, right?
<br\>>
<br\>> The only emulator that has really good sound emulation IMO is Z26,
<br\>which
<br\>> has been ported to the XBox.  It's written in assembly so it's
<br\>pretty much
<br\>> impossible to port to a non-x86 system.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>its a moot point because i believe dcstella does NOT support the
<br\>keypad controllers.
<br\>
<br\>lsdj runs "ok"
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


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<br\>
hi i was playing a show with the synth cart and my 2600 took a
<br\>really rough fall from the top of my double keyboard stand and now
<br\>when ever i turn it on i don't get any sound or any video, just
<br\>silence and a black screen, i've tried every game i have and have
<br\>had no luck, is this fixable or should i just throw it out and buy a
<br\>new one? thanks
<br\>-eddie
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello,
<br\>
<br\>Ouch--you might try opening the 2600 to see if it's anything obvious.
<br\>You may have one or more cracked solder joints on the board.  Used 2600
<br\>systems aren't too expensive, and you might be able to find someone on
<br\>a forum (such as AtariAge) to sell you one very inexpensively.
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>____________________________________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>
<br\>On Aug 24, 2004, at 4:50 PM, likeallthelights wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> hi i was playing a show with the synth cart and my 2600 took a
<br\>> really rough fall from the top of my double keyboard stand and now
<br\>> when ever i turn it on i don't get any sound or any video, just
<br\>> silence and a black screen, i've tried every game i have and have
<br\>> had no luck, is this fixable or should i just throw it out and buy a
<br\>> new one? thanks
<br\>> -eddie
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
likeallthelights wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>hi i was playing a show with the synth cart and my 2600 took a
<br\>>really rough fall from the top of my double keyboard stand and now
<br\>>when ever i turn it on i don't get any sound or any video, just
<br\>>silence and a black screen,
<br\>>
<br\>     Have you opened it up to see what's going on inside?  It might be as
<br\>simple as a break in the output cable which you can easily replace once
<br\>you open the Atari up.  You could have also broken the power input
<br\>jack?  Another idea is that the main TIA chip might have come loose and
<br\>needs a nudge to reseat it.
<br\>
<br\>>i've tried every game i have and have
<br\>>had no luck, is this fixable or should i just throw it out and buy a
<br\>>new one? thanks
<br\>>
<br\>     If it does come to that, let me know.  I've got a spare that I can
<br\>let go for a LOT cheaper than Ebay.  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ok i openend it and unconnected and reconnected the videocable and
<br\>it still only gives me a black screen when i turn it on and i have a
<br\>direct 1/4" out on it going to my my mixer and amp and it doesn't
<br\>work, i didn't notice any cracks or broken solder joints but im
<br\>going to take it to a friend who is an electronics technichian and
<br\>hopefully he can help or i'll just buy a new one which i really
<br\>can't affor but will do because the synthcart is just that good
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>> likeallthelights wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >hi i was playing a show with the synth cart and my 2600 took a
<br\>> >really rough fall from the top of my double keyboard stand and
<br\>now
<br\>> >when ever i turn it on i don't get any sound or any video, just
<br\>> >silence and a black screen,
<br\>> >
<br\>>     Have you opened it up to see what's going on inside?  It might
<br\>be as
<br\>> simple as a break in the output cable which you can easily replace
<br\>once
<br\>> you open the Atari up.  You could have also broken the power input
<br\>> jack?  Another idea is that the main TIA chip might have come
<br\>loose and
<br\>> needs a nudge to reseat it.
<br\>>
<br\>> >i've tried every game i have and have
<br\>> >had no luck, is this fixable or should i just throw it out and
<br\>buy a
<br\>> >new one? thanks
<br\>> >
<br\>>     If it does come to that, let me know.  I've got a spare that I
<br\>can
<br\>> let go for a LOT cheaper than Ebay.  :)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --
<br\>>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I am setting up a new domain, and am playing around with setting up a
<br\>lite forum on it. Would you guys perfer to talk about synthcart in a
<br\>forum setting, or are you happy the way it is now?
<br\>


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<br\>
Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
<br\>synthcart group:
<br\>
<br\>Would you guys perfer to talk about
<br\>synthcart in a
<br\>forum setting, or are you happy the way
<br\>it is now?
<br\>
<br\>   o Forums Rool! I would Perfer the forum
<br\>   o Don't rock the boat, I like it the way it is
<br\>   o Neither, I can't figure out how to unsubsribe.. HELP!
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>
a forum sounds good...
<br\>rc
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>
Greetings,
<br\>
<br\>I like the mailing list because I don't have to think to visit a forum
<br\>to keep tabs on Synthcart-related messages.  I'm not using a Synthcart
<br\>to produce music, but since I am selling the carts for Paul, it's nice
<br\>to keep tabs on the discussions here so I can chime in if necessary.
<br\>If there is to be a Synthcart forum, I think it would be appropriate to
<br\>have one attached to one of Paul's sites (such as his main site at
<br\>qotile.net or maybe even the Tree Wave site).
<br\>
<br\>Just my two cents.  :)
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>____________________________________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>
<br\>On Aug 27, 2004, at 7:11 PM, synthcart@yahoogroups.com wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
<br\>> synthcart group:
<br\>>
<br\>> Would you guys perfer to talk about
<br\>> synthcart in a
<br\>> forum setting, or are you happy the way
<br\>> it is now?
<br\>>
<br\>>   o Forums Rool! I would Perfer the forum
<br\>>   o Don't rock the boat, I like it the way it is
<br\>>   o Neither, I can't figure out how to unsubsribe.. HELP!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> To vote, please visit the following web page:
<br\>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/synthcart/surveys?id=707059
<br\>>
<br\>> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
<br\>> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
<br\>> web site listed above.
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


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<br\>
I prefer a forum
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- rich conrad <rcon303@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> a forum sounds good...
<br\>> rc
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>
I like the ease of the mailing list, but forums rock.
<br\>
<br\>i choose... i choose....
<br\>
<br\>Both!
<br\>
<br\>-sean
<br\>


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<br\>
either way's fine with me
<br\>


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Mac Users: Can anyone use the emulator on a Mac? How?

SubjectSrt:
Mac Users: Can anyone use the emulator on a Mac? How?

Message:
<br\>
Hi.  New to the forum.  Just ordered a synthcart and was checking out the Beat
<br\>Box
<br\>Programming emulator.  Does this only work for PC?  Is there a Mac equivalent? 
<br\>I
<br\>appreciate any feedback, suggestions and help.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Michael
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
you talking about a php-like forum?
<br\>I do prefer those to yahoo.
<br\>
<br\>I'll go cast my vote.
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>= www.litmusound.com =
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm"
<br\><kradlabs@y...> wrote:
<br\>> I am setting up a new domain, and am playing around with setting up
<br\>a
<br\>> lite forum on it. Would you guys perfer to talk about synthcart in a
<br\>> forum setting, or are you happy the way it is no
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ha, looks like all the people who prefered forums didn't actually
<br\>vote. damn electronic voting machines! =]
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>= www.litmusound.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey.  New to the forum.  Just purchased the Synth Cart and can't wait
<br\>to mess around.  Saw information about the Beat Box Programming
<br\>synthcart emulator.  It apparently only works on a PC.  Any mac users
<br\>out there that can give me some help?  Mac version of the emulator?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks for the help.
<br\>
<br\>Keep up the good beats.
<br\>Michael
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
There is a Mac version it just isn't working yet try searching the forums at
<br\>ATARIAGE.com - KBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
live synthcart action in LA...
<br\>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
<br\>this Weekend:
<br\>dataAge in Los Angeles Chinatown
<br\>[saturday 9-11]
<br\>w/ 8bit weapon & others
<br\>-= NOTE: we play around 9:45 =-
<br\>(the address is technically 943 Sun Mun
<br\>Way, but it's in an alley behind 943 N.
<br\>Broadway. Jazz club/chinese restaurant
<br\>downstairs, dataAge upstairs)
<br\>
<br\>- also -
<br\>
<br\>interview on TechTV/G4 ScreenSavers on
<br\>Friday Sept 10th.
<br\>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
<br\>http://treewave.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://www.ataritimes.com/lynx/features/abcmusic.html
<br\>
<br\>it only plays one meoldy right now, but I got lots o cool sounds out
<br\>of it in handy
<br\>
<br\>Its a Atari lynx sound generator
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Atari space-punk from Receptors wMWA
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>...here's an ambitious little space-punk peformance from RECEPTORS
<br\>wMWA, utilizing the Synthcart w/Atari 2600 Jr through a vcr plus
<br\>vocoder and live electro kit...
<br\>
<br\>on the audio page....the track's called  'Twist and Climb':
<br\>
<br\>http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>
<br\>thanks for listening
<br\>
<br\>jksine
<br\>
<br\>http://ksine.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey Paul, good job on screen savers...i would have liked to hear
<br\>more from yourself, but goofy hosts are what geek tv is all about,
<br\>right?
<br\>
<br\>...my son loves Homestar , and  the game looks true to form...
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>http://ksine.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I am totally new to the music for atari's thing but from what I've
<br\>heard on the http://qotile.net/synth.html site, it sounds great.
<br\>
<br\>I'm living in Beijing, p.R. china where there is a seemingly endless
<br\>supply of second hand atari / chinese brand gaming equipment on a
<br\>very sliding scale of quaility.
<br\>
<br\>I was hope to get any advice as to how I may go about getting a start
<br\>in the amazing world of atari 2600 generated sounds.
<br\>
<br\>Thank You Kind Folk.
<br\>
<br\>idreaminmono@yahoo.com.cn
<br\>
<br\>My name is mohan
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Big thanks to Paul and Lauren (Tree Wave) for coming out to the west coast!
<br\>I really enjoyed the show & was glad I could be there.
<br\>Coolest visuals ever.  Seriously.
<br\>
<br\>-Sean H
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I was hope to get any advice as to how I may go about getting a start
<br\>>in the amazing world of atari 2600 generated sounds.
<br\>
<br\>might want to get started trying out the Synthcart ROM and Sequencer Kit on
<br\>an emulator like Z26.  From there you can get a real Synthcart and Video
<br\>Touchpad controller, and possibly a Supercharger cartridge to run Sequencer
<br\>Kit sequences on a real Atari 2600.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks Paul for getting back to me so quickly, I¡¯m looking forward
<br\>to getting started! Would you mind telling me, what the hell is an
<br\>emulator Z26? I think I know what you mean by Synthcart and Video
<br\>Touchpad controller (regular games console controller?) and as for
<br\>¡°a Supercharger cartridge to run Sequencer Kit sequences on a real
<br\>Atari 2600¡±, well, I¡¯m guessing I can get one of these bad boys
<br\>from Atari Age?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks again for all your help.
<br\>
<br\>Richard in Beijing.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
eptirichard wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>Thanks Paul for getting back to me so quickly, I¡¯m looking forward
<br\>>to getting started! Would you mind telling me, what the hell is an
<br\>>emulator Z26? I think I know what you mean by Synthcart and Video
<br\>>Touchpad controller (regular games console controller?) and as for
<br\>>¡°a Supercharger cartridge to run Sequencer Kit sequences on a real
<br\>>Atari 2600¡±, well, I¡¯m guessing I can get one of these bad boys
<br\>>from Atari Age?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>Z26 is a popular emulator program that lets you run Amiga ROM's on your
<br\>PC.  There are several such emulators around, but z26 does the best job
<br\>with sound as far as synthcart is concerned.
<br\>
<br\>Synthcart is an Atari cartridge developed by Paul, and sold by
<br\>AtariAge.  You plug it into an Atari 2600 console, and along with the
<br\>Touchpad Controllers (these are keyboard controllers that were made for
<br\>the Atari) you can play your 2600 unit like a synth.
<br\>
<br\>Paul also wrote a Sequencer-type program that you can run on the PC to
<br\>compose music in sequencer-like fashion.  You can play these finished
<br\>sequences through z26, or you can hear them on a real Atari using a
<br\>Supercharger.  The Supercharger was a cartridge for the Atari 2600 that
<br\>allowed you to load games off of tapes.  Today people use it as a way to
<br\>dump ROM's out of their PC in order to play on the 2600.
<br\>
<br\>BTW the Synthcart FAQ (that I've been putting off finishing for ages)
<br\>will be done by early next week.  I'll be going over it with Paul this
<br\>weekend.
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I just wanted to say how gracious you all are at getting newbies up to
<br\>speed.  From the emails I've seen, you all sound like very interesting
<br\>people.  Does anyone have bios posted?  Websites?  I'd love to learn
<br\>more about group members.  Music (DJing) is an avocation.  I'm in
<br\>graphic and product design and am always looking for collaborators.
<br\>
<br\>Regards,
<br\>Michael
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, at 03:11 AM, Bohus Blahut wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> eptirichard wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Thanks Paul for getting back to me so quickly, I¡¯m looking forward
<br\>> >to getting started! Would you mind telling me, what the hell is an
<br\>> >emulator Z26? I think I know what you mean by Synthcart and Video
<br\>> >Touchpad controller (regular games console controller?) and as for
<br\>> >¡°a Supercharger cartridge to run Sequencer Kit sequences on a real
<br\>> >Atari 2600¡±, well, I¡¯m guessing I can get one of these bad boys
<br\>> >from Atari Age?
<br\>> > 
<br\>> >
<br\>> Z26 is a popular emulator program that lets you run Amiga ROM's on your
<br\>> PC.  There are several such emulators around, but z26 does the best job
<br\>> with sound as far as synthcart is concerned.
<br\>>
<br\>> Synthcart is an Atari cartridge developed by Paul, and sold by
<br\>> AtariAge.  You plug it into an Atari 2600 console, and along with the
<br\>> Touchpad Controllers (these are keyboard controllers that were made for
<br\>> the Atari) you can play your 2600 unit like a synth.
<br\>>
<br\>> Paul also wrote a Sequencer-type program that you can run on the PC to
<br\>> compose music in sequencer-like fashion.  You can play these finished
<br\>> sequences through z26, or you can hear them on a real Atari using a
<br\>> Supercharger.  The Supercharger was a cartridge for the Atari 2600 that
<br\>> allowed you to load games off of tapes.  Today people use it as a way
<br\>> to
<br\>> dump ROM's out of their PC in order to play on the 2600.
<br\>>
<br\>> BTW the Synthcart FAQ (that I've been putting off finishing for ages)
<br\>> will be done by early next week.  I'll be going over it with Paul this
<br\>> weekend.
<br\>>
<br\>> --
<br\>>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>> (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>    modern filmmaker
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\><image.tiff>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\><image.tiff>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>> •  To visit your group on the web, go to:
<br\>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/synthcart/
<br\>>  
<br\>> •  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
<br\>> synthcart-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>  
<br\>> •  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Last Friday Synthcart's inventor Paul was on a show called
<br\>"Screensavers" on Tech TV.  For those of you who may have missed it, you
<br\>can download Paul's segment here (it's approximately a 30 meg file):
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/video/ss00.zip
<br\>
<br\>      This clip uses the xviD codec, so you'll want to install that first
<br\>before playing the file.  You can find the codec here:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.xvid.org/downloads.html
<br\>
<br\>     For those of you who use BitTorrent, you can get the whole
<br\>Screensavers (around 130 megs) show by going here:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.g4techtv.com/screensavers/episodes/3459/Creating_Atari_2600_Homebrew_\
<br\>Games.html
<br\>
<br\>      And finally if you want to join in the discussion of Paul's
<br\>appearance, here's a forum where we're chatting about it.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57167&postdays=0&postorder=asc&st\
<br\>art=0
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
First of all I'm running the latest version of z26, amd 2600, windows
<br\>xp home, m-audio firewire audiophile external sound card, 1gb memory.
<br\>
<br\>I'm noticing a long delay between when I touch the keyboard and when I
<br\>hear the sound. Has anybody else experienced this?
<br\>
<br\>Any ideas on how to solve this are appreciated. My apologies if this
<br\>has already been covered, but I skimmed the subjects of this group's
<br\>posts and couldn't find any info.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I'd also like to say that sythcart is a great program. I just received
<br\>a cartidge in the mail yesterday, pulled out my atari, and have been
<br\>having fun with it for too long now! At least I can have fun with the
<br\>actual cartridge until I figure out this delay issue with the emulated
<br\>version.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I'm noticing a long delay between when I touch the keyboard and when I
<br\>>hear the sound. Has anybody else experienced this?
<br\>
<br\>I think there's a command line switch to set the sound buffer size in
<br\>Z26.  It's probably defaulting to a large buffer, and setting it smaller
<br\>will reduce the delay.  Check the Z26 docs.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Does anyone have overlays for the smaller keyboard controllers? You
<br\>know, the little ones that hook together on the side?
<br\>
<br\>On Sep 15, 2004, at 7:22 AM, synthcart@yahoogroups.com wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> There are 3 messages in this issue.
<br\>>
<br\>> Topics in this digest:
<br\>>
<br\>>       1. Re: how to make blippy blipp sounds?
<br\>>            From: Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com>
<br\>>       2. Doop dip and more blips
<br\>>            From: "eptirichard" <eptirichard@yahoo.com>
<br\>>       3. Re: Doop dip and more blips
<br\>>            From: Bohus Blahut <bohus@xnet.com>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> _______________________________________________________________________
<br\>> _
<br\>> _______________________________________________________________________
<br\>> _
<br\>>
<br\>> Message: 1
<br\>>    Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:07:24 -0500
<br\>>    From: Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com>
<br\>> Subject: Re: how to make blippy blipp sounds?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>> I was hope to get any advice as to how I may go about getting a start
<br\>>> in the amazing world of atari 2600 generated sounds.
<br\>>
<br\>> might want to get started trying out the Synthcart ROM and Sequencer
<br\>> Kit on
<br\>> an emulator like Z26.  From there you can get a real Synthcart and
<br\>> Video
<br\>> Touchpad controller, and possibly a Supercharger cartridge to run
<br\>> Sequencer
<br\>> Kit sequences on a real Atari 2600.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> _______________________________________________________________________
<br\>> _
<br\>> _______________________________________________________________________
<br\>> _
<br\>>
<br\>> Message: 2
<br\>>    Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:26:23 -0000
<br\>>    From: "eptirichard" <eptirichard@yahoo.com>
<br\>> Subject: Doop dip and more blips
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks Paul for getting back to me so quickly, I¡¯m looking forward
<br\>> to getting started! Would you mind telling me, what the hell is an
<br\>> emulator Z26? I think I know what you mean by Synthcart and Video
<br\>> Touchpad controller (regular games console controller?) and as for
<br\>> ¡°a Supercharger cartridge to run Sequencer Kit sequences on a real
<br\>> Atari 2600¡±, well, I¡¯m guessing I can get one of these bad boys
<br\>> from Atari Age?
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks again for all your help.
<br\>>
<br\>> Richard in Beijing.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> _______________________________________________________________________
<br\>> _
<br\>> _______________________________________________________________________
<br\>> _
<br\>>
<br\>> Message: 3
<br\>>    Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 02:11:53 -0500
<br\>>    From: Bohus Blahut <bohus@xnet.com>
<br\>> Subject: Re: Doop dip and more blips
<br\>>
<br\>> eptirichard wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>> Thanks Paul for getting back to me so quickly, I¡¯m looking forward
<br\>>> to getting started! Would you mind telling me, what the hell is an
<br\>>> emulator Z26? I think I know what you mean by Synthcart and Video
<br\>>> Touchpad controller (regular games console controller?) and as for
<br\>>> ¡°a Supercharger cartridge to run Sequencer Kit sequences on a real
<br\>>> Atari 2600¡±, well, I¡¯m guessing I can get one of these bad boys
<br\>>> from Atari Age?
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>> Z26 is a popular emulator program that lets you run Amiga ROM's on your
<br\>> PC.  There are several such emulators around, but z26 does the best job
<br\>> with sound as far as synthcart is concerned.
<br\>>
<br\>> Synthcart is an Atari cartridge developed by Paul, and sold by
<br\>> AtariAge.  You plug it into an Atari 2600 console, and along with the
<br\>> Touchpad Controllers (these are keyboard controllers that were made for
<br\>> the Atari) you can play your 2600 unit like a synth.
<br\>>
<br\>> Paul also wrote a Sequencer-type program that you can run on the PC to
<br\>> compose music in sequencer-like fashion.  You can play these finished
<br\>> sequences through z26, or you can hear them on a real Atari using a
<br\>> Supercharger.  The Supercharger was a cartridge for the Atari 2600 that
<br\>> allowed you to load games off of tapes.  Today people use it as a way
<br\>> to
<br\>> dump ROM's out of their PC in order to play on the 2600.
<br\>>
<br\>> BTW the Synthcart FAQ (that I've been putting off finishing for ages)
<br\>> will be done by early next week.  I'll be going over it with Paul this
<br\>> weekend.
<br\>>
<br\>> --
<br\>>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>    modern filmmaker
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> _______________________________________________________________________
<br\>> _
<br\>> _______________________________________________________________________
<br\>> _
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
<br\>> -
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
<br\>> -
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Wiley Wiggins wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>Does anyone have overlays for the smaller keyboard controllers? You
<br\>>know, the little ones that hook together on the side?
<br\>>
<br\>     The only overlay I know of is the one that Bud Melvin made for the
<br\>Star Raiders style controller.
<br\>
<br\>     I used to use Synthcart with the keyboard controllers that you
<br\>mention, and it doesn't take long for it to REALLY hurt!  Personally, I
<br\>like the Kid's controllers which are extra big and blue.  They were made
<br\>for some of the Sesame Street games.  The buttons are nice and big so it
<br\>makes it pretty easy to hit the button that you're looking for!  :)
<br\>
<br\>     I got mine at www.4jays.com, and I'm pretty sure that they still
<br\>have them there for reasonable prices..
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>     The only overlay I know of is the one that Bud Melvin made for the
<br\>>Star Raiders style controller.
<br\>
<br\>Don't of a version for those either.  But I used photoshop to print out a
<br\>bit larger version of the Basic Programming overlays once for the Video
<br\>Touch Pads and everything lines up pretty well, so it should be easy to
<br\>adapt Bud's overlays to the Keyboard Controllers.
<br\>
<br\>>     I used to use Synthcart with the keyboard controllers that you
<br\>>mention, and it doesn't take long for it to REALLY hurt!
<br\>
<br\>yeah, I really don't like using those controllers for the Synthcart.  The
<br\>buttons are too small and require too much pressure.  Plus the buttons
<br\>break occasionally.
<br\>
<br\>>Personally, I
<br\>>like the Kid's controllers which are extra big and blue.  They were made
<br\>>for some of the Sesame Street games.  The buttons are nice and big so it
<br\>>makes it pretty easy to hit the button that you're looking for!  :)
<br\>
<br\>I prefer the Video Touch Pads because the buttons require the least
<br\>pressure, but we often use the Kids Controllers live just because they look
<br\>so damn cool.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
dang!!!  i found out about the show in los angeles the day after it
<br\>happened.  data:age is a cool idea, but those people should make
<br\>more effort to promote shows, im just disappointed i missed your
<br\>show!  come back to LA soon!
<br\>
<br\>seth
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So I was going to have a friend burn me an EPROM of cynthcart, he asked me for a
<br\>BIN file,
<br\>which I thought was available for download at Qotile, but it seems it isnt.  Is
<br\>it just the
<br\>same as a rom file or the crt file, can I convert one to the other or do you
<br\>have a file i
<br\>could download someplace? - KBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>So I was going to have a friend burn me an EPROM of cynthcart, he asked me
<br\>>for a BIN file,
<br\>>which I thought was available for download at Qotile, but it seems it
<br\>>isnt.  Is it just the
<br\>>same as a rom file or the crt file, can I convert one to the other or do
<br\>>you have a file i
<br\>>could download someplace? - KBud
<br\>
<br\>It's the disk image (.prg) with the first 2 bytes removed.  The first two
<br\>bytes are a pointer that tells C64 DOS where to where to load the file into
<br\>memory.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Anyone in Philly? Ive been trying to team up with someone who likes this shit. I
<br\>have
<br\>live shows coming up and need people to help because i have too much equipment
<br\>setup!! Let me know. Cool group btw.
<br\>


Subject:
Controller question for Paul or anyone else who can help....

SubjectSrt:
Controller question for Paul or anyone else who can help....

Message:
<br\>
Will the Atari CX50 controller work with synthcart the same as the
<br\>video touch pad? Thanks!
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Controller question for Paul or anyone else who can help....

Message:
<br\>
They should, the various Atari keypad controllers are all electrically
<br\>the same.  This also includes the Kid's Controller.  :)
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>On Sep 26, 2004, at 11:17 AM, chvad_sb wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Will the Atari CX50 controller work with synthcart the same as the
<br\>> video touch pad? Thanks!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yahoo! Groups Links
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>____________________________________________
<br\>Albert Yarusso, http://www.AtariAge.com
<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Will the Atari CX50 controller work with synthcart the same as the
<br\>>video touch pad? Thanks!
<br\>
<br\>They work, but they're not as easy to use.  The buttons are small and
<br\>require more force.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I always get into websites and blah blah blah. So I used my personal site and
<br\>forgot I
<br\>had a full out forum going. If you guys migrate to it and post what changes youd
<br\>like
<br\>to see, Im alllll for it. Plus this way you can post shows, meetups, etc.
<br\>So.....sorry if Im
<br\>new and what not, but I hope you guys like it and take advantage of it!
<br\>
<br\>http://www.verytoxic.ws/forum/
<br\>
<br\>Enjoy!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Does anyone know how to get synthcart working on the Mac atari emulator?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> It's the disk image (.prg) with the first 2 bytes removed.  The first two
<br\>> bytes are a pointer that tells C64 DOS where to where to load the file into
<br\>> memory.
<br\>
<br\>So how can I change this file on a mac into the file that I need to send him, I
<br\>am sorry I am
<br\>not extremely savvy at the programming stuff I am more of a hardware hack guy :)
<br\>- KBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>So how can I change this file on a mac into the file that I need to send
<br\>>him, I am sorry I am
<br\>>not extremely savvy at the programming stuff I am more of a hardware hack
<br\>>guy :) - KBud
<br\>
<br\>Not sure on a Mac, but I think most EPROM burning software will allow you
<br\>to do stuff like skip the first 2 bytes when loading the buffer or burning
<br\>(just use an offset).
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Subject:
8-bit futurist space-punkslive!RECEPTORS at Atari Convention

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<br\>
8-bit futurist space-punkslive!RECEPTORS at Atari Convention
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>8-bit futurists RECEPTORS  will be performing  our Gameboy
<br\>Controller Array
<br\>
<br\>set(and debuting our 1st live Atari 2600 Synthcart piece) at the
<br\>North Carolina Atari and Classic Video Game Convention, 8pm Fri
<br\>October 1st
<br\>
<br\>at Glitter Gallery ,107 W. Hargett St in Raleigh.It's a group art
<br\>show with
<br\>
<br\>live bands and performers, artists and more. For more details go to
<br\>our
<br\>
<br\>site...
<br\>
<br\>http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://ksine.com
<br\>


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<br\>
Thanks for the info, by the way you are great and keep up the good work, and
<br\>thatnks for
<br\>the sounds - kbud
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >So how can I change this file on a mac into the file that I need to send
<br\>> >him, I am sorry I am
<br\>> >not extremely savvy at the programming stuff I am more of a hardware hack
<br\>> >guy :) - KBud
<br\>>
<br\>> Not sure on a Mac, but I think most EPROM burning software will allow you
<br\>> to do stuff like skip the first 2 bytes when loading the buffer or burning
<br\>> (just use an offset).
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I'd like to purchase this tracker by buying an american 2600, but
<br\>theres the problem of ntsc/pal versus secam imconpatibility... I live
<br\>in France so we use palsecam i think. I don't know if i 'll be able to
<br\>use the us atari 2600 on my french tv... will it work, who knows ?...
<br\>Does someone know how i could be sure of what i do ? Does someone who
<br\>know well this things could give me infos please ?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello,
<br\>
<br\>First I want to remind you that there is a pal version avaible
<br\>through atariage.com. IF your using the ntsc cart on a nstc system,
<br\>it should running fine audiowise, but you will probaly have problems
<br\>displaying the graphic modes. A ntsc cart on a pal system will be out
<br\>of tune, and vice versa. I am not sure if running ntsc video on a pal
<br\>will be unviewable, or merely distored. I am sure someone else can
<br\>chime in on that.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "computertruck2000"
<br\><computertruck2000@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> I'd like to purchase this tracker by buying an american 2600, but
<br\>> theres the problem of ntsc/pal versus secam imconpatibility... I
<br\>live
<br\>> in France so we use palsecam i think. I don't know if i 'll be able
<br\>to
<br\>> use the us atari 2600 on my french tv... will it work, who
<br\>knows ?...
<br\>> Does someone know how i could be sure of what i do ? Does someone
<br\>who
<br\>> know well this things could give me infos please ?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Jai-
<br\>     Hey!  I'm so glad someone else is working on this.  Do you have it
<br\>working on a Mac yet?  What do I need to get it running?  Can you send
<br\>me the programs/files and instructions?  I don't even know how an
<br\>emulator works.  Sorry for being so behind...
<br\>
<br\>Ultimately Thankful,
<br\>Michael
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Monday, Sep 27, 2004, at 03:32 Europe/London, Jai Johnson wrote:
<br\>
<br\>> Does anyone know how to get synthcart working on the Mac atari
<br\>> emulator?
<br\>>
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<br\>
I'm thinking about buying an atari 2600 then a synthcart. In
<br\>france we use pal/secam norme.SO i'd like to know if someone has
<br\>already tested this tracker (pal version)on the different 2600 ( like
<br\>the vcr ets... i don't know exactly the different models...) Is there
<br\>atari 2600 that sounds different or is it the same for all the 2600 ?
<br\>Does the synthcard work on all 26000 ? ...hope someone will help....
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>      I'm thinking about buying an atari 2600 then a synthcart. In
<br\>>france we use pal/secam norme.SO i'd like to know if someone has
<br\>>already tested this tracker (pal version)on the different 2600 ( like
<br\>>the vcr ets... i don't know exactly the different models...) Is there
<br\>>atari 2600 that sounds different or is it the same for all the 2600 ?
<br\>>Does the synthcard work on all 26000 ? ...hope someone will help....
<br\>
<br\>The Synthcart has a PAL version and an NTSC version.  It will not fully
<br\>work with SECAM Atari 2600's since the Black and White/Color switch is not
<br\>the same (so you won't be able to select all the sounds.)  I think that
<br\>SECAM TVs will usually work with PAL sources.  So if that's true, I'd get a
<br\>PAL Atari 2600 and the PAL version of the Synthcart.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
thank you for your help. I just have one more question for you, have you test
<br\>the cart with the different 2600 ? is there some that sounds better ? or is it
<br\>the same for all the different 2600 ( junior, vcr...) ?
<br\>
<br\>Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>>      I'm thinking about buying an atari 2600 then a synthcart. In
<br\>>france we use pal/secam norme.SO i'd like to know if someone has
<br\>>already tested this tracker (pal version)on the different 2600 ( like
<br\>>the vcr ets... i don't know exactly the different models...) Is there
<br\>>atari 2600 that sounds different or is it the same for all the 2600 ?
<br\>>Does the synthcard work on all 26000 ? ...hope someone will help....
<br\>
<br\>The Synthcart has a PAL version and an NTSC version.  It will not fully
<br\>work with SECAM Atari 2600's since the Black and White/Color switch is not
<br\>the same (so you won't be able to select all the sounds.)  I think that
<br\>SECAM TVs will usually work with PAL sources.  So if that's true, I'd get a
<br\>PAL Atari 2600 and the PAL version of the Synthcart.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
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>thank you for your help. I just have one more question for you, have you
<br\>>test the cart with the different 2600 ? is there some that sounds better ?
<br\>>or is it the same for all the different 2600 ( junior, vcr...) ?
<br\>
<br\>I can't tell any difference between them.  The PAL and NTSC timings are
<br\>slightly different so the tempos and pitch vary a little, but otherwise no
<br\>difference that I notice.  It's not like the Commodore where there are
<br\>different versions of the sound chip.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I want to mod my 2600 jr. w/ a 1/4 " jack for audio . On Ben's how to page It
<br\>lists several things needed such as pots, and resistors etc. Do I need all of
<br\>these\ things to do the audio mod...I am assuming he is talking about a
<br\>composite
<br\>a/v mod. I just need the audio. Can anyone tell me in simple terms how to
<br\>mod the audio( which points on the board to wire for audio ) . Thanks in
<br\>advance........ Trey ( new synthcart owner )
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I want to mod my 2600 jr. w/ a 1/4 " jack for audio . On Ben's how to page It
<br\>>lists several things needed such as pots, and resistors etc. Do I need all of
<br\>>these\ things to do the audio mod...I am assuming he is talking about a
<br\>>composite
<br\>>a/v mod. I just need the audio. Can anyone tell me in simple terms how to
<br\>>mod the audio( which points on the board to wire for audio ) . Thanks in
<br\>>advance........ Trey ( new synthcart owner )
<br\>
<br\>Just do the audio part of the mod and skip the video part.  You don't need
<br\>any parts for audio except wires and an audio jack.  I usually just use a
<br\>1/4" jack instead of RCA.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Not to get everyone excited over nothing but take a look nat this....
<br\>
<br\>http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_5.htm
<br\>
<br\>a cool analogy synth/speech module with GAME SAVE feature...
<br\>
<br\>I would kill the second coming of jesus for a some kind of sequencer
<br\>or programable that takes advantage of this....
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Not to get everyone excited over nothing but take a look nat this....
<br\>>
<br\>>http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_5.htm
<br\>
<br\>I've got one... Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but I'm sure I'll soon
<br\>be programming some stuff for it.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi.  I saw some banter about getting the emulator to work on a Mac.
<br\>Has anyone made any progress?  What do we need to make this work on
<br\>G4/G5?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Michael
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I may have missed some messages on this--what emulator are you trying
<br\>to get to work on the Mac?  For Atari 2600 emulation I use Stella OSX
<br\>(which was recently released) and it works quite well.  You can
<br\>download it here:
<br\>
<br\>http://stella.sourceforge.net/
<br\>
<br\>   ..Al
<br\>
<br\>____________________________________________
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<br\>Atari News, Forums, Media, Guides, and more!
<br\>
<br\>On Oct 21, 2004, at 11:11 AM, Michael Turri wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Hi.  I saw some banter about getting the emulator to work on a Mac.
<br\>> Has anyone made any progress?  What do we need to make this work on
<br\>> G4/G5?
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks,
<br\>> Michael
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Not to get everyone excited over nothing but take a look nat this....
<br\>> >
<br\>> >http://www.richard.hutchinson.dsl.pipex.com/new_page_5.htm
<br\>>
<br\>> I've got one... Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but I'm sure
<br\>I'll soon
<br\>> be programming some stuff for it.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\><pavlovian response>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
is it just an interface for the speak jet chip?  i read that the
<br\>developers of the speak jet are reworking it to interface easier
<br\>with common synth power requirements - so if you have a modular or
<br\>diy synth you might want to hold on a bit.
<br\>
<br\>anyway, i think its like the equivalent of hooking a speak and spell
<br\>up the your timex sinclair... the atarivox name is a bit
<br\>misleading.
<br\>
<br\>looks like alot of fun though!  ill probably get one :)
<br\>seth
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "denshiblocks" <denshiblocks@y...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> is it just an interface for the speak jet chip?  i read that the
<br\>> developers of the speak jet are reworking it to interface easier
<br\>> with common synth power requirements - so if you have a modular or
<br\>> diy synth you might want to hold on a bit.
<br\>>
<br\>> anyway, i think its like the equivalent of hooking a speak and spell
<br\>> up the your timex sinclair... the atarivox name is a bit
<br\>> misleading.
<br\>>
<br\>> looks like alot of fun though!  ill probably get one :)
<br\>> seth
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Actually it appears taht from the docs, you can get synth sounds out
<br\>of it now... i am not sure about how full featured thenatarivox will
<br\>be, but the speakjet can make some cool synth tones now out of the
<br\>box. I think the gamesave feature is as important as the synth sounds,
<br\>but I am cocnerned that it has to tie up a controller port to be used....
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey paul sorry to be a bother, i know your busy but i was wondering
<br\>if you could make me a pair of cynthcart cartridges, i have the ep+
<br\>but i don't like dragging my datasette drive out everytime i play a
<br\>show. if you can't do it i understand and please keep making more
<br\>incredible software so i can make more obnoxious noise with my
<br\>videogame systems
<br\>-eddie
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>hey paul sorry to be a bother, i know your busy but i was wondering
<br\>>if you could make me a pair of cynthcart cartridges, i have the ep+
<br\>>but i don't like dragging my datasette drive out everytime i play a
<br\>>show. if you can't do it i understand and please keep making more
<br\>>incredible software so i can make more obnoxious noise with my
<br\>>videogame systems
<br\>
<br\>I've been meaning to make them available at the Atariage store, but just
<br\>haven't gotten around to getting everything set up.  I'll get that rolling.
<br\>
<br\>I'm currently working on adding stereo SID support to that program.
<br\>
<br\>And also I'm making a version of it that works as a kernel replacement.  So
<br\>you'd open up your C64 and replace a chip inside with an EPROM, and then it
<br\>will always boot up as the Cynthcart.  Although this works best on the 64C
<br\>(the later white-ish model) as the earlier C64s have an odd pin-out on the
<br\>kernel socket, so you have to make an adapter.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>
<br\>> I've been meaning to make them available at the Atariage store, but
<br\>just
<br\>> haven't gotten around to getting everything set up.  I'll get that
<br\>rolling.
<br\>
<br\>awesome
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm currently working on adding stereo SID support to that program.
<br\>>
<br\>> And also I'm making a version of it that works as a kernel
<br\>replacement.  So
<br\>> you'd open up your C64 and replace a chip inside with an EPROM, and
<br\>then it
<br\>> will always boot up as the Cynthcart.  Although this works best on
<br\>the 64C
<br\>> (the later white-ish model) as the earlier C64s have an odd pin-out
<br\>on the
<br\>> kernel socket, so you have to make an adapter.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Have you seen the sequential circuits midi interface? Its a sequencing
<br\>program built into a cartidge with midi in/our (and analog clock)
<br\>
<br\>it would be cool to do a replacement of that software to make the c64
<br\>midable out of the box. I have one so if you want to play around with
<br\>it... id mail it out
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>either case put me down for a cynthcart...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Have you seen the sequential circuits midi interface? Its a sequencing
<br\>>program built into a cartidge with midi in/our (and analog clock)
<br\>>
<br\>>it would be cool to do a replacement of that software to make the c64
<br\>>midable out of the box. I have one so if you want to play around with
<br\>>it... id mail it out
<br\>
<br\>Yeah, I've got one of the other cart MIDI interfaces, but I just don't have
<br\>any need for MIDI on the c64 right now since I like to play
<br\>everything.  Maybe at some point I'll consider this, but right now I'm
<br\>really limited on time so I gotta just program what I need.
<br\>
<br\>I finished converting the Cynthcart into a replacement for the C64 BASIC
<br\>ROM and it works on the Vice emulator, but it appears that it's not as easy
<br\>to install as I thought.  Neither of my 64C models have the EPROM
<br\>compatible ROM socket, and they all had the ROMs soldered to the main
<br\>board.  I found a guy that sells ROM adapters online, but I need to get it
<br\>working ASAP so I'm going to try building my own this weekend.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Subject:
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Message:
<br\>
2 new dark electro gameboy tracks plus pix of Receptors' gameboy &
<br\>atari 2600 live setup from last weeks show at:
<br\>
<br\>http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>
<br\>on the *shows & *audio pages.
<br\>
<br\>one shot looks curiously like me perplexing quizically over a hanging
<br\>chad just in time for the election!
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>http://ksine.com
<br\>


Subject:
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Message:
<br\>
Jermery,
<br\>
<br\>     i    just tried to order some records drom you but your ordering page wasnt
<br\>working for me.
<br\>
<br\>Joe
<br\>www.fabulous23s.com
<br\>
<br\>   From: J Ksine
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:48 PM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] live dark electro gameboy tracks & pix of Receptors show
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   j
<br\>
<br\>   2 new dark electro gameboy tracks plus pix of Receptors' gameboy &
<br\>   atari 2600 live setup from last weeks show at:
<br\>
<br\>   http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>
<br\>   on the *shows & *audio pages.
<br\>
<br\>   one shot looks curiously like me perplexing quizically over a hanging
<br\>   chad just in time for the election!
<br\>
<br\>   jeremy
<br\>
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<br\>
I am SO ready to buy a Cynthcart cartridge! Make it so!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Have you seen the sequential circuits midi interface? Its a sequencing
<br\>> >program built into a cartidge with midi in/our (and analog clock)
<br\>> >
<br\>> >it would be cool to do a replacement of that software to make the c64
<br\>> >midable out of the box. I have one so if you want to play around with
<br\>> >it... id mail it out
<br\>>
<br\>> Yeah, I've got one of the other cart MIDI interfaces, but I just
<br\>don't have
<br\>> any need for MIDI on the c64 right now since I like to play
<br\>> everything.  Maybe at some point I'll consider this, but right now I'm
<br\>> really limited on time so I gotta just program what I need.
<br\>>
<br\>> I finished converting the Cynthcart into a replacement for the C64
<br\>BASIC
<br\>> ROM and it works on the Vice emulator, but it appears that it's not
<br\>as easy
<br\>> to install as I thought.  Neither of my 64C models have the EPROM
<br\>> compatible ROM socket, and they all had the ROMs soldered to the main
<br\>> board.  I found a guy that sells ROM adapters online, but I need to
<br\>get it
<br\>> working ASAP so I'm going to try building my own this weekend.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i am really interested in having a midiable C64 tell me more
<br\>joe
<br\>]
<br\>
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: chvad_sb
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:05 PM
<br\>   Subject: [synthcart] Re: cynthcart cartdiges??
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   I am SO ready to buy a Cynthcart cartridge! Make it so!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>   >
<br\>   > >Have you seen the sequential circuits midi interface? Its a sequencing
<br\>   > >program built into a cartidge with midi in/our (and analog clock)
<br\>   > >
<br\>   > >it would be cool to do a replacement of that software to make the c64
<br\>   > >midable out of the box. I have one so if you want to play around with
<br\>   > >it... id mail it out
<br\>   >
<br\>   > Yeah, I've got one of the other cart MIDI interfaces, but I just
<br\>   don't have
<br\>   > any need for MIDI on the c64 right now since I like to play
<br\>   > everything.  Maybe at some point I'll consider this, but right now I'm
<br\>   > really limited on time so I gotta just program what I need.
<br\>   >
<br\>   > I finished converting the Cynthcart into a replacement for the C64
<br\>   BASIC
<br\>   > ROM and it works on the Vice emulator, but it appears that it's not
<br\>   as easy
<br\>   > to install as I thought.  Neither of my 64C models have the EPROM
<br\>   > compatible ROM socket, and they all had the ROMs soldered to the main
<br\>   > board.  I found a guy that sells ROM adapters online, but I need to
<br\>   get it
<br\>   > working ASAP so I'm going to try building my own this weekend.
<br\>   >
<br\>   > -paul
<br\>
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>i am really interested in having a midiable C64 tell me more
<br\>
<br\>I don't plan to implement MIDI for a while, but there are several other
<br\>options:
<br\>
<br\>http://gallium.prg.dtu.dk/anyware/
<br\>
<br\>http://www.sidstation.com/
<br\>
<br\>http://www.hardsid.com/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I now have stereo SID support for the Cynthcart working and it sounds
<br\>awesome.  audio clips soon.  and I'm working on making cartridges available...
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


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where will the new carts be available from?
<br\>
<br\>Joe
<br\>www.fabulous23s.com
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   >i am really interested in having a midiable C64 tell me more
<br\>
<br\>   I don't plan to implement MIDI for a while, but there are several other
<br\>   options:
<br\>
<br\>   http://gallium.prg.dtu.dk/anyware/
<br\>
<br\>   http://www.sidstation.com/
<br\>
<br\>   http://www.hardsid.com/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   I now have stereo SID support for the Cynthcart working and it sounds
<br\>   awesome.  audio clips soon.  and I'm working on making cartridges available...
<br\>
<br\>   -paul
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>where will the new carts be available from?
<br\>
<br\>Atariage
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The Krok Cart is about to come out.  It's a 2600 RAM cart and will run the
<br\>Synthcart.  So if you wanna use the Synthcart source to make modifications
<br\>or change the beats and build your own ROM, here's an easy way to run it on
<br\>the real thing:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=291
<br\>
<br\>It'll also run sequences created with my sequencer kit and includes a
<br\>multicart functionality.  So you could store a bunch of custom 2600
<br\>sequences on it and select them from a menu.
<br\>
<br\>And of course it'll run most existing 2600 games as well.
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<br\>
Also, for those of you with some artistic skills, we're running a
<br\>contest right now to create a label for the Krokodile Cartridge.  The
<br\>winner will receive a free Krokodile Cart, which is a $99 value.  You
<br\>can learn more about the contest, as well as view the submissions thus
<br\>far, here:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/features/contests/KrokodileCart/
<br\>
<br\>   ..A
<br\>____________________________________________
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<br\>On Nov 2, 2004, at 12:08 PM, Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> The Krok Cart is about to come out.  It's a 2600 RAM cart and will run
<br\>> the
<br\>> Synthcart.  So if you wanna use the Synthcart source to make
<br\>> modifications
<br\>> or change the beats and build your own ROM, here's an easy way to run
<br\>> it on
<br\>> the real thing:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=291
<br\>>
<br\>> It'll also run sequences created with my sequencer kit and includes a
<br\>> multicart functionality.  So you could store a bunch of custom 2600
<br\>> sequences on it and select them from a menu.
<br\>>
<br\>> And of course it'll run most existing 2600 games as well.
<br\>>
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please allow some artistic frustration ventilation.thankyou.

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please allow some artistic frustration ventilation.thankyou.

Message:
<br\>
wed, nov 3rd, 2004. 2:30.
<br\>
<br\>one of the benefits of internet music distribution over
<br\>  traditional is the ability to respond artistically, immediately, to
<br\>current events...
<br\>new RECEPTORS track for download: "Your Decisions." at
<br\>http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>
<br\>it's another old school electro gameboy track...not sure what it's
<br\>saying...
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>


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Re: please allow some artistic frustration ventilation.thankyou.

Message:
<br\>
Jeremy:
<br\>     I hear you, man.  I'm very glad I'm in Vancouver for the next
<br\>several weeks.  I'm ultimately disappointed by this outcome.
<br\>Especially since, if you look at the states who are at greatest risk of
<br\>terrorist attacks (New York, California and Massachusetts), they all
<br\>voted Democrat.  What the hell does North Dakota have anything to do
<br\>with it?
<br\>
<br\>      I really like this song and can appreciate the vein in which it was
<br\>made.  I'm 28, a novice furniture/lighting designer, an electronic
<br\>music freak and occasional DJ.  Connected with the Baltimore/DC scene
<br\>(and through friends the west coast house scene) and even held
<br\>residency at this funky lounge/bar in Cascais Portugal when I lived
<br\>there a year ago.  I still haven't even plugged in my synthcart for
<br\>experimentation, but hope to soon.  What tools did you use to make
<br\>"Your Decisions?"  I hope you don't mind that I sent that track, as
<br\>well as a like to your site, all over the world.
<br\>
<br\>I look forward to hopefully establishing some dialogue with you and
<br\>checking out a show at some point.  Have you ever used/seen the Atari
<br\>C-240 video music system?
<br\>
<br\>Regards,
<br\>Michael
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Wednesday, Nov 3, 2004, at 11:38 America/Vancouver, J Ksine wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> wed, nov 3rd, 2004. 2:30.
<br\>>
<br\>> one of the benefits of internet music distribution over
<br\>> traditional is the ability to respond artistically, immediately, to
<br\>> current events...
<br\>> new RECEPTORS track for download: "Your Decisions." at 
<br\>> http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>>
<br\>> it's another old school electro gameboy track...not sure what it's
<br\>> saying...
<br\>>
<br\>> jeremy
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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I am sorry my email got sent to everyone, I didn't mean to voice my
<br\>political opinions in this forum.  I forgot that replies go to all on
<br\>the list.  That was inappropriate and I apologize.
<br\>
<br\>Michael
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Wednesday, Nov 3, 2004, at 12:57 America/Vancouver, Michael Turri
<br\>wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Jeremy:
<br\>>     I hear you, man.  I'm very glad I'm in Vancouver for the next
<br\>> several weeks.  I'm ultimately disappointed by this outcome.
<br\>> Especially since, if you look at the states who are at greatest risk of
<br\>> terrorist attacks (New York, California and Massachusetts), they all
<br\>> voted Democrat.  What the hell does North Dakota have anything to do
<br\>> with it?
<br\>>
<br\>>      I really like this song and can appreciate the vein in which it
<br\>> was
<br\>> made.  I'm 28, a novice furniture/lighting designer, an electronic
<br\>> music freak and occasional DJ.  Connected with the Baltimore/DC scene
<br\>> (and through friends the west coast house scene) and even held
<br\>> residency at this funky lounge/bar in Cascais Portugal when I lived
<br\>> there a year ago.  I still haven't even plugged in my synthcart for
<br\>> experimentation, but hope to soon.  What tools did you use to make
<br\>> "Your Decisions?"  I hope you don't mind that I sent that track, as
<br\>> well as a like to your site, all over the world.
<br\>>
<br\>> I look forward to hopefully establishing some dialogue with you and
<br\>> checking out a show at some point.  Have you ever used/seen the Atari
<br\>> C-240 video music system?
<br\>>
<br\>> Regards,
<br\>> Michael
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On Wednesday, Nov 3, 2004, at 11:38 America/Vancouver, J Ksine wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>> wed, nov 3rd, 2004. 2:30.
<br\>>>
<br\>>> one of the benefits of internet music distribution over
<br\>>> traditional is the ability to respond artistically, immediately, to
<br\>>> current events...
<br\>>> new RECEPTORS track for download: "Your Decisions." at 
<br\>>> http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>>>
<br\>>> it's another old school electro gameboy track...not sure what it's
<br\>>> saying...
<br\>>>
<br\>>> jeremy
<br\>>>
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no need for apologies...most of this list might agree..(?)
<br\>
<br\>thanks for the feedback...i will contact you off list
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Michael Turri <krylli@m...> wrote:
<br\>> I am sorry my email got sent to everyone, I didn't mean to voice my
<br\>> political opinions in this forum.  I forgot that replies go to all
<br\>on
<br\>> the list.  That was inappropriate and I apologize.
<br\>>
<br\>> Michael
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On Wednesday, Nov 3, 2004, at 12:57 America/Vancouver, Michael
<br\>Turri
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Jeremy:
<br\>> >     I hear you, man.  I'm very glad I'm in Vancouver for the next
<br\>> > several weeks.  I'm ultimately disappointed by this outcome.
<br\>> > Especially since, if you look at the states who are at greatest
<br\>risk of
<br\>> > terrorist attacks (New York, California and Massachusetts), they
<br\>all
<br\>> > voted Democrat.  What the hell does North Dakota have anything to
<br\>do
<br\>> > with it?
<br\>> >
<br\>> >      I really like this song and can appreciate the vein in which
<br\>it
<br\>> > was
<br\>> > made.  I'm 28, a novice furniture/lighting designer, an electronic
<br\>> > music freak and occasional DJ.  Connected with the Baltimore/DC
<br\>scene
<br\>> > (and through friends the west coast house scene) and even held
<br\>> > residency at this funky lounge/bar in Cascais Portugal when I
<br\>lived
<br\>> > there a year ago.  I still haven't even plugged in my synthcart
<br\>for
<br\>> > experimentation, but hope to soon.  What tools did you use to make
<br\>> > "Your Decisions?"  I hope you don't mind that I sent that track,
<br\>as
<br\>> > well as a like to your site, all over the world.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I look forward to hopefully establishing some dialogue with you
<br\>and
<br\>> > checking out a show at some point.  Have you ever used/seen the
<br\>Atari
<br\>> > C-240 video music system?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Regards,
<br\>> > Michael
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > On Wednesday, Nov 3, 2004, at 11:38 America/Vancouver, J Ksine
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> wed, nov 3rd, 2004. 2:30.
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> one of the benefits of internet music distribution over
<br\>> >> traditional is the ability to respond artistically, immediately,
<br\>to
<br\>> >> current events...
<br\>> >> new RECEPTORS track for download: "Your Decisions." at 
<br\>> >> http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> it's another old school electro gameboy track...not sure what
<br\>it's
<br\>> >> saying...
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >> jeremy
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
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thanks again for the heads up...no vinyl available right now (by
<br\>december the 7" should be out...)
<br\>and i know colette 6 just came out so not sure if colette 5 still
<br\>available..
<br\>thanks
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>>     i    just tried to order some records drom you but your
<br\>ordering page wasnt working for me.
<br\>>
<br\>> Joe
<br\>> www.fabulous23s.com
<br\>>
<br\>>   From: J Ksine
<br\>>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>   Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:48 PM
<br\>>   Subject: [synthcart] live dark electro gameboy tracks & pix of
<br\>Receptors show
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>   j
<br\>>
<br\>>   2 new dark electro gameboy tracks plus pix of Receptors' gameboy
<br\>&
<br\>>   atari 2600 live setup from last weeks show at:
<br\>>
<br\>>   http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>>
<br\>>   on the *shows & *audio pages.
<br\>>
<br\>>   one shot looks curiously like me perplexing quizically over a
<br\>hanging
<br\>>   chad just in time for the election!
<br\>>
<br\>>   jeremy
<br\>>
<br\>>   http://ksine.com
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<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "J Ksine" <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> no need for apologies...most of this list might agree..(?)
<br\>>
<br\>> thanks for the feedback...i will contact you off list
<br\>>
<br\>> jeremy
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Michael Turri <krylli@m...> wrote:
<br\>> > I am sorry my email got sent to everyone, I didn't mean to voice my
<br\>> > political opinions in this forum.  I forgot that replies go to all
<br\>> on
<br\>> > the list.  That was inappropriate and I apologize.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Michael4
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > On Wednesday, Nov 3, 2004, at 12:57 America/Vancouver, Michael
<br\>> Turri
<br\>> > wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Jeremy:
<br\>> > >     I hear you, man.  I'm very glad I'm in Vancouver for the next
<br\>> > > several weeks.  I'm ultimately disappointed by this outcome.
<br\>> > > Especially since, if you look at the states who are at greatest
<br\>> risk of
<br\>> > > terrorist attacks (New York, California and Massachusetts), they
<br\>> all
<br\>> > > voted Democrat.  What the hell does North Dakota have anything to
<br\>> do
<br\>> > > with it?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >      I really like this song and can appreciate the vein in which
<br\>> it
<br\>> > > was
<br\>> > > made.  I'm 28, a novice furniture/lighting designer, an electronic
<br\>> > > music freak and occasional DJ.  Connected with the Baltimore/DC
<br\>> scene
<br\>> > > (and through friends the west coast house scene) and even held
<br\>> > > residency at this funky lounge/bar in Cascais Portugal when I
<br\>> lived
<br\>> > > there a year ago.  I still haven't even plugged in my synthcart
<br\>> for
<br\>> > > experimentation, but hope to soon.  What tools did you use to make
<br\>> > > "Your Decisions?"  I hope you don't mind that I sent that track,
<br\>> as
<br\>> > > well as a like to your site, all over the world.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > I look forward to hopefully establishing some dialogue with you
<br\>> and
<br\>> > > checking out a show at some point.  Have you ever used/seen the
<br\>> Atari
<br\>> > > C-240 video music system?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Regards,
<br\>> > > Michael
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > On Wednesday, Nov 3, 2004, at 11:38 America/Vancouver, J Ksine
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >> wed, nov 3rd, 2004. 2:30.
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >> one of the benefits of internet music distribution over
<br\>> > >> traditional is the ability to respond artistically, immediately,
<br\>> to
<br\>> > >> current events...
<br\>> > >> new RECEPTORS track for download: "Your Decisions." at
<br\>> > >> http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >> it's another old school electro gameboy track...not sure what
<br\>> it's
<br\>> > >> saying...
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >> jeremy
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >>
<br\>> > >>
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<br\>
Good work!
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "J Ksine" <jeremy@k...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> wed, nov 3rd, 2004. 2:30.
<br\>>
<br\>> one of the benefits of internet music distribution over
<br\>>  traditional is the ability to respond artistically, immediately,
<br\>to
<br\>> current events...
<br\>> new RECEPTORS track for download: "Your Decisions." at
<br\>> http://receptorsmusic.com
<br\>>
<br\>> it's another old school electro gameboy track...not sure what it's
<br\>> saying...
<br\>>
<br\>> jeremy
<br\>


Subject:
cool Article on Gameboy/Atari & Receptors music.

SubjectSrt:
cool Article on Gameboy/Atari & Receptors music.

Message:
<br\>
I decided to play a gig in my hometown after 4 years and i got this
<br\>write-up about my Gameboy/Atari stuff(and some very over-flattering
<br\>back story on myself)in the big  paper here in southwest Virginia.
<br\>It's nice to see that even outside the fringe there's some
<br\>appreciation for new kinds of music. We have a (re)budding little
<br\>electro scene starting here in the beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains of
<br\>new Appalachia...(no i don't work for the tourism board).The article
<br\>is by a  guy named Mason Adams,and it's for the Roanoke Times which
<br\>has about 100,000 daily circ. and their website is pretty active
<br\>too.It was a pretty decent front page spread with some cool live pix
<br\>& stuff...
<br\>
<br\>Also included, though not posted here online is a timeline I provided
<br\>that mentions everyone from Delia Derbyshire to Glomag & Bitshifter...
<br\>I am dissapointed he didn't mention Wittchow, Kotlinski & Slocum
<br\>which I made a big point of telling him about as well as Wexelbaum &
<br\>Nullsleep...nevertheless i appreciate the article and if anyone wants
<br\>a newspaper copy please email me.
<br\>
<br\>here's the online link w audio:
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://www.roanoke.com/extra/13417.html
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>jksine
<br\>
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Re: cool Article on Gameboy/Atari & Receptors music.

Message:
<br\>
> Also included, though not posted here online is a timeline I provided
<br\>> that mentions everyone from Delia Derbyshire to Glomag & Bitshifter...
<br\>> I am dissapointed he didn't mention Wittchow, Kotlinski & Slocum
<br\>> which I made a big point of telling him about as well as Wexelbaum &
<br\>> Nullsleep...nevertheless i appreciate the article and if anyone wants
<br\>> a newspaper copy please email me.
<br\>>
<br\>> here's the online link w audio:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.roanoke.com/extra/13417.html
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> jksine
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>wow great write up!
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>
<br\>ps: "shareware for free"??
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
can anyone help me get cyber tracker for the c64 on a cartridge or a
<br\>disk? i have been workig on it all day and i am completely lost, i
<br\>would be more than willing to pay you for the time you spend burning
<br\>the eprom and for the chip and if you put it on a disk i will pay
<br\>for the disk and i'll pay shipping and extra just for your help. so
<br\>if anyone knows how i can get it on a cart please let me know.
<br\>thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> wow great write up!
<br\>>
<br\>> Peter
<br\>>
<br\>> ps: "shareware for free"??>
<br\>
<br\>yeh i know...i'm still not sure the reporter quite understood the
<br\>whole idea of this...
<br\>
<br\>jksine
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> >I am dissapointed he didn't mention Wittchow, Kotlinski & Slocum
<br\>> > which I made a big point of telling him about as well as
<br\>Wexelbaum &
<br\>> > Nullsleep...nevertheless i appreciate the article and if anyone
<br\>wants
<br\>> > a newspaper copy please email me.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > here's the online link w audio:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > http://www.roanoke.com/extra/13417.html
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > jksine
<br\>> >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
and can i have a copy too?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>  --- likeallthelights <iloverorygilmore@hotmail.com>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>
<br\>---------------------------------
<br\>
<br\>can anyone help me get cyber tracker for the c64 on a
<br\>cartridge or a
<br\>disk? i have been workig on it all day and i am
<br\>completely lost, i
<br\>would be more than willing to pay you for the time you
<br\>spend burning
<br\>the eprom and for the chip and if you put it on a disk
<br\>i will pay
<br\>for the disk and i'll pay shipping and extra just for
<br\>your help. so
<br\>if anyone knows how i can get it on a cart please let
<br\>me know.
<br\>thanks
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>
>can anyone help me get cyber tracker for the c64 on a cartridge or a
<br\>>disk? i have been workig on it all day and i am completely lost, i
<br\>>would be more than willing to pay you for the time you spend burning
<br\>>the eprom and for the chip and if you put it on a disk i will pay
<br\>>for the disk and i'll pay shipping and extra just for your help. so
<br\>>if anyone knows how i can get it on a cart please let me know.
<br\>
<br\>Disk is generally a lot easier than cartridge.  You might try posting on
<br\>the Lemon64.com forums and see if you can find someone to do the disk
<br\>transfer for you.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>can anyone help me get cyber tracker for the c64 on a cartridge or a
<br\>>disk? i have been workig on it all day and i am completely lost, i
<br\>>would be more than willing to pay you for the time you spend burning
<br\>>the eprom and for the chip and if you put it on a disk i will pay
<br\>>for the disk and i'll pay shipping and extra just for your help. so
<br\>>if anyone knows how i can get it on a cart please let me know.
<br\>>thanks
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I've got the PC to 1541 cable and star commander.  If you email me the files
<br\>you want copied to floppy & cover shipping/disks I'll totally help you out.
<br\>
<br\>-Sean
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I've got the PC to 1541 cable and star commander.  If you email me the files
<br\>>you want copied to floppy & cover shipping/disks I'll totally help you out.
<br\>
<br\>There ya go.  I have the cable, but I can't get Star Commander to work with
<br\>any of my newer computers.  It used to work with a PC I don't have anymore.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Here is the file -
<br\>
<br\>http://www.cosine.org.uk/files/ems_v703.zip
<br\>
<br\>let me know how much you want for the discs/shipping
<br\>
<br\>thanks
<br\>   ----- Original Message -----
<br\>   From: Paul Slocum
<br\>   To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>   Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:42 PM
<br\>   Subject: Re: [synthcart] cyber tracker
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>   >I've got the PC to 1541 cable and star commander.  If you email me the files
<br\>   >you want copied to floppy & cover shipping/disks I'll totally help you out.
<br\>
<br\>   There ya go.  I have the cable, but I can't get Star Commander to work with
<br\>   any of my newer computers.  It used to work with a PC I don't have anymore.
<br\>
<br\>   -paul
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--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "23" <xsxs@b...> wrote:
<br\>> Here is the file -
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.cosine.org.uk/files/ems_v703.zip
<br\>>
<br\>> let me know how much you want for the discs/shipping
<br\>
<br\>Can I get your address for shipping calculation?  You can email me directly at:
<br\>shellfritsch@hotmail.com
<br\>
<br\>-sean
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I'm mostly caught up on stuff right now and I'm thinking I'm going to try
<br\>to hammer out a preliminary version of the 2600 sequencer that I've talked
<br\>about doing.
<br\>
<br\>So my main motivation behind the creation of this program is to have an
<br\>easy efficient way to try out musical ideas on a real 2600, and then be
<br\>able to use the patterns on my Atari 2600 Sequencer kit.  But I plan to set
<br\>it up so you could also just use it as sort of a drum machine or limited
<br\>seqeuncer for a live performance.  And eventually I plan on adding support
<br\>for saving sequences to flash RAM either through the AtariVox or another
<br\>memory device.  I have working models of both devices BTW.
<br\>
<br\>The operation will be similar to the sequencer kit.  There will be
<br\>subpatterns (the equivalent of a quarter of a measure) which will be
<br\>sequenced into patterns (each pattern has 4 subpatterns) and then patterns
<br\>can be sequenced into a mini-song.  It will also include the "high hat"
<br\>rhythm feature.  Currently it looks like I'll be able to have 8
<br\>subpatterns, 8 patterns, and 8 measures in a song.  I'll add more if
<br\>possible, but remember the 2600 only has 128 bytes of RAM.
<br\>
<br\>When you have created something you like, you'll be able to display the
<br\>subpattern data as simple numeric data that can be used with the Sequencer Kit.
<br\>
<br\>I plan on allowing you to keep the sequence playing no matter what you're
<br\>doing, so you can edit anything and hear the results immediately.  And I'll
<br\>incorporate data from my Music Programming guide, allowing you to limit the
<br\>subpattern editor to only sets of notes that are generally are in tune with
<br\>one another.
<br\>
<br\>If anyone has any ideas about features they might want, let me know.  Can't
<br\>guarantee I'll include them (and I'm aiming to just get a basic working
<br\>version right now), but I'll consider any suggestions.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
-let me know when its ready.
<br\>
<br\>-- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>---------------------------------
<br\>I'm mostly caught up on stuff right now and I'm
<br\>thinking I'm going to try
<br\>to hammer out a preliminary version of the 2600
<br\>sequencer that I've talked
<br\>about doing.
<br\>
<br\>So my main motivation behind the creation of this
<br\>program is to have an
<br\>easy efficient way to try out musical ideas on a real
<br\>2600, and then be
<br\>able to use the patterns on my Atari 2600 Sequencer
<br\>kit.  But I plan to set
<br\>it up so you could also just use it as sort of a drum
<br\>machine or limited
<br\>seqeuncer for a live performance.  And eventually I
<br\>plan on adding support
<br\>for saving sequences to flash RAM either through the
<br\>AtariVox or another
<br\>memory device.  I have working models of both devices
<br\>BTW.
<br\>
<br\>The operation will be similar to the sequencer kit.
<br\>There will be
<br\>subpatterns (the equivalent of a quarter of a measure)
<br\>which will be
<br\>sequenced into patterns (each pattern has 4
<br\>subpatterns) and then patterns
<br\>can be sequenced into a mini-song.  It will also
<br\>include the "high hat"
<br\>rhythm feature.  Currently it looks like I'll be able
<br\>to have 8
<br\>subpatterns, 8 patterns, and 8 measures in a song.
<br\>I'll add more if
<br\>possible, but remember the 2600 only has 128 bytes of
<br\>RAM.
<br\>
<br\>When you have created something you like, you'll be
<br\>able to display the
<br\>subpattern data as simple numeric data that can be
<br\>used with the Sequencer Kit.
<br\>
<br\>I plan on allowing you to keep the sequence playing no
<br\>matter what you're
<br\>doing, so you can edit anything and hear the results
<br\>immediately.  And I'll
<br\>incorporate data from my Music Programming guide,
<br\>allowing you to limit the
<br\>subpattern editor to only sets of notes that are
<br\>generally are in tune with
<br\>one another.
<br\>
<br\>If anyone has any ideas about features they might
<br\>want, let me know.  Can't
<br\>guarantee I'll include them (and I'm aiming to just
<br\>get a basic working
<br\>version right now), but I'll consider any suggestions.
<br\>
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<br\>
Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>If anyone has any ideas about features they might want, let me know.  Can't
<br\>>guarantee I'll include them (and I'm aiming to just get a basic working
<br\>>version right now), but I'll consider any suggestions.
<br\>>
<br\>     A) Portamento
<br\>
<br\>     B) MIDI control of motorized lasers for in-sync DJ and animation effects
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>     I'll leave it up to you to pick either one.  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hi Paul:
<br\>It's really cool that you are starting that project.
<br\>Will the subpaterns be interchangeable between
<br\>diferent patterns and chanels?
<br\>I would let more memory available, right?
<br\>(Excuse my little english and no programing
<br\>understanding :)
<br\>maybe some kind of basic arpegiator???? some to do
<br\>octave baselines easier? mayibe is a waste of space?
<br\>
<br\>I can (still?) no program but I always dreamed about a
<br\>Sega Genesis cartridge that let you produce music and
<br\>also use the hardware sampling capability.
<br\>I wonder about a kind of logical easy editor that let
<br\>you "draw" or "mark" mirrors in pitch or in rhythm, so
<br\>you select the repetition rhythm by 8th figures or by
<br\>periods of 3 16th (like house base grooves) and a
<br\>mirror marker or restart marker make the (kinda)
<br\>apregiator bounce the rhythm backwards or the pitch in
<br\>the oposite direction (maybe a section for icon based
<br\>secuence for pitch and another for rhythm? )
<br\>Ok, maybe it sounds a little confusing, but maybe you
<br\>can get some useful idea?
<br\>
<br\>Anyways, the sega genesis would be a great musical
<br\>instrument when its so available, cheap, and fully
<br\>featured ( fm, fx chip and sampling) uh, and that
<br\>dirty sound... :) against the wide and dificult fm
<br\>synthesis programing method.
<br\>
<br\>Please, Keep your great work :)))
<br\>
<br\>Best Regards. Ignatz.
<br\>PS: the dotmatrix demos got excelent music programing,
<br\>man, you are really skilled, a fucking genious!
<br\>
<br\>Visit me!
<br\>www.neotericz.web1000.com
<br\>www.ignatz.8k.com
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>  --- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> escribió:
<br\>> I'm mostly caught up on stuff right now and I'm
<br\>> thinking I'm going to try
<br\>> to hammer out a preliminary version of the 2600
<br\>> sequencer that I've talked
<br\>> about doing.
<br\>>
<br\>> So my main motivation behind the creation of this
<br\>> program is to have an
<br\>> easy efficient way to try out musical ideas on a
<br\>> real 2600, and then be
<br\>> able to use the patterns on my Atari 2600 Sequencer
<br\>> kit.  But I plan to set
<br\>> it up so you could also just use it as sort of a
<br\>> drum machine or limited
<br\>> seqeuncer for a live performance.  And eventually I
<br\>> plan on adding support
<br\>> for saving sequences to flash RAM either through the
<br\>> AtariVox or another
<br\>> memory device.  I have working models of both
<br\>> devices BTW.
<br\>>
<br\>> The operation will be similar to the sequencer kit.
<br\>> There will be
<br\>> subpatterns (the equivalent of a quarter of a
<br\>> measure) which will be
<br\>> sequenced into patterns (each pattern has 4
<br\>> subpatterns) and then patterns
<br\>> can be sequenced into a mini-song.  It will also
<br\>> include the "high hat"
<br\>> rhythm feature.  Currently it looks like I'll be
<br\>> able to have 8
<br\>> subpatterns, 8 patterns, and 8 measures in a song.
<br\>> I'll add more if
<br\>> possible, but remember the 2600 only has 128 bytes
<br\>> of RAM.
<br\>>
<br\>> When you have created something you like, you'll be
<br\>> able to display the
<br\>> subpattern data as simple numeric data that can be
<br\>> used with the Sequencer Kit.
<br\>>
<br\>> I plan on allowing you to keep the sequence playing
<br\>> no matter what you're
<br\>> doing, so you can edit anything and hear the results
<br\>> immediately.  And I'll
<br\>> incorporate data from my Music Programming guide,
<br\>> allowing you to limit the
<br\>> subpattern editor to only sets of notes that are
<br\>> generally are in tune with
<br\>> one another.
<br\>>
<br\>> If anyone has any ideas about features they might
<br\>> want, let me know.  Can't
<br\>> guarantee I'll include them (and I'm aiming to just
<br\>> get a basic working
<br\>> version right now), but I'll consider any
<br\>> suggestions.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
>Will the subpaterns be interchangeable between
<br\>>diferent patterns and chanels?
<br\>
<br\>Yes.
<br\>
<br\>>maybe some kind of basic arpegiator???? some to do
<br\>>octave baselines easier? mayibe is a waste of space?
<br\>
<br\>possibly.  Portamento and an arpeggiator are good ideas and may be
<br\>possible, but probably won't be in the first version.
<br\>
<br\>This will probably be a program that I'll have Albert make available as a
<br\>bare socketed board so that the EPROM can easily be upgraded when new
<br\>versions come out.
<br\>
<br\>>I can (still?) no program but I always dreamed about a
<br\>>Sega Genesis cartridge that let you produce music and
<br\>>also use the hardware sampling capability.
<br\>
<br\>Genesis music programming is something I've very seriously considered and
<br\>actually investigated a bit.  I still haven't found an easy way to get
<br\>programs onto a real Genesis cartridge, but it certainly could happen in
<br\>the future.  I want a music program that works with the light gun!
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I love the idea of the sequencer. Keep me in the......loop
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> I'm mostly caught up on stuff right now and I'm thinking I'm going
<br\>to try
<br\>> to hammer out a preliminary version of the 2600 sequencer that I've
<br\>talked
<br\>> about doing.
<br\>>
<br\>> So my main motivation behind the creation of this program is to have an
<br\>> easy efficient way to try out musical ideas on a real 2600, and then be
<br\>> able to use the patterns on my Atari 2600 Sequencer kit.  But I plan
<br\>to set
<br\>> it up so you could also just use it as sort of a drum machine or
<br\>limited
<br\>> seqeuncer for a live performance.  And eventually I plan on adding
<br\>support
<br\>> for saving sequences to flash RAM either through the AtariVox or
<br\>another
<br\>> memory device.  I have working models of both devices BTW.
<br\>>
<br\>> The operation will be similar to the sequencer kit.  There will be
<br\>> subpatterns (the equivalent of a quarter of a measure) which will be
<br\>> sequenced into patterns (each pattern has 4 subpatterns) and then
<br\>patterns
<br\>> can be sequenced into a mini-song.  It will also include the "high hat"
<br\>> rhythm feature.  Currently it looks like I'll be able to have 8
<br\>> subpatterns, 8 patterns, and 8 measures in a song.  I'll add more if
<br\>> possible, but remember the 2600 only has 128 bytes of RAM.
<br\>>
<br\>> When you have created something you like, you'll be able to display the
<br\>> subpattern data as simple numeric data that can be used with the
<br\>Sequencer Kit.
<br\>>
<br\>> I plan on allowing you to keep the sequence playing no matter what
<br\>you're
<br\>> doing, so you can edit anything and hear the results immediately.
<br\>And I'll
<br\>> incorporate data from my Music Programming guide, allowing you to
<br\>limit the
<br\>> subpattern editor to only sets of notes that are generally are in
<br\>tune with
<br\>> one another.
<br\>>
<br\>> If anyone has any ideas about features they might want, let me know.
<br\>  Can't
<br\>> guarantee I'll include them (and I'm aiming to just get a basic working
<br\>> version right now), but I'll consider any suggestions.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, I G natz <quiebre@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Hi Paul:
<br\>> It's really cool that you are starting that project.
<br\>> Will the subpaterns be interchangeable between
<br\>> diferent patterns and chanels?
<br\>> I would let more memory available, right?
<br\>> (Excuse my little english and no programing
<br\>> understanding :)
<br\>> maybe some kind of basic arpegiator???? some to do
<br\>> octave baselines easier? mayibe is a waste of space?
<br\>
<br\>I want to e able to play the sounds in unison mode for cool phasin
<br\>effects!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> Anyways, the sega genesis would be a great musical
<br\>> instrument when its so available, cheap, and fully
<br\>> featured ( fm, fx chip and sampling) uh, and that
<br\>> dirty sound... :) against the wide and dificult fm
<br\>> synthesis programing method.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>A little OT but this is already possible
<br\>
<br\>http://randomsonicnet.org/srz/s2music/utilities.html
<br\>
<br\>This allows you to hack midi files into a sonic 1 beta. You can load
<br\>in sound banks from the tx81z and hack the rom to use your own psg
<br\>files and sound samples. You can then play the songs on real hardware
<br\>by ripping the music to gym format and playing it using this flashcart
<br\>
<br\>http://www.tototek.com/pio/main1/SUBMENU/PARTS/LINKS/OS/mdpro64plus.htm
<br\>
<br\>I would love to do the first ori. scene music for the genesis but
<br\>havent had time to mess with the program with school this semster.
<br\>
<br\>id grab th files at least cause since i've discovered it the mirrors
<br\>have begun dropping, and the author wont allow it to be posted
<br\>anywhere else....
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>http://www.tototek.com/pio/main1/SUBMENU/PARTS/LINKS/OS/mdpro64plus.htm
<br\>>
<br\>>I would love to do the first ori. scene music for the genesis but
<br\>>havent had time to mess with the program with school this semster.
<br\>
<br\>Wow, that's awesome!  So the 64MB cart is required for this?  Cause there's
<br\>the 32MB cart that's cheaper.
<br\>
<br\>I use a DOS PC with a SoundBlaster16 and OPL3 FM chip for a lot of my
<br\>stuff.  It's VERY similar to the Genesis FM chip...
<br\>
<br\>Where did you find out about this?  Any chance you've seen a Genesis cart
<br\>board that will accept EPROMs to make your own custom cart?
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> Wow, that's awesome!  So the 64MB cart is required for this?  Cause
<br\>there's
<br\>> the 32MB cart that's cheaper.
<br\>>
<br\>> I use a DOS PC with a SoundBlaster16 and OPL3 FM chip for a lot of my
<br\>> stuff.  It's VERY similar to the Genesis FM chip...
<br\>
<br\>i got the tx81z for free, so it is very easy to mess around to get
<br\>sound banks. Eventually I am going to start making additional sound
<br\>banks to use with this program
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> Where did you find out about this?  Any chance you've seen a Genesis
<br\>cart
<br\>> board that will accept EPROMs to make your own custom cart?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>ove found about it round about. THe 64mb is not equire for this (the
<br\>program on cart is only one meg) it is just that the 64mb is only a
<br\>little bit more, and has the option for 32x support, should that every
<br\>arise. I have also found a simple gym player, and the software for the
<br\>cart automatiacally makes a multi cart when you burn more than one rom
<br\>to cart. So the development cycle can be on of two ways ( in theory)
<br\>
<br\>1) develop sounds using tx81z, or grabs one of the THOUSANDS(really)
<br\>of sound banks available on the net for this
<br\>
<br\>2) generate the midi sequences. You will meed a seqencer that can
<br\>export as a midi type one file, because you will need to sperate the
<br\>channels into the midi sequence per channel. Hopefully if they written
<br\>in sequence togehter they will pla in sync once it gets on the cart.
<br\>
<br\>3) apply the sonic qx program toa  copy of the sonic 2 beta (ONLY
<br\>works on sonic 2). There is also a mod that allows you to
<br\>automatiacally skip levels, so you can just use the genesys controller
<br\>to warp from level to level, and let the backoround music play
<br\>
<br\>OR
<br\>
<br\>Using an emulator rip the music into a GYM file, then use a program
<br\>called Flavio's GYM Player. This can basically turn any one GYM file
<br\>into a rom where the song loops endlessly. The instructions to use the
<br\>ROM is on the rom once you load it into a emulator.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>The multi cart proabaly would be more handy to play songs, as you dont
<br\>have to worry about hitting a button by mistake and making a jump
<br\>sound or something. I am unaware of any tools to edit GYM files or
<br\>whatever, as I have to read more info on the genecyst emulator. Again
<br\>sorry for being OT, if anyone has a hard time finding the files (as I
<br\>did) feel free to email me privately as they are not allowed to be
<br\>distrubted without the auhtor;s permission (which I am trying to
<br\>obtain for my site)....
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Peter
<br\>PS: Paul you might be also intersted to follow the developmenet of this:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.midibox.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=concepts;action=display;num=1\
<br\>097888567
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Thanks for all the great info Peter.  :o)  I'll probably be ordering one of
<br\>those flash carts next week.
<br\>
<br\>I've made some progress on the 2600 sequencer.  I'm going to have to cut
<br\>out a couple of patterns since memory is EXTREMELY tight, but I don't think
<br\>that should affect it that much.  So it'll support 8 subpatterns, 6
<br\>patterns, and an 8 measure song.
<br\>
<br\>Here's a current screenshot:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.qotile.net/temp/seq.gif
<br\>
<br\>I expect to have the basic sequencer functions working this weekend.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Awesome Paul!
<br\>I had a blast figuring out how to make grooves with the sequencing
<br\>kit a year or so ago. Sounds like I'll be dusting off my atari pretty
<br\>soon to mess around with this program.
<br\>If memory is really an issue, you might consider making a beefed up
<br\>version for emulators, cuttlecarts, etc.
<br\>I'd like to see a feature where you could retrigger the 8 pattern
<br\>sequence with a switch, this simple feature would allow you to keep
<br\>in sync better with other machines, create live rhythmic variations,
<br\>and other possibilites.
<br\>theres my 2 cents right now.. i'll think about it more over the long
<br\>weekend.
<br\>peace,
<br\>Thom
<br\>www.burnkit2600.com
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> Thanks for all the great info Peter.  :o)  I'll probably be
<br\>ordering one of
<br\>> those flash carts next week.
<br\>>
<br\>> I've made some progress on the 2600 sequencer.  I'm going to have
<br\>to cut
<br\>> out a couple of patterns since memory is EXTREMELY tight, but I
<br\>don't think
<br\>> that should affect it that much.  So it'll support 8 subpatterns, 6
<br\>> patterns, and an 8 measure song.
<br\>>
<br\>> Here's a current screenshot:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.qotile.net/temp/seq.gif
<br\>>
<br\>> I expect to have the basic sequencer functions working this weekend.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
paul you are amazing, treewave kicks ass and so do all of your
<br\>programs and now you're doing the sequencer cart and putting out the
<br\>cynthcart you are awesome, no one else puts as much time and effort
<br\>into the little things like making music on my atari like you do and
<br\>i would like to thank you. If memory is such a problem why don't you
<br\>have atariage put your program on the krokodilekart so you can use
<br\>that and make the program bigger. the cartridge will be more
<br\>expensive but you can include other features that aren't available. i
<br\>am also really hoping that you decided to make a tracker for genesis
<br\>that would incredible and thank you again.
<br\>-eddie
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "djdsl_tru" <dsl_tru@h...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Awesome Paul!
<br\>> I had a blast figuring out how to make grooves with the sequencing
<br\>> kit a year or so ago. Sounds like I'll be dusting off my atari
<br\>pretty
<br\>> soon to mess around with this program.
<br\>> If memory is really an issue, you might consider making a beefed up
<br\>> version for emulators, cuttlecarts, etc.
<br\>> I'd like to see a feature where you could retrigger the 8 pattern
<br\>> sequence with a switch, this simple feature would allow you to keep
<br\>> in sync better with other machines, create live rhythmic
<br\>variations,
<br\>> and other possibilites.
<br\>> theres my 2 cents right now.. i'll think about it more over the
<br\>long
<br\>> weekend.
<br\>> peace,
<br\>> Thom
<br\>> www.burnkit2600.com
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> > Thanks for all the great info Peter.  :o)  I'll probably be
<br\>> ordering one of
<br\>> > those flash carts next week.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I've made some progress on the 2600 sequencer.  I'm going to have
<br\>> to cut
<br\>> > out a couple of patterns since memory is EXTREMELY tight, but I
<br\>> don't think
<br\>> > that should affect it that much.  So it'll support 8 subpatterns,
<br\>6
<br\>> > patterns, and an 8 measure song.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Here's a current screenshot:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > http://www.qotile.net/temp/seq.gif
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I expect to have the basic sequencer functions working this
<br\>weekend.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello,
<br\>
<br\>I am new to the Synthcart world, and I need some help in getting
<br\>started. I bought the Synthcart from AA, and now I want to get direct
<br\>audio out. After doing some research in the internet, I saw the
<br\>following demodulator:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.techbuys.net/tv-325.html
<br\>
<br\>Is this going to work? What other suggestions.
<br\>
<br\>Also, there will be great if someone could send me some tips about
<br\>using Synthcart.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks! F.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I am new to the Synthcart world, and I need some help in getting
<br\>>started. I bought the Synthcart from AA, and now I want to get direct
<br\>>audio out. After doing some research in the internet, I saw the
<br\>>following demodulator:
<br\>>
<br\>>http://www.techbuys.net/tv-325.html
<br\>
<br\>That's a modulator, not a demodulator.  It does the opposite of what you want.
<br\>
<br\>But the cheapest way is to just get an old VCR with Audio/Video out.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>I am new to the Synthcart world, and I need some help in getting
<br\>>started. I bought the Synthcart from AA, and now I want to get direct
<br\>>audio out.
<br\>
<br\>If you feel confident with a soldering iron you can install your own direct
<br\>audio out connection:
<br\>http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/HowToMAIN.htm
<br\>
<br\>There are instructions on installing composite video (and audio) connections
<br\>for 4 and 6 switch atari's as well as the atari junior.  I put a 1/4 inch
<br\>female plug on mine- now I can use a regular guitar cable/amp.
<br\>
<br\>>Also, there will be great if someone could send me some tips about
<br\>>using Synthcart.
<br\>
<br\>have you checked out light show mode yet?  From paul's website:
<br\>
<br\>- Easter egg: secret light show mode that displays color patterns based on
<br\>sound output. To activate, put the scale on "major" and put the left keypad
<br\>on "pitfall" or "saw" and play the notes: 4 7 8 9 8 9.
<br\>
<br\>Memorize the menus/settings so that you can leave this on all the time.
<br\>-sean
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Currently calling it the LoopCart as you can see.
<br\>
<br\>I've just about finished the main display and mapped out the RAM in full
<br\>detail for the entire program.  The screenshot I posted before was an
<br\>actual 2600 screenshot, but it was just displaying static text.  It can now
<br\>display actual music data from RAM and also shows a moveable cursor.
<br\>
<br\>Tonight I'll start converting the music driver to run out of the RAM data
<br\>instead of ROM data.  Then I'll start adding the controller code that
<br\>allows you to move the cursor around and change values.  I expect to have
<br\>something to play with by the end of the week.
<br\>
<br\>On the [stella] list we've been hammering out the details of the file
<br\>saving format for the AtariVox EEPROM, so that should be finalized
<br\>soon.  The device will allow you to save up to 128 loop sequences.  And I
<br\>think it will be possible to load a new loop sequence without stopping the
<br\>player (which will be awesome for live performance.)
<br\>
<br\>It looks like I will be able to add limited support for the voice chip on
<br\>the AtariVox as well (which sounds really cool BTW).
<br\>
<br\>And I'm trying to keep the whole thing under 4K so that eventually, I could
<br\>write a version that runs on the Supercharger cartridge and make use of the
<br\>extra 2K of RAM.  But a regular cartridge version is my main priority right
<br\>now.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
where do i buy it from?
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>---------------------------------
<br\>Currently calling it the LoopCart as you can see.
<br\>
<br\>I've just about finished the main display and mapped
<br\>out the RAM in full
<br\>detail for the entire program.  The screenshot I
<br\>posted before was an
<br\>actual 2600 screenshot, but it was just displaying
<br\>static text.  It can now
<br\>display actual music data from RAM and also shows a
<br\>moveable cursor.
<br\>
<br\>Tonight I'll start converting the music driver to run
<br\>out of the RAM data
<br\>instead of ROM data.  Then I'll start adding the
<br\>controller code that
<br\>allows you to move the cursor around and change
<br\>values.  I expect to have
<br\>something to play with by the end of the week.
<br\>
<br\>On the [stella] list we've been hammering out the
<br\>details of the file
<br\>saving format for the AtariVox EEPROM, so that should
<br\>be finalized
<br\>soon.  The device will allow you to save up to 128
<br\>loop sequences.  And I
<br\>think it will be possible to load a new loop sequence
<br\>without stopping the
<br\>player (which will be awesome for live performance.)
<br\>
<br\>It looks like I will be able to add limited support
<br\>for the voice chip on
<br\>the AtariVox as well (which sounds really cool BTW).
<br\>
<br\>And I'm trying to keep the whole thing under 4K so
<br\>that eventually, I could
<br\>write a version that runs on the Supercharger
<br\>cartridge and make use of the
<br\>extra 2K of RAM.  But a regular cartridge version is
<br\>my main priority right
<br\>now.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
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<br\>
>where do i buy it from?
<br\>
<br\>My new sequencer and the AtariVox will eventually be available in the
<br\>Atariage store.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Amazing!  I'm a big fan of the supercharger idea.
<br\>
<br\>-sean
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
One more thought:
<br\>
<br\>Will the loopcart offer more precise tempo settings?  I would say that is
<br\>the biggest drawback when it comes to synching with other instruments.
<br\>
<br\>-sean
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Will the loopcart offer more precise tempo settings?  I would say that is
<br\>>the biggest drawback when it comes to synching with other instruments.
<br\>
<br\>It will be more precise than the Synthcart, and I believe I will be able to
<br\>make more of the tempos fall on round numbers or on even divisions of BPMs
<br\>(like 115.5).  A while back I found that if the picture is drawn with a
<br\>specific number of scanlines, the tempos fall like this.  Still don't know
<br\>how precise the tempo adjustment will be though.
<br\>
<br\>But I'm going to try to include a feature where you can tap the tempo and
<br\>it will intelligently adjust to what you're tapping.  And also I'm going to
<br\>try to include a mode where the Atari receives external sync through the
<br\>joystick port.  I don't plan on offering any device that will support it at
<br\>this time, but if the feature is there, something can be built later on to
<br\>support it.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Paul, fellow synthcart fellows and ladies
<br\>
<br\>  I've used quite a few different pieces of tech with "Tap Tempo" buttons, and
<br\>I'd like
<br\>to offer up my experience with them, and a few thoughts.
<br\>  I know Paul, you've probably used a few things with tap tempo youself, but,
<br\>other
<br\>people on the list might not have, so, sorry if I sound condescending, not the
<br\>intention!
<br\>
<br\>hardware button:
<br\>if you've got a physical button to tap on, most equipment I've used averages
<br\>three or 4
<br\>taps before it changes/sets the tempo. My Dx200, for example, needs three taps,
<br\>and it
<br\>takes the average of those two times, and then for further taps, seems to only
<br\>take the
<br\>average of the last two taps.
<br\>  from a coding point of view /4 much better than /3, so, you'd probably wanna go
<br\>with 4
<br\>if you were doing that kind of averaging, but, then you've got to store 4
<br\>numbers,
<br\>several bytes each, then do calculations.
<br\>  In my experience, the ones that average over 4 taps or longer are the most
<br\>useful.
<br\>Could make yrself an atari joystick with a socket on the side to accept a
<br\>footswitch
<br\>for the go button. oh, wait, I've already got one of those :P
<br\>
<br\>I don't know if this method is doable in real-time mid pattern or not, but, I'm
<br\>suspecting not.
<br\>
<br\>electrical input:
<br\>if you had an input capability, joystick port, using, say, a 4066 analog switch
<br\>and a
<br\>few transistors to accept trigger in, perhaps a mode to instantaneously set the
<br\>tempo
<br\>to the new time-division would be useful. You could synch it to a tape machine,
<br\>with
<br\>tempo sweeps up and down, etc. However, I am aware that, again, the real-time
<br\>ness of
<br\>this in an atari 2600 is possibly pushing the limit a little bit.
<br\>
<br\>  with the input, would be pretty easy to make what old-school tape synch devices
<br\>used
<br\>to have, a notch filter, that way you could hone in the click signal to be kick,
<br\>snare,
<br\>hat, kitten tapping a ball of wool or something.
<br\>
<br\>  edward r jones
<br\>[the reverse engineers]
<br\>
<br\>http://reveng.sevcom.com/
<br\>
<br\>  --- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>---------------------------------
<br\>
<br\>>Will the loopcart offer more precise tempo settings?  I would say that is
<br\>>the biggest drawback when it comes to synching with other instruments.
<br\>
<br\>It will be more precise than the Synthcart, and I believe I will be able to
<br\>make more of the tempos fall on round numbers or on even divisions of BPMs
<br\>(like 115.5).  A while back I found that if the picture is drawn with a
<br\>specific number of scanlines, the tempos fall like this.  Still don't know
<br\>how precise the tempo adjustment will be though.
<br\>
<br\>But I'm going to try to include a feature where you can tap the tempo and
<br\>it will intelligently adjust to what you're tapping.  And also I'm going to
<br\>try to include a mode where the Atari receives external sync through the
<br\>joystick port.  I don't plan on offering any device that will support it at
<br\>this time, but if the feature is there, something can be built later on to
<br\>support it.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
ok so im trying to get a synthcart going, im the proud new owner of
<br\>an atari 2600 and a mess of games, and im bidding on some cx-50
<br\>keypad controlers, i will be buying synthcart right after i win
<br\>them, so i just want to make sure of a few things, will the cx-50
<br\>keypad controlers work with synthcart, http://search.ebay.com/atari-
<br\>2600-keypad_W0QQfromZR40QQsojsZ1 and another thing, i want to use
<br\>synthcart mainly for live drum sounds if possible, and i was reading
<br\>about how you can write beats in a prgram paul made, burn it to cd
<br\>and play it through somthing (the cuttle cart), and your set, but i
<br\>cant find a cuttle cart, is there an alternative? sorry for the dumb
<br\>questions, but i am incredibly siked about getting into this!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>about how you can write beats in a prgram paul made, burn it to cd
<br\>>and play it through somthing (the cuttle cart), and your set, but i
<br\>>cant find a cuttle cart, is there an alternative? sorry for the dumb
<br\>>questions, but i am incredibly siked about getting into this!
<br\>
<br\>yeah, the Supercharger cartridge will work too (and is much easier to find
<br\>and much less expensive.)  Also, the soon to be released Krokodile Kart
<br\>will work.  It's more expensive, but includes a lot of other cool features
<br\>that the Supercharger does not.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=291
<br\>
<br\>I'm also working on a new program that lets you create your own loops/beats
<br\>on the Atari.  Read some of the recent posts to find out more about it.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
I keep a Genesis just in the event someone like yourself makes a
<br\>synth for it! :) and a SNES for that matter...
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >Will the subpaterns be interchangeable between
<br\>> >diferent patterns and chanels?
<br\>>
<br\>> Yes.
<br\>>
<br\>> >maybe some kind of basic arpegiator???? some to do
<br\>> >octave baselines easier? mayibe is a waste of space?
<br\>>
<br\>> possibly.  Portamento and an arpeggiator are good ideas and may be
<br\>> possible, but probably won't be in the first version.
<br\>>
<br\>> This will probably be a program that I'll have Albert make
<br\>available as a
<br\>> bare socketed board so that the EPROM can easily be upgraded when
<br\>new
<br\>> versions come out.
<br\>>
<br\>> >I can (still?) no program but I always dreamed about a
<br\>> >Sega Genesis cartridge that let you produce music and
<br\>> >also use the hardware sampling capability.
<br\>>
<br\>> Genesis music programming is something I've very seriously
<br\>considered and
<br\>> actually investigated a bit.  I still haven't found an easy way to
<br\>get
<br\>> programs onto a real Genesis cartridge, but it certainly could
<br\>happen in
<br\>> the future.  I want a music program that works with the light gun!
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chvad_sb" <chvad_sb@h...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I keep a Genesis just in the event someone like yourself makes a
<br\>> synth for it! :) and a SNES for that matter...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Genesis nomad + Gensisynth cart (cathcy name huh) = rocksylvania@!
<br\>
<br\>This would be great (its odd to me that segadev is so small compared
<br\>to nes for example, but has way more resources available@!?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
where can i buy that?
<br\>
<br\>  --- Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm
<br\><kradlabs@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>---------------------------------
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chvad_sb"
<br\><chvad_sb@h...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I keep a Genesis just in the event someone like
<br\>yourself makes a
<br\>> synth for it! :) and a SNES for that matter...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Genesis nomad + Gensisynth cart (cathcy name huh) =
<br\>rocksylvania@!
<br\>
<br\>This would be great (its odd to me that segadev is so
<br\>small compared
<br\>to nes for example, but has way more resources
<br\>available@!?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
is it available in a physical format?
<br\>
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<br\>
<br\>---------------------------------
<br\>Hey U all, sorry for self promoting, but the words are
<br\>not mine. Anyways, please check it and give me some
<br\>feedback.
<br\>Best Regards. Ignacio
<br\>
<br\>"neotericz is the best nanoloops (pure? not?) stuff
<br\>i've heard. if
<br\>anyone has heard better please point it out, why
<br\>listen to anything
<br\>else? we all know that "Disco Bruit" comp put the
<br\>nanoewlps and
<br\>merzbow 2 fucking shame. now, lets get on with the
<br\>show!!!"
<br\>
<br\> ====
<br\>
<br\>UPDATED 2004-11-30:
<br\>http://mp3death.us/
<br\>
<br\>RELEASE:    M3D021
<br\>TITLE:      GREAT VIRTUAL FUN
<br\>ARTIST:     NEOTERICZ
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<br\>
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--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> so if i purchesed a Starpath Arcadia atari 2600 supercharger i
<br\>could write rythem tracks, or beat patterns on my computer, then burn
<br\>them as .bin files onto a cd and put the cd into a player, pull a
<br\>line from the player into the supercharger, and i get sound?
<br\>
<br\>i dont know.
<br\>is there some sort of software id have to load onto the atari fisrt?
<br\>
<br\>and on synthcart is there any freedom for beat pattern writeing?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> >about how you can write beats in a prgram paul made, burn it to cd
<br\>> >and play it through somthing (the cuttle cart), and your set, but i
<br\>> >cant find a cuttle cart, is there an alternative? sorry for the
<br\>dumb
<br\>> >questions, but i am incredibly siked about getting into this!
<br\>>
<br\>> yeah, the Supercharger cartridge will work too (and is much easier
<br\>to find
<br\>> and much less expensive.)  Also, the soon to be released Krokodile
<br\>Kart
<br\>> will work.  It's more expensive, but includes a lot of other cool
<br\>features
<br\>> that the Supercharger does not.
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=291
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm also working on a new program that lets you create your own
<br\>loops/beats
<br\>> on the Atari.  Read some of the recent posts to find out more about
<br\>it.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> is there some sort of software id have to load onto the atari fisrt?
<br\>>
<br\>> and on synthcart is there any freedom for beat pattern writeing?
<br\>
<br\>not directly... but you can take the source code and rewrite your own
<br\>patterns using the docs in the seqencer kit, recompile and then have
<br\>atariage make you a customer custom cart. I would read the seqeuncer
<br\>music guide to get a better feel how paul handles loops in his code...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>> > http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=291
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I'm also working on a new program that lets you create your own
<br\>> loops/beats
<br\>> > on the Atari.  Read some of the recent posts to find out more about
<br\>> it.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>toobad it requires an external power supply. I have so many things to
<br\>worry about plugging in, that the extranl wallwart makes that a deal
<br\>breaker for me....
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: questions from an excited newbie.

Message:
<br\>
>toobad it requires an external power supply. I have so many things to
<br\>>worry about plugging in, that the extranl wallwart makes that a deal
<br\>>breaker for me....
<br\>
<br\>That's only when programming the flash.  Once programmed, you don't need
<br\>it.  So you wouldn't have to take the supply to a gig.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> >toobad it requires an external power supply. I have so many things to
<br\>> >worry about plugging in, that the extranl wallwart makes that a deal
<br\>> >breaker for me....
<br\>>
<br\>> That's only when programming the flash.  Once programmed, you don't
<br\>need
<br\>> it.  So you wouldn't have to take the supply to a gig.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>hmmm so now I have an issue I think..
<br\>
<br\>correct me if i am wrong but you can either compile your beats and use
<br\>the kork cart to have a multicart with 15 custom syntcart "banks"
<br\>
<br\>or;
<br\>
<br\>wait for the loop cart and the atarivox and have all the goodies you
<br\>have desribed so far...
<br\>
<br\>will loopcart replace synthcart? that is will you still be able to
<br\>play melodies with keypads, or are you just limited to loops? I just
<br\>ask because my hardware list is already long... and I rather not buy
<br\>redundant gear...
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>correct me if i am wrong but you can either compile your beats and use
<br\>>the kork cart to have a multicart with 15 custom syntcart "banks"
<br\>
<br\>Not sure exactly how many ROMs it can support as a multicart, but yeah, I
<br\>believe you could store multiple Synthcart ROMs on there.
<br\>
<br\>>wait for the loop cart and the atarivox and have all the goodies you
<br\>>have desribed so far...
<br\>
<br\>Well, it'll be much easier to compose sequencer kit stuff or custom beats
<br\>for the Synthcart with the LoopCart.  But I'll be posting the ROM to this
<br\>list, so if you got a Krok cart and you're short on cash, you can just use
<br\>the ROM.
<br\>
<br\>>will loopcart replace synthcart? that is will you still be able to
<br\>>play melodies with keypads, or are you just limited to loops? I just
<br\>>ask because my hardware list is already long... and I rather not buy
<br\>>redundant gear...
<br\>
<br\>No, I think you'll be limited to beats.  There's not enough RAM to
<br\>implement all that stuff.  Maybe some really basic ability to trigger notes
<br\>and stuff if there's space.  I want to allow it to be used with a keyboard
<br\>controller or the joystick, but still haven't determined if that will be
<br\>possible.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>
<br\>> >wait for the loop cart and the atarivox and have all the goodies
<br\>you
<br\>> >have desribed so far...
<br\>>
<br\>> Well, it'll be much easier to compose sequencer kit stuff or custom
<br\>beats
<br\>> for the Synthcart with the LoopCart.  But I'll be posting the ROM
<br\>to this
<br\>> list, so if you got a Krok cart and you're short on cash, you can
<br\>just use
<br\>> the ROM.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>so you can use the 32k of ram on loop cart with the krok cart and
<br\>forego using the atarivox ? You would just miss out on any potnetnial
<br\>atarivox interface?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> >redundant gear...
<br\>>
<br\>> No, I think you'll be limited to beats.  There's not enough RAM to
<br\>> implement all that stuff.  Maybe some really basic ability to
<br\>trigger notes
<br\>> and stuff if there's space.  I want to allow it to be used with a
<br\>keyboard
<br\>> controller or the joystick, but still haven't determined if that
<br\>will be
<br\>> possible.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>ahh that makes sense. Itis pretty hard to play fast with the keyboard
<br\>controllers anyways, so the ability to melodic loops would probaly be
<br\>more musical...
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>so you can use the 32k of ram on loop cart with the krok cart and
<br\>>forego using the atarivox ? You would just miss out on any potnetnial
<br\>>atarivox interface?
<br\>
<br\>I could be wrong, but I don't think there's a way for Atari programs to
<br\>write to the NVRAM.
<br\>
<br\>Also worth mentioning: since the Krok doesn't support Supercharger format,
<br\>if I later do a version of the LoopCart that supports an extra 2K of RAM on
<br\>the Supercharger, you won't be able to use it on the Krok cart.  Krok does
<br\>support some of the RAM cart formats (like Superchip format), but I think
<br\>Supercharger format is the best choice since it gives the most RAM and
<br\>Superchargers can be had for about $30 (plus the Cuttle Cart and Cuttle
<br\>Cart II support SC format).
<br\>
<br\>I'll be posting a work-in-progress ROM of the LoopCart on here very soon
<br\>(maybe even later today).  You can check it out and get a feel for how it's
<br\>going to work and decide what you want to do.  And I think Eckhard is
<br\>adding emulation support for the Atarivox to Z26 (at least the EEPROM
<br\>portion of it).
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
is anyone using a pitch shifter with their synthcart to match it up
<br\>with other equipment live? and if so does anyone have any suggestions?
<br\>i was trying to play along with my gameboy and had no luck getting it
<br\>to match. of course i'm using pocket music, not lsdj or nanoloop. thanks.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Will the loopcart run on an unmodified supercharger?
<br\>


Subject:
will keypads work for loop cart, and does anyone use a c64

SubjectSrt:
will keypads work for loop cart, and does anyone use a c64

Message:
<br\>
will loop cart be programable useing keypad controlers? i just
<br\>bought some on ebay, and im waiting for loopcart to hit the market
<br\>so i can make some chip tune beats. in another topic, does anyone
<br\>here use a commodore 64 for music, i saw pauls program, i really
<br\>want to get one set up, ive found a setup, but i am computer
<br\>illiterate, and dont know how to get all these programs from files
<br\>on peoples websites onto a useable format like cassett tape or flopy
<br\>disk. i want to get one set up soon though.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
wait so the treewave album has an audio bin file i can copy to a c64
<br\>datacassette drive and load onto the c64? and then ive got the sound
<br\>program set? the one on pauls website? one more question mark for
<br\>good measure.....? there.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>> Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >>They album's out now :o)
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=285
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>-paul
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >
<br\>> >And the media blitz begins!!
<br\>> >
<br\>>     I've got the EP - it rocks... and not just because my name's
<br\>in it.  :)
<br\>>
<br\>> --
<br\>>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
You can check out the latest version of the LoopCart ROM, manual, and
<br\>source in this folder:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.qotile.net/temp/loopcart/
<br\>
<br\>I update it almost every day.  It's buggy and a lot of stuff isn't
<br\>implemented yet, but you can now edit the song, patterns, subpatterns, and
<br\>high hat pattern.  So you can actually program sequences.  Check out the
<br\>manual.txt file for basic instructions.
<br\>
<br\>To answer the last few questions:
<br\>
<br\>The loopcart should currently run on an unmodified Supercharger.  Not sure
<br\>if the final version will.  Depends on whether or not I run out of
<br\>space.  And at some point I may program a version specifically for the
<br\>Supercharger, but it will probably be a while before I get around to that.
<br\>
<br\>It will definitely use the joystick and may also support the keyboard
<br\>controllers, but I'm not sure about that yet.
<br\>
<br\>And yes, the Cabana EP+ does have the Cynthcart program as an audio file
<br\>included at the end of the last track.  You dub it to cassette and then can
<br\>load it using a C64 datassette.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
btw: if any of you with Superchargers/Cuttle Carts/etc. get it running and
<br\>come up with a really cool sequence, post an mp3 somewhere if you can.  I
<br\>need some example mp3s to post on the LoopCart project page (which is now
<br\>up at http://qotile.net/loopcart.html)
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Great work Paul!  I've been playing with it since last night... lots of fun. 
<br\>Expect an mp3
<br\>soon.  I also want to add that I'm really interested in your plans for a
<br\>supercharger version.
<br\>Way to keep it oldschool.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey Paul!
<br\>
<br\>I cant wait to play and ear your new LoopCart.
<br\>do you mind to add some MP3 exemples on your webpage.
<br\>when do you plan to have it available on AtariAge?
<br\>any idea about the loopcart price?
<br\>are you going to sell the AtariVox also?  price idea?
<br\>I listen to the AtariVox sound exemple it sont like abent
<br\>SpeakNspell.  verry nice verry nice.
<br\>
<br\>btw here is my blog http://cc6studio.blogspot.com/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> Currently calling it the LoopCart as you can see.
<br\>>
<br\>> I've just about finished the main display and mapped out the RAM
<br\>in full
<br\>> detail for the entire program.  The screenshot I posted before was
<br\>an
<br\>> actual 2600 screenshot, but it was just displaying static text.
<br\>It can now
<br\>> display actual music data from RAM and also shows a moveable
<br\>cursor.
<br\>>
<br\>> Tonight I'll start converting the music driver to run out of the
<br\>RAM data
<br\>> instead of ROM data.  Then I'll start adding the controller code
<br\>that
<br\>> allows you to move the cursor around and change values.  I expect
<br\>to have
<br\>> something to play with by the end of the week.
<br\>>
<br\>> On the [stella] list we've been hammering out the details of the
<br\>file
<br\>> saving format for the AtariVox EEPROM, so that should be finalized
<br\>> soon.  The device will allow you to save up to 128 loop
<br\>sequences.  And I
<br\>> think it will be possible to load a new loop sequence without
<br\>stopping the
<br\>> player (which will be awesome for live performance.)
<br\>>
<br\>> It looks like I will be able to add limited support for the voice
<br\>chip on
<br\>> the AtariVox as well (which sounds really cool BTW).
<br\>>
<br\>> And I'm trying to keep the whole thing under 4K so that
<br\>eventually, I could
<br\>> write a version that runs on the Supercharger cartridge and make
<br\>use of the
<br\>> extra 2K of RAM.  But a regular cartridge version is my main
<br\>priority right
<br\>> now.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>do you mind to add some MP3 exemples on your webpage.
<br\>
<br\>I'll post some tonight, but the sound capabilities are pretty much the same
<br\>as the sequencer kit, which you can listen to samples of here:
<br\>
<br\>http://qotile.net/sequencer.html
<br\>
<br\>The main difference is that you're limited to short 8 measure loops instead
<br\>of full songs.  However, if I manage to implement runtime loading (and I
<br\>don't see any reason why it won't work), you'll be able to string together
<br\>much longer sequences by loading new loops while it's playing.
<br\>
<br\>>when do you plan to have it available on AtariAge?
<br\>
<br\>probably in January.
<br\>
<br\>>any idea about the loopcart price?
<br\>
<br\>probably $25.
<br\>
<br\>>are you going to sell the AtariVox also?  price idea?
<br\>
<br\>Atariage is going to be selling that.  I think they're going to be $50.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
great news..
<br\>
<br\>btw the c64_3.mp3 (2.2MB) doesnt work..
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> >do you mind to add some MP3 exemples on your
<br\>> webpage.
<br\>>
<br\>> I'll post some tonight, but the sound capabilities
<br\>> are pretty much the same
<br\>> as the sequencer kit, which you can listen to
<br\>> samples of here:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://qotile.net/sequencer.html
<br\>>
<br\>> The main difference is that you're limited to short
<br\>> 8 measure loops instead
<br\>> of full songs.  However, if I manage to implement
<br\>> runtime loading (and I
<br\>> don't see any reason why it won't work), you'll be
<br\>> able to string together
<br\>> much longer sequences by loading new loops while
<br\>> it's playing.
<br\>>
<br\>> >when do you plan to have it available on AtariAge?
<br\>>
<br\>> probably in January.
<br\>>
<br\>> >any idea about the loopcart price?
<br\>>
<br\>> probably $25.
<br\>>
<br\>> >are you going to sell the AtariVox also?  price
<br\>> idea?
<br\>>
<br\>> Atariage is going to be selling that.  I think
<br\>> they're going to be $50.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
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<br\>
Hey!
<br\>You can download a zip file from
<br\>http://www.mp3death.us
<br\>
<br\>or more bitrated mp3s (of some tracks) from
<br\>http://www.neotericz.web1000.com
<br\>no cd or cdr yet...
<br\>but maybe soon... :)
<br\>
<br\>Cheers . Ignatz
<br\>
<br\>--- JOE YOUNG <xsxs@btinternet.com> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>  is it available in a physical format?
<br\>>
<br\>> --- I G natz <quiebre@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> ---------------------------------
<br\>> Hey U all, sorry for self promoting, but the words
<br\>> are
<br\>> not mine. Anyways, please check it and give me some
<br\>> feedback.
<br\>> Best Regards. Ignacio
<br\>>
<br\>> "neotericz is the best nanoloops (pure? not?) stuff
<br\>> i've heard. if
<br\>> anyone has heard better please point it out, why
<br\>> listen to anything
<br\>> else? we all know that "Disco Bruit" comp put the
<br\>> nanoewlps and
<br\>> merzbow 2 fucking shame. now, lets get on with the
<br\>> show!!!"
<br\>>
<br\>> ====
<br\>>
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<br\>> http://mp3death.us/
<br\>>
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<br\>>
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<br\>> blendent alian artist.
<br\>>
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<br\>> ruminatic elements,
<br\>> while all out smiles.
<br\>>
<br\>> the grotesque kissing
<br\>> and at the same timer.
<br\>>
<br\>> songs everal contributional sleepers.
<br\>> as on to the ultimate europe . . .
<br\>> the groovy minimal melodic rhythmic pulses
<br\>> definitely more control than french . . .
<br\>>
<br\>> electric techno are in the air
<br\>> for a truly lunatic
<br\>>
<br\>> URL:
<br\>> http://mp3death.us/
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Message:
<br\>
Could someone possibly give me a link to b&w switch mod that will
<br\>allow me to get full access to all of the sounds available on
<br\>synthcart?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Could someone possibly give me a link to b&w switch mod that will
<br\>>allow me to get full access to all of the sounds available on
<br\>>synthcart?
<br\>
<br\>All you have to do is attach some sort of non-momentary switch (toggle,
<br\>rocker, slider, push-on-push-off, etc) to the same two wires that the Pause
<br\>button is connected to.  The pause button is the B&W switch, the probably
<br\>is only that it's a momentary pushbutton.  You could also put a book or
<br\>something on your 7800 so that it holds down the pause button.  ;o)
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Haha.
<br\>
<br\>Awesome.
<br\>
<br\>I think I was confused because I was expecting something a lot more
<br\>complex.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks a lot!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ok, i need to get the pitch of my synthcart into some
<br\>more "aprochable/ usable" tuning, so ive herd of "Pitch shifters,"
<br\>so whats an example of one of these. can one be obtained for around
<br\>$100. my groups writeing stuff, we need atari like a smack fiend
<br\>needs his fix.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>ok, i need to get the pitch of my synthcart into some
<br\>>more "aprochable/ usable" tuning, so ive herd of "Pitch shifters,"
<br\>>so whats an example of one of these. can one be obtained for around
<br\>>$100. my groups writeing stuff, we need atari like a smack fiend
<br\>>needs his fix.
<br\>
<br\>I'm sure you can find something for under $100.  A lot of effects boxes
<br\>will do it.  Maybe something like an Alesis Quadraverb (which does a lot of
<br\>other effects too).
<br\>
<br\>Chorus actually is a pitch shifting effect.  In most effects boxes, to get
<br\>chorus it pitch shifts the sound a little and then recombines that with the
<br\>original signal.  Often you can turn chorus into a pitch shift just by
<br\>turning the "dry mix" to zero.  So if you already have something that does
<br\>a chorus, you might be able to DIY it.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I've added the ability to display the subpattern data in hex format so you
<br\>can use it directly with the sequencer kit, and I've got a few other
<br\>details working.  I spent a lot of time optimizing, so the program is the
<br\>same size as it was before I finished this new stuff (under 3K).  I'm going
<br\>to hammer out a few more things (tempo control, high hat settings, trip out
<br\>mode) and post a new ROM probably a little after Christmas.  Still looks
<br\>reasonable to have it finished in January.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
If we were all nice instead of naughty, we would have got it for Xmas!
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> mode) and post a new ROM probably a little after Christmas.  Still
<br\>looks
<br\>> reasonable to have it finished in January.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>   I'm going
<br\>> to hammer out a few more things (tempo control, high hat settings, trip out
<br\>> mode) and post a new ROM probably a little after Christmas.  Still looks
<br\>> reasonable to have it finished in January.
<br\>
<br\>awesome. i checked out the demo, very nice. i knew you'd do a trip out mode!
<br\>the background of the screen looks pretty trippy as it is...
<br\>
<br\>Can't wait to get a couple of these loopcarts going with the synthcart. I
<br\>imagine
<br\>they would all stay in tempo pretty well. And with the atarivox, it shouldn't be
<br\>too hard to set up songs and sets of patterns ahead of time to jam with.
<br\>
<br\>btw- i used the synthcart in an acoustic/electric jam with my roomates last
<br\>weekend. The noise patch makes a good drum kit!
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>= www.litmusound.com =
<br\>


Subject:
Re: will keypads work for loop cart, and does anyone use a c64

Message:
<br\>
I'm using a C64 with Paul's program, the overlay and a old atari
<br\>paddle controller. It's great! You can get an audio file of it off of
<br\>his  Treewave CD that you can load into the c64 with a tape drive.
<br\>
<br\>I'm counting the days until he releases this on Cartridge!!!!! DO IT!!! :)
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "ben" <zigstardust@h...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> will loop cart be programable useing keypad controlers? i just
<br\>> bought some on ebay, and im waiting for loopcart to hit the market
<br\>> so i can make some chip tune beats. in another topic, does anyone
<br\>> here use a commodore 64 for music, i saw pauls program, i really
<br\>> want to get one set up, ive found a setup, but i am computer
<br\>> illiterate, and dont know how to get all these programs from files
<br\>> on peoples websites onto a useable format like cassett tape or flopy
<br\>> disk. i want to get one set up soon though.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chvad_sb" <chvad_sb@h...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm using a C64 with Paul's program, the overlay and a old atari
<br\>> paddle controller. It's great! You can get an audio file of it off of
<br\>> his  Treewave CD that you can load into the c64 with a tape drive.
<br\>>
<br\>> I'm counting the days until he releases this on Cartridge!!!!! DO
<br\>IT!!! :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>check it!
<br\>
<br\>http://www.amiga.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=4442
<br\>
<br\>the periphereal the c64 really needs... a mmc/sd based flash cart
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>and this will "only" be about 50 euro..
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: will keypads work for loop cart, and does anyone use a c64

Message:
<br\>
where can i buy it
<br\>
<br\>Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chvad_sb" <chvad_sb@h...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I'm using a C64 with Paul's program, the overlay and a old atari
<br\>> > paddle controller. It's great! You can get an audio file of it off of
<br\>> > his  Treewave CD that you can load into the c64 with a tape drive.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > I'm counting the days until he releases this on Cartridge!!!!! DO
<br\>> IT!!! :)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> check it!
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.amiga.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=4442
<br\>>
<br\>> the periphereal the c64 really needs... a mmc/sd based flash cart
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> and this will "only" be about 50 euro..
<br\>>
<br\>> peter
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Message:
<br\>
happy new year
<br\>
<br\>from www.fabulous23s.com
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, 23 <xsxs@b...> wrote:
<br\>> where can i buy it
<br\>
<br\>It should be released in Feb...
<br\>
<br\>pete
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Paul Slocum wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>I'm sure you can find something for under $100.  A lot of effects boxes
<br\>>will do it.  Maybe something like an Alesis Quadraverb (which does a lot of
<br\>>other effects too).
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     I've used a Vocoder to get the Synthcart's beats to match pitches
<br\>with other instruments.  I've got the Warp Factory from Electrix which
<br\>isn't made anymore, but can be found on Ebay.  Alesis also has a multiFX
<br\>unit called Ineko that's really small and quite cheap on Ebay - it's not
<br\>as versatile as a MultiVerb since it has no display and you can't layer
<br\>effects, but you might be able to find one really cheap.
<br\>
<br\>     Alesis also makes these mini effects modules called ModFX.  Each one
<br\>is purpose built to do one thing, and the modules are pocket sized.
<br\>There is a Vocoder one as well as others that might do what you're
<br\>looking for.  I think that ModFX are pretty affordable as well.
<br\>
<br\>     Or pick up a Casio VA-10 - it's a Casio keyboard with a bunch of DSP
<br\>effects built in.  These can be found for anywhere from 90 cents at the
<br\>thrift store to $60 on Ebay.  :)
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Subject:
the perfect soundtrack to your impending insanity.

SubjectSrt:
the perfect soundtrack to your impending insanity.

Message:
<br\>
happy new year all!
<br\>
<br\>used to be old guys made toys for kids..now the kid's are making the
<br\>toys for us old guys..
<br\>
<br\>this month from http://ReceptorsMusic.com look for some preliminary
<br\>experimental tracks made with x|k's midiNES synth, Sidstation,Paul
<br\>slocum's new bin for Atari Loopcart and i finally got nanoloop 2!
<br\>Still using the trusty old nano 1.2 & lsdj 1.3 too of course.Even
<br\>having some guilty fun with the pocket music(for GB Color only of
<br\>course!)
<br\>
<br\>hmm..even though i was as naughty as possible last year i still got
<br\>everything i wanted..what's up with that?
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
so ive had the cabana ep for a while, and paul, i really like this
<br\>album, youre music is uber sweet, its like mogwai/ my bloody
<br\>valentine/ sigur ros/ on home electronics . super solid release man.
<br\>im eagerly awaiting a falowup. but my question is this, i have a
<br\>c64, and ive loaded programs off cassette multiple times, i use all
<br\>the prophet 64 programs alot. but after dubbing the wav bin file
<br\>from the ep to cassette i wasent able to make it load, has anyone
<br\>out there successfuly run the c64 synth program. ive redubbed it
<br\>multiple times but to no avail. anything i could be missing here?
<br\>thanks -ben
<br\>p.s. synthcart is one blockrocking beat machine.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>but after dubbing the wav bin file
<br\>>from the ep to cassette i wasent able to make it load, has anyone
<br\>>out there successfuly run the c64 synth program.
<br\>
<br\>I tested it thoroughly and several other people have got it to work without
<br\>problems.  If you're dubbing it from a PC, many sound cards invert the
<br\>audio waveform which will cause it to fail.  If that's the case, either dub
<br\>it from a regular CD player or use an audio editor to invert the audio data
<br\>before you dub it.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey Everyone
<br\>I just wanted to say I put online a track I made some
<br\>months ago with Mario Paint
<br\>It is called 'walk of the lizard'
<br\>It has a little animation (not included yet, but soon
<br\>;)
<br\>
<br\>If someone want to listen :
<br\>
<br\>http://www.neotericz.web1000.com/audio.htm
<br\>
<br\>Comments and criticz are wellcomed
<br\>
<br\>Greets. Ignat
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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Message:
<br\>
Hi
<br\>Last night I did the direct audio mod on my atari jr. and i'm getting
<br\>a hum in the output. The center wire is soldered directly to c19 and I
<br\>tried grounding to both the metal strip that touches the shielding and
<br\>then the center pin on the voltage regulator. I got the hum in both
<br\>cases. Has anyone else had this problem?
<br\>
<br\>I'm not sure if the hum is an RF issue or 60 Hz ground hum.
<br\>
<br\>-peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Paul has posted 2 Receptors loop demos performed on the current bin
<br\>file for the upcoming Atari 2600 Loopcart!
<br\>
<br\>go to Paul's site at  http://qotile.net
<br\>
<br\>thanks.
<br\>jksine
<br\>
<br\>http://ReceptorsMusic.com
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Kb Toys has these little commodore ona  chip deals in stock. Ive been
<br\>fighting the urge to get one for a few days, since I barely use my
<br\>REAL commodore, but broke down and bought one. Apperantley it is
<br\>completely hackable with the ability to add floppy and keyboard
<br\>support, and a fairly decent sid emulation (think somewhere better
<br\>than emulation but a little digital sounding). It sould be fairly
<br\>nontrivial to slap this "playing card" sized baord into a nice little
<br\>commodre handheld that hangs off a laptop port to run cynthcart no? :)
<br\>
<br\>I mntioned you can boot to basic right :)Puts the atari cart to shame
<br\>
<br\>http://www.orrville.net/dtvhacking/
<br\>
<br\>check it///
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ha, i was just going to post about this, but you beat me to it!
<br\>Yes, the dtv is a nifty little device.
<br\>
<br\>Instructions for adding a PS/2 keyboard, and the original disk drive can be
<br\>found here:
<br\>http://www.colmer.info/c64/default.asp
<br\>
<br\>more info here, plus the "easter eggs:"
<br\>http://home.wanadoo.nl/richard.lagendijk/Html%20pagina/COMP-C64-DTV-H
<br\>ack.htm
<br\>
<br\>My question to paul, and others is this-
<br\>how hard would it be to add an external "tape drive" to this? I put "tape drive"
<br\>in quotes, cuz i don't want to use the original tape drive, i want to be able to
<br\>hook up any portable mp3 player or whatever. How cool would it be to play a
<br\>show with this little joystick running cynthcart?
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello,
<br\>
<br\>Doesnt the tape drive work off the flooppy port? If it is the suer
<br\>port, then it will be much harder cause those pin connections are
<br\>hidden beneath a blob.. expert dremeling required!
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "kingconga42" <kingconga8@a...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> ha, i was just going to post about this, but you beat me to it!
<br\>> Yes, the dtv is a nifty little device.
<br\>>
<br\>> Instructions for adding a PS/2 keyboard, and the original disk drive
<br\>can be
<br\>> found here:
<br\>> http://www.colmer.info/c64/default.asp
<br\>>
<br\>> more info here, plus the "easter eggs:"
<br\>> http://home.wanadoo.nl/richard.lagendijk/Html%20pagina/COMP-C64-DTV-H
<br\>> ack.htm
<br\>>
<br\>> My question to paul, and others is this-
<br\>> how hard would it be to add an external "tape drive" to this? I put
<br\>"tape drive"
<br\>> in quotes, cuz i don't want to use the original tape drive, i want
<br\>to be able to
<br\>> hook up any portable mp3 player or whatever. How cool would it be to
<br\>play a
<br\>> show with this little joystick running cynthcart?
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>> Doesnt the tape drive work off the flooppy port? If it is the suer
<br\>> port, then it will be much harder cause those pin connections are
<br\>> hidden beneath a blob.. expert dremeling required!
<br\>
<br\>The cassette drive works on a custom port... "Datasette port"
<br\>
<br\>I believe it has a direct line in to the SID chip, which can decode the
<br\>cassette bleeps and bloops.
<br\>
<br\>Since the DTV doesn't have a real SID, I get the impression that only the
<br\>parts of the SID that were needed for the DTV are implemented... so i have
<br\>a feeling that that part of the SID is not supported. :(
<br\>
<br\>Although, it's all just a hunch... I could be totally wrong.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>I say, make an XE-1541 cable, and plug it into the serial port you just
<br\>hacked into your DTV, and the other end into your PC. ;)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>-s
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>Scott "Jerry" Lawrence
<br\>sdlpci@cis.rit.edu
<br\>"You can't outlaw BBQ forks, because then only outlaws will have BBQ forks."
<br\>@(o_o)@   Monkey!
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
NEW YORK CITY- Modern Day Al Jolson, Beck Hansen has announced a new
<br\>chiptune only ep remix of some of his newest songs. The comp comes
<br\>months after a disastrous 8bit malfunction at the Coachella Festival.
<br\>Toilville Head Ceo, Peter Swimm, had this to say:
<br\>
<br\>"While its great to have mainstream exposure, it will probably come at
<br\>the expense of our collective dignity, as Mr. Hansen' interest
<br\>probably grows out of the same nostalgia behind the creation of Mario
<br\>Bros "Beeotch" shirts at Hot-topic, and the popularity of Knight rider
<br\>on DVD. In response to his attempt to represent our music, I call on
<br\>everyone in the chip music scene to remix, rewrite, or revanche any
<br\>Beck song you want and submit for release on Toilville's Next comp
<br\>project 'Rock the Plastic like a Man'."
<br\>
<br\>  Mr Swimm went on to explain the Deadline for submissions will be
<br\>March 22nd, With a major release on April 1st (seriously
<br\>
<br\>www.toilville.com
<br\>


Subject:
synthcart track w gameboy camera Video clips..

SubjectSrt:
synthcart track w gameboy camera Video clips..

Message:
<br\>
...more stuff this month from Nophase...
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>...here's some raw snippets(complete videos to come..) of pure
<br\>gameboy camera video directed by 17Left...
<br\>it's promo for 2 new tracks from RECEPTORS/MWA's upcoming 5 song
<br\>split EP & Video CD:
<br\>
<br\>1.RECEPTORS - My Secret Side(raw GBCamera Video clip dir by
<br\>17Left.a lsdj/NES/sid  track)
<br\>
<br\>2.MOMMY WAS an ASTEROID - SpeakFreak(raw GBCamera Video clip dir
<br\>by 17Left.an Atari Synthcart/NES track)
<br\>
<br\>go to AUDIO or VISUAL page at:
<br\>
<br\>http://ReceptorsMusic.com
<br\>
<br\>thanks.
<br\>
<br\>ksine
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So... I'm recording from my 2600 into my PC, overdubbing some
<br\>Synthcart stuff over some more Synthcart stuff and I realize that
<br\>since my PC is RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME I could also use an emulated
<br\>Synthcart simultaneously (duh!).  Well, I can't figure out where the
<br\>problem lies, but when I hit a key on my keyboard to play a note,
<br\>there is ~300-500 ms lag before the note actually sounds.  I've tried
<br\>it with z26 as the only program running, there's no stutters with the
<br\>beatbox tracks or anything like that and I've messed around with the
<br\>settings using the x26 front end.  Nada.  Oh and I'm running windows.
<br\>  Any help would be greatly appreciated....
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
How large is the program? I am asking to see if it would be compatible
<br\>with this:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.64hdd.com/64carts/
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>How large is the program? I am asking to see if it would be compatible
<br\>>with this:
<br\>>
<br\>>http://www.64hdd.com/64carts/
<br\>
<br\>less than 8k, maybe less than 4k.  The program is actually stored
<br\>compressed on the cartridge and decompresses into RAM when you boot.
<br\>
<br\>The Cynthcart is smaller than 8k anyway, but I did a presentation at one
<br\>point where I needed it to be smaller to fit everything.  And I like it
<br\>running out of RAM because it reduces the chance the bumping the cart will
<br\>cause the system to crash (to be avoided when playing live!!)  You can
<br\>actually remove the cartridge after it starts up and it'll continue to run
<br\>fine.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
ok..i had 2 different guys email me asking how to get ' a nanoloop
<br\>gameboy'...of course i sent them to Oliver's site and also told him
<br\>about synthcart...
<br\>
<br\>they both told me they heard about on CNN..?
<br\>one guy said he called nintendo and all over looking for
<br\>it..hehe..of course they knew nothing..
<br\>i'm happy he found me in a search...
<br\>
<br\>anyone see this cnn thing?
<br\>
<br\>jksine
<br\>
<br\>http://ReceptorsMusic.com
<br\>[ lo-bit futurist electro-funk space-punk ]
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://www.cncd.fi/aeeben/
<br\>
<br\>Its like the bastard daughter of cynthcart and prophet64:
<br\>
<br\>only mono but has patch memory....
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
hey guys, thought i'd take a break in pissing people everywhere off
<br\>and let yous know about the new look(thanks Buck O'Buckley!) and 2
<br\>lo-fi innovative live gameboy camera feed videos by 17Left :
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>ReceptorsMusic.com
<br\>
<br\>..with music by Mommy Was an Asteroid & Receptors ..music created
<br\>using gameboys , atari 2600 , nes & c64 chip.
<br\>
<br\>promo for the upcoming 7" ep...
<br\>
<br\>thanks
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>jeremy
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
How do you use synthcart. I just got mine today and
<br\>plugged it in my atari. When I turned it on I get the
<br\>main screen and a constant tone, I cant navigate to
<br\>anyother screens unless i use the game select switch
<br\>or the reset switch in which, I thne just get stuck in
<br\>those screens. I just need a little guidance to see if
<br\>this is normal or might I have a hardware issue.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>How do you use synthcart. I just got mine today and
<br\>>plugged it in my atari. When I turned it on I get the
<br\>>main screen and a constant tone, I cant navigate to
<br\>>anyother screens unless i use the game select switch
<br\>>or the reset switch in which, I thne just get stuck in
<br\>>those screens. I just need a little guidance to see if
<br\>>this is normal or might I have a hardware issue.
<br\>
<br\>Probably either you only have one keypad plugged in, or one of them isn't
<br\>working.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >How do you use synthcart. I just got mine today and
<br\>> >plugged it in my atari. When I turned it on I get the
<br\>> >main screen and a constant tone, I cant navigate to
<br\>> >anyother screens unless i use the game select switch
<br\>> >or the reset switch in which, I thne just get stuck in
<br\>> >those screens. I just need a little guidance to see if
<br\>> >this is normal or might I have a hardware issue.
<br\>>
<br\>> Probably either you only have one keypad plugged in, or one of
<br\>them isn't
<br\>> working.
<br\>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>
<br\>More then likely this is the issue, I have only been plugging in one
<br\>joystick at a time. Just to be sure, both joysticks are required to
<br\>get the program started?
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>More then likely this is the issue, I have only been plugging in one
<br\>>joystick at a time. Just to be sure, both joysticks are required to
<br\>>get the program started?
<br\>
<br\>hehe, you need two, but it doesn't work with joysticks.  you'll need two
<br\>keyboard controllers.  There are 3 types of keyboards: video touch pads,
<br\>kids controllers, and keyboard controllers.  I prefer the video touch pads,
<br\>but the kids controllers look really cool.  They can all be found pretty
<br\>easily on ebay, or maybe you could post on the Atariage marketplace forum.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yeah, each type of controller has its own strengths:
<br\>
<br\>-The video touch pad's rubber buttons are very comfortable AND there's
<br\>the sweet Bud Melvin designed overlay.
<br\>
<br\>-The kid's controller is big and blue and was endorsed by the
<br\>Children's Television Workshop.
<br\>
<br\>-The keyboard controllers can be attached to one another so it's
<br\>easier to hold both and totally rock out.  I almost exclusively use
<br\>the keyboard controllers for this reason, but I'll tell ya my fingers
<br\>get tired while holding 3 buttons for extended arpeggios.
<br\>
<br\>B
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >More then likely this is the issue, I have only been plugging in one
<br\>> >joystick at a time. Just to be sure, both joysticks are required to
<br\>> >get the program started?
<br\>>
<br\>> hehe, you need two, but it doesn't work with joysticks.  you'll need
<br\>two
<br\>> keyboard controllers.  There are 3 types of keyboards: video touch
<br\>pads,
<br\>> kids controllers, and keyboard controllers.  I prefer the video
<br\>touch pads,
<br\>> but the kids controllers look really cool.  They can all be found
<br\>pretty
<br\>> easily on ebay, or maybe you could post on the Atariage marketplace
<br\>forum.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Are there any scematics out there for these controllers, I would
<br\>like to take a shot at my own sort of design. But I think in the
<br\>mean time I may just purchase any 2 that I can find.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks for the info,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Brady Leo" <bradyleo@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> Yeah, each type of controller has its own strengths:
<br\>>
<br\>> -The video touch pad's rubber buttons are very comfortable AND
<br\>there's
<br\>> the sweet Bud Melvin designed overlay.
<br\>>
<br\>> -The kid's controller is big and blue and was endorsed by the
<br\>> Children's Television Workshop.
<br\>>
<br\>> -The keyboard controllers can be attached to one another so it's
<br\>> easier to hold both and totally rock out.  I almost exclusively use
<br\>> the keyboard controllers for this reason, but I'll tell ya my
<br\>fingers
<br\>> get tired while holding 3 buttons for extended arpeggios.
<br\>>
<br\>> B
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >More then likely this is the issue, I have only been plugging
<br\>in one
<br\>> > >joystick at a time. Just to be sure, both joysticks are
<br\>required to
<br\>> > >get the program started?
<br\>> >
<br\>> > hehe, you need two, but it doesn't work with joysticks.  you'll
<br\>need
<br\>> two
<br\>> > keyboard controllers.  There are 3 types of keyboards: video
<br\>touch
<br\>> pads,
<br\>> > kids controllers, and keyboard controllers.  I prefer the video
<br\>> touch pads,
<br\>> > but the kids controllers look really cool.  They can all be found
<br\>> pretty
<br\>> > easily on ebay, or maybe you could post on the Atariage
<br\>marketplace
<br\>> forum.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I should have looked in the files and links area before asking this
<br\>question. I did fins  the links to the schematic and some other
<br\>useful information.
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Jesse" <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Are there any scematics out there for these controllers, I would
<br\>> like to take a shot at my own sort of design. But I think in the
<br\>> mean time I may just purchase any 2 that I can find.
<br\>>
<br\>> Thanks for the info,
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Brady Leo" <bradyleo@y...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Yeah, each type of controller has its own strengths:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -The video touch pad's rubber buttons are very comfortable AND
<br\>> there's
<br\>> > the sweet Bud Melvin designed overlay.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -The kid's controller is big and blue and was endorsed by the
<br\>> > Children's Television Workshop.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -The keyboard controllers can be attached to one another so it's
<br\>> > easier to hold both and totally rock out.  I almost exclusively
<br\>use
<br\>> > the keyboard controllers for this reason, but I'll tell ya my
<br\>> fingers
<br\>> > get tired while holding 3 buttons for extended arpeggios.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > B
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > >More then likely this is the issue, I have only been plugging
<br\>> in one
<br\>> > > >joystick at a time. Just to be sure, both joysticks are
<br\>> required to
<br\>> > > >get the program started?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > hehe, you need two, but it doesn't work with joysticks.
<br\>you'll
<br\>> need
<br\>> > two
<br\>> > > keyboard controllers.  There are 3 types of keyboards: video
<br\>> touch
<br\>> > pads,
<br\>> > > kids controllers, and keyboard controllers.  I prefer the video
<br\>> > touch pads,
<br\>> > > but the kids controllers look really cool.  They can all be
<br\>found
<br\>> > pretty
<br\>> > > easily on ebay, or maybe you could post on the Atariage
<br\>> marketplace
<br\>> > forum.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
The last couple of messages have made me realize that it would be
<br\>relatively easy and really cool to build your own interface for
<br\>synthcart.. I currently use the keyboard controllers (the little ones that
<br\>hook together) and after playing with it for a few minutes my fingers hurt
<br\>like hell. If there's a schematic for the keypad controllers out there
<br\>please post a link.. I think I still have a couple of cables with
<br\>atari-type plugs in my box of Atari ST stuff I could use.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
The links section under the hardware folder of this
<br\>group are a couple of links to the pinouts of the
<br\>atari port for various types of controllers and a
<br\>schematic for the keypad controller.
<br\>
<br\>Goodluck,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- weevil@wileywiggins.com wrote:
<br\>> The last couple of messages have made me realize
<br\>> that it would be
<br\>> relatively easy and really cool to build your own
<br\>> interface for
<br\>> synthcart.. I currently use the keyboard controllers
<br\>> (the little ones that
<br\>> hook together) and after playing with it for a few
<br\>> minutes my fingers hurt
<br\>> like hell. If there's a schematic for the keypad
<br\>> controllers out there
<br\>> please post a link.. I think I still have a couple
<br\>> of cables with
<br\>> atari-type plugs in my box of Atari ST stuff I could
<br\>> use.
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Duhh... Looks like I responded too soon. Checking out the schematics now...
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Im building my own keypads as we speak, but I am
<br\>having some minor complications. I lookes at the 2
<br\>links and I cant tell what Im suppossed to do with pin
<br\>8. On one schematic its looks like its a shield the
<br\>other one not a schematic but a pinout desciption says
<br\>its negative, but this hasnt helped me to figure out
<br\>what Im suppossed to hook it up too. Any help would be
<br\>great I cant wait to get these keypads finished.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- weevil@wileywiggins.com wrote:
<br\>> Duhh... Looks like I responded too soon. Checking
<br\>> out the schematics now...
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
http://ami.ga/indexe.htm
<br\>
<br\>the mmc64 is shipping!
<br\>
<br\>**********
<br\>MMC64 is an MMC- and SD-card interface for the C64 computer. It uses
<br\>the multimedia and Secure Digital flash cards that are known from the
<br\>PDA world. That means that after you power up the computer, you can
<br\>access any MMC or SD card that's FAT16-formatted - up to the size of
<br\>4GB! The built-in and flashable BIOS with integrated file browser
<br\>allows the user to load games and other programs, play SID-files with
<br\>the built-in player, or write D64 images to a floppy drive.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>MMC64 has a clockport for expansions like RR-Net, and a pass-through
<br\>for other expansion cards. This pass-through is 100% compatible with
<br\>the Retro Replay - both expansions can be used in their full
<br\>functionality at the same time.
<br\>
<br\>***************
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
would anyone be willing to put these two programs on disks for me?
<br\>just name a price. thanks in advance.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
What do you mean by on disk?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- 2wm <killradio_13@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> would anyone be willing to put these two programs on
<br\>> disks for me?
<br\>> just name a price. thanks in advance.
<br\>>
<br\>> --2wm
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I just finished building a testcart today to test my
<br\>keypad controller that I recently built. They are both
<br\>working I jsut need to put them into a case. I used 2
<br\>16 key touch pads, but Im only using 12 of the keys on
<br\>each keypad. I did this cause they were only 2 bucks
<br\>each. I have tried to use them on synthcart and I dont
<br\>get any reaction from the program. Are there any
<br\>tutorials or instrustions to show me what to do Im
<br\>sorta lost right now.
<br\>
<br\>Unfortanately Im traveling outta town for about a week
<br\>and my atari is staying home, my PS2 gets to go with
<br\>me instead, I cant live without Socom. Anyway, any
<br\>info that can push my into the right direction would
<br\>be cool you all have been great help so far.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> What do you mean by on disk?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>the c-64 version of cynthcart. sorry if i wasn't very specific.
<br\>i mean on disk as in i pop a disk into my 1541 and load the program.
<br\>a 5 1/4" floppy. thanks.
<br\>
<br\>--2wm
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I want to make recordings with my synthcart, and i want to run the
<br\>audio direct to my board.  i've seen the different sites that have
<br\>the instructions on how to convert a 2600 to composite video, but
<br\>nobody that i've found offers the service, or sells converted
<br\>ataris.  does anyone out there know of a dealer that either sells
<br\>converted ataris, or does the conversion?  lol, i'm not good when it
<br\>comes to stuff like this, and would likely destroy my atari in the
<br\>process.  i'd really appreciate any input on this.  thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Well if what you want is just the audio out then it is actually very easy to do.
<br\>It is a matter
<br\>of soldering 2 wires to pin 12 and 13 of the atari audio chip and then 2 wires
<br\>to ground
<br\>and hook em up to some 1/4 inch outs.  you don't need to buy a whole board just
<br\>for the
<br\>audio.  - kBud
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Part of my problem is me not wnating to tool aorund
<br\>with the electronics in there.  And, if i do mod the
<br\>atari, i might was well go all out so i don't have to
<br\>deal with the GD switchbox anymore.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- kbudd777 <lifeinabox@gmail.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Well if what you want is just the audio out then it
<br\>> is actually very easy to do.  It is a matter
<br\>> of soldering 2 wires to pin 12 and 13 of the atari
<br\>> audio chip and then 2 wires to ground
<br\>> and hook em up to some 1/4 inch outs.  you don't
<br\>> need to buy a whole board just for the
<br\>> audio.  - kBud
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
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<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I can add a direct audio out and a better video out. It's pretty damn easy. I'd
<br\>do it if you covered
<br\>the shipping and a couple bucks to cover parts. I've done it to 4 and 6 switch
<br\>Ataris and atari jrs.
<br\>
<br\>If you happened to be in AZ you could just bring it over. All of my roomates
<br\>have the
<br\>modification and circuit bending bug bad. There's not much we haven't modified.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "mr5250" <mr5250@y...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> I want to make recordings with my synthcart, and i want to run the
<br\>> audio direct to my board.  i've seen the different sites that have
<br\>> the instructions on how to convert a 2600 to composite video, but
<br\>> nobody that i've found offers the service, or sells converted
<br\>> ataris.  does anyone out there know of a dealer that either sells
<br\>> converted ataris, or does the conversion?  lol, i'm not good when it
<br\>> comes to stuff like this, and would likely destroy my atari in the
<br\>> process.  i'd really appreciate any input on this.  thanks
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
On Mar 11, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Jeremy wrote:
<br\>> I can add a direct audio out and a better video out. It's pretty damn
<br\>> easy. I'd do it if you covered
<br\>> the shipping and a couple bucks to cover parts. I've done it to 4 and
<br\>> 6 switch Ataris and atari jrs.
<br\>>
<br\>> If you happened to be in AZ you could just bring it over. All of my
<br\>> roomates have the
<br\>> modification and circuit bending bug bad. There's not much we haven't
<br\>> modified.
<br\>
<br\>Done any work on PXL-2000's?
<br\>
<br\>I know that there are people that mod them on the net, but they charge
<br\>a fortune...  There are no docs on the net for bending PXLs, like there
<br\>are docs for bending Speak-and-Spells or Atari 2600s for example...
<br\>
<br\>-s
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>Done any work on PXL-2000's?
<br\>>
<br\>>I know that there are people that mod them on the net, but they charge
<br\>>a fortune...  There are no docs on the net for bending PXLs, like there
<br\>>are docs for bending Speak-and-Spells or Atari 2600s for example...
<br\>
<br\>There are, just have to look harder.  I'd post links but I don't have time
<br\>to find them right now.  You can also join the pxl2000 yahoo group.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Scott Lawrence <sdlpci@c...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> On Mar 11, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Jeremy wrote:
<br\>> > I can add a direct audio out and a better video out. It's pretty damn
<br\>> > easy. I'd do it if you covered
<br\>> > the shipping and a couple bucks to cover parts. I've done it to 4 and
<br\>> > 6 switch Ataris and atari jrs.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > If you happened to be in AZ you could just bring it over. All of my
<br\>> > roomates have the
<br\>> > modification and circuit bending bug bad. There's not much we haven't
<br\>> > modified.
<br\>>
<br\>> Done any work on PXL-2000's?
<br\>>
<br\>> I know that there are people that mod them on the net, but they charge
<br\>> a fortune...  There are no docs on the net for bending PXLs, like there
<br\>> are docs for bending Speak-and-Spells or Atari 2600s for example...
<br\>>
<br\>> -s
<br\>
<br\>I just got one at the Goodwill clearance outlet. So no, not yet (figures). But
<br\>soon.
<br\>
<br\>Have you joined here;  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pxl2000/   ?
<br\>and here:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/benders
<br\>or here  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bendersanonymous
<br\>
<br\>try searching wobblevision as well
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Jeremy wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>>one any work on PXL-2000's?
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>I just got one at the Goodwill clearance outlet. So no, not yet (figures). But
<br\>soon.
<br\>>
<br\>     I can't believe that you found a PXL-2000.  Wow!  I started
<br\>aggressively thrifting like 16 years ago with the express goal of
<br\>finding one, and I only just found one last year.  Lucky dog...  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
speaking of hotrodding ataris:
<br\>
<br\>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7307934233
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> speaking of hotrodding ataris:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7307934233
<br\>
<br\>hmm... i don't see what's "super circuitbent" about it.,..
<br\>good to see that someone finally did what we've all been thinking
<br\>about doing tho...
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>= www.litmusound.com =
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
kingconga42 wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>>
<br\>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7307934233
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>hmm... i don't see what's "super circuitbent" about it.,..
<br\>>good to see that someone finally did what we've all been thinking
<br\>>about doing tho...
<br\>>
<br\>     Funny to have left in the "feature" of a touchy cartridge port.  I'm
<br\>sure that's not done through hardware, but gate-level emulation.  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>> Jeremy wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >>one any work on PXL-2000's?
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >>
<br\>> >I just got one at the Goodwill clearance outlet. So no, not yet (figures).
<br\>But soon.
<br\>> >
<br\>>     I can't believe that you found a PXL-2000.  Wow!  I started
<br\>> aggressively thrifting like 16 years ago with the express goal of
<br\>> finding one, and I only just found one last year.  Lucky dog...  :)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --
<br\>>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>    modern filmmaker
<br\>
<br\>Haha, wow. I only paid 75 cents for it.
<br\>I didn't realize so many people cared about them. I handed it off to my buddy in
<br\>exchange for
<br\>two 2600 jr's.
<br\>I'm kicking myself and patting my back at the same time.
<br\>It's getting real hard to focus on composing music rather than just making and
<br\>collecting toys and
<br\>noise makers. I've got a real gadget addiction, but I think I have my live setup
<br\>down to 5
<br\>instruments and a mixer.  Simplify.
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Jeremy wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>Haha, wow. I only paid 75 cents for it.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     [sound of sharpening a machete]
<br\>
<br\>>I didn't realize so many people cared about them. I handed it off to my buddy
<br\>in exchange for
<br\>>two 2600 jr's.
<br\>>
<br\>     Okay - here's the deal.  If anyone on the list finds one, I'll give
<br\>you SEVEN 2600 Atari Juniors.  Okay?  SEVEN!!!!!!
<br\>
<br\>>I've got a real gadget addiction, but I think I have my live setup down to 5
<br\>>instruments and a mixer.
<br\>>
<br\>     Weren't we once talking about suffering from Gear Acquisition
<br\>Syndrome?  I may be one of the cult leaders of that austere group.  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>     Okay - here's the deal.  If anyone on the list finds one, I'll give
<br\>> you SEVEN 2600 Atari Juniors.  Okay?  SEVEN!!!!!!
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>Next one is all yours then.
<br\>
<br\>>     Weren't we once talking about suffering from Gear Acquisition
<br\>> Syndrome?  I may be one of the cult leaders of that austere group.  :)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>Not you and I. I aquire a lot of crap but I get rid of a lot too. If I kept it
<br\>all, I'd be willing to place a
<br\>wager on who deserves that title. :)
<br\>
<br\>I just sold a dumpload of bent gear. I now have enough space on my table to
<br\>crack open a tv. :)
<br\>Wobble wobble
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
So I have now built my own keypad controllers and have
<br\>verified they function with the Test Cat. I have
<br\>hooked up Synthcart with these controllers and I get a
<br\>continous tone when the program starts up. When i
<br\>press the keypad in any combination nothing happens.
<br\>Could someone gives this newbie a little push in the
<br\>right direction.
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum
<br\><paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > >More then likely this is the issue, I have
<br\>only been plugging
<br\>> in one
<br\>> > > >joystick at a time. Just to be sure, both
<br\>joysticks are
<br\>> required to
<br\>> > > >get the program started?
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > hehe, you need two, but it doesn't work with
<br\>joysticks.
<br\>you'll
<br\>> need
<br\>> > two
<br\>> > > keyboard controllers.  There are 3 types of
<br\>keyboards: video
<br\>> touch
<br\>> > pads,
<br\>> > > kids controllers, and keyboard controllers.  I
<br\>prefer the video
<br\>> > touch pads,
<br\>> > > but the kids controllers look really cool.
<br\>They can all be
<br\>found
<br\>> > pretty
<br\>> > > easily on ebay, or maybe you could post on the
<br\>Atariage
<br\>> marketplace
<br\>> > forum.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -paul
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
You do have two keypad controllers plugged in, right? Right??
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> So I have now built my own keypad controllers and have
<br\>> verified they function with the Test Cat. I have
<br\>> hooked up Synthcart with these controllers and I get a
<br\>> continous tone when the program starts up. When i
<br\>> press the keypad in any combination nothing happens.
<br\>> Could someone gives this newbie a little push in the
<br\>> right direction.
<br\>>
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum
<br\>> <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > >More then likely this is the issue, I have
<br\>> only been plugging
<br\>> > in one
<br\>> > > > >joystick at a time. Just to be sure, both
<br\>> joysticks are
<br\>> > required to
<br\>> > > > >get the program started?
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > hehe, you need two, but it doesn't work with
<br\>> joysticks.
<br\>> you'll
<br\>> > need
<br\>> > > two
<br\>> > > > keyboard controllers.  There are 3 types of
<br\>> keyboards: video
<br\>> > touch
<br\>> > > pads,
<br\>> > > > kids controllers, and keyboard controllers.  I
<br\>> prefer the video
<br\>> > > touch pads,
<br\>> > > > but the kids controllers look really cool.
<br\>> They can all be
<br\>> found
<br\>> > > pretty
<br\>> > > > easily on ebay, or maybe you could post on the
<br\>> Atariage
<br\>> > marketplace
<br\>> > > forum.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > -paul
<br\>>
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Yes I do, and I have tested them with the Testcart.
<br\>
<br\>--- Jeremy <cutthroatfreakshow@yahoo.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> You do have two keypad controllers plugged in,
<br\>> right? Right??
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith
<br\>> <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> > So I have now built my own keypad controllers and
<br\>> have
<br\>> > verified they function with the Test Cat. I have
<br\>> > hooked up Synthcart with these controllers and I
<br\>> get a
<br\>> > continous tone when the program starts up. When i
<br\>> > press the keypad in any combination nothing
<br\>> happens.
<br\>> > Could someone gives this newbie a little push in
<br\>> the
<br\>> > right direction.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Jesse
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum
<br\>> > <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > >More then likely this is the issue, I have
<br\>> > only been plugging
<br\>> > > in one
<br\>> > > > > >joystick at a time. Just to be sure, both
<br\>> > joysticks are
<br\>> > > required to
<br\>> > > > > >get the program started?
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > hehe, you need two, but it doesn't work with
<br\>> > joysticks.
<br\>> > you'll
<br\>> > > need
<br\>> > > > two
<br\>> > > > > keyboard controllers.  There are 3 types of
<br\>> > keyboards: video
<br\>> > > touch
<br\>> > > > pads,
<br\>> > > > > kids controllers, and keyboard controllers.
<br\>> I
<br\>> > prefer the video
<br\>> > > > touch pads,
<br\>> > > > > but the kids controllers look really cool.
<br\>> > They can all be
<br\>> > found
<br\>> > > > pretty
<br\>> > > > > easily on ebay, or maybe you could post on
<br\>> the
<br\>> > Atariage
<br\>> > > marketplace
<br\>> > > > forum.
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > > -paul
<br\>> >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Are you sure the value of the resistors is correct?  And you might try
<br\>raising or lowering the resistance value a bit (I think lowering would be
<br\>more likely to help).  There are some timing requirements for reading the
<br\>keyboards.  The timing is probably different with the Synthcart and
<br\>Testcart, and if the resistance of your homemade keyboards is a little off,
<br\>it could cause issues there.
<br\>
<br\>-paul
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
..er is this a dumb question, or do you need special controllers?
<br\>i know those keypad(the little ones) hurt the fingers, but the next
<br\>size up, the video touchpad(i think) are perfect in almost every
<br\>way...not too big like the kids pad but as soft pressure wise?
<br\>
<br\>i think i remember you tried the small tough ones..?
<br\>
<br\>jksine
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Yes I do, and I have tested them with the Testcart.
<br\>>
<br\>> --- Jeremy <cutthroatfreakshow@y...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > You do have two keypad controllers plugged in,
<br\>> > right? Right??
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith
<br\>> > <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> > > So I have now built my own keypad controllers and
<br\>> > have
<br\>> > > verified they function with the Test Cat. I have
<br\>> > > hooked up Synthcart with these controllers and I
<br\>> > get a
<br\>> > > continous tone when the program starts up. When i
<br\>> > > press the keypad in any combination nothing
<br\>> > happens.
<br\>> > > Could someone gives this newbie a little push in
<br\>> > the
<br\>> > > right direction.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Jesse
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul Slocum
<br\>> > > <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> > > > > >
<br\>> > > > > > >More then likely this is the issue, I have
<br\>> > > only been plugging
<br\>> > > > in one
<br\>> > > > > > >joystick at a time. Just to be sure, both
<br\>> > > joysticks are
<br\>> > > > required to
<br\>> > > > > > >get the program started?
<br\>> > > > > >
<br\>> > > > > > hehe, you need two, but it doesn't work with
<br\>> > > joysticks.
<br\>> > > you'll
<br\>> > > > need
<br\>> > > > > two
<br\>> > > > > > keyboard controllers.  There are 3 types of
<br\>> > > keyboards: video
<br\>> > > > touch
<br\>> > > > > pads,
<br\>> > > > > > kids controllers, and keyboard controllers.
<br\>> > I
<br\>> > > prefer the video
<br\>> > > > > touch pads,
<br\>> > > > > > but the kids controllers look really cool.
<br\>> > > They can all be
<br\>> > > found
<br\>> > > > > pretty
<br\>> > > > > > easily on ebay, or maybe you could post on
<br\>> > the
<br\>> > > Atariage
<br\>> > > > marketplace
<br\>> > > > > forum.
<br\>> > > > > >
<br\>> > > > > > -paul
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Just a followup, I went out today and purchased 2 of
<br\>the keypad controllers the kind that connect together
<br\>for $9 each. Unfortanately I work nights and wont be
<br\>able to verify whether the problem is with my Homemade
<br\>controllers or not unitl 1 am PST.
<br\>
<br\>I will follow up more then.
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- J Ksine <jeremy@ksine.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> ..er is this a dumb question, or do you need special
<br\>> controllers?
<br\>> i know those keypad(the little ones) hurt the
<br\>> fingers, but the next
<br\>> size up, the video touchpad(i think) are perfect in
<br\>> almost every
<br\>> way...not too big like the kids pad but as soft
<br\>> pressure wise?
<br\>>
<br\>> i think i remember you tried the small tough ones..?
<br\>>
<br\>> jksine
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith
<br\>> <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> > Yes I do, and I have tested them with the
<br\>> Testcart.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- Jeremy <cutthroatfreakshow@y...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > You do have two keypad controllers plugged in,
<br\>> > > right? Right??
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith
<br\>> > > <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> > > > So I have now built my own keypad controllers
<br\>> and
<br\>> > > have
<br\>> > > > verified they function with the Test Cat. I
<br\>> have
<br\>> > > > hooked up Synthcart with these controllers and
<br\>> I
<br\>> > > get a
<br\>> > > > continous tone when the program starts up.
<br\>> When i
<br\>> > > > press the keypad in any combination nothing
<br\>> > > happens.
<br\>> > > > Could someone gives this newbie a little push
<br\>> in
<br\>> > > the
<br\>> > > > right direction.
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > Jesse
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Paul
<br\>> Slocum
<br\>> > > > <paul@t...> wrote:
<br\>> > > > > > >
<br\>> > > > > > > >More then likely this is the issue, I
<br\>> have
<br\>> > > > only been plugging
<br\>> > > > > in one
<br\>> > > > > > > >joystick at a time. Just to be sure,
<br\>> both
<br\>> > > > joysticks are
<br\>> > > > > required to
<br\>> > > > > > > >get the program started?
<br\>> > > > > > >
<br\>> > > > > > > hehe, you need two, but it doesn't work
<br\>> with
<br\>> > > > joysticks.
<br\>> > > > you'll
<br\>> > > > > need
<br\>> > > > > > two
<br\>> > > > > > > keyboard controllers.  There are 3 types
<br\>> of
<br\>> > > > keyboards: video
<br\>> > > > > touch
<br\>> > > > > > pads,
<br\>> > > > > > > kids controllers, and keyboard
<br\>> controllers.
<br\>> > > I
<br\>> > > > prefer the video
<br\>> > > > > > touch pads,
<br\>> > > > > > > but the kids controllers look really
<br\>> cool.
<br\>> > > > They can all be
<br\>> > > > found
<br\>> > > > > > pretty
<br\>> > > > > > > easily on ebay, or maybe you could post
<br\>> on
<br\>> > > the
<br\>> > > > Atariage
<br\>> > > > > marketplace
<br\>> > > > > > forum.
<br\>> > > > > > >
<br\>> > > > > > > -paul
<br\>> > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > > > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Subject:
Re: OT-wobblevision (was hotrodding ataris)

Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy" <cutthroatfreakshow@y...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> I just sold a dumpload of bent gear. I now have enough space on my table to
<br\>crack open a tv. :)
<br\>> Wobble wobble
<br\>
<br\>at last there are clear instructions on the web for this project:
<br\>
<br\>http://censtron.com/resources/wave_vessel.php
<br\>
<br\>now you can finally get that "bride of frankenstein" high voltage hair style
<br\>that
<br\>is so popular with the kids today.
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>= www.litmusound.com =
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hey Paul... any more news on releasing the C64 Cynthcart?
<br\>
<br\>Just DO IT!!! :)
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "chvad_sb" <chvad_sb@h...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hey Paul... any more news on releasing the C64 Cynthcart?
<br\>>
<br\>> Just DO IT!!! :)
<br\>
<br\>I just got my mmc64 so ill report how well it works to run it. might
<br\>be over kill, but it has a builtiun viewer and p[layer for side files
<br\>
<br\><homer> mmmm entire hvsc on one mmc memory card</homer>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://ami.ga/indexe.htm
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I know have two keypad controllers hooked up to my
<br\>atari. When I turn it on I get the same continous
<br\>tone, I can change this tone by using the difficulty
<br\>switches and color/BW switch. Besides that I havent
<br\>been able to acomplish anything. I can also toggle
<br\>between 2 other screen in think they were called the
<br\>options and advanced options screens.
<br\>
<br\>When trying to use the keypad controllers I press
<br\>multiple buttons in many different sequences and
<br\>nothing happens. I really dont think this issue is a
<br\>hardware issue. I really think its a chair to atari
<br\>error (user error).
<br\>
<br\>Could someone show me a simple walk through to change
<br\>some of the features. Maybe even a short tutorial.
<br\>
<br\>Thanks,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- Paul Slocum <paul@treewave.com> wrote:
<br\>> Are you sure the value of the resistors is correct?
<br\>> And you might try
<br\>> raising or lowering the resistance value a bit (I
<br\>> think lowering would be
<br\>> more likely to help).  There are some timing
<br\>> requirements for reading the
<br\>> keyboards.  The timing is probably different with
<br\>> the Synthcart and
<br\>> Testcart, and if the resistance of your homemade
<br\>> keyboards is a little off,
<br\>> it could cause issues there.
<br\>>
<br\>> -paul
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello Everyone! are there any Atari 2600 MIDI Interface cartridges
<br\>around, or people using MIDI with the 2600? If so, could somebody
<br\>point me in their direction?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Jesse Smith wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>When trying to use the keypad controllers I press
<br\>>multiple buttons in many different sequences and
<br\>>nothing happens. I really dont think this issue is a
<br\>>hardware issue. I really think its a chair to atari
<br\>>error (user error).
<br\>>
<br\>     I remember having this problem when I was using a keypad controller
<br\>that was shorted.  I opened it up and cleaned out the gunk inside, then
<br\>they worked fine.
<br\>
<br\>     Have you tried swapping the two keypads to see if that changes
<br\>anything?  It shouldn't but you never know...  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>I just got my mmc64 so ill report how well it works to run it. might
<br\>>be over kill, but it has a builtiun viewer and p[layer for side files
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     What is the product called on their website?  I know that I've seen
<br\>one before, but...  If you don't mind my asking, how much did it set you
<br\>back?
<br\>
<br\>     Nice to see a company that is still making a SCMS copybit killer.  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
> >
<br\>>     What is the product called on their website?  I know that I've seen
<br\>> one before, but...  If you don't mind my asking, how much did it set
<br\>you
<br\>> back?
<br\>
<br\>mmc64. The best way to buy it in the US is through this guy:
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>http://stores.ebay.com/Auctions-by-redrumloa-eShop_W0QQssPageNameZl2QQtZkm
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Good news lots of demos seem to work, and the sid player, while
<br\>clunky, works very good so far ( I have the entire hvsc on one card :))
<br\>
<br\>retroskoi works
<br\>
<br\>cynthcart doesnt :/
<br\>
<br\>Anyone know how to extract files frm a d64 archive?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>>
<br\>>     Nice to see a company that is still making a SCMS copybit
<br\>killer.  :)
<br\>
<br\>that whole webpage is kinda fun isnt it?
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Hello,
<br\>You can save yourself about $75 bucks if you build this:
<br\>
<br\>and understand german..
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>> >     Nice to see a company that is still making a SCMS copybit
<br\>> killer.  :)
<br\>>
<br\>> that whole webpage is kinda fun isnt it?
<br\>>
<br\>> peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
>     Have you tried swapping the two keypads to see
<br\>> if that changes
<br\>> anything?  It shouldn't but you never know...  :)
<br\>>
<br\>
<br\>I have tried swapping the controllersno change in
<br\>operation. They are very clean, no gunk or junk
<br\>inside. I did just for the heck of it test these two
<br\>keypad controllers with Test Cart, I realize there is
<br\>a timing issue, but these controllers are the keypad
<br\>controllers that connect together from the sides.
<br\>
<br\>I can swith things from the switches on the face of my
<br\>atari, but I get nohing from the keys on the
<br\>controllers, which Im not even sure if Im pressing the
<br\>right keys.
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel O'Shea" <dan@o...> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> Hello Everyone! are there any Atari 2600 MIDI Interface cartridges
<br\>> around, or people using MIDI with the 2600? If so, could somebody
<br\>> point me in their direction?
<br\>
<br\>...while searching some more on this topic I found this:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.doepfer.de/mtc.htm
<br\>
<br\>which looks like it could be ideal for MIDI controlling an Atari
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
i dont know jack, but maybe you could rebuild the keypad controlers with
<br\>gate inputs instead of buttons and then use that controler on them, just a
<br\>thought.
<br\>
<br\>>From: "Daniel O'Shea" <dan@ozramp.net.au>
<br\>>Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>>Subject: [synthcart] Re: MIDI?
<br\>>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:38:59 -0000
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel O'Shea" <dan@o...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Hello Everyone! are there any Atari 2600 MIDI Interface cartridges
<br\>> > around, or people using MIDI with the 2600? If so, could somebody
<br\>> > point me in their direction?
<br\>>
<br\>>...while searching some more on this topic I found this:
<br\>>
<br\>>http://www.doepfer.de/mtc.htm
<br\>>
<br\>>which looks like it could be ideal for MIDI controlling an Atari
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
You could easily modify a prohect (relatively) at
<br\>
<br\>midibox.org
<br\>
<br\>to control ALL of the atari switches via midi with enough savvy.
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Benjamin Grimes" <zigstardust@h...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> i dont know jack, but maybe you could rebuild the keypad controlers
<br\>with
<br\>> gate inputs instead of buttons and then use that controler on them,
<br\>just a
<br\>> thought.
<br\>>
<br\>> >From: "Daniel O'Shea" <dan@o...>
<br\>> >Reply-To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >To: synthcart@yahoogroups.com
<br\>> >Subject: [synthcart] Re: MIDI?
<br\>> >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:38:59 -0000
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel O'Shea" <dan@o...> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > Hello Everyone! are there any Atari 2600 MIDI Interface cartridges
<br\>> > > around, or people using MIDI with the 2600? If so, could somebody
<br\>> > > point me in their direction?
<br\>> >
<br\>> >...while searching some more on this topic I found this:
<br\>> >
<br\>> >http://www.doepfer.de/mtc.htm
<br\>> >
<br\>> >which looks like it could be ideal for MIDI controlling an Atari
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
This would only give you eight on/off switches controlled by MIDI,
<br\>but thought you might want to see:
<br\>
<br\>http://www.highlyliquid.com/kits/msa/index.html
<br\>
<br\>     They've also got a MIDI retrofit kit for the SK-1, but you have to
<br\>take out the speaker to make room for the circuitboard.  The MIDI kit
<br\>from the 80's fit inside the SK-1 better so you could keep the original
<br\>speaker, but you could no longer use the keyboard with batteries.
<br\>Weird, eh?  I guess that there's always a trade-off.  :)
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


Subject:
Re: Re: OT-wobblevision (was hotrodding ataris)

Message:
<br\>
Do you post on the circuit_bending livejournal group? I saw this on
<br\>there, and I've been thinking about doing it.
<br\>
<br\>Gus
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:26:00 -0000, kingconga42 <kingconga8@aol.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy" <cutthroatfreakshow@y...>
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>> > I just sold a dumpload of bent gear. I now have enough space on my table
<br\>> to
<br\>> crack open a tv. :)
<br\>> > Wobble wobble
<br\>>
<br\>> at last there are clear instructions on the web for this project:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://censtron.com/resources/wave_vessel.php
<br\>>
<br\>> now you can finally get that "bride of frankenstein" high voltage hair style
<br\>> that
<br\>> is so popular with the kids today.
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> = www.litmusound.com =
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
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Message:
<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>     This would only give you eight on/off switches controlled by MIDI,
<br\>> but thought you might want to see:
<br\>>
<br\>> http://www.highlyliquid.com/kits/msa/index.html
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Acutally you can multiplex for as many switches as you need ot control
<br\>
<br\>but that link is pretty cool!
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Bohus Blahut <bohus@x> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>>    This would only give you eight on/off switches controlled by MIDI,
<br\>>>but thought you might want to see:
<br\>>>
<br\>>>http://www.highlyliquid.com/kits/msa/index.html
<br\>>>
<br\>>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>Acutally you can multiplex for as many switches as you need ot control
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     I guess if you're really smart, you can.  :)  I know what
<br\>multiplexing is, but not how to do it.  Do you just add a few parts onto
<br\>this kit to make that a reality?
<br\>
<br\>>but that link is pretty cool!
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     Yeah, I kind of like his Casio SK-1 keytars.  They look like they're
<br\>made out of angle irons and door frames!
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


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<br\>
No, i haven't signed up there yet, but that is where i found the link.
<br\>Ya, i've been wanting to make a wobblevision too. My first attempt failed. My
<br\>bandmate had limited success.  Maybe we should try again with these new
<br\>instructions. The results these guys got look different than other wobblevision
<br\>pages i've seen.
<br\>http://www.ftrain.com/seeing_sound.html
<br\>I like the fact that they can switch between different modes.
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>= www.litmusound.com =
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Agustin Mojica <shinokou@g...> wrote:
<br\>> Do you post on the circuit_bending livejournal group? I saw this on
<br\>> there, and I've been thinking about doing it.
<br\>>
<br\>> Gus
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:26:00 -0000, kingconga42 <kingconga8@a...>
<br\>wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy" <cutthroatfreakshow@y...>
<br\>> > wrote:
<br\>> > > I just sold a dumpload of bent gear. I now have enough space on my
<br\>table
<br\>> > to
<br\>> > crack open a tv. :)
<br\>> > > Wobble wobble
<br\>> >
<br\>> > at last there are clear instructions on the web for this project:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > http://censtron.com/resources/wave_vessel.php
<br\>> >
<br\>> > now you can finally get that "bride of frankenstein" high voltage hair style
<br\>> > that
<br\>> > is so popular with the kids today.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> > = www.litmusound.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
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<br\>
> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >Acutally you can multiplex for as many switches as you need ot control
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>>     I guess if you're really smart, you can.  :)  I know what
<br\>> multiplexing is, but not how to do it.  Do you just add a few parts
<br\>onto
<br\>> this kit to make that a reality?
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>Nah the whole thing is modular, so of you need more outputs, simple
<br\>attach a jumper to an extra board, and set it up in software... really
<br\>a piece of cake, and the directiopns are very specif and less techy
<br\>than they could be...
<br\>
<br\>peter
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
I do post there.
<br\>I also just wobbled a tv. It works great. I have two rca inputs. Input #1
<br\>controls the horizontal,
<br\>Input #2 controls the vertical. There is also a swith that changes between
<br\>combinations of H and
<br\>V.
<br\>
<br\>Right now I just have one stereo track running into it, but you cound run one
<br\>song or instrument
<br\>into the H and another into the V.
<br\>
<br\>Fun fun fun. Don't die.
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Agustin Mojica <shinokou@g...> wrote:
<br\>> Do you post on the circuit_bending livejournal group? I saw this on
<br\>> there, and I've been thinking about doing it.
<br\>>
<br\>> Gus
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:26:00 -0000, kingconga42 <kingconga8@a...> wrote:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy" <cutthroatfreakshow@y...>
<br\>> > wrote:
<br\>> > > I just sold a dumpload of bent gear. I now have enough space on my table
<br\>> > to
<br\>> > crack open a tv. :)
<br\>> > > Wobble wobble
<br\>> >
<br\>> > at last there are clear instructions on the web for this project:
<br\>> >
<br\>> > http://censtron.com/resources/wave_vessel.php
<br\>> >
<br\>> > now you can finally get that "bride of frankenstein" high voltage hair style
<br\>> > that
<br\>> > is so popular with the kids today.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > -justin
<br\>> > = www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> > = www.litmusound.com =
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
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<br\>
Just a little bit on my wobblevission, I had to add an
<br\>inline amp to boost the signal. I took the amp from a
<br\>pair of computer speakers hard wired the power to the
<br\>TV power and audio out to the CRT. Then wired up a a
<br\>pair of RCA jacks to the out side of the TV for the
<br\>inputs. I then set the audio level for a reaonable
<br\>read out on the TV screen.
<br\>
<br\>Goodluck with your projects,
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- kingconga42 <kingconga8@aol.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> No, i haven't signed up there yet, but that is where
<br\>> i found the link.
<br\>> Ya, i've been wanting to make a wobblevision too. My
<br\>> first attempt failed. My
<br\>> bandmate had limited success.  Maybe we should try
<br\>> again with these new
<br\>> instructions. The results these guys got look
<br\>> different than other wobblevision
<br\>> pages i've seen.
<br\>> http://www.ftrain.com/seeing_sound.html
<br\>> I like the fact that they can switch between
<br\>> different modes.
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> = www.litmusound.com =
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Agustin Mojica
<br\>> <shinokou@g...> wrote:
<br\>> > Do you post on the circuit_bending livejournal
<br\>> group? I saw this on
<br\>> > there, and I've been thinking about doing it.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Gus
<br\>> >
<br\>> >
<br\>> > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:26:00 -0000, kingconga42
<br\>> <kingconga8@a...>
<br\>> wrote:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy"
<br\>> <cutthroatfreakshow@y...>
<br\>> > > wrote:
<br\>> > > > I just sold a dumpload of bent gear. I now
<br\>> have enough space on my
<br\>> table
<br\>> > > to
<br\>> > > crack open a tv. :)
<br\>> > > > Wobble wobble
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > at last there are clear instructions on the web
<br\>> for this project:
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > http://censtron.com/resources/wave_vessel.php
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > now you can finally get that "bride of
<br\>> frankenstein" high voltage hair style
<br\>> > > that
<br\>> > > is so popular with the kids today.
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > > -justin
<br\>> > > = www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> > > = www.litmusound.com =
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
<br\>> > >
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<br\>> Yahoo! Terms of Service.
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


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<br\>
--- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> Just a little bit on my wobblevission, I had to add an
<br\>> inline amp to boost the signal. I took the amp from a
<br\>> pair of computer speakers hard wired the power to the
<br\>> TV power and audio out to the CRT. Then wired up a a
<br\>> pair of RCA jacks to the out side of the TV for the
<br\>> inputs. I then set the audio level for a reaonable
<br\>> read out on the TV screen.
<br\>>
<br\>> Goodluck with your projects,
<br\>> Jesse
<br\>
<br\>Ah. i was going to ask that next.
<br\>I don't think anyone else has mentioned that. what happens when you crank
<br\>the gain on the amp? do you get squared-off looking waves?
<br\>
<br\>-justin
<br\>= www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>= www.litmusound.com =
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
--- kingconga42 <kingconga8@aol.com> wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> --- In synthcart@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Smith
<br\>> <stoi2m1@y...> wrote:
<br\>> > Just a little bit on my wobblevission, I had to
<br\>> add an
<br\>> > inline amp to boost the signal. I took the amp
<br\>> from a
<br\>> > pair of computer speakers hard wired the power to
<br\>> the
<br\>> > TV power and audio out to the CRT. Then wired up a
<br\>> a
<br\>> > pair of RCA jacks to the out side of the TV for
<br\>> the
<br\>> > inputs. I then set the audio level for a reaonable
<br\>> > read out on the TV screen.
<br\>> >
<br\>> > Goodluck with your projects,
<br\>> > Jesse
<br\>>
<br\>> Ah. i was going to ask that next.
<br\>> I don't think anyone else has mentioned that. what
<br\>> happens when you crank
<br\>> the gain on the amp? do you get squared-off looking
<br\>> waves?
<br\>>
<br\>> -justin
<br\>> = www.burnkit2600.com =
<br\>> = www.litmusound.com =
<br\>
<br\>I think you are heading in the right direction with
<br\>that. Although when I had done this to mine as I
<br\>raised the gain on the amp, the visual display would
<br\>begin to leave the TV screen. So Im thinking if you
<br\>raise the gain to the point of clipping IE squareing
<br\>off, you will then need to attenuate the level so that
<br\>it will display on the screen. Let me know if you get
<br\>any results I would like to see that on mine.
<br\>
<br\>I was also thinking of adding pots to the outside of
<br\>the TV case so that I could change the colors, in some
<br\>TVs I think the color is voltage controlled, Im not
<br\>sure. However with mine it has the default Blue screen
<br\>to block out the noist that would normally appear.
<br\>With the adjustment pots I can change that color.
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>


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<br\>
So after many attempts with synthcart, Im still not
<br\>haveing much luck getting results from anything other
<br\>then the knobs on my Atari. The keypads dont seem to
<br\>have any affect with synthcart what so ever.
<br\>
<br\>Im kinda feeling like I dont know how to use synthcart
<br\>(It makes me feel likes it me that has the problem and
<br\>not the machine, and I know Im no idiot).
<br\>
<br\>I can get the mainscreen and toggle between the 2
<br\>option screens and when I press any button on iether
<br\>key pad nothing happens on any of the different
<br\>screens. Im thinking I should see something change.
<br\>
<br\>I made the Cart myself I used a 27256 eprom with the
<br\>highest 3 address pins pulled to ground. I have done
<br\>this with other Carts and have had success with the
<br\>proper operation of the Cart. Is it possible that this
<br\>is causeing the problem?
<br\>
<br\>Jesse
<br\>
<br\>--- Bohus Blahut <bohus@xnet.com> wrote:
<br\>> Jesse Smith wrote:
<br\>>
<br\>> >When trying to use the keypad controllers I press
<br\>> >multiple buttons in many different sequences and
<br\>> >nothing happens. I really dont think this issue is
<br\>> a
<br\>> >hardware issue. I really think its a chair to atari
<br\>> >error (user error).
<br\>> >
<br\>>     I remember having this problem when I was using
<br\>> a keypad controller
<br\>> that was shorted.  I opened it up and cleaned out
<br\>> the gunk inside, then
<br\>> they worked fine.
<br\>>
<br\>>     Have you tried swapping the two keypads to see
<br\>> if that changes
<br\>> anything?  It shouldn't but you never know...  :)
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>> --
<br\>>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>>
<br\>>    modern filmmaker
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>


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<br\>
This post is inspired by one in another group.
<br\>
<br\>I have an Intellivision and the voice module for it. It seems like there are a
<br\>lot of ooptions for the
<br\>2600 and the coleco musically. What's out there for Intellivision? Am I missing
<br\>something?
<br\>


Message:
<br\>
Jeremy wrote:
<br\>
<br\>>I have an Intellivision and the voice module for it. It seems like there are a
<br\>lot of ooptions for the
<br\>>2600 and the coleco musically. What's out there for Intellivision? Am I missing
<br\>something?
<br\>>
<br\>>
<br\>     Intellivision did actually make a full-sized keyboard add-on for
<br\>Intellivision.  It was intended to round out the Intellivision II
<br\>line-up.  Once you put on the computer module, you can add this full
<br\>sized keyboard and use carts specially made for it.
<br\>
<br\>     If I remember my Intellivision history correctly, Mattel only
<br\>grudgingly came out with the computer as they'd advertised INTV as more
<br\>than just a game system, promising computer expansion.  When it came
<br\>time to actually design the computer module, they couldn't figure out a
<br\>way to do it inexpensively, and only a government edict finally forced
<br\>them to actually come out with it.  As a result it's not well supported,
<br\>there are only a handful of carts for it.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/hardware/ecs_tech.html
<br\>
<br\>     I have one of these setups, and the single cart that came out for
<br\>the music keyboard.  The keyboard is pretty nice, and I must admit I
<br\>really like how all the cases match to look all "slick".  You can play
<br\>the keyboard and it will display what notes you are playing on a regular
<br\>musical staff on the TV, though you can change the "instrument" - it's
<br\>just a simple square wave (though I imagine that you could change the
<br\>nature of the sound by programming something on the computer
<br\>component).  There's also the Melody Blaster game which lets you pick
<br\>from a number of songs and using the keyboard shoot the notes out of the
<br\>sky.  Cute.
<br\>
<br\>http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/games/credits/ecs.shtml#Anchor-Melody-\
<br\>49101
<br\>
<br\>     Musically it sounds as if the Intellivision has some of the same
<br\>tonal qualities as the Atari.  An important difference is that a default
<br\>Intellivision has three voices, and once adding the computer module you
<br\>get an astonishing SIX!  It would be wickedly cool if someone homebrewed
<br\>something for this arrangement, but so few people have it that I don't
<br\>know if it would be worth a developer's time.  Intellivision is also
<br\>somewhat harder to mod for video and audio outputs.
<br\>
<br\>     The only other thing I can think of is to get an Intellicart (same
<br\>as a Cuttlecart, but for INTV), and learn how to program all your stuff
<br\>- the hard way!  That crazy INTV disc controller would seem to be a nice
<br\>way to control pitch bend or glide.  :)
<br\>
<br\>
<br\>--
<br\>      Bohus Blahut
<br\>  (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot)
<br\>
<br\>    modern filmmaker
<br\>


